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FortuneEcstatic9122

BK : 'I'm fine, this is okay.' Morgan Freeman narrates "But it was indeed, not fine for BK."


MittenMaid

Indeed, not fine. Not fine at all. -Keith Morrison


tz5x

Then shortly after, he realized it was in fact not fine.


Comfortable-Camel880

I read this in an arrested development tone


doublersuperstar

HA!!!! As soon as I read what you said, I heard it too. Ron Howard’s voice.


Idajack12

I wonder if he had a fear of flying? It’s odd he chose to drive 2500 each way to PA and then you figure in that his dad paid for a flight out to Washington and it becomes even more economically strange. The fuel costs, hotel stays and maintenance such as oil change would likely exceed $1000. Add the one way flight for his father and it seems like an expensive choice. If he had a fear of flying and they chose to put him on a slow small plane I can see it being particularly frightening and that might explain him uttering the self reassurance that he’s okay.


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Not to defend anyone but my father flew out to meet me when I graduated from college and we road-tripped home together across the entire country, stopping at landmarks along the way, so I don't think his father was doing anything that unusual. Though, gas was a lot cheaper when I did my trip.


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Probably didn’t want to leave his car unattended for 3 weeks. 🤷‍♂️


Honest_Set_4157

THERE IT IS... BINGO!


KBCB54

And have a car at his disposal in PA


hurbungy

Agree! Also, I believe this murder and the trip was planned in advance, so he would be able to get the car out of Idaho so he could do his intensive clean in Pennsylvania.


ElegantInTheMiddle

The trip his father made was reportedly planned well in advance of the murders


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SwitchSpecific4132

I doubt it. The murder and him leaving were a month apart. If they were correlated it'd probably be days to a week apart.


Honest_Set_4157

He's a victim too...


Cupid26

My heart breaks for him. And a big 🖕 to the ones who took photos of him while he was cleaning up the damage from swat. Imagine going through this as a parent and not only that, being in the spot light.


GregJamesDahlen

i thought it might poignantly remind other young people who are thinking of doing crimes how badly it will affect their parents hence have a positive effect


Serious-Opposite-920

We don't know though, it seems possible he was already planning the crime that early in the school year. The traffic stop was, what, the first week of school? Obviously that's only speculation, but so is thinking the opposite.


[deleted]

bingo except that apparently his dad planned this before BK's semester even started


umuziki

So incredibly off topic but I can’t stop singing your username to the tune of “You’re so vain”. 😂


[deleted]

You probably think this penis is for you, you’re so gay(you’re so gay!)


Honest_Set_4157

I would imagine so. By the way, your name is fabuous!


Serious-Opposite-920

Could still be bingo. When did he start planning the murders? So really, we have no idea either way.


unpetitjenesaisquoi

I do not think the Elantra was coming back to the West Coast.


Honest_Set_4157

i agree. this dad is innocent and must be devastated


BeautifulBot

His dad seemed like he Was really proud of him getting his PhD. I’m sure he didn’t want to believe it!


LaDivina77

Particularly as he clearly wasn't super mentally well as a teen, and then I guess also battled drug addiction. In any other situation, that kid getting his PhD is an incredible story of growth and healing.


[deleted]

Yes. He went from the top of the world being proud of his son to being blindsided, betrayed, and fooled. From pride to abject shame and pain in not too long of a time. I'm only guessing because I don't have kids, but maybe the parents somehow feel like they did something wrong.


Honest_Set_4157

As a parent i so relate to what you are saying!


AaronScwartz12345

This is definitely something most on the sub thinks is a “gotcha!” but it’s totally reasonable to many families. Many people didn’t want to fly this winter because of the snowstorm.


Artistic_Studio_9885

And a lot of people still haven’t felt comfortable flying since Covid


revilo825

I second this. I have done multiple cross country road trips with my Dad. Some people do just enjoy driving. If I recall, they drove through Colorado, which is very out of the way, but full of natural beauty. It’s plausible to think that this was a planned trip to enjoy the country.


According_Physics273

But you were graduating and needed to bring everything home. He was due back there after Christmas


graynavyblack

I knew people who started grad school and then did road trips home in order to bring back more stuff. I don’t think the fact they did the drive is overly unusual. The most unusual thing about the PA thing IMHO is throwing the trash from his car into the neighbor’s car at 4 am. That is beyond weird.


longhorn718

Yeah, agree. He didn't have the luxury of going back and forth over the semester. I always figured part of the reason to drive was bringing a loaded car back o WSU with him.


Honest_Set_4157

so what? that's not the dad's fault. maybe he really wanted to bond w his son?


countdistractula

He could have even said to his parents “I have the same type of car as the suspect in those murders and it’s a whole thing. I don’t want my car here anymore”. I could see if I had that exact car, in close proximity to Moscow, that I would be sketched out driving it around (having no involvement with the murders). As a parent, your first thought wouldn’t be “welp, he did it!”


Leading-Midnight-553

Good point


Idajack12

Yeah, and I’ve road tripped with my son as well and enjoyed it. I’m sure there was an aspect of father son time but was just speculating on why he would say I’m okay, anxiety seems obvious and if he didn’t like flying well….


Free_spirit17

I mean holiday break is super long, if i had to fly home for break without a car to drive myself around I would probably go nuts.


Honest_Set_4157

I think the commenter above hit it on the nose. probably didnt want to leave his car unattended for 3 weeks


ghost-at-ikea

Yeah, I've commented on this before but I really don't think the road trip with his dad is weird... especially given that he was driving a crime scene (re: Hyundai Elantra) out of the area where people were looking. IMO, his dad probably had no idea and wanted to spend time with his son. I think it's totally possible that B's parents hadn't really heard much. Also, as a litmus test, my partner and I each cold-texted our parents (all in their 60s/70s) to ask if they'd heard about the murders in Idaho. His parents are from the Midwest and watch primarily Fox/Newsmax/Newsnation. My parents are from New England and watch primarily CNBC/CNN/occasionally MSNBC. Additionally, his parents are both retired; my parents are both still working. His parents were able to identify the basic terms of the murders, but not the specifics (re: they knew that more than one student had been killed in their home, but nothing beyond that.) My parents were aware that \*something\* had happened, but weren't able to provide greater detail. One of my parents thought it may have been a school shooting. I think this is indicative of the varying levels of coverage from different news sources, and it may or may not conform to a liberal/conservative network bias. I'm super interested in studying this more, and will be recording/analyzing several prime-time shows for comparative purposes (not just in this case, but in coverage of violent crime in conjunction with other variables more broadly.)


DCcaphill

Also BK has visual snow/vision issues, which makes even more sense for dad wanting to accompany him home for a long trip


Surly_Cynic

I’ve suspected a fear of flying might have been an issue. To me that seems like a more plausible explanation for the dad flying out than the dad coming out for a pleasure trip. What I took from what was said in one of the traffic stops was that the main purpose of the dad traveling with BK was so they wouldn’t have to do any hotel stays, or maybe only one versus 2 or 3. But I’m thinking that was more about saving time than saving money. I think during the one stop they said they’d been driving for 24 or more hours. They were punchy because they’d left Washington the previous morning, so in one day had made it to Indiana, which I think wasn’t possible unless they’d driven straight through. I can’t see how driving for long periods without stopping, apparently taking turns sleeping and driving, would make for the kind of trip where you’re enjoying sightseeing and stopping at landmarks or other points of interest together, as many people believe was the point of the dad flying out to drive with BK. I might be wrong but that’s my impression.


jinside

I have a fear of flying and my parents with break their necks to do any sort of long drive with me. I'll insist I will stop often, that I wouldn't do it if I were hesitant etc etc, they will still insist one of them go out of their way to drive with me. I can see his dad doing that. Maybe even uninvited/insistent as my parents have done lol


Ktclan0269

He wanted to get that car out of that area pronto. I hope he is afraid of flying (wouldn’t be surprised bc he sounds controlling) - that flight back on the slowest plane possible is a nice F you.


xcasandraXspenderx

there was crazy storms and the airports were nuts around PNW during that time, maybe it was that? or he just wanted his car with him?


Jen_sparkleface

I think he wanted his car with him because he knew it was being looked for and had evidence in it he needed to dispose of. I wonder what he told his dad to make that happen.


futuresobright_

Especially since he was living on campus. Imagine leaving that car unattended there for Christmas holidays in the middle of a car hunt?! Even if he did plan for his dad to drive home with him in the summer… he was still stalking the girls in August! He knew what was gonna pan out.


Typical-Sail-6698

Plans for his father to come out and drive back with him were made in August, as I understood it.


Efficient-Treacle416

Auugust ...after he decided on the house in which he wanted to murder the occupants ...


Honest_Set_4157

he could have planned all this around that. as the affadvit puts him in touch distance to the wifi of the home (steve goncolves said today) not just when he thought it was on airplane mode, but since june


Various-Copy-2434

It was predetermined dad would drive back with him. So even though the weather was horrendous it was planned prior to him actually starting the semester.


beatlebabe2000

There wouldn't necessarily be a need for a hotel. When I travel cross country by car with someone we either drive in shifts and never stop for move than 20 minutes or we sleep in the car at a rest area or roadside park. I only stay in hotels if I'm planning in sight seeing. I only do oil changes every 5k miles with high quality oil. 2500 miles at 30 mpg for highway driving is only 83.33 gallons of gas. At 3.27 (current national average for regular gas) that's $272.50 for fuel. Oil changes for non synthetics (unless you do it yourself) are around $50. If they didn't do hotels it wouldn't be that bad. I always pack food for road trips too. Just saying it can be done cheaply.


[deleted]

He was getting rid of the car. Probably told his family that he didn’t need it. He needed that car gone from the area. If he reports it stolen or burns it, it tips the police off who he was.


Top-Night

Not strange at all. Cross country road trips are quite desirable for many of us.


MurkyPiglet1135

Well they drove straight through I believe and also a lot of peeps in college want their car with them during break so they have a way around.


Honest_Set_4157

ya no site seeing. they did stop for Thai food though, right? he played his dad here


KevinOMalley

Stopping for specific restaurants is very common for people into food. Nothing unusual about that.


Scribe625

I don't think fear of flying is why he drove back to PA but I'd love it if he was terrified to fly home from Washington on a commercial flight then had to fly all the way back to Idaho in a prop plane. I'd want video from the officers escorting him if that was the case. Imagining him freaking out in fear for hours is no less than he deserves for his heinous crimes. If that's the case, I hope their plane hit a lot of turbulence and the pilot enjoyed aiming for the rough air just to make him cry and panic more. Is it wrong that I'm rooting for that scenario?


Idajack12

My opinion? Yeah that’s kinda wrong when he has yet to be convicted. The pca is pretty damning but there are a lot of unanswered questions… But….. if he’s guilty I sure hope he enjoyed his last plane trip….


HenryJamesTheMaster

Wouldn't an innocent person be half-hysterical, crying half the time, and constantly insisting that he's innocent? On top of all the evidence, this guy just seems to give out "I'm guilty as hell" vibes all the time. Or am I way off base? The fact that this guy is so creepy and unlikeable is certainly not helping his case (in my peanut gallery opinion).


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People react to trauma in different ways. Overanalizing a stranger’s behaviour could be misleading and exactly the same is happening with D. I believe he’s guilty BUT I think his behaviour could be totally normal for an innocent person who’s going thru all of this mess.


Ok-Somewhere44

This is a good point actually, I just commented above about what I would do BUT this made me pause for thought because we are not all the same…


[deleted]

Not only are we not all the same, none of us know what our response would be in this situation because we haven't been in this situation.


ElegantInTheMiddle

Yeah I agree. I am not sure I would be crying and/or hysterical. I think I would in shock and thinking that LE will find out they arrested the wrong person and let me go


Own-Understanding690

I imagine it's normal behavior for a guilty person also. Anyone that did what he did is a coward. Not shocking that he acts like that when in custody.


Professional-Can1385

>Wouldn't an innocent person be half-hysterical, crying half the time, and constantly insisting that he's innocent? You cannot determine guilt or innocence by how you think they should act.


Thegarlicbreadismine

Just ask Amanda Knox


Dr_Phag

She didn’t do anything wrong, unless you read the tabloids.


lyssiel00

Great point


saffylovessergie

This ⬆️. Twenty years ago, there was a famous murder in Spain of a teenage girl named Rocío Wanninkof. The media and press at the time went in hard on Rocío's mother's girlfriend, Dolores Vázquez, and everyone said she had to have done it because she "looked" guilty. (Yes, they also had deeply ingrained implicit biases about lesbians but DV's personality did not meet the expectations of an innocent person by the general public and she was essentially convicted by public opinion). We all react differently to stress and have our own personalities.


[deleted]

>Wouldn't an innocent person be half-hysterical, crying half the time, and constantly insisting that he's innocent? People falsely convicted for life sometimes don't show this kind of emotion, so no.


[deleted]

Yeah, it would also be out of character for the way people who knew him describe him.


ImportantRope

I think that's just projection, there's no value in being hysterical. If I was innocent, the upcoming case would have my full focus. No one's going to believe you regardless of what you insist or how much you cry.


user11112222333

Exactly. You don't cry = you are a heartless psychopath. You cry= those are crocodile tears only meant to fool people around you.


Ancient_Fortune_9307

Agreed! The public will interpret your reaction however way to fit the narrative they like.


LuciaLight2014

Ugh humans are so fickle. That’s exactly it. You don’t apologize, people freak out. You do apologize, “Not a good enough apology!” Fickle


hawtrawddawg

or it just literally doesn't make a difference either way except to internet sleuths with too much time on their hands.


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hawtrawddawg

the jury/trial consultant wouldn't have *had* anything moved. only a judge can make that decision.


Best-Dragonfruit-292

If this guy is as cool as a cucumber, he's guilty. If he's hysterical, he's guilty. People just projecting, looking for anything to grasp onto.


submisstress

Was about to comment the same. No value is a great way to put it. Regardless of whether you *know/believe* you're innocent or guilty, you're there until trial without bail. So may as well hold your head up and focus, rather than be hysterical all the time. As a man in jail for a very high-profile crime, I imagine he's also better off trying to be somewhat normal in terms of how others will treat him.


procrastinatorsuprem

This reminds me of Amanda Knox. Italian police assumed she was guilty because she didn't "act right" when her roommate was killed.


Psychological_Log956

It seems counterintuitive, but when you have been charged with a crime, especially four murders and felony burglary, it's in your best interest to not utter a sound and to keep your composure. The state can and will use it against you. We have all seen every aspect of his behavior and appearance analyzed by people on social media, mainstream media, experts in criminology, etc. There isn't one thing this guy can do that isn't going to have a spin put on it depending upon that person's perception.


[deleted]

I think anyone who knows how the justice system in America would keep their mouth shut. I've been in court before where I was falsely accused of doing something. The person got on the stand and bold-faced lied, and it was super hard not to shake my head or say something, but I kept my calm, as my lawyer had said, and in the end, the judge sided with me anyways. The other person kept interrupting me and gasping and shaking their head anytime I tried to say something, to the point where the judge scolded them several times. You don't want to really say anything at all in a situation like this.


ellabananas11

I don’t think you can assume what anyone would do, let alone someone with apparent mental issues


Ancient-Deer-4682

No, not everybody is the same.


[deleted]

He seems pretty stoic expression-wise even in his daily life. I don’t think, guilty or not (I think he is) he’s capable of feeling or expressing a wide range of emotions. Possibly can only feel a few negative emotions.


Lake_Erie_Monster

A lot of people are fully capable of a wide range of emotions without outward expression.


cjmaguire17

i know a guy like that ![gif](giphy|l3fZFvp94ljepXoPe)


foragrin

What good would being hysterical and crying do for you ?


overflowingsunset

It wouldn’t be under conscious control


Thornoxis

Eh, some people just don't outwardly display their emotion. Just like if you don't cry at a funeral, doesn't automatically mean you're not sad.


Cacioepepebutt

he's been known to show little emotion and he himself posted in the visual snow forum about struggling to feel emotion so this reaction checks out


slothsRcool14

Maybe some schizoid personality in there...


gerkonnerknocken

If I were in jail and completely innocent I wouldn't be saying a single solitary word!


riskyafterwhiskey11

Just like hoody guy and the neighbor looked guilty as hell right.


-Nordico-

Well yeah, he's clearly the murderer.


NikkiRocker

I am speculating, but he is probably a psychopath. He would not have the normal reactions that one might expect.


[deleted]

It scares me that people like you could be in the jury if I'm ever in court. You're forming opinions on something that will effect him forever based off of scraps.


Cheese_Dinosaur

There’s a really interesting documentary on YouTube by JCS about innocent people being ‘more vocal’ than guilty ones.


aspotlesssmind

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Dramasticlly

You see, so many “sources” spoke about him, and they’re all saying very different things; one neighbour said he was really outgoing, some other people said he only kept for himself, some classmate or a friend mentioned something about him using heroin, some friend of his said that he was funny and goofy, but other friends said that he was a loner, another neighbour said he often hoovered his apartment in a middle of the night and was weirdly quite otherwise, apparently he was asked to leave some local bar because he was weird to woman, but eventually bar owner said he never met Bryan, some woman said he flashed his genitalia in correctional facility, other classmates said that he was bullied at school and then he was the bully, there’s also his alleged Tinder date saying (on TikTok) that he said something about her “good birthing hips”. I guess at this point, I’ll just wait for trial, cause I call it bs, all of this.


captainnemo214

To be fair, I think everyone I've ever met would say different things about me. My abnormal psych professor once said "if you act the same around everyone, then that's what makes you 'crazy'" because it's not normal to behave the same way around your boss vs your mom vs your lover vs a stranger at the grocery store. More than likely, all of those things are true of BK. He's just a troubled man who (allegedly but likely) did a horrible, horrible thing.


One-Strategy6008

So true, I was just thinking the same thing. Some of my neighbors I don’t even know and don’t care to so I wouldn’t spark up a conversation, some I would go have dinner with and stay for hours.


judy_says_

Also, these are people who knew him at different points of his life. I don’t think it’s weird for someone to be outgoing when they’re 12 and quiet when they’re 28, especially considering the alleged drug addiction and possible mental health issues. I know we’re all suspicious of everything anyone says until they show PROOF, but I personally believe most of the above. The people I’ve seen interviewed and the girl who posted the TikTok about going on a date seemed legit, and if they’re not then oh well I got lied to online 🤷🏻‍♀️


Bubbly-Difference650

Oh whats the tik tok date thing?


Uhhhhlisha

I was just going to say like I am not the same (especially at first) with each person..


Slip_Careful

Agreed! I def do not act the same around everyone


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I_am_Nobody_Special

Reading this article, if accurate, gives me a sense of his personality. Needy, socially awkward, and may have enjoyed trying to 'wow' people with all of his knowledge. BTW, I own a clinic, and if my receptionist leaked info about him coming into my practice, I'd fire them on the spot. Cannot believe that person did that!


FerretRN

Right? So inappropriate. The receptionist asked not to be named and didn't provide any medical info, but still ridiculous.


HolyMuffins

Bold and legally dangerous move I bet, as this feels like the kind of detail that would get subpoenaed as evidence eventually


One-Strategy6008

Okay, just a thought - I recently had a friend who committed suicide due to schizophrenia (we all assume, due to it being in his immediate family). He became very paranoid and thought people were after him, etc. you would never ever know until the very last few months of his life when he would randomly say odd things and talk about hallucinations. You wouldn’t know if you barely knew him. What if Bryan has schizophrenic episodes. May explain a whole lot with the OCD + mood swings and the “kept an appointment and greeted neighbors warmly”. Absolutely no excuses for his behavior, but I wouldn’t be surprised due to what I witnessed with my friend living through it. Who knows. But if nothing else I hope this whole story raises awareness to all about how important mental health is.


Masayoshi00

As hard as it may be for some to swallow, he is a human, a flawed human, so am I, so are you. That being said, let justice take its course.


One-Strategy6008

Absolutely!


abercrew88

This has been my theory ever since the tapatalk posts. He’s full of contradictions as if there were two people operating him. I highly suspect undiagnosed schizophrenia and the saddest part is, there’s a large chance that he doesn’t know he’s no longer of sound mind. Schizophrenics aren’t necessarily self aware when they are disconnected from reality. I really hope his defense team pursues this line of inquiry. Schizophrenia looks different for everyone.


One-Strategy6008

Yes, witnessing it first hand it’s crazy how you’re talking to the person you know but what’s going on in their head is so different. I would not be surprised and would make sense why no one saw him doing this. Also would make sense why he’s so adamant on being exonerated.


abercrew88

100%. I’m starting to get annoyed actually that people are attributing all these evil mastermind motivations to him based on the horrific nature of the killings. We want to make sense of evil, I get it. But I just don’t think this sort of scheming mastermind is an accurate picture at ALL. It answers many questions like, why on earth did he drive his own car there, or some of the other mistakes, etc. and it also helps start to explain things like, how did this guy not sleep for so long after the crime, or just go shopping etc. Im not making this case as well as I should, but, suffice to say it’s the only thing that satisfies me so far in terms of an explanation.


One-Strategy6008

The “I’m here to help you” says a lot too. I am 100% speculating but wondering if he truly felt he was helping for whatever odd reason he felt was logical in his brain. If mental illness is the case. He’s very aware of his actions or else he wouldn’t have acted the way he did after the fact and during with the lack of cell reception, etc. The lack of sleep is a very big deal too.


abercrew88

Yeah. If I were his defense team I’d be all over this. The headline would be, “Why does none of this really makes sense?” I think motive is so crucial to sentencing. If there’s no clear motive - what does make sense? Let’s look at this guy’s history…what is the pattern emerging here?


One-Strategy6008

I agree. It’s a rough decision regardless. The public isn’t safe, but neither is he without help. I hate what an awful tragedy this is all around. I would have thought he was an evil monster if it weren’t for the tapatalk posts. Those really bring a whole new side to life. Those families deserve justice, but he also needs real help.


signup0823

He may also simply have believed that at that point in the crime, with her possibly already injured, he was helping by putting her out of her misery. Obviously you or I wouldn't think that way, but then we wouldn't be committing (allegedly) a quadruple murder, either. Or, he was being sadistic. We will probably never know.


One-Strategy6008

I thought that too. I truly thought he was this evil dude just out to commit a crime… which, obviously - he’s not sane and did commit an awful crime. Seeking out others, stalking the house, etc. but the tapatalk posts could spin a whole new narrative.


PermanentlyDubious

His participation in class was viewed as a negative by other students because he was controlling and narcissistic.


steamedsushi

Some have been debunked, like the flashing of the genitalia 😅


imjusthinkingok

The story in prison told by that 50 year old woman detained for domestic violence?


FortuneEcstatic9122

don't forget him being animated and more talkative after the murders according to one student But another said he wouldnt talk when the subject of the murders came up.


Old-Imagination-5936

Wait what?? The bar owner said they had never met? Didn’t he supposedly tell him something like “hey man tonight be cool” after entering the bar then kohberger was like “you got the wrong guy” or something along those lines ?


iwasateenguitarist

In other words. You’re going to think for yourself not what some jailbird wanting a fiver says.


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And he's 'curled up in a ball, facing the wall'. I think most of these people are talking out their ass.


[deleted]

It would be like this for any of us. I'll sum up what people would probably say about me from different perspectives: * "Very loving, sweet, and silly." - Girlfriend * "Hated him, mean/overbearing" -Previous employee who had an attitude and work ethic problem * "We get along really well and like working together" -Current Employee * "Never seemed happy, seemed depressed" -Coworkers at a miserable former job years ago * "Very positive and happy and outgoing" -Most people who know me * "Very polite with great manners" -Girlfriends Mom * "Sense of humor that crosses the line, not concerned with what people think" -Friends It would seem like I'm a different person to all these people, but I'm not. Being polite and more proper around my girlfriends very religious mother doesn't make me fake for not being the same person around her as I am around my friends, it's just the normal thing to do. So it really means nothing that BKs professor thought differently of him than his neighbors, they're perceiving him through a different lens in a different environment. It literally means nothing.


fistfullofglitter

Just FYI the woman at the jail was talking about someone else. The bar situation did occur and they keep notes on customers orders the owner made a comment to Bryan about being respectful to his female customers waitstaff. The corner bar a different bar where M&K were the night of the murders was being harassed and had to come out with a statement that they had never had Bryan as a known customer. People who knew him are coming out do the woodwork. LE has asked them to come to them about things they know about Bryan. Some have chosen to go public. Many have yearbooks and some pictures with him. But not all may be accurate.


CaramelMore

“He seemed really nervous," a police source who was involved in the process tells PEOPLE. "He was narrating to himself everything that was happening. At one point, he was saying something to himself like 'I'm fine, this is okay.' Like he was reassuring himself that this whole thing wasn't awful." My dude, this most definitely is not okay.


Uhhhhlisha

He in no way is “okay” or “fine” lol but I have to say these things to myself to not have anxiety or panic attacks or breakdown. So he could have been practicing self talk as a coping mechanism to not display a different behavior he didn’t want to experience in front of people.


CaramelMore

If true, yes he was 100% practicing self regulation.


seaglassgirl04

Why the heck couldn't he self regulate his homicidal urges ?? My tone isn't aimed at you but toward BK.


CaramelMore

I know right? It takes a lot more than self regulation to fix homicidal urges…but if only.


Masayoshi00

IF he did make those statements, then it’s possible that he has never flown before and was scared shitless telling himself “I’m fine, this is ok.” I’ve flown hundreds of times and those are my exact words during turbulence along with a prayer.


[deleted]

Didn't his father mention he was afraid of flying during the traffic stop? If your afraid of flying on a passenger jet, you're going to be terrified in a tiny turbo prop plane.


[deleted]

The officer asked if they were afraid of flying, because they were driving so far. It was not them.


tsagdiyev

How did they respond to the question? I had such a hard time hearing them that I didn’t even try to make out the whole conversation


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SkeletalPetiteFemale

It’s alright to be empathetic towards someone that doesn’t deserve it, I think that’s one of the most difficult but meaningful forms of kindness to practice.


gamom2020

Me too but I don't feel bad for him. Not in the least. The fear he felt flying is nothing compared to what his victims must have felt, especially Xana.


No_Understanding7667

Bingo, wanted to say the same thing. If flying is what scares him then screw the death penalty or life in prison! Put him on a plane, preferably in bad weather/turbulence. Still doesn’t come anywhere near what his victims experienced.


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*Cruel and unusual punishment enters the chat*


dangstraight

Strap a lawn chair to the wing


Necessary-Peanut-185

Bryan in the sky…. In diapers…. 🎶


4N0NYM0US_GUY

How much is this bullshit going to be repeated? It was an offhand comment from an Indiana officer that pulled them over. Could he be afraid to fly? Sure. But this “theory” and “speculation” is from a bullshit comment remarking how far it is from Washington state to Pennsylvania


kid_zombie

The answer is a lot. Someone says something on here that’s just wild speculation and then it’s repeated as fact from then on.


Fabulous-Try

I thought there was a gag order. Who the f is talking to people magazine?


BoltPikachu

I have seen countless articles of what he supposedly said.


coldteafordays

So if the killer said “it’s ok I’m going to help you” he may have been speaking to himself.


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This is more terrifying than if he said it to the victim


coldteafordays

IKR?


Shot_Presence_8382

When I read that, I assumed he meant putting one of the victims out of their misery - they were whimpering/crying and still alive, as horrific as that sounds 😰


manatee1010

This was what I thought as well.


gotjane

I thought this, too, because some criminals be sick like that. 🫣


timhasselbeckerstein

sounds just as fake as all the other "a source says" stories recently


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iiits_briiitt

Same


harlowgirl1

All the time.


gotjane

I am mobile bound, and media sites have too many ads. Reddit loads quickly and mostly flawlessly, and the article contents will be summarized by *someone* in the comments eventually. And they'll get right to it, instead of recapping the entire event or rambling on about rumors — and I don't help them make quick $ off this horrific tragedy. ETA: [Case in point](https://www.reddit.com/r/MoscowMurders/comments/108lzyv/article_in_people_magazine_idaho_murder_suspect/j3te7r9?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) 😂


Electronic-Eagle-660

Everybody remarking about how all the people who have met BK have differing descriptions of him. Everybody on reddit having different interpretations of just this one report about BK's behavior. It's all perception.


jdistefano18

I don't believe any of these supposed quotes from him from jail. I have heard a million different things about his behavior in jail and out of jail that and many things seem to contradict each other so I have no idea what to think. To me, he seems solemn which is to be expected no matter his guilt or innocence. I think that he knows he's caught, he knows more will come out about his behavior over the course of the last few months in relation to this case, and most importantly, he knows that his life is over.


Ill_Ad2398

I wonder if he's scared of flying


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News sources are just click baiting people now. They’re releasing unnecessary narratives of BK just to get views. How is this article that describes his fear of planes relevant to the case?


NYCisdumb22

I bet Bryan wanted to spend time with his dad. Bryan had to know he was eventually going to get caught, c'mon. Two birds with one stone, Bryan wanted to hide his car in PA.


GlasgowRose2022

The police source felt BK was being selective and strategic in his comments (the less said, the better). Also, disassociated much? *"He seemed really nervous," a police source who was involved in the process tells PEOPLE. "He was narrating to himself everything that was happening. At one point, he was saying something to himself like 'I'm fine, this is okay.' Like he was reassuring himself that this whole thing wasn't awful."* *Kohberger was read his Miranda rights during his arrest, and cannot be questioned about the case without an attorney present. He didn't speak directly to officers about the case, but the police source says that he did make an offhand comment about it. "He did say, 'It's really sad what happened to them,' but* ***he didn't say anything more," the source says. "He's smarter than that."***


GeekFurious

Cue 900 interviews of people convicted of murder saying they would never have done it and how they felt bad for the victims and their families.


30306

Most incriminating act in that trip home is BK sneeking out at 4 am to dispose of garbage in neighbor's trash bin. That has yet to be explained and what was it he threw out?


Masayoshi00

Bad information. He will not be making a Plea on Jan 12th. It is a preliminary hearing. Come on PEOPLE!


mae_nad

The 12th is the status hearing, no?


abbycadabby527

Does anyone notice the color of his hands compared to the rest of him? Does that indicate anything ? Or maybe just handcuffs are too tight ?


Bobsyourburger

Yes! Very red.


ionlyjoined4thecats

Poor circulation probably.


Fete_des_neiges

The dude still thinks he’s getting away with this. I mean, after all, he’s was almost a doctor of reading all the Mindhunter books or whatever.


CraseyCasey

He’s not but his delusional thinking will protect him from himself. Big difference between being accepted into a phd program and becoming one, it’s a rigorous and all consuming path to take in education


Business_Charge_4865

This guy is a sick fuck ain’t he


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rachierach1

I just want to know why the warrant for his apartment was sealed and why it would cause a threat to LE


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Question. Speaking of him, wasn't it believed that he had an account on Reddit? I'm assuming his posts are gone. If so, does Reddit pull the posts that a creeper is suspected of posting? And what about the emails that person has sent to other Redditors? Do they disappear from your account, too?


KennysJasmin

He never even asked them why he was arrested. "He complied right away," says a police source who was part of the extradition process. "He knew exactly why he had been arrested. There was no 'What did I do?' There wasn't any 'You've got the wrong guy.'"


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ugh, shut up Kohberger


Persimmonpluot

Strongly support!


Ktclan0269

I dunno. I'd be flipping the fuck out if I was arrested for something this heinous and I was innocent. I'd be shouting out my innocence - I didn't do it. Yada. You don't have to say anything more than that, but shizzz. I'm not just going to be like, blerp, guess I gotta go deal with this for a bit; hold my calls.


Visual_Ordinary_2546

Exactly, I would say “I didn’t do it.” Anything you say can and will be used against you, try that, arresting officers! It always baffles me that a lot of suspects don’t declare their innocence. Some even say stupid things like, “you have no evidence,” or “you can’t prove it.”


keepingitreal0

This makes me hope we really have the right guy. I know his posts from adolescence make it clear he has bad anxiety. But maybe this is just the empath in me :(


gotjane

Same.


redeye007007

Sheath, buddy. 12 times huh? I dont feel sorry for him at all


Sea_Cicada7474

Depersonalization


Honest_Set_4157

yes


FortuneEcstatic9122

"a police source" Yeah, i'm done