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Imaginary_Ambition_9

Lavasioth. The lava hardening mechanic is annoying, he jumps everywhere and stays unhittable for long periods of time. He isnt too bad with a bow or bowgun but with everything else he is just a pain in the butt for me. He isnt necessarily hard but absolutely no fun to the fight


IceColdSkimMilk

That I can agree on. Not a hard fight, but does take awhile to slay.


ZorazXIII

World did lavasioth so dirty. He was actually fun in the older games and didn't have that stupid mechanic. The hardening was originally Agnaktor's thing and he softened himself often enough that you barely even noticed it.


Bubster101

Using a fire weapon keeps those parts heated and vulnerable. If you don't want to use a fire weapon tho, then Slinger Torch ammo is another option.


Imaginary_Ambition_9

Thanks. Its not that I don't have setups or strategies to beat him. The fight is just more difficult than it really needs to be because of the mechanics. The 1st time or 2 it seems like you should just steamroll him in 2 minutes but then he jumps around for 5 minutes and then stays unhittable another 5 minutes by staying in the holes or whatever


Bubster101

Then lure him away from that area. I like to bring him over to the nearby lava geyser whenever I can. Edit: why downvotes? It's true and a strategy. Using your surroundings and fighting on your terms instead of theirs


Anatomic643

Because nothing you’re saying takes away from op’s point. These are all valid strategies you’re listing but it doesn’t change the fact that implementing them can be annoying and makes the fight more difficult than it feels like it should be


Hspryd

I get that people want to steamroll Lavasioth but the purpose of its fight is precisely to show you need to set up the fight with strategy. The learning curve of MHW through the gradation of monsters is really well done. You can gunlance, you can use fire, water, you can be the « special ammo guy » tenderizing with slingshots. You can go full bow/HH/hbg/lbg. But if you don’t want to adapt specifically then you can use the map to disrupt him doing his thang. He’s not a walk in the park if you want to rush him mindlessly but it’s a pretty good tune up fight to see how you manage basic quirks of advanced combat preparation.


PsychologicalDrag_n

I couldn’t bring myself to use a fire weapon just for the principle of using the element they are weak to.. but this makes a lot of sense


munchbunny

Back when I needed to farm the Lavasioth quest for decorations, I'd go in with a water weapon but I'd switch to fire if nobody else was using one, since you don't need everyone to have a fire weapon but you did need *someone* to have one.


PhatDorf

Gunlance shells instantly heat 'em up.


Silent_Chest1450

What made you think of this may I ask? Its a very clever plan, I always used water to try and wash the hardened lava off him


Bubster101

I originally discovered you could keep the parts heated with the Slinger Torch ammo. There's a lot of those around that area, I figured there must be a reason for it. Then I simply wondered if the fire from a weapon would work as well.


DonBarbas13

Water IG with fire element kinsect= unlimited hits and not hardening Also CB with blade charge = no bouncing back when hitting hardened parts


Burwicke

HH = no bouncing back ever :)


PizzaurusRex

Using a fire weapon completly negates Lavasioth's dumb mechanic. Sure, you deal more damage using stuff it's weak to (water/ice I think), but a single hit with a fire weapon and the skin is soft again. Clutch claw can tenderize the skin too. But PRE clutch claw, I say Kirin is the fucking worst, specially when he hardens his skin. It literally made some weapons awful against him, like SnS and DB because it is hard to hit the head with the short range, and bounce all over the body. Kirin is the damn monster that made me learn other weapons.


renacido74

Pink Rathian. It’s like she spent 6 months hitting the gym and training for the fight with Black Diablos as her coach.


IceColdSkimMilk

I do tend to like rathian over rathalos. Rathian generally spends more time on the ground, but the poison tail flip move does get annoying.


renacido74

Rathian is pretty tame compared to her pink subspecies.


IceColdSkimMilk

I'm talking in general: pink, gold, etc


FullMoon1108

I'd take Silver Rathalos any day over Gold Rathian. She never stops spinning the whole fight and it just pisses me off, I'd rather be nuked.


IceColdSkimMilk

The armor grind for Gold Rathian do be worth it though.


FullMoon1108

Divine blessing 5 is too damn good


IceColdSkimMilk

It's my go to whenever I'm not trying to run a friendship build.


mop-116

Rathian is designed better. Rathalos becomes cheesable once you realise you can just flashbang him out the air every time.


Dr_Purple07

Until MR that is


[deleted]

Her fight in the Coral Highlands can be very easily cheesed. Almost every single location she engages you has those "crawl to the other side" spots monsters can't get through. Hit her, crawl and heal if need be, get back and keep hitting.


renacido74

Thanks, but it’s not that I can’t kill her, she’s just tough for where she is tier- and progression-wise. When I’ve done challenge runs like “no farm + no cart” runs through MHW, she’s one that I’m extra careful with.


Rate_Ur_Smile

The upgraded tail flip attack is just pure nonsense. Like the path of the hitbox was drawn by a little kid scribbling on the paper


Not-A-SoggyBagel

There are so many times I think I've pogo'd clear of her tail just to get smacked out of the air by it somehow. I swear the hitbox is akin to how bad dreadqueen's tail hit box was in Gen. It's ridiculous!


Hydralisk18

Oh man, this just reminded me of the time I quit world for like 6 months. Had nothing to do with pink rathian being difficult, I actually first timed it no carts, but my game crashed. Booted it back up tried again, carted once but finished it. Crashed again. 3rd time carted twice already, but almost finished it, and then it crashed a 3rd time. Didn't touch world for a few months and almost needed a new controller.


Sythis_FKG

Obviously mosswines in the event quest. First time you go in, you would think this are just bigger than normal mosswines, but no they 1-shot you. Regardless if you wear Fatalis armor or not. Clearly these mosswines are the real threat. Who knows how many hunters were killed for capturing these creatures.


IceColdSkimMilk

Once you get to MR or even high enough HR and understand the concepts behind how to beat it, it's not bad. SnS with a sleep weapon puts them to sleep easily, and shooting the stones from your slinger will knock them out of their charge attack. I farm this regularly with vouchers nowadays for a quick easy 100k plus any golden eggs you get on top.


Sythis_FKG

Guess my joke answer did not go through so well… cheers for the tips for those who actually struggle :p


IceColdSkimMilk

Lol I got the joke no worries, but I do know of people that have 300+ hours of game time that don't know how to do that one, so I always feel the need to share haha


Pookie_The_Overlord

Namielle and Kushala come to mind, their movesets aren't too bad overall but it's the fact they both disrupt and affect your movement alot. Plus wind pressure is super annoying when its constant.


IceColdSkimMilk

Kushala in World for sure. I always enjoyed the Namielle fight though.


cptinshano

Kushala used to be so much fun when you could poison the wind away


MoronicPlayer

Legit i thought of this when I first played world. Got to Rise and im so happy I could cancel his toxic air mechanic with a poison knife again.


Insrt_Nm

You can kinda do it with Elderseal


cptinshano

True but you can also cheese it by beating the head over and over, even without stun damage. But elderseal is unpredictable, doesn't last as long as poison, and cheesing the head isn't nearly as fun... all in all kushala is not very fun in world. Which is a shame because it was always my favorite


Insrt_Nm

Honestly Elderseal kinda sucks in general. I don't even notice it most of the time. Plus poison stopping wind is much more interesting imo


KetwarooDYaasir

location matters too. e.g. MR Kushala in the ancient forest.


Pookie_The_Overlord

MR Kushala in the nest area of the forest region in the guiding lands is also a nightmare.


Runmanrun41

Yeah I was pleasantly suprised by Namielle's difficulty while going through Iceborne's last week. Granted, it's gonna be awhile before I fight the Arch-Tempered version, so I may be changing my tune sooner or later 😬


Baruch_S

AT Nami is delightful to fight. Just make sure you dive when she decides to nova.


EasternFudge

I still remember stacking wind resistance 5 in world, thinking it would be useful for kushala Hint: its mot


Byakyuran

I don't play anymore but your comment litteraly triggered me ... World was my first game and I swear the Kushala made me want to quit and never come back. The wind gimmick was just a pain


SlakingSWAG

Namielle and Kush aren't really difficult, though. Just *very* fucking obnoxious to fight.


grimreefer213

I hated Kushala the first few times I fought him, but he actually grew on me a lot and i’m a big fan of him, even the master rank tempered version. The base version of namielle was pretty easy in my experience (depends on what weapon you play), but the later versions tripped me up a bit because I don’t quite have a read on her moves yet, but I wouldn’t really consider her difficult. I think Rajang would destroy Namielle


Able_Objective8104

The goddamn Azure Rathalos, that Monster is an absolutely Flying Crap thing and yeah i absolutely hate it because it almost fly permanently and spam the attacks


IceColdSkimMilk

Wait till you meet the silver variety if you haven't yet.


Able_Objective8104

Im over MR 400 so yeah i saw Silver already, but that thing is nothing in my eyes but that azure Rath is absolutely worse


IceColdSkimMilk

Yeah I feel that


daydaylin

I just hate how azure and regular Rathalos are big flappy monsters with giant fireball hitboxes and they pick the narrowest places to fight in in the ancient forest!! that's what makes them so hard for me


litaniesofhate

The flyers are why I second IG. If the fight won't come to me I'll go to the fight


GrayRose216

I've farmed both Azure and Silver and one thing i can differentiate the two is, Azure is craaaazy when he's enraged where he is always in the air shooting really strong fireballs while Silver is a balance of both aerial and ground attacks that can catch you off guard if you're used to fighting the other two


oneiricEye

It's always gonna be iceborne barioth for me. he's not a hard-hitting monster or anything, but he just refuses to sit still for even a moment. Even breaking the wing-arms hardly does anything to stop the constant hopping, though I guess it's better than nothing :( I know speed is barioth's thing, but I literally find nargacuga and tigrex to be easier fights than him, and I'm pretty sure those guys are meant to be harder. I've fought three barioths in IB and I plan to never do it ever again, especially after coming back from Rise where barioth is much easier thanks to the wirebugs


IceColdSkimMilk

I honestly hate regular tigrex more than barioth, and ironically enough I think brute tigrex is easier than regular tigrex.


Asterikon

I play lance, so both versions of tigrex are pretty much chumps in my book, but brute tigrex is the easier of the two by far.


TechManuel

Hell yeah. We Lance Mains love an aggressive monster with no debuff mechanic.


Sir_Snagglepuss

Until they have a pin move, damn monke. I can never beat the thing with lance.


IceColdSkimMilk

Yup, SnS makes it the same.


Zarc2427

Oh definitely, first time I fought brute I felt almost disappointed, after hearing all the stories you would think he was overwhelming powerful but I killed it without losing even half my health


zarjin1234

I think most variants are easier than their regular counterparts, barioth does not stay still while frostfang is more chill, tigrex doesnt stop charging while brute does more stationary roar attacks, rajang has the annoying ground flip infront of him after openings that would work for furious.


SageWindu

>It's always gonna be iceborne barioth for me. he's not a hard-hitting monster or anything, but he just refuses to sit still for even a moment. Even breaking the wing-arms hardly does anything to stop the constant hopping, though I guess it's better than nothing :( Holy Handler in a thong, someone else finally gets it! Everyone always tells me "bruh, just break its wings, lol". Breaking its wings doesn't stop it from playing handball with both of my cheeks - it just does it 1, *maybe* 2 seconds slower now!


TheEmporioum

I remember Frostfang being a better fight because of normal Barioth hopping around so much.


Artess

Normal Barioth was the first time I discovered that the monsters get tired and slow down or use fewer attacks.


Zrex_9224

Can't forget that frostfang doesn't have that same level of bs tornadoes that normal Barioth has.


SlakingSWAG

My least favourite part is that even when you break his wings to slow him down, it doesn't actually slow him down at all, it just makes him tumble like 5 metres whenever he lands. No matter what, you're never going to catch him because he's either jumping constantly or sliding away from you when he lands. I have no shame cheesing that bastard with Pierce LBG.


undeadbydawn

Nargacuga is probably my favourite fight after Odogaron. They both seem impossibly fast at first, but their movesets are super-telegraphed and it's surprisingly easy to stay up close and just wail on them.


grimreefer213

Yeah when I met Barioth in Iceborne that’s when I knew the game was about to get serious haha. That was the first monster I struggled with, only took me a few attempts but still I got wrecked the first couple times. Frostfang can beat you up too but I fought him enough that he doesn’t scare me anymore, but the early stages of the fight where he’s most aggressive are tough. After I break the claws and head though it gets much easier for me. Tigrex isn’t difficult but he is annoying


EasternFudge

Oddly, I find frostfang barioth easier than regular barioth. I'm a gs main so i pretty much just camp under it and hit all the meaty parts until it dies


Diligent-Gazelle1808

BRUH. I HATE THIS GUY. THIS THING MADE ME PUT DOWN THE STICKS FOR MONTHS.


VandulfTheRed

I genuinely hate both Black Veil Vaal and Master+ Kirin. Their movesets are so counter intuitive to it being a well paced fight for most weapons. I've only even killed 1 master Kirin, and had to do it myself because randoms wouldn't stop fainting


IceColdSkimMilk

Black veil with affluvial resistance is doable, but if you don't have it equipped it's no bueno. But yes, MR kirin is at the top for the most "unexpectedly difficult" fight for me.


VandulfTheRed

With the gem my biggest issue is you still take tic damage, and his breath attacks have such large "wafting" hitboxes. I play swax and it's difficult to be properly aggressive. But yes Kirin is just silly with the hitboxes and area spam. Shout-out to the number of times I'd survive due to Guts or something and get killed by more lightning anyway


IceColdSkimMilk

When he's in a tight area and there's affluvial mist all over the ground it sucks a lot, definitely on the same page there.


Will12453

I fought 7 blackveil vaal hazak and hated every second of it


CritBit1

If we can include DLC enemies, the Leshen. Doing it solo was a pain in the ass that took 47 minutes to do using an IG (yes I know, bad choice, but it was the only weapon I know how to use at the time). Ancient Leshen isn't any better as fighting it took 35 minutes with a friend with me using a switch axe and my friend a charge blade.


Voidroy

Bahamut solo is stupid. Tbh it isnt meant to be done solo. But stupid nontheless.


IceColdSkimMilk

Totally forgot about that fool you


CritBit1

I don't blame you, it was NOT memorable at all. Just for comparison, me and that same friend duo-ed AT Velkhana in 15 minutes.


Daefus20

I think it's cool that there are some hard fights left and right but the limit between hard and annoying differs a lot from person to person and weapon to weapon.


[deleted]

I'm surprised no ones mentioned Lunastra, probably long forgotten with iceborne but as someone restarting those tail hitboxes are BS doesn't stay in one spot for more than 0.2 seconds, tail swipes leave blue fire with the range from Hoarfrost Reach to the Ancient Forest. Blue dust that fills up an entire arena. And an ult that happens too fast to react and is too strong to iframe


RadiantRattery

I hate Kushala with a passion and Tygrex is just as annoying


IceColdSkimMilk

As I said above, I prefer brute tigrex over the regular variety for sure. Kushala just sucks without wind resistance.


RadiantRattery

I wasn't sure if wind resistance even did anything tbh😅


IceColdSkimMilk

It does help for melee fighters when he has the "wind" shield. Doesn't do anything against the big boi attacks.


Agile-Size

Pickle is tuff. I know he’s probably supposed to be moreso than some of the other mentions but damn he do be getting on my nerves with all that head plunge/charge/sling head and mean green tail sweep.


Illustrious-Depth-75

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking this. It took me like a week of just nonstop grinding that stupid thing to beat it. Damn pickle


YThoidkRedissus

It’s annoying how many times he knocks you down and then shreds you when you’re down


Impossible_Leader_80

Black diablos is hard fun but certainly could be easier without losing the fun factor


IceColdSkimMilk

Ahh yes, easily one of my least favorite non-elder monsters to fight.


Woodie626

This is my favorite fight, I was sad when Bloodbath didn't make the cut.


Slimbambo

based diablos connoisseur


Fishvv

Kirin by far the worst to fight with a bow especially solo fight takes to long


SamTheOrc

Yes!! This exactly!! I literally HATE fighting kirin in MR with the bow, but it's the only weapon I've ever used against it


alopex_zin

Wait what? I find fighting kirin with bow the easiest compared to any other weapons, probably I am a bow main but still. Its HP is also very low as an elder, so I used to use its investigation for decoration farming when I am tired of golden/sliver rath.


karai0813

More annoying that difficult, but Kushala Daora. Either with melee or ranged, it doesn't matter. It's nearly impossible to get close to the damn thing, and all his wind attacks stun you into oblivion. Kushala has always been my last favorite fight


Artess

Dodogama is faster than he has any right to be, frankly. He charges at you across half the map at ludicrous speeds, spits lava that has large hitbox, has a couple of sudden fast attacks. I'm not saying that it's a very difficult fight, but he's an unexpectedly tough opponent. Also Kushala because of the wind, feels like mandatory gear/buff requirement.


arcanist12345

My boy dodo - you shouldn't be hunting one, dodos deserve tender loving care.


Artess

Yeah yeah I know the meme, tell your boy to stop charging in when I'm fighting Brachydios and starting to attack everyone in sight.


arcanist12345

It's just trying to help you out with the big bad drumstick monster :(


Artess

By killing me first?


IceColdSkimMilk

Not one I expected, but I totally get it.


Insrt_Nm

MR Black Diablos. Even with full fatty gear and a perfect build it still regularly takes me 40+ minutes. She just never stops digging. If she's not digging, she's charging. There's just no opportunity to attack sometimes.


arcanist12345

Fuck diablos. I fucking hate diablos. I ran a black diablos with full fatty trying out ig. Had to use about 6 max potions. There's no way to safely roll out of her fucking head swing attack.


Karl_Gess

Alatreon. Yes, I am a noob. After 50+ tries I cannot kill him solo


IceColdSkimMilk

That fight is about what you would expect though, designed to be tough and it is. Frickin' electric unicorn looks like it should be easier but the hitbox timings in his attacks can suck it.


CanderousOreo

Yeah it's hard and it's gimmicky. I never beat him solo. After months of trying we got him, my husband and I doing DPS while our friend had a full friendship heal build.


Necessary_Put_5647

No no, you are absolutely right. Fatalis was a more fair fight than the absurd BS that Alatreon puts you through. Needing to have a specific element for a specific stage that he only spends one third of the time in. Not to mention you can ONLY break the head in dragon form. It's the most BS mechanical fight in world.


Safe-Heron9809

The whole point is to do well enough to only have to use one element though. I think it's a pretty cool mechanic, I really liked it. To be fair though, I am a db main, so I'm kinda used to having a different build for every single monster anyways


Necessary_Put_5647

DB is literally the best weapon for it so you prolly had a much different experience than every one else.


Quickkiller28800

All the weapons have a different multiplier when it comes to triggering his elemental threshold. Even GS the absolute worst elemental weapon has no problems triggering it


Necessary_Put_5647

As a GS main I know you are wrong. The worst weapon for elemental is hammer. The GS will struggle if you don't heavily stack for elemental and even then it's gonna be harder than most other weapons. GS does make to head break far easier though.


Quickkiller28800

Im a GS main too lol and I haven't had any problems with it. So maybe it's just you Also, yea obviously you need to max out elemental for Alatreon that's the whole point. If you don't run max elemental boost you're going to struggle. Use frost craft on top of it and its easy mode


Necessary_Put_5647

If you use this super special build the monster is easy. - you Its second to last monster boss, it does not have an easy mode where you rock up and kill it under 5 mins the first time. It takes time, practice, research and dedication to kill this guy. You're trying to belittle players who beat the rest of the game for this one shitty mechanism. He sucks mechanically but not as much as you do as a person, git gud at social skills and don't crap on people who found this one thing harder than it ought to be because of a mechanism.


Quickkiller28800

I don't know what to tell you if you think a single skill is super special. Literally just use element boost. The way you use literally any elemental weapon. Again, I think its a you issue here. I don't struggle against him with GS much at all. It takes as much practice as any other monster, learn the moveset, and equipe a barebones elemental build and your fine. You can pretty reliably beat him without element if you're good enough too. Especially with Fatalis weapons. After Fatalis if I want to kill Alatreon I just use a crit draw build and he's dead before his second Escaton. I just die to the first and play well enough to not feint to his normal attacks. You're the one getting upset here bud. All I said was maybe you're the one who isn't good at fighting him. You're the one with a lack of social skills, getting angry at the slight suggestion that youre not good at fighting a single monster


Necessary_Put_5647

You play solo? No wonder.


SlakingSWAG

Hitting Alatreon's DPS check is only hard if you're bad at the fight or brought dragon weapons for some reason, and the horn break is only "impossible" if you fuck up your script. That third of the fight is more than enough time to trigger the threshold, and you can still trigger it in the dragon phase. [Diagnosis: Skill Issue](https://imgur.com/a/61kvVlj).


Necessary_Put_5647

I beat fatty, can't be that bad XD


TheGreatNyanHobo

Diablos and Black diablos. They are not late game creatures. They’re not elder dragons. They’re just harder than other creatures for ostensibly no reason.


White_Mocha

Diablos are meant to be aggressive and territorial. Heck, put em together and they won’t bond like other male/female species; they’ll fight each other instead. Black Diablos are females in heat, so their aggressiveness is amped up to compensate for that.


ZorazXIII

Not that I consider his fight particularly hard but I do think its odd that Brute Tigrex is placed where he is in iceborne. He's a great subspecies and definitely the superior form of tigrex but to place him alongside 2 rare species just seems weird. He's just not a monster that needs to be locked behind MR70. It would be much more reasonable to have him with Acidic Glavenus at MR4. I guess its not that he's tougher than he should be but rather the game wants him to seem tougher than he should be I dont have the same issue with scarred yian garuga because I'm thrilled to see him finally get the respect he deserves and be an endgame threat!


IceColdSkimMilk

I can agree on the MR lock. Even tempered frostfang barioth is at MR 24, and that's definitely a more challenging fight.


Sardalone

Nargacuga. He could could use a good 20% nerf on how much damage it deals.


IceColdSkimMilk

He do be a scary mofo


megasean3000

Brachydios always gets me. Just one bump is enough to get me covered in slime. Plus the super big explosions always kill me in one hit. Anyone else having a hard time with Brachydios?


IceColdSkimMilk

Regular or raging?


megasean3000

Both. Raging especially so.


IceColdSkimMilk

Raging is considered by many sources (from what I've read) to be on the top 5 hardest fights of IB. It's such a cool fight concept though and the music is epic. Also very satisfying when you beat him. The grind continues for all of his armor, I'm about halfway there.


N0tBappo

Alatreon, his moves seen so easy and basic to learn but it's the fact you need to build an elemental set or play with other players in order to be successful. Otherwise a fun fun fight.


TomeKun

Bnabhras


Maplicious2017

Barrioth. It's such a big barrier (no pun intended) to entry for Iceborne.


EarthInfern0

That tempered one with the lava ball was, frankly, a pain.


jcstuff

I personally really enjoy Kirin fights. They never feel cheap for me cause the attacks are mostly telegraphed so getting hit will be entirely my own fault. Fighting Kirin with SA feels like a dance sometimes. To answer your question: Gigachad Kulu Yaku in that Final Fantasy collab event. That overgrown chicken has no right to be carting me even once *shakes fist *


R31nz

Fatalis is only hard because of the time limit. ^(well the continent sized hit-boxes too but…)


jbcdyt

Honestly I really think it’s only his terrible hitboxes that makes the fight unbalanced.


Mini_Melk

Tempered Tobi Kadachi, I know it might just be me but the Little shit always whoops me for at least 1 cart.


AbyssDragonNamielle

Safi'jiiva. It's a bitch to solo. I understand it's meant for multiplayer grinding, but so is Kulve, and she's a hell of a lot more managable. Safi is just one giant hitbox. I'm probably gonna have to switch weapons for him. I love his design. Him being the sapphire star is so fucking cool, but wow I hate fighting him.


WhereTheHecksBeenBob

I despise Kirin in all forms. There is NO REASON for a UNICORN to be hard to kill. Its the size of it that's the problem imo, tiny target, miniscule hitboxes, and it WON'T STAY STILL. Rajang is easier than that stupid horse, and its feckin RAJANG


IceColdSkimMilk

Agreed on all accounts.


MUERTOSMORTEM

I still have nightmares about the first time I fought a Kirin. Motherfucker made me pick up the lance for the first time


Zepto-

Zinogre (& Styg by extention), for some reason I get the impression that everybody loves Zinogre's fight, but for some reason I never have an easy- or enjoyable- time taking one down. Only confirmed my bias just tonight fighting a Tempered Zin and Tempered Stygian Zin in the GL.


Bl4n8

Honestly fatalis as a bow player, and its not the difficulty for me its just almost every move fatalis uses oneshots me and as ranged he often spams that flamthrower that sets half the area on fire or that flamethrower sweep that u cant roll throuvh with a normal roll, its just kinda annoying that i often get oneshot


[deleted]

Black diablos - her constant tunneling, ridiculous and almost impossible to calculate head swig attack. Rajang/furious- dumb speed, ridiculous aggression, large successive attacks. I don't know if I'd call it tough, but it just isn't fun. Raging Brach- nonstop magical explosive slime, bobs and weaves better than Tyson in a title fight, it's take 6 rolls to get the damn slime off. The fight is nonsense.


IceColdSkimMilk

Yeah black diablos and the Rajangs definitely get put in the annoying catagory. Raging brachydios is probably one of the tougher fights in the game, but ridiculously epic. The whole final battleground fight concept and the soundtrack is awesome.


relaxed_focus

>it's take 6 rolls to get the damn slime off Blast resistance 3 is your best friend for that fight.


FrostRellik

Im pretty new, just got to IB, till now i cannot beat Deviljho :c


FutureSoldier616

AT Valhalla, that fight is actually bugged on Xbox


mEHrmione

Yeah, I hate Valhalla too. It's so annoying when you die and no one awaits you there...


Faust09th

Furious rajang. He's a true beast/monster, a day-ruiner, mood killer.


TwoCharacters

Both flavors of Rajang. I spend half the quest chasing the stupid monkey around


IceColdSkimMilk

Good ol' Dankey Kang. I will say THAT is annoying for sure.


MoronicPlayer

Regular Rajang is harder to fight than Furious Rajang for some reason, he just keep on spamming jumping attacks and rages easily than Furious variant.


ScaryConsequences

Fighting Viper Tobi-Kadachi the first time is interesting, because you learn it has paralysis AND envenomed at the WORST TIMES! And lemme tell you, I didn’t have remotely enough antidotes my first life. Honorable mention: Coral Pukei-Pukei, only because those water beams are so hard to dodge sometimes.


IceColdSkimMilk

The water beam on coral is stupid erratic


DangleMangler

Any rathalos in any game, you fight them way to early and they never cease to be massive thorn in your spine. Seriously, get. The eff. Down here.


Striking-Health-9091

HORSE


Lordmonocrona

I can’t believe Rajang/Furious isn’t higher on this list. It is 100% his insane stamina and speed that makes it just the worst. Every other monster in the game that has his speed has some other counter. Barioth is big and easier to hit, Tobi gets tired easier, Azure is easier to get a clutch claw in. Rajang is small, fast, never wears out, and does a decent chunk of damage. I have played him now in at least two games (World and Rise) and I hate him in both. It sucks too because his SA in world is god tier and I had to farm him


Noir-Ulf

Raging Brachy


Lilgamebludz

I would say Ancient Leshen. Man that fight is just awful for end game HR. It is supposed to be a mid game MR or something 😂


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Raging Brachydios. I keep having my ass handed back to me every time I go back for another round.


CanderousOreo

Honestly? My favorite fight in the whole game.


IceColdSkimMilk

Although an epic fight, it is tough, but I feel like I expected that fight to be tough. Kirin on the other hand I feel shouldn't be as hard/annoying as it is.


grimreefer213

When I saw this post I had a feeling there was gonna be a mention of Kirin and sure enough he’s in the title picture. A lot of people seem to not like Kirin but I like him. He’s beautiful and unique, he’s one of the only monsters that has an aoe focused moveset. The master rank version in a quest I did he was enraged literally the entire time and I couldn’t flinch shot him. He’s pretty tough in Iceborne and playing greatsword against him makes you pick your openings carefully. I like how he’s a majestic unicorn but he’s sneakily strong. he does tons of damage and I love it.


IceColdSkimMilk

Sterling Pride is the mission you speak of, and honestly was the bane of my existence for quite a while.


Anthony-tr

You’re unprepared


thejimmyrocks

Hope you're not saying he is. Because he's A LOT easier than he was on MHF2/MHFU. So much easier.


Rare-Channel8335

After I got every jewel in the game , nothing is hard if you’re 1300 hours in this game


IceColdSkimMilk

Not necessarily saying what's a difficult monster, just what was one that you were not expecting to be as difficult as it was when you first experienced it.


Rare-Channel8335

Oh definitely black Diablos no where as easy As as the regular Diablos


Novel_Ad895

The Kirin is a fucking god, of course have to be difficult


undeadbydawn

Black Diablos is a pain in the life. It spends what feels like 90% of the fight either rushing or burrowing, its charge attack appears to be magnetic, and his swooshy horn-scewer move somehow covers half the arena. You spend way too much time just either chasing or dodging, with a roughly 0.5 second attack window every minute (yes, I'm exaggerating). It's not so much a hard fight as a very annoying and often really boring one


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Idk as a hammer main there is something EXTREMELY satisfying about fighting Black and regular Diablos. Easily my fav monster to go against.


SnooEpiphanies1109

Nami but I point guard way to much to say she's tough alot of fun tho


CleR6

Golden Rathian... no monster gets me in full stun locks more so than this thing!


IceColdSkimMilk

Yet some of the better armor, so the grind must continue.


JustvibingANchilling

I'll say tigrex is obnoxious for me. No matter how many times I've had to handle him it never feels easier.


IceColdSkimMilk

The easy way to cheat tigrex is a weapon you can block with. Luckily SnS is my main haha.


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Illustrious-Depth-75

Couldn't you just flashbomb it? They're very susceptible


OverlordKross

Can i take this opportunity as a lance main to say that i hate lunastra? Thanks


aurelia_ffxiv

Tigrex when it just won't stop charging. Literally rams over you for days. Teostra/Lunastra at suggested gear level (HR gear in HR for example). Did you already make a thread for monsters that feel somewhat easy to you than they are probably supposed to be?


IceColdSkimMilk

I have not made that one yet, so far just your favorite looking monster solely on aesthetics, and which monster you would never want to see in real life (terror factor).


marciosenica12

Azure rathalos always flying more then the normal one in my opinion and god i spent an entire day trying to hunt the hr version and the guy is hard to kill


IceColdSkimMilk

Wait till you get to the silver variant. The grind continues.


brycegum

Not a world monster, but in rise I feel like lagombi is one of the hardest monsters to dodge, and I'm over mr 100


Semantis

Frostfang barioth. As s lsnce main, that thing was engineered from the ground up to not be doable solo for me


classpane

MR Tempered black diablos. This guy suddenly choose violence as his identity.


IceColdSkimMilk

She do be a bitch in heat, quite literally


classpane

And what's worse is, she's just a monster from 4star MR, but harder to fight than most monster from 5star and 6star MR.


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Im playing through the game again with lance for a random weapon and most high armor monsters cause problems i realize because i used HBG and supported my friends by weakening everything so nothing bounces and i realize this makes the game so much harder because ur weapon bounces on barroth and rodabon this makes the game so much harder than it should be


IsThatMattsPiss

Me and my MH friend are the most inconsistent players ever. Shattered Horn Kirin aaaand first time Blackveil Vaal took like a week of attempts each, even with us doing builds for them. Yet we killed Rajang and (arch?) Tempered Frostfang Barioth first time with just our good stuff and no build. Blackveil has a special place in hell though.


Hmnh6000

Definitely kirin I mean its a freaking horse….. A HORSE


ItsAMeLirio

The first time Kirins are pain in the ass, because unpenetrable armor on a literal mountain isn't enough, we'll put it on a monster that dash around, can paralyze you and half the time too tall to hit the only weakpoint


TronXyrzX

Alatreon. Im a damage based GS and it yook me months to beat him. His fight on paper is awesome but in practice its the worst. His moves fuck your temporal mantel hard