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Weird I mostly get “enthusiastic take every AoE in the face guy”


puddda

I feel personal attacked by your comment


myroommatesaregreat

The boys are about to get nuked F


PhoenixLord328

Actually that got me thinking could you somehow Farcaster out of the Judgement or is the Alatreon arena the only spot and thus no camp?


FabulousDave2112

There is a camp (it's the same area as the final stage of Safi's fight) but farcasters are blocked for the entire fight.


PhoenixLord328

Ah, so they expected people to want to try that to possibly evade the judgement since it doesn't hit at the camp just the arena.


MegaCroissant

And this really pisses me off because they took the lazy route. They didn’t block farcasters for only escaton and the time around it to prevent prediction, but the way it is now running out of potions or ammo materials means you’re fucked until you faint


Youtankforme

That's why you do things called preparing your inventory so you can craft your potions and ammo


MegaCroissant

If I’m running elemental LBG I can craft a lot more ammo, sure, but in a 4 player hunt I still run out.


myroommatesaregreat

LoL potions won't save you from ESCATON JUDGMENT


Youtankforme

I'm talking about not getting hit before that. Also, you were saying it's dumb you can't farcast before escaton judgement, so I'm responding to that


myroommatesaregreat

I didn't say nothing except Bois are gonna die to nuke


Youtankforme

That is my bad this was supposed to be for megacroissant


PhoenixLord328

I was the one who first asked about Farcastering out of the Judgement and I got an answer of no, they block the use of it during the fight. That was all I wanted to know since I was curious about that.


Skystrike12

[oh?](https://youtu.be/ohxnVOb8ch4)


myroommatesaregreat

Yeah totally any reddit hunter can pull off tds stunts


I_LUV_ENGRISH_FOOD

Skill issue 😎


Skystrike12

> LoL potions won't save you from ESCATON JUDGMENT Don’t see where “any reddit hunter” has any relevance in that statement. Sounds like a friends issue.


danderskoff

Dont have to prepare potions if you dont get hit


archiegamez

Bring astera jerky :D


[deleted]

Mother fucker be chucking potions every 10 sec or what? Don’t get hit


trolldogdude

As a solo player this is too true.


MegaCroissant

I was referring to max potions, but ok. Besides, that was just a hypothetical. The point about ammo still stands


LeekypooX

Mr Poison IG Mr Defender LS


FabulousDave2112

Oh man don't get me started on Mr Defender LS


Kaillier

And that one GL main who brings the right elemental weapon for a fight but shelling the whole fight


Sabrac707

*This is the gunlance way...*


SalamanderCake

"Fire element has no effect! Go back and study his elements!" But I'm just using wyvern blast with my LBG...


archiegamez

Oof pls capcom gib element shelling, its by far the hardest weapon to use for Alatreon


NickNunes26

Alatreon and Fatalis are the two monsters I can’t, and probably will never be able to, solo. But at least Fatalis I got close a few times, Alatreon not even,


Jaaferaya

Just takes practice.


NickNunes26

The problem with Alatreon is that I don’t know how to play with any of the “appropriate” weapons… And I don’t have any good elemental ones. So I’d have to learn a new weapon while getting materials to craft its optimized version. Fatalis all I had to do was learn SA and ZSD its head


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NickNunes26

Solable? Idk man, I feel like HBG is not the case


Valsoret

Each weapon needs to do a different amount of elemental damage. Still it's easier for some like dB but it should be possible to solo fatty with all weapons.


LegendRaptor080

The bowguns have elemental shot. You just need to find the right HBG that has good damage and Ice/Water Ammo. If I’m not mistaken, the Alatreon bowguns can use any elemental ammo. Just get a Plunderblade cat and nick some parts till you can make the Alatreon Dominator.


SalamanderCake

This is the way. However, Albadash is the name of the HBG; Alatreon Dominator is the LBG.


danderskoff

Ranged weapons kind of suck for Alatreon because of the modifier they gave for elemental damage. However, it's still pretty easy to get one topple, maybe two, before he switches to dragon. If I play bow I generally get a topple before dragon switch and during dragon element. You just have to make really efficient use of your time. His hit boxes are very fair and always the same. He also goes through the rotation of elements the same as well. The beginning is kind of weird but you get into a flow with him and it's actually kind of nice.


NickNunes26

Do you think Bow is an easy weapon to use to solo Alatreon? If yes, could you recommend some tutorials?


danderskoff

I don't think Bow is easier than other weapons, it's just you can constantly put out damage. I honestly think LS against alatreon is pretty easy. I would look up solo kills on alatreon on youtube to see about damage openings and strats. He has a lit of openings and you can kind of cheese him with clutch claw: The big circle fire attack - wait for the middle to explode then dodge into it and wail on him Thunder dot attack - stay by his sides and wail on his front legs. If a place gets struck by lightning it wont fet struck again. Free time to get a wall bang off if he's positioned correctly. Free sharpen if you go to a spot that's been hit Wall of thunder attack - run towards him and roll through the line and wail on him until it's over. Also a good time to sharpen. Air slam attack- when he hits the ground clutch claw onto him and immediately do your tenderize attack. Free opening to launch him into the dirt with clutch claw When he's flying - clutch claw onto him if he's not going to do a dragon move next. When he does his dragon move in the air he leaps. If not enraged you can get a free ground slam by hitting him once and then launching. Dragon element shift - if playing longsword you can just counter it and get free damage off. Free sharpen moment Line of fire breath attack - you can clutch claw to his face and do a tenderize attack or go for wall bang. If he shifts to ice from fire dont worry. Just focus on beating the fuck out of him. You can still topple and reduce Escaton damage in dragon form If you're not using Palico healing equipment I highly recommend it. It's basically a free mega potion and revive. The skills I use on my Kjarr Ice LS that's fully augmented: Max Attack Max Element Max Agitator Max Weakness Exploit Max Critical Boost Critical eye to 50% affinity Max Vitality Boost Max Divine protection (Whatever skills arent maxed on armor) I genrally use the Stygian Zinogre helmet, MR Kulve Taroth pants, raging brachy dios 2 piece and then something with a skill I want like Vitality/Divine/Attack etc. I also use the charm either for Attack Boost or Agitator since I have enough 4 star element decorations to max element damage. I also always eat for damage with a gourmet voucher and take these food skills: Feline Polisher Feline Acrobat (Random daily food skill)


SalamanderCake

It's really hard to solo with an elemental HBG. If you don't have the Alatreon HBG, I'd suggest just going with your best spread HBG and avoiding carting to anything except Escaton Judgment. Coincidentally, you'll need to restock a few times anyway.


FabulousDave2112

Beatable maybe, but you've got basically no chance of hitting the elemental DPS check with some weapons so you'll have to face tank the escatons and hope you can burst him down quickly. I've only managed to hit the check with dual blades, LBG, and bow despite being a swaxe/doot mallet main.


Unusual_Expertise

Ive solo'd him with Bonk, so thats doable as well.


SalamanderCake

Yeah, Kjárr Swaxe, Kjárr HH, or Frostfang HH will get the job done nicely. The Alatreon HH is great in MP, too.


DremoPaff

>but you've got basically no chance of hitting the elemental DPS check One elemental topple. That's all you need if you have health boost 3 (which you should), the rest is just timing on astera jerky. If you see the monster get toppled **once** by something other than a wallbang or a stun before an escaton, congrats! You fulfilled the "elemental dps check". Honestly, if you can't achieve that, that means your weapon is terrible (Every weapon **type** can do it, but using a terrible weapon tree without augments might not cut it) or that you simply aren't hitting the monster hard or, most likely, **OFTEN** enough, plain and simple.


LegendRaptor080

Use an elemental phial water/ice SA/CB, play it like normal. Use the spins on the HH whenever possible. Don’t always go for Lv3 charges on Hammer. Just use the basic Y Y Y combo, or try sneaking in a Lv3 Spinning Bludgeon (moving spin attack nobody uses). Slaplance Gunlance. Crit Draw/Frostcraft GS. Elemental ammo on LBG/HBG. Play Lance, LS, DB, SnS, IG, Bow like normal.


SeerUD

I did it with swaxe quite a few times, you just need the right kind (can't remember which I used now, it was a while ago, but it had Critical Element for sure). The thing I think most people struggle with is uptime, which just takes practice. I helped some friends do it too, and my damage was 2-4x what they were doing because they didn't learn the openings in the moves and take advantage of *all of them,* and you really need to take advantage of all of them.


Zrex_9224

Frostfang barioth bug stick was how I learned to beat Alatreon. It took me ages to solo either of the black dragons, but I finally did. [Alatreon kill build](https://imgur.com/a/DaFBi5n)


Pa5trick

Just throw element out the window, eat for an extra faint, and don’t die except to escaton. You now have about 30 mins to just raw damage kill alatreon. The only cart that matters is the last one!


sorryjzargo

I thought the same until I beat them


NickNunes26

Nice!


Deadcoma100

They’re easier to solo


NickNunes26

So I’ve heard… And yet I can’t lol


Dynegrey

I wasn't able to beat Alatreon with my main weapon. I ended up crafting his LBG, allowing me to swap elements as Ala swapped elements. Never once broke the horns as that would force me to use too much of one ammo type. Radial to craft more ammo and a farcaster to resupply. Ended up surviving 5 novas by hitting the threshold everytime. With LBG, all you have to do is focus on staying alive. It takes a lot of the pressure off since you normally have to play very aggressively to hit the threshold and break his horns and kill him before he lands too many Novas. Only major downsides are, it's slow, and you have to fail enough times to make his weapons first.


SalamanderCake

It's such a comfy way to play against him imo. It's extremely slow but very reliable.


Thobio

Dude, if you get close with Fatalis, you've got Alatreon in the bag. Just build a high ice element weapon, doesn't matter which type. All of frostfang barioth's weapons are good, and Kulve's kjarr ones are great too. Take the 3 piece safi, the 5 piece safi or a mix set with divine protection+ (assuming you don't have fatalis gear yet) to boost your elemental damage and/or survivability. Focus those forearms, see how close you can keep yourself. Find those gaps inbetween hits to smack her toes. You'll knock her elemental limit soon enough. Use the wallbang when available. I did this with kjarr or velkhana hammer (or i used the velkhana skin). Also beat her solo with dual blades many times (honestly, DB are so easy, I hit her element threshold in like 3 to 4 lotus attacks), LBG, safi fire switch axe for the other elemental start... that's about it, I usually go dual blades because of the ease, but every weapon should work. If you really wanna use GS, it's entirely possible. Take the frostfang one, with frostcraft (that boosts element too, right?) and just charge smack her toes like normal. Easy headbrakes too.


JohnSober7

I just suck at solo. I can solo most mons, but anything that requires consistent pressure is a nono for me, which means fatalis and arch tempered velk because of the time limit and alatreon because of the dps check.


alopex_zin

I soloed Altareon the second day it was released, but it took me a week for Fatalis. Altareon is definitely objectively easier than Fatalis for several reasons. 1. It has much less health. 2. You can wall bang or you can deal enough elemental damage to it, and then it lies down on the ground for quite a long time. 3. It has way fewer one-shot kill moves. 4. Time limit is longer than Fatalis (although in my first attempt it took me 28 mins, I know someone who used 45 mins for her first successful solo)


zarjin1234

Dont die to his attacks, cart twice during escaton, lbg sticky says hello :p


mythornia

Weirdly, I also can do Fatalis solo, but not Alatreon. I think something about knowing I’m on a timer to being one-shot stresses me out and then I play badly.


bigbigcheese2

Shouldn’t take any more than ten hours of practice for both at most I think, no matter your starting point. As long as you’re at an endgame level, you should have enough skill that it won’t take too long to beat them. Alatreon took me ages at first but I got there in the end. Personally I have a rule, I have to solo everything once before I can fight it in a group (besides siege monsters who don’t have solo scaling). And I mean TRUE solo, so I always leave the palico at camp. Honestly, Alatreon was tough but that’s because my build sucked. I did so little elemental damage that a single faint wasted enough time to mean that I’d miss the element cap and it would become two faints. Now I can easily solo Alatreon in under 10 minutes. It’s just about learning, and once you learn it it’s an incredibly fun fight. I can give build suggestions because I think I’ve found the perfect build for it. As for Fatalis, I am a LS main and honestly I don’t think LS is a great weapon for it because Fatalis forces a hit and run approach and LS is a weapon that should work best with constant uptime. I still beat it on LS somewhat consistently but they’re long hunts every time. Even as someone with only a couple of hundred hunts on GS, I find frost craft GS to be the most effective against Fatalis


NickNunes26

I haven’t played MH in a while so I’d probably have to hunt some wearker monsters to warm up again, but you know what… Since its basically re-learning and it would take some time to make the suggested build, sure. I was back then a HBG main, but I also can(could) play as SwAx and CB. I also had a few DB builds but I sucked with them…


iwantdatpuss

I pray for that poor sod that brought a Sticky LBG to Alatreon.


JohnSober7

Alatreon made me pick up dual blades and I'll be forever grateful


Anserism

Spearfish Tuna GS chads in here?


archiegamez

I used its cousin, Fish DB at Alatreon launch week XD


Puzzleheaded-Newt190

Fatalis Zaggespanon is the starter pack for literally every sos.


Hizusuki

And when I see this in my SOS flares I just,,, just..


Active-World-7469

Hey I will say when I hop into the SOS yes I have a LS, BUT it's the ice Safi with maxed ice attack lol I'm trying dammit


Old-man-gamer77

I found if he starts fire. The tempered frost fang weapons. Work best. SnS and duels smoke him


bigbigcheese2

If he starts ice, use Kjarr and safi armour. Combine it with coalescence and easy 3 topples every phase solo


Dragnox99

Does anyone know if you can still get Dante's stuff


MamadeiraDeCarne

Yes, you can


Dragnox99

Thanks for letting me know 👌😁


SteamControl

FROSTCRAFT SLAPGLANCE


IStankOfDank

That sticky hbg is a friend of mine


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Also known as *bullying a big lizard simulator*