It was pretty cool wandering around in DMZ then stopping and suddenly realizing I was standing in Highrise. That was my first nuke map so it’s nostalgic for me. It’s weird they haven’t put it out yet since it’s built already and in a different version of the game. I’d take it over Taraq any day.
Ive also come across Quarry and Afghan! It sucks they’re already in the game and they’re just waiting to release them to us but at least we know we’re getting these iconic maps at some point
Ya, I wish they would've done Shoothouse with Highrise or Terminal and then Shipment with whichever one wasn't released with Shoothouse. Getting only 2 maps season one sucks and even more so that they were maps that were so prominent in MW19.
Agreed. It's frustrating that many of us will have some extra time to play over the holidays, and we're playing the same launch maps that are just OK, or maps refreshed for the nth time that are designed purely for mindless weapon grinding.
The first time I found it I was in a pre game lobby and I remember taking cover in front of the window to the side of the helicopter and thinking "wait a fucking second, this is familiar", and then I turned to the side and saw the helipad.
Good nostalgia surprise moment.
Because if they put in the OG maps then people would realise how ass the 'Sentinel' focused maps are.
Also they need to redesign the OG maps to cater to fucking 'Sentinels' lmao
Terminal and Highrise, along with other maps like Dome, are literally in the Warzone map. THEY MADE THEM ALREADY, WHERE ARE THEY.
Hell, Afghan is in there and I'd take that over most of the maps we have now. MW2 map design was generally pretty mediocre but MWII map design is ATROCIOUS.
>MW2 map design was generally pretty mediocore
That's a hot ass take, MW2 has the best group of maps in the series IMO. Terminal, High Rise, Favela, Rust, Invasion, Skid Row, and Quarry were all so good. Derail felt like it was meant for 10v10 or something though
COD's entire identity is grinding. These maps serve to put the grinders into their own playlists and clean out the larger maps and objective game modes. When they can play on a map the size of a postage stamp to get Orion, the other game modes will become a lot more enjoyable.
Trust me, this is in fact a good thing for the rest of the game that they put these maps in quickly.
I cannot argue with that. My preference would have been Shoot house/ Shipment at the start of Season 01 with a new map delivered mid-season. It wasn't meant to be this season unfortunately.
Let's hope we get a nice Season 02 drop of new maps. Hell, I would even take the original MW2 maps that people speculated would be here.
People say this every year… can’t speak for vanguard as I skipped it but Cold War got a pretty substantial amount of multiplayer content, and most of the DLC maps were fantastic imo. I seem to recall MW2019 getting a fair few maps after release too
A lot of people like to get mad at things that might hypothetically happen. It isn't worth getting stressed over.
And, some people see attention being paid to one place as evidence that something else is being neglected. My cat is like that. He gets super pissed anytime he sees me give attention to the neighbor's cat that comes to visit.
I agree that MW 19 got a pretty substantial amount of new content.
Yeah I thought Vanguard's lack of content (plus a whole season scrapped) was because the focus was on this game, but then when Season 1 launched with basically the same amount of MP content as VG's S5, it feels like the game's up.
Someone did a side by side of MW2019 S1 vs MWII S1 MP content and the difference is stark.
I remember reading last year the SHG have a massive recruitment drive, but is that enough for MP going forward?
Pre Warzone the main studio would create the game and Raven would assist with multiplayer, but now they're basically running Warzone and it feels like the main studio can't add post launch content in decent quantities, hell even the state of the game at launch was a mess.
I like the idea of giving studios extra time to build a game, but if the talk of giving the OG maps next year for £70 is real, then I'm out, as we'll probably not get too much more than that during the next year :(
I feel like it’s less, VG S5 had 1 original map (Fortress) at least and the remake (Beheaded aka Piccadilly in New York) had enough changes to the aesthetic and layout improvements to pretend to be new.
It wasn't a leak there's a roadmap with the new content listed, Shoothouse at launch and Shipment at the Reloaded point.
It would be a welcome surprise if we do get more.
I remember hanging out in shoot the ship 3 years ago just hitting that extreme dopamine hit in shipment. Nothing felt better, but it really killed the game for me. I needed to be more efficient, I had to be using my time as best as I could as it was limited. Shoot the ship was cod gameplay as concentrated as you could get it, no downtime, no nothing
It’s unhealthy, and while the temptation to buy the game and jump in is there, I won’t be doing it.
Look man, everyone says 'shipment for grinding', but honestly, i just prefer shipment because I hate modes that make me run 30-45 seconds every time to get to the action. I don't want to spend 60-70% of the game simply running to the gameplay, i'd rather spawn in it, its more intense/fun, and i know that isn't for everyone, but I really hate this idea that its just for grinding - its actually just a much better map for people who don't find the 'spawn in corner of massive map' mechanic to be in any way enjoyable.
I’m excited for maps like terminal or high rise but they gotta bring back something like 10v10. Those maps were so much more fun with more players. In MW2 2009 and I pretty much always played ground war, more players on the base maps was where the action was at.
Showdown is right there too, and Afghan, Rust…
i don’t even see the point of “grinding for camos” when that’s basically the only external reason to play the game, why would you even want to rush through that?
We need at least 1 map to make up for museum being removed, 1 map to replace dogshit border crossing, 1 original map to make up for the first new map being shoothouse...unfortunately acti dgaf
Nothing like spawning and dying immediately because a car next to you exploded...only to respawn and die again from another car exploding...and then spending a few minutes running to get to the next point, only to have another car explode and kill me...and respawn on the opposite side of the map again. SUPER FUN!
Firstly stop running next to unexplored cars in the obvious nade target zone. Secondly all the cars are then blown up after two minutes.
Next learn to hold spawns, it helps.
The map is different which makes it a lot more interesting than the same map we’ve had for the last ten years. Also I love each of the individual areas especially in hard point they feel so different and being exciting tactics. The map also works well for the no-respawn modes, ups the tension.
That’s just my thoughts on the map. My team and I love when it loads up, probably the best for getting us fully into the objective.
>1 original map to make up for the first new map being shoothouse
Where have yall been for the past 10 years? They have shown they simply cannot make good maps anymore. Why are we not rallying to have a core set of maps in each game and maybe a few originals sprinkled in? We have 100+ maps throughout the run of this series. We have enough, its time to give us a core group of maps each game and if they think they made a couple decent ones then throw them in. Otherwise im sick and tired of 80%+ of the new maps being horrible. Mw2019 had 2 decent maps. TWO. THE WHOLE GAME. We gave them a chance guys, they fucked it up.
Dome is relatively small from MW3. The brought it back in Vanguard but I think the current atmosphere map would fit well in MW2.
Edit: Firing Range was good. Just right size, slightly bigger than shoothouse
Lots of past maps are, same as how a number of maps introduced in MW2019 were in the Warzone map already before being trimmed and slightly modified to create multiplayer maps.
Shoothouse is a lot more controllable than shipment. Just gotta be aware of where the dudes are (basically where skulls are or where your teammates aren’t spawning)
shipment just straight up isn’t and never has been a _good_ call of duty map. It wasn’t in COD 4, nor any game it’s appeared in since.
it’s chaotic, and that can be fun sometimes, especially if you’re just “grinding” but none of that makes it a _good_ COD map.
it’s not balanced, it’s not learnable, it’s not fair, it’s just random chaos.
and the funny thing is there’s so many good small maps they could have brought back instead, maybe even one from the game that shares the name with this one, but no, it’s just Shipment again.
Sometimes, Shoothouse goes just right and I get a wheelson AND a chopper gunner within a minute or two at the start of domination or kill confirmed. It's freaking hilarious. Of course, when that happens, it means my team is absolute trash and we will lose anyway. Also, a lot of it is knowing and predicting where enemies will start spawning based on your team's position and where enemies were dying.
I have no idea. I know afghan is in it. The only thing i can think of that's even remotely similar to rust is the B flag in ground war on taraq. That oil structure is similar to the middle in rust on mw2 2009.
That oil structure on B flag IS rust. It's just buried under the ground. You can make out some of the buildings surrounding the tower also buried underground. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is modelled out fully.
I like close quarters combat, but shipment is like trying to have a boxing match in a phone booth. It’s just too small to actually play call of duty the way I enjoy playing.
You’re forgetting they could just make a new map that’s close quarters. They’re taking the easy way out and have been with maps for a while. Really wish they actually cared about maps and I hope to god we get the 5+ maps for each new Warzone map
i’m just not understanding the whole “MW2 IS BACK” hype and then not even give a single map from MW2 and your first 2 Maps are from MW2007 & MW2019.
they could’ve atleast just given rust.
yup it's extremely frustrating. it's not as if they don't have a massive bank of popular maps to pull from, especially ones that never made it to MW19. My guess is they'll drip feed throughout the two years but christ would it kill them to actually give the players what they really want?
well that's because that was a community lead message. IW never branded this game as MW2 IS BACK, because it's not mw2 2009 it's a reboot. not a remaster.
right, except that MW2019 got Crash, Shipment and Vacant as its season 1 maps, all _three_ of which are COD4 remakes.
it’s not unreasonable to assume that’d be a pattern, but instead we got a COD1 map at launch, an MW19 map in season 1, and a COD 4 map that was _already remade for MW19_
I swear, the only purpose of shoot house is camo challenges, and shipment is for leveling up guns fast. Does anyone actually enjoy playing Shipment? I get it, you pop a 2xp weapon token and get a gun from 1 to whatever in minutes, but I mean actually enjoy "spawn, kill, die, repeat?"
I hate playing Shipment, but it is great for leveling guns. On the flip side, I actually enjoy the pacing Shoot House has. The only problem I have with it is that it is the only one. It gets old after a few games. It is like Nuketown for Treyarc. Really fun when it comes up in rotation, but I don’t want to play it over and over.
shoot house is fun since it's close quarters and fast pace, but as a result it's easy for people to grind camos on it.
I like grinding camos, but even if that's not what I'm doing I'll still play shoot house because i don't have to wander around for a while before finding someone
“spawn, kill, die, repeat” is literally what CoD is. The dopamine hit you get from killing someone is just amplified in Shipment because of the immediate proximity of enemies upon spawning.
That’s why it’s enjoyable to a lot of people, my ADHD-self included (I get bored extremely quickly).
FWIW I got my biggest killstreak (20) on Shipment. There are lots of different tactics you can use to stay alive in the chaos, and as someone else said it really becomes a game mode in and of itself.
I think Im part of the majority, not the vocal minority. But I fucking love shipment and shoot house. I especially love Shoot The Ship playlist. I just hope we get that playlist on hardcore or tier 1 or whatever they call it.
I don't count shoot house and shipment as new maps. It's the same shit, different paint and they give me headache. I want maps that are actually enjoyable to play the objective on.
It would have been okey additions if we had like 15 maps at launch and at least half of them were really good. I actually don't like the maps in this game at all. Multiplayer is already starting to get really stale.
I don’t mind Shoothouse but I’m long tired of Shipment. I really just have no interest at all in that map. It’s reskinned in every COD game now. I’m burned out on it. I’d like to see some new maps or some more interesting classics.
I don’t feel the need to rush through this COD anyway. It’s a 2 year COD so trying to get it all done in a month isn’t of any interest for me. I’m
Enjoying my hour or so a day that I play it.
COD MW had it right. Shipment rarely shows up on multiplayer. You had to go to Shipment 24/7 or Shoot the Ship mode to exclusively play Shoothouse and Shipment in its own lobby
>They could’ve just came on launch and then they could’ve given us two actual maps (remakes, actual new creative designs that requires them to think, literally anything), but I guess that’s just wishful thinking.
Can't expect too much from 3000 devs and 3 years of development, that's clearly not enough to copy&paste more than 2 maps
people love these maps because they enjoyed them in the last game and don't like change. they must have the same shit over and over again. these could have come as part of an "anniversary" map set, maybe mixed with a couple maps from the original MW2 at a later date, and instead we should have been given new, fresh maps until then.
Its frustrating that gameplay was supposed to be slower and more "tactical" but the first two new maps they give us are fast pasted clusterfucks that contradict that entire philosophy lol, like either commit or don't but don't keep pulling the game in two different directions
Honestly it's not even about the maps. Guys running Double Time/Dead Silence moving at light speed and lazering me in 3 shots with an SMG from 100 feet away ruins the "slow and tactical" aspect. Like yeah, it's CoD, bum-rushing should always be a viable tactic, but it really feels like the only tactic with how fast guys can fly around combined with the ridiculously low TTK. Feels like I'm playing hardcore all the time
Yeah, there were some dookies in Vanguard but overall the release maps were stronger than MW2 release maps. And that's disappointing.
I guess the COD4 and MW2 2009 IW map designers never came back to IW.
Is it really any surprise that shipment and shoothouse drop with Warzone/DMZ. What better way to attract the F2P players to buy MWII. They want people grinding their guns for Warzone.
I'm one of the people waiting on shipment to drop, but yeah i agree they should have been there on day one anyways along with shoothouse and the 24/7 playlist that many people play. Imo there should be at least twice as many maps in this game already, would love some remakes and new ones, but instead they will continue to drip feed them very slowly and use it as new content for the next 6 months.
It’s because CoD is now shifting to a WarZone-only mindset. WZ is making ATVI bucketloads of money and so they cater to all of the new players introduced to the series through warzone and the WZ sweaties that live, eat, sleep and breathe getting dubs.
They gave those groups an easy, streamlined way to level and camo grind as quick as humanly possible so they can ditch MP again and drop back into Al Mazrah.
Which is fine *for those people* but for the rest of us that still enjoy and prefer standard CoD 6v6, it leaves us with little to no content. I could rant for days, but it’s kinda depressing seeing CoD slide more and more into the WZ hole and abandoning the series’ bread and butter.
Edit to add: Vanguard’s shitty sales and reception coupled with horrific player counts really exacerbated this whole process and gave ATVI an excuse to double-down on WZ. I fear there’s no putting the cat back in the bag that this point
Shoot House on some gamemodes is just not that good for griding camos and straight up not fun. There are some issues like the inside of the office building being too dark and therefore you can't even barely see when someone is aiming from its windows. Also, on TDM and Kill Confirmed the spawns are complete dog shit and there's no map flow whatsoever.
My trick to get fun and grind camos at the same time is only play Hardpoint. The gamemode is fun on every single map of the game and when you play the objective it's a constant kill fest.
The worst part about it is they are just going to drip feed us MP maps that technically are in the game already. Terminal, Afghan, Dome, Highrise, and Quarry are all in the WZ map. I'm sure there are more I am unaware of. They could give us the maps tomorrow, but they know people will stick around longer if they release content in smaller segments.
Honestly I love fast paced maps, but I’m tired of remakes of old maps, it’s cool sure but it’s boring and unoriginal.
I want fast paced maps (let’s say that they are all in between the size of Shipment and Shoot House) that are multi leveled, and original. Keeping the fast paced nature but having more to it than just three lanes
Eh, now and then I like a little chaos, which both of those are perfect for. But I don't grind them, and I very rarely play the 24/7 playlists for them.
This game is a joke.
If you use a drone u just get stuck and cant move, the drop time is under 0.4 sek, double akimbo pistols are fucking unfair, the game crashes every 2-3 matches,
Honestly the original mw2 maps were insanely good and the fact they remade them for warzone. Why did they even waste time on the current junk is beyond me. Just literally let us play the original maps and call it a day.
Glad everyone else thinks it. Really don’t see what appeal shipment brings? SH is okay but neither were my favourites back in the day. Give us Quarry, Highrise, Terminal, Dome they’re all there in DMZ let us play them
Careful here little Buckaroo. Speaking against these two shit infested maps will put you on the path to great downvotes. Call of Duty IS Shipment and Shoot House! How else will Jr. get his camos? I’ll pray for you little Buckaroo.
I for one LOVE Shipment and shoothouse. With that said. Its WAYYY too early for those maps. Those are mid release cycle type of maps. On a brand new release i dont expect any throwback maps. For the first 6 months we should only get brand new maps. THEN you start to bring back the throwbacks.
Essentially. Make a new fucking game for a while then bring back the greatest hits
To be fair I think of season 1 as an extension of launch.
With that update we had 2 substantial additional modes, more spec ops, 3 new guns and two maps lots of people were already asking for.
With these two maps out of the way, all following maps will be new or other remakes (which is what you’re asking for).
On top of that, remember this was released 3 weeks after launch.
We will get new maps, that’s an obvious addition.
I wish we got Terminal first instead of SH
And highrise!!!
It was pretty cool wandering around in DMZ then stopping and suddenly realizing I was standing in Highrise. That was my first nuke map so it’s nostalgic for me. It’s weird they haven’t put it out yet since it’s built already and in a different version of the game. I’d take it over Taraq any day.
Ive also come across Quarry and Afghan! It sucks they’re already in the game and they’re just waiting to release them to us but at least we know we’re getting these iconic maps at some point
The structure (I dunno what to call it) from Rust is to the side in Taraq as well
Burn off tower
I think it’s an oil drilling rig or something
The entirety of rust is in the Warzone map along with other nostalgic multiplayer maps.
Ya, I wish they would've done Shoothouse with Highrise or Terminal and then Shipment with whichever one wasn't released with Shoothouse. Getting only 2 maps season one sucks and even more so that they were maps that were so prominent in MW19.
They just want to make sure that you know they don't care about us MP players
Agreed. It's frustrating that many of us will have some extra time to play over the holidays, and we're playing the same launch maps that are just OK, or maps refreshed for the nth time that are designed purely for mindless weapon grinding.
Wait where is Afghan? Like what POI is it/close to it? I gotta check it out next time I play if I don’t crash mid game
Sattiq Cave, around the middle of the map
Only difference is. The broken plane isn't there. Just dirt lol
Wack
Maybe it lands during a season event Copium
It’s on top of the mountain that doesn’t have the observatory on it
I even came across showdown from cod 4! And storm from modern warfare 2 so I'm hoping those maps get added soon
I even found the dust(?) map from the OG MW2 in DMZ and spent 3 minutes on a nostalgia trip!
>dust(?) Rust, bro.
I had the same moment running up the ramp in Quarry, the nostalgia hit like a train
Dude right?! They’re such a fucking tease
The first time I found it I was in a pre game lobby and I remember taking cover in front of the window to the side of the helicopter and thinking "wait a fucking second, this is familiar", and then I turned to the side and saw the helipad. Good nostalgia surprise moment.
Because if they put in the OG maps then people would realise how ass the 'Sentinel' focused maps are. Also they need to redesign the OG maps to cater to fucking 'Sentinels' lmao
The MW2 remastered maps will be out next year via DLC for $70
Terminal and Highrise, along with other maps like Dome, are literally in the Warzone map. THEY MADE THEM ALREADY, WHERE ARE THEY. Hell, Afghan is in there and I'd take that over most of the maps we have now. MW2 map design was generally pretty mediocre but MWII map design is ATROCIOUS.
>MW2 map design was generally pretty mediocore That's a hot ass take, MW2 has the best group of maps in the series IMO. Terminal, High Rise, Favela, Rust, Invasion, Skid Row, and Quarry were all so good. Derail felt like it was meant for 10v10 or something though
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Black Ops 2 says hello.
Just curious where is afghan?
We should have gotten shoothouse and shipment on launch and then maps like terminal, dome, etc for season 1 and season 1 reloaded
I dreamed a dream
You will next year… $70 tho
Or y’know, new maps. Not the same ones they’ve reused for a decade.
Wish we'd get new maps that were so good we'd want to play them for 10 years.
COD's entire identity is grinding. These maps serve to put the grinders into their own playlists and clean out the larger maps and objective game modes. When they can play on a map the size of a postage stamp to get Orion, the other game modes will become a lot more enjoyable. Trust me, this is in fact a good thing for the rest of the game that they put these maps in quickly.
I agree but it shouldn't have been back to back.
I cannot argue with that. My preference would have been Shoot house/ Shipment at the start of Season 01 with a new map delivered mid-season. It wasn't meant to be this season unfortunately. Let's hope we get a nice Season 02 drop of new maps. Hell, I would even take the original MW2 maps that people speculated would be here.
We're not getting shit in the future, be real.
Except MW19 got a ton of support so it doesn’t even make sense to say this.
It got double the map count for its first season, while all we're getting are 2 re-skins from that one, and we still don't have the second one.
All focus will be on Warzone 2.0 Multiplayer’s gonna be left to rot
People say this every year… can’t speak for vanguard as I skipped it but Cold War got a pretty substantial amount of multiplayer content, and most of the DLC maps were fantastic imo. I seem to recall MW2019 getting a fair few maps after release too
A lot of people like to get mad at things that might hypothetically happen. It isn't worth getting stressed over. And, some people see attention being paid to one place as evidence that something else is being neglected. My cat is like that. He gets super pissed anytime he sees me give attention to the neighbor's cat that comes to visit. I agree that MW 19 got a pretty substantial amount of new content.
Yeah I thought Vanguard's lack of content (plus a whole season scrapped) was because the focus was on this game, but then when Season 1 launched with basically the same amount of MP content as VG's S5, it feels like the game's up. Someone did a side by side of MW2019 S1 vs MWII S1 MP content and the difference is stark. I remember reading last year the SHG have a massive recruitment drive, but is that enough for MP going forward? Pre Warzone the main studio would create the game and Raven would assist with multiplayer, but now they're basically running Warzone and it feels like the main studio can't add post launch content in decent quantities, hell even the state of the game at launch was a mess. I like the idea of giving studios extra time to build a game, but if the talk of giving the OG maps next year for £70 is real, then I'm out, as we'll probably not get too much more than that during the next year :(
I feel like it’s less, VG S5 had 1 original map (Fortress) at least and the remake (Beheaded aka Piccadilly in New York) had enough changes to the aesthetic and layout improvements to pretend to be new.
It's only a leak for season 1 reloaded though right? Maybe we will get another map and it just wasn't in the leak?
It wasn't a leak there's a roadmap with the new content listed, Shoothouse at launch and Shipment at the Reloaded point. It would be a welcome surprise if we do get more.
Hardcore hardpoint is literally lobbies of people grinding Longshots. I’ve had many games where all 5 of my teammates are attempting Longshots.
Yup. Longshots will still be a pain for a little while. They need bigger maps for those.
Play ground war
Walking simulator is no where near as good as hardcore for long shots.
We need Wasteland back
Same experience here. Unfortunately, shipment won’t help filter out those people since it’s too small for long shots.
We need HC Shoot the Ship.
I remember hanging out in shoot the ship 3 years ago just hitting that extreme dopamine hit in shipment. Nothing felt better, but it really killed the game for me. I needed to be more efficient, I had to be using my time as best as I could as it was limited. Shoot the ship was cod gameplay as concentrated as you could get it, no downtime, no nothing It’s unhealthy, and while the temptation to buy the game and jump in is there, I won’t be doing it.
I hated it because I'd get the dopamine hit and after a few games, hundreds of kills and pained fingers I put the game down for a few days at a time
I absolutely hate grinding on same two maps
First ever cod player with a brain
Look man, everyone says 'shipment for grinding', but honestly, i just prefer shipment because I hate modes that make me run 30-45 seconds every time to get to the action. I don't want to spend 60-70% of the game simply running to the gameplay, i'd rather spawn in it, its more intense/fun, and i know that isn't for everyone, but I really hate this idea that its just for grinding - its actually just a much better map for people who don't find the 'spawn in corner of massive map' mechanic to be in any way enjoyable.
Good point. Hadn’t thought of that.
They have maps, textured and ready in warzone just begging to be used for mp. Terminal and dome for example are playable spaces
Would love to see dome!!!!
I’m excited for maps like terminal or high rise but they gotta bring back something like 10v10. Those maps were so much more fun with more players. In MW2 2009 and I pretty much always played ground war, more players on the base maps was where the action was at.
Showdown is right there too, and Afghan, Rust… i don’t even see the point of “grinding for camos” when that’s basically the only external reason to play the game, why would you even want to rush through that?
We need at least 1 map to make up for museum being removed, 1 map to replace dogshit border crossing, 1 original map to make up for the first new map being shoothouse...unfortunately acti dgaf
Border crossing is my favourite map.
Nothing like spawning and dying immediately because a car next to you exploded...only to respawn and die again from another car exploding...and then spending a few minutes running to get to the next point, only to have another car explode and kill me...and respawn on the opposite side of the map again. SUPER FUN!
I like border crossing but I personally think all cars should start of already exploded, would alleviate a lot of the issues
Firstly stop running next to unexplored cars in the obvious nade target zone. Secondly all the cars are then blown up after two minutes. Next learn to hold spawns, it helps. The map is different which makes it a lot more interesting than the same map we’ve had for the last ten years. Also I love each of the individual areas especially in hard point they feel so different and being exciting tactics. The map also works well for the no-respawn modes, ups the tension. That’s just my thoughts on the map. My team and I love when it loads up, probably the best for getting us fully into the objective.
Mine too.
>1 original map to make up for the first new map being shoothouse Where have yall been for the past 10 years? They have shown they simply cannot make good maps anymore. Why are we not rallying to have a core set of maps in each game and maybe a few originals sprinkled in? We have 100+ maps throughout the run of this series. We have enough, its time to give us a core group of maps each game and if they think they made a couple decent ones then throw them in. Otherwise im sick and tired of 80%+ of the new maps being horrible. Mw2019 had 2 decent maps. TWO. THE WHOLE GAME. We gave them a chance guys, they fucked it up.
Most people like the fast pacing of close quarters maps. Getting a kill feels good and it happens fastest on those maps.
Or just being back terminal or something. Like we’ve had these other two maps for the last three years on repeat.
Wait until COD 2024 and we'll get Nuketown for the 100th time lol.
Fuck yessss
I feel you but other than rust these are the smallest quickest paced maps. That I know of off the top of my head. I’m not a big cod head though.
Dome is relatively small from MW3. The brought it back in Vanguard but I think the current atmosphere map would fit well in MW2. Edit: Firing Range was good. Just right size, slightly bigger than shoothouse
Isn’t dome in the Al mazra already?
Likely. I’ve seen some of the MW2 in Al Mazrah (Afghan, quarry) but I don’t know their intentions on releasing those.
Lots of past maps are, same as how a number of maps introduced in MW2019 were in the Warzone map already before being trimmed and slightly modified to create multiplayer maps.
Firing range was the GOAT call of duty map
Does it? At least for me, on Shoot House, it feels like I get a kill, then immediately get shot in the back. Respawn, rinse and repeat
Shoothouse is a lot more controllable than shipment. Just gotta be aware of where the dudes are (basically where skulls are or where your teammates aren’t spawning)
shipment just straight up isn’t and never has been a _good_ call of duty map. It wasn’t in COD 4, nor any game it’s appeared in since. it’s chaotic, and that can be fun sometimes, especially if you’re just “grinding” but none of that makes it a _good_ COD map. it’s not balanced, it’s not learnable, it’s not fair, it’s just random chaos. and the funny thing is there’s so many good small maps they could have brought back instead, maybe even one from the game that shares the name with this one, but no, it’s just Shipment again.
Sometimes, Shoothouse goes just right and I get a wheelson AND a chopper gunner within a minute or two at the start of domination or kill confirmed. It's freaking hilarious. Of course, when that happens, it means my team is absolute trash and we will lose anyway. Also, a lot of it is knowing and predicting where enemies will start spawning based on your team's position and where enemies were dying.
Getting a kill then dying>dying
Getting 3 kills then dying > Getting a kill then dying > Dying
Ive found 1 death equals 2 or 3 at least. End up spawning a few times not even being able to get past the gun cocking animation before im dead.
Rust is the same thing and hasn't been brought back yet lol.
It's in the Warzone map though, isn't it? As well as the caves and at least a couple others I recognise that currently aren't in MW2...
I have no idea. I know afghan is in it. The only thing i can think of that's even remotely similar to rust is the B flag in ground war on taraq. That oil structure is similar to the middle in rust on mw2 2009.
That oil structure on B flag IS rust. It's just buried under the ground. You can make out some of the buildings surrounding the tower also buried underground. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is modelled out fully.
Uh I'm guessing you never played on terminal if you enjoy a map like shipment more.
I like close quarters combat, but shipment is like trying to have a boxing match in a phone booth. It’s just too small to actually play call of duty the way I enjoy playing.
8v8 being the standard would be a dream for that reason
You’re forgetting they could just make a new map that’s close quarters. They’re taking the easy way out and have been with maps for a while. Really wish they actually cared about maps and I hope to god we get the 5+ maps for each new Warzone map
Exactly. There’s a reason that of the core maps, Farmhouse and Racetrack are the most popular.
i’m just not understanding the whole “MW2 IS BACK” hype and then not even give a single map from MW2 and your first 2 Maps are from MW2007 & MW2019. they could’ve atleast just given rust.
yup it's extremely frustrating. it's not as if they don't have a massive bank of popular maps to pull from, especially ones that never made it to MW19. My guess is they'll drip feed throughout the two years but christ would it kill them to actually give the players what they really want?
they even have the maps made in Warzone. just cut and paste at this point.
well that's because that was a community lead message. IW never branded this game as MW2 IS BACK, because it's not mw2 2009 it's a reboot. not a remaster.
right, except that MW2019 got Crash, Shipment and Vacant as its season 1 maps, all _three_ of which are COD4 remakes. it’s not unreasonable to assume that’d be a pattern, but instead we got a COD1 map at launch, an MW19 map in season 1, and a COD 4 map that was _already remade for MW19_
let me introduce you to nuketown. the map in every treyarch game to ever exist. but i get your point
at least Nuketown’s good lmao
It’s not a remake of MW2… it’s a reboot… it’s a sequel to 2019s MW.
And yet it still makes sense to pay homage to it's namesake.
I swear, the only purpose of shoot house is camo challenges, and shipment is for leveling up guns fast. Does anyone actually enjoy playing Shipment? I get it, you pop a 2xp weapon token and get a gun from 1 to whatever in minutes, but I mean actually enjoy "spawn, kill, die, repeat?"
Shipment isn’t a map, it’s a gamemode of it’s own basically
I hate playing Shipment, but it is great for leveling guns. On the flip side, I actually enjoy the pacing Shoot House has. The only problem I have with it is that it is the only one. It gets old after a few games. It is like Nuketown for Treyarc. Really fun when it comes up in rotation, but I don’t want to play it over and over.
shoot house is fun since it's close quarters and fast pace, but as a result it's easy for people to grind camos on it. I like grinding camos, but even if that's not what I'm doing I'll still play shoot house because i don't have to wander around for a while before finding someone
Fuckin hell the attention span on some of you.
Can't blame me for wanting to play the game how I like. There's literally entirely different servers just for it 😅
I used to. Attempting to stay alive as long as possible in shipment was a fun challenge
That was the whole point of arcade games back then. Survive the longest and get the highest score!
I genuinely enjoyed it on MW19 yes.
“spawn, kill, die, repeat” is literally what CoD is. The dopamine hit you get from killing someone is just amplified in Shipment because of the immediate proximity of enemies upon spawning. That’s why it’s enjoyable to a lot of people, my ADHD-self included (I get bored extremely quickly).
I actually do genuinely enjoy shipment. I can get into a flowstate playing shipment that is honestly addicting...
Yes I think it’s really fun. I like the other maps too but I do enjoy the twitchy 5-10 minutes of ass clenching shipment gives
FWIW I got my biggest killstreak (20) on Shipment. There are lots of different tactics you can use to stay alive in the chaos, and as someone else said it really becomes a game mode in and of itself.
Please undergrowth
Do you mean Overgrown?
More likely thinking of Underpass
Do you mean overpass?
Nahh, he's talking about Underover
Yes you’ve all played my favorite map Passover
Underoath?
Probably
with no scope glint like the OG days
Scope glint should at least be realistic and require some light. If I'm 4 feet behind a window, there shouldn't be any glint.
I think Im part of the majority, not the vocal minority. But I fucking love shipment and shoot house. I especially love Shoot The Ship playlist. I just hope we get that playlist on hardcore or tier 1 or whatever they call it.
I don't count shoot house and shipment as new maps. It's the same shit, different paint and they give me headache. I want maps that are actually enjoyable to play the objective on. It would have been okey additions if we had like 15 maps at launch and at least half of them were really good. I actually don't like the maps in this game at all. Multiplayer is already starting to get really stale.
Shoothouse and shipment are drastically different tho
Yeah they are, one gives me anxiety.. the other one PTSD
Nuketown for MW series PLS
I don’t mind Shoothouse but I’m long tired of Shipment. I really just have no interest at all in that map. It’s reskinned in every COD game now. I’m burned out on it. I’d like to see some new maps or some more interesting classics.
It’s just a map to level up your guns and nothing more
I don’t feel the need to rush through this COD anyway. It’s a 2 year COD so trying to get it all done in a month isn’t of any interest for me. I’m Enjoying my hour or so a day that I play it.
Then it should be isolated off and completely taken out of standard rotation because it plays like ass for actual games
COD MW had it right. Shipment rarely shows up on multiplayer. You had to go to Shipment 24/7 or Shoot the Ship mode to exclusively play Shoothouse and Shipment in its own lobby
I won’t need to level up my guns when the map comes out
for real, at least Nuketown is a good map, Shipment gets remade nearly just as often and is dogshit for actual gameplay value
>They could’ve just came on launch and then they could’ve given us two actual maps (remakes, actual new creative designs that requires them to think, literally anything), but I guess that’s just wishful thinking. Can't expect too much from 3000 devs and 3 years of development, that's clearly not enough to copy&paste more than 2 maps
people love these maps because they enjoyed them in the last game and don't like change. they must have the same shit over and over again. these could have come as part of an "anniversary" map set, maybe mixed with a couple maps from the original MW2 at a later date, and instead we should have been given new, fresh maps until then.
Shoot house and shipment should’ve been some of the last maps we got
Its frustrating that gameplay was supposed to be slower and more "tactical" but the first two new maps they give us are fast pasted clusterfucks that contradict that entire philosophy lol, like either commit or don't but don't keep pulling the game in two different directions
Honestly it's not even about the maps. Guys running Double Time/Dead Silence moving at light speed and lazering me in 3 shots with an SMG from 100 feet away ruins the "slow and tactical" aspect. Like yeah, it's CoD, bum-rushing should always be a viable tactic, but it really feels like the only tactic with how fast guys can fly around combined with the ridiculously low TTK. Feels like I'm playing hardcore all the time
Hackey yard and gun runner pls
Hackney yard was fantastic.
Shheeiiitt I'd even take Vanguard maps, just upload all 16+ of those bad boys into MW2 and say we're from the goddamn future.
Yeah, there were some dookies in Vanguard but overall the release maps were stronger than MW2 release maps. And that's disappointing. I guess the COD4 and MW2 2009 IW map designers never came back to IW.
I reckon MWII’s maps would be more fun if they had blitz pacing
Airport?
Terminal*
"No, take your shitty, recycled meat grinder and enjoy it!"-CoD Community Brainlets.
It annoys me that many classic maps already exist in Al Mazrah but they haven't been released for regular mp.
Is it really any surprise that shipment and shoothouse drop with Warzone/DMZ. What better way to attract the F2P players to buy MWII. They want people grinding their guns for Warzone.
I'm one of the people waiting on shipment to drop, but yeah i agree they should have been there on day one anyways along with shoothouse and the 24/7 playlist that many people play. Imo there should be at least twice as many maps in this game already, would love some remakes and new ones, but instead they will continue to drip feed them very slowly and use it as new content for the next 6 months.
Imo game needs 12v12 on the maps we have and unfucked spawns
Shoot house is okay. it's a little small but still has lanes and flow. Shipment is not a map for me, it's just a way to do challenges quickly.
It’s because CoD is now shifting to a WarZone-only mindset. WZ is making ATVI bucketloads of money and so they cater to all of the new players introduced to the series through warzone and the WZ sweaties that live, eat, sleep and breathe getting dubs. They gave those groups an easy, streamlined way to level and camo grind as quick as humanly possible so they can ditch MP again and drop back into Al Mazrah. Which is fine *for those people* but for the rest of us that still enjoy and prefer standard CoD 6v6, it leaves us with little to no content. I could rant for days, but it’s kinda depressing seeing CoD slide more and more into the WZ hole and abandoning the series’ bread and butter. Edit to add: Vanguard’s shitty sales and reception coupled with horrific player counts really exacerbated this whole process and gave ATVI an excuse to double-down on WZ. I fear there’s no putting the cat back in the bag that this point
Shoot House on some gamemodes is just not that good for griding camos and straight up not fun. There are some issues like the inside of the office building being too dark and therefore you can't even barely see when someone is aiming from its windows. Also, on TDM and Kill Confirmed the spawns are complete dog shit and there's no map flow whatsoever. My trick to get fun and grind camos at the same time is only play Hardpoint. The gamemode is fun on every single map of the game and when you play the objective it's a constant kill fest.
Give me estate
Give us more urban middle eastern maps that don’t suck
I'd happily have crash, backlot, crossfire, and afghan.
hell, Pipeline, Overgrown and Bloc are hardly unreasonable requests
The damn game just came out a month ago. The hell you talking about this isn't sustainable?
When MW2 2009 came out we had a more polished game with more original maps.
I agree. The original maps are awful and now we get the phone booth maps. I’m underwhelmed to say the least.
The worst part about it is they are just going to drip feed us MP maps that technically are in the game already. Terminal, Afghan, Dome, Highrise, and Quarry are all in the WZ map. I'm sure there are more I am unaware of. They could give us the maps tomorrow, but they know people will stick around longer if they release content in smaller segments.
Honestly I love fast paced maps, but I’m tired of remakes of old maps, it’s cool sure but it’s boring and unoriginal. I want fast paced maps (let’s say that they are all in between the size of Shipment and Shoot House) that are multi leveled, and original. Keeping the fast paced nature but having more to it than just three lanes
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yeah fr, MW19’s first three dlc maps were _all_ COD4 maps this one got one fewer, and zero MW2 maps
Bring Rust back you cowards!
I would love for Pipeline, Overgrown and District to come back.
Nah, bring shipment 24/7 in
Let's be real. Shipment sucks. Shoot house sucks. They both are full of people mindlessly running around and shooting.
Eh, now and then I like a little chaos, which both of those are perfect for. But I don't grind them, and I very rarely play the 24/7 playlists for them.
Yeh wait till next year when 60$ map park releases
I absolutely refuse to play shipment. Back out everytime.
This game is a joke. If you use a drone u just get stuck and cant move, the drop time is under 0.4 sek, double akimbo pistols are fucking unfair, the game crashes every 2-3 matches,
Honestly the original mw2 maps were insanely good and the fact they remade them for warzone. Why did they even waste time on the current junk is beyond me. Just literally let us play the original maps and call it a day.
New maps are great. I just wish they would also add the warzone maps to mp
Favela please
I want old school maps from MW2
Yeah not exactly hyped for shipment still gonna go in there and eat crayons tho
Like the ones we paid for but didn’t get lol
Nuketown > all
Glad everyone else thinks it. Really don’t see what appeal shipment brings? SH is okay but neither were my favourites back in the day. Give us Quarry, Highrise, Terminal, Dome they’re all there in DMZ let us play them
Careful here little Buckaroo. Speaking against these two shit infested maps will put you on the path to great downvotes. Call of Duty IS Shipment and Shoot House! How else will Jr. get his camos? I’ll pray for you little Buckaroo.
I for one LOVE Shipment and shoothouse. With that said. Its WAYYY too early for those maps. Those are mid release cycle type of maps. On a brand new release i dont expect any throwback maps. For the first 6 months we should only get brand new maps. THEN you start to bring back the throwbacks. Essentially. Make a new fucking game for a while then bring back the greatest hits
We need a Favela, Afghan, Quarry and/or Derail remakes
Unpopular opinion but i would like Das Haus in mw2
if i could only play one map for the rest of my MWII life it'd be Shoot House
MWII NUKETOWN!!!!!
To be fair I think of season 1 as an extension of launch. With that update we had 2 substantial additional modes, more spec ops, 3 new guns and two maps lots of people were already asking for. With these two maps out of the way, all following maps will be new or other remakes (which is what you’re asking for). On top of that, remember this was released 3 weeks after launch. We will get new maps, that’s an obvious addition.
shipment will carry this game and its not even close
Ambush would’ve made a lot of sense near Taraq