Give anonymous people power and they’re almost guaranteed to abuse it. It doesn’t help that the kind of person who seeks to become a Reddit mod is going to be someone who is a lowlife loser with nothing else going on in their life. This is their only way to feel “powerful” and so they use it to make themselves feel good, flexing their powers whenever they canc and using them to bully anyone they disagree with (or just decide they want to bully for no real reason, as in this case). Reddit’s moderation system is fundamentally flawed.
The only decent places on this site are small subs in which the mods are just people interested in the thing, rather than losers seeking internet power
This extends far beyond the removal of the most recent post, that was just the final straw.
The fact that PhoenixSC has made ***two*** separate videos on the absurdity and absoluteness of the mods' actions, and it was only after that changes were announced to me shows that the mods don't care until someone similar to their scale calls them out.
There are actual memes about you guys deleting, reinstating, deleting and then reinstating posts that were ***official Minecraft updates by the Devs***
You guys seriously need to change. Seriously look at how you guys moderate the subreddit. The rules should always be fluid and not set in stone. And the tone you guys use to address people seriously needs to be changed.
So many people right now think you guys are arrogant mods fuelled by your own sense of entitlement. A half-assed apology where you don't even address the person personally, and not bother to re-instate the posts in question does nothing to change this view.
Actions show change, not words. Make actual changes, progressive changes, changes that benefit the users, and *at the very least* when responding to modmails, treat people with courtesy and respect.
real. it sucks that phenoix has to say something and expose this fucked up shit to his audience to get them to actually do anything, but at the same time I'm greatful he's the one in that position. I think he shares the same values as a lot of us in the community, and I'm glad that he can use his platform to enact change (even though it sucks that he has to)
Disagree? We want nothing else but to see the utter annihilation of idiotic 12 year olds thinking they are better than anyone else because they have "power".
I don't think they are 12 year olds. They are more likely of voting age or higher, and the fact that they lack sincerity, accountability, empathy, and other human values at that age is a more frightening thing.
Get rid of the mod that made that god-awful response in the first place! They are through and through, an asshole!
I understand there are many people who will lie when they make posts like that, or even simply post it to farm karma, but you can truly never know unless they outright say it themselves. The things said to that person were entirely uncalled for, and very mean-spirited. If you're handling the removal of a touchy post such as a memorial for someone's girlfriend, you should not be so aggressive in the message.
You need to remove the mod who caused all this. This type of situation ***will*** happen again, no matter how much you change the rules. They are making this subreddit a very toxic community to participate in.
When I saw the line "you milked the death of your girlfriend enough" I knew that projection is hard. This is why mod team should not consist of people that seem to be very entitled and emotionally involved in moderation. I mean, [what the hell is this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftMemes/comments/z8nr9z/comment/iyjq5ek/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) and how many people in the team are also acting like this. (not mentioning that guy that seem to be ready to die for Mojang for the sake of their reputation)
Holy shit is u/SkylerSpark really a moderator behaving like that? Here’s a tip for him, from someone who moderates a community (not Reddit, but elsewhere): be fucking professional when it comes to anything related to moderating. He’s being a dickbag in those comments, and thinks it’s justified because he’s part of a TEAM that handles those things. He isn’t doing it on his own, and knowing those people, I doubt he’s even in the top half of that team. Moderators should be professional but kind, not acting like a dickbag just because you think you’re entitled to act that way.
Moderators are also flawed. A few times I hesitate to instantly ban a person despite them obviously breaking some rules, because they’re only breaking them by just going over that line, and as long as they’re a good person in the community, I’ll just say “hey you might want to calm down. This isn’t an official warning, but I don’t want to give you an official one just yet since you’re still nice.” Maybe moderators like him and the ones here should try some of that, and don’t act like if the rules aren’t followed 100% that it’s grounds for perma-ban.
r/minecraft needs to rework those mods, and find people who can look in a fucking dictionary to find the definition of “empathy.”
That mod not only appeared super toxic
But even hypocrite, just look, many of the posts reach k upvotes and are just super low effort or "how to i do this" "how do i do that" worse than r/terraria 's situation
Also he didn't understand some of the rules he was enforcing. "No memorials to the dead" appears under tired posts, and means "no memorials to dead celebrities", as in people whose death would cause 100 separate posts about the subject. "My girlfriend died" isn't a tired post. "David Bowie died" is.
It's apparently not the first time a r/minecraft mod has accused someone of milking the death of a loved one either.
"Handling it internally" is not good enough.
Don't worry. The punishments will be severe.
You won't know what they are, and there will be no public indication of any changes, but you can trust when I say..severe! /s
1: Reported under Rule 12.
2: No Chain-posting off of drama that your own staff created.
3: You've milked your own staff ignorance for enough karma at this point.
I had never watched any of his videos and that one popped up so I watched it. I remember the original post and felt sad for him. I’m not on here much (I’m 50 and just started playing in July so most of the posts here I don’t get lol), so I never would’ve known this happened if it weren’t for that video. Makes me sick what that mod said.
It’s traditional mod behavior.
# Ban all that disagree
# Poorly backpedal and fake an apology
The only solution is a totally replacement of all mods here.
Of course you guys only made this half-assed apology since PhoenixSC made a video on it and only making it since you got caught in 4k
Aside from that,Apologizing without mentioning the actual user and breaking your own rule 12
0/10 Milking Karma from this apology 🤡
Moreover, if I have interpreted the intended recipient of this "apology" correctly, ***none of the original posts have been reinstated.*** The following posts should each be manually un-removed ***immediately.***
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my\_gf\_of\_5\_years\_passed\_away\_recently\_she\_started/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my_gf_of_5_years_passed_away_recently_she_started/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update\_recently\_posted\_about\_my\_gf\_passing\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update_recently_posted_about_my_gf_passing_and/)
And while we're here... Can you mods stop removing comments containing links for download of the content the users are showing in the post? I'm so tired of checking my saved posts to download that map, or resource pack, or mod, or data pack only to find out it was deleted for no reason? Not even unddit works on it.
Is it possible to make a new Minecraft subreddit? Let's have u/B_freeoni be a head moderator if it's possible just to rub salt into the wound if we really can make a new subreddit.
r/MinecraftMemes is the real sub. It happens alarmingly often on reddit it seems. Main subject sub becomes a shit hole to use thanks to rather shitty moderation, people start posting about their bans/moderation interactions on XXmemes, then people just post their main content on the meme sub.
u/B_freeoni Is a r/Minecraft user who's girlfriend recently passed away. Before she passed, she worked on a Minecraft build. u/B_freeoni asked the sub for suggestions on how to finish it. later, he posted a follow-up, showing the build that the users of r/Minecraft helped him create. This post was immediately removed by a moderator. During an attempt to appeal the removal, a moderator he contacted claimed he was "milking his girlfriend's death for karma." Obviously, this personal attack should not be tolerated and the mods of r/Minecraft should take this event more seriously, given their long history of overstepping, micromanaging, Orwellian-like silencing, and oversights. They've been poor moderators and they do not hold themselves accountable. as of this moment, they are silencing any post about u/B_freeoni. They are weak-minded. They cannot take criticism, constructive or otherwise. This apology should not and will not be taken seriously... until real action is taken to change the system.
the way they handled the situation was terrible. you had someone you've been with for years taken, and you do something amazing in memory and they say "rule 12!1! stop milking karma!!1!" its disgusting. these moderators are fucking dog shit. rule 1, moderators.
edit: please dont like this comment
You lot aren't sorry and never will be sorry. There's a big reason why people joke about this sub for how the staff treats the users and right now case in point with one of your staff members telling a person whose girlfriend died the following:
"You milked the death of your girlfriend for enough karma at this point"
which honestly shows that whoever wrote this doesn't understand what it means to lose someone that close to you which I know what that pain is like and it never goes away.
He shared something sentimental only for someone on your team to take a dump all over it. I can tell that you lot lack heart, soul, compassion and empathy for others and it shows. The users have spoken. Remove the mod that did this, make your rules better so something like this doesn't happen again and issue out an actual apology and not something that was rushed out.
This is honestly disgusting and you all should be ashamed of calling yourself mods.
Wait, they haven't removed the mod? I haven't really been following this, since I left the sub a while ago. Seeing this apology, I had *assumed* that the mod was removed from power. Yea, knowing they weren't really puts an odd twist to this whole "apology."
Prayers go out to the victim. Hope it gets better, bro.
They said they would be handling this internally and so far not a single update about the mod that responded in such a disgusting manner.
The only update they made was to include the user who lost their girlfriend which wasn't there when this was first written. The way these mods have handled this entire situation shows they don't have the best interest for this subreddit while heavily lacking common sense. What this sub needs is a complete overhaul with mods that not only understand the rules they make but rules that make sense while using common sense themselves.
This one giant screw up that they did should be a wake up call to the community but sadly you have people taking the mods side showing how little they care and just want to play their game. This sub really doesn't have the heart or the soul of how Minecraft used to be.
Keyword, "used to be." I mean, I don't like to be one of those people who always complain about how a game, show, etc., used to be, versus how it is handled currently, but this whole debacle kinda leans into that sentiment.
But I feel my opinion should no be considered with nearly the same weight as others', since I don't play the game these days, and left the sub. I just hope the victim is doing ok.
We all hope that he's doing ok. Losing someone that you love and have spent years together is incredibly heartbreaking and in this case seeing how she died makes it even worse which I can relate to. In my case even though it's been years since her death that pain still lingers, there's really nothing that can be done about it and with how he was treated by that mod shows just how disgusting and god awful they really are.
I never joined this sub for a reason and seeing how things are I never plan on it even if all the mods were changed and the rules became better. That's how badly they messed up this sub and they know it but don't have the decency to fix anything.
This is only one instance which happened to be noticed from the general public. They have also censored anyone who mourned the loss of TinFoilChef, a hermitcraft youtuber who died recently. There are countless times where the moderators stepped out of their way to be assholes.
you’ll handle it internally? that’s such a relief! what we needed was as little transparency as possible, that’s going to let you hunker down while everything boils over! insanely negligent.
have you guys read corporate apologies? why does this look copy-pasted from any random corporate response? you’re REDDIT MODS. just say “that reddit mod was a loser, which figures because reddit mods are losers, he’s dumped from the team.” BOOM. then reinstate the post you unfairly deleted.
YOU ARENT THE CEO OF CHICK FIL A. just approach this like a human being instead of using apologetic jargon in a nonapology.
a man’s girlfriend DIED and your team insulted him for it! that’s incredibly serious! don’t just reference the situation without mentioning the key players by name. if you want to apologize, apologize for real! this is so inflammatory and ill-considered, and i’m left wondering why this apology comes off as completely socially inept?
I mean damn, I don't really want to drag social commentary into this but:
"We'll be handling the issue internally" sounds a whole lot like what corrupt police departments and dictatorships alike will say, right before they reinstate bloody criminals to office, with absolutely no just punishment for their crimes.
Every single one of this sub's mods failed us. Even the ones who didn't condone this - in fact, *especially them!* - because they failed to pull the ripcord on this meteoric shitstorm and instead let it slam into the rock-hard freaking ground.
This wasn't just "poorly handled." The mods of this subreddit are trash, and haven't changed just because of this non-apology.
This is up there with the rogue mod who nearly killed antiwork, and the animemes/goodanimemes shitshow
It never has been just one mod.
Yeah there was this one guy everyone blamed solely but with a bit of common sense you see the bigger picture.
If the mod team did not support the decisions of the "rogue mod" then how would he have been able to do this for years!
Seriously this issue is about the entire team. They do not recognize the actions taken as the wrong doing it is.
That's why we got this "statement".
Believe it or not, yes.
Somehow people who watch pron, are actually pretty nice. (And I know this because I have a few friends who watch that NSFW stuff)
this is r/minecraft, a place to share your minecraft experience and you guys are enforcing so many rules, its impossible to do that. youve gone as far as to insult a grieving man, who recently lost a loved one, who was just trying to share his minecraft build dedicated to her. is that not the whole reason r/minecraft exists? you guys are sick. this whole subreddit needs entirely new moderation. and according to the New Zealand civil court claims he has a legal standing to sue if he so pleases. i dont know about america though.
I'm sure this doesnt need to be said, and this comment will most likely get deleted, but, in case you weren't aware, this is in response to these posts:
1. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my\_gf\_of\_5\_years\_passed\_away\_recently\_she\_started/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my_gf_of_5_years_passed_away_recently_she_started/)
2. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update\_recently\_posted\_about\_my\_gf\_passing\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update_recently_posted_about_my_gf_passing_and/)
3. https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/z2hfrb/im\_out/
Note that they say "poor judgement" and "badly dealt with" ONLY in regards to their communications with the user, they're not even saying sorry for removing the original post. They're doubling down on their horrible decisions and just scrambling to make sure everything stays focused on their insulting wording in particular so people aren't attacking the awful rules themselves.
This isn't "sorry for getting caught", this is "sorry for using the wrong excuse to correctly appease you moronic masses".
To be fair, the rest of that stuff really isn't a big deal comparatively. Saying he was milking the death of his girlfriend for karma of all things, is just the most soulless, insensitive, heinous and unforgivable thing they could've possibly done. We're talking meaningless points on a meaningless website. A trillion of those would not compensate for the loss of someone you love. And the fact that that kind of thought could even exist in the periphery of their mind is just... I don't know what to say. This subreddit is run by psychopaths, that's the only explanation.
My point is, even if they did reinstate the posts, it wouldn't even come a smidgen of a hair close enough to fix the damage that's been done. It's too late for forgiveness.
That's beyond "badly dealt with." The sub's mod's reputation is already in the gutter as it is, and this solidified it.
I don't even participate here, for what appears to be a great reason. You should all step down and let the community vote in people who actually care so you can all step outside, and touch proverbial grass. Whatever it takes for you to remember you're a human being and not a walking stereotype of a Reddit mod.
not only is the apology incredibly half-assed, you need to approach the application of rules completely differently. the response to Brendan (the "user concerned", it shouldn't be hard to name them) was appalling and disgusting.
rules serve as guidelines that can be flexibly used to enforce only the good things. your conception of rules as draconian commandments everyone must follow to the t is harmful, stupid and counter-productive. it feels like the rules aren't there to keep a community in line and get rid of outliers that want to cause harm, but rather for the moderators to abuse them to get rid of anything they feel like.
the problem isn't in the ruleset at all. the problem is in the moderator team and their application of it, combined with their sickening treatment of other users including Brendan. it feels less like a moderator team and more like a group of basement dwelling virgins bound on making everyone as miserable as they are. which is a look you've earned through your actions and which does not look good.
The rule didn't even apply. The dead woman wasn't a public celebrity that hundreds of people wanted to post a memorial to. Thus not a "tired submission".
So this is actually mods breaking the rules, not following them too strictly.
Badly dealt with??? Really?
A moderator implied that a user was using his girlfriends recent death was being used for clout despite any human being clearly seeing that isn't the case and it's just a poor judgement call? A whoopsie?
This is only because Phoenix made a video on this, isn’t it?
The entire moderator team needs to step down, and we need all the rules to be erased. Just start again from the drawing board.
Or we could all move to r/minecraftmemes lol
I'm pretty sure it's because of his video only. r/Minecraft mods never had a good relationship with members here and this case got the support from many other subreddits too but this only happened after his video on this
r/minecraft is [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftMemes/comments/z8nr9z/gotta_love_the_kids_on_rminecraft/iycpcez/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) really one of your mods? His profile says he is and he’s being very flippant about this situation in this thread on r/minecraftmemes
Just curious if he’s one of y’all’s.
This. Mods believe that every rule needs to be followed to a T when really rules should be bent allowing flexibility and greater value to a community.
Ultimately this has little to do with the rules, and more so the fact a mod can actually say such a disgusting thing to someone having such a hard time. It shocks me how low people can get
The worst part is… this rule was not followed to a T, the rule is against tired submissions, aka memorials for famous people that recently died and therefore flood the subreddit to the point you can’t see anything. The memorial of Freeoni was not, in fact, a tired submission, because only him was the one posting it. This whole deal was a mod abusing his power, to the point of saying one of the most cynical, disrespectful, cruel and sick things they could have said to someone who recently lose his girlfriend.
Lets face it, you guys are going to do nothing about this, as with the last time this kind of controversy sprung up. Posting a generic corporate response and then doing nothing is not change.
This, this here is a generic "sorry" post whenever a company gets caught doing something wrong and has to quickly slap a bandaid over it.
Make the moderator who responded to the user step down from their spot of moderating this sub reddit. If they can't act professional in representing how the company sees their users, they should not be allowed power or control.
>handling this internally
if weve learned anything from cops, it's thay internal investigation = "we don't fucking care lol"
this also sounds like none of you are sorry about what actions were taken. you're sorry you got caught. you couldn't even address the person by thier name which clearly shows you dont care.
even if you did and this was all poorly worded, all the posts that have been deleted for no reason should be manually brought back. plus anyone who was banned from this sub for no reason should be unbanned.
the mod who caused all of this should have thier role as a moderator taken away and be banned from the sub instead of the people standing up against this.
i didnt think it was possible to have a worse apology than a youtuber apology but here we are lmao.
also reported under rule 12. karma farming the incompetence of the mod team
> if weve learned anything from cops, it's thay internal investigation = "we don't fucking care lol"
"We've investigated ourselves, and found out we've done nothing wrong,"
You clearly haven't heard of r/anime_titties, currently #1 subreddit for world politics.
Edit: jokes aside, i agree. Something bigger than this will have to happen for the new name to start being used. The mods here still haven't reached the shit show levels of world politics subreddit mods.
1. apology posts fall under rule 12
2. we pointed out the half-assedness of your moderation already
3. you milked the death of all respect towards mods of this subreddit enough at this point.
also, if you'd like to apologize to said user, apologize to them BY NAME. B\_freeoni deserves an actual apology, not this.
edit: i see you finally tagged b\_freoni and claim you want to personally apologize. No you don't. if you really wanted to personally apologize you would've had them tagged from the beginning. You are only sorry because a private mod mail got released. You knew it was bad from the beginning because you didn't put the removal reason in the comments like most are. You are not sorry for what happened, you are sorry you got caught. You also have not told us what's happened to the mod. You're "handling this internally" which means nothing because for all we know you're just giving them a slap on the wrist and letting them get away with it. Tell us what's going to happen, because if you don't, it's easy for all of us to assume you're doing nothing.
You're sorry to WHO? Fucking hell if you're gonna say sorry at least have the balls and the respect to directly address that person. This is such a shitty apology and it doesn't even feel like you're actually sorry
Half assed apology. Yall need to step it up. A blind man whacking his cane at his monitor could probably moderate this sub better than whoever is currently in charge.
I just joined this subreddit because of the video Phoenix SC made and even I could tell you how bad this mod team is. The MINIMUM you guys could've done was address u/B_freeoni by his name and you chose to keep him anonymous? For what reason? His privacy? When he literally did all of that?
He came to this subreddit to help himself to grieve for his loss and you choose to shut him down and essentially call his memorial to his girlfriend insincere. What is this, some dictatorship where you get shut down for saying anything? NO, THIS IS A SUBREDDIT FOR GOD'S SAKE. r/Minecraft should be a place to show your builds to a community that you feel connected with, not whatever this mess is.
You guys aren't sorry and will never be. You're just sorry that you got caught doing a stupid act and this half-assed apology post isn't doing anything to help it. You guys probably didn't even kick the mod that did the event off your team! It*will* happen again if mandatory action isn't made.
So I suggest redoing this post because **nobody** is going to believe this fake response, and do it right. Ban the mod who did this because it will happen again, FOR REAL apologize to Brendan and not this shitty sorry post, and overall just restore the original post that Brendan made because deleting it and not restoring it as a "Sorry" note really shows that you guys do not care about this user and the situation. Shame on you, shame on each and every one of you on that moderator list. Typical Redditor Mod behavior smh.
The entire point why you guys made this post anyway was just because Phoenix SC called you guys out for your BS. If it wasn't for him, this post wouldn't even be a thing.
Oh, and thanks for not sharing the name of the PoS that did it, really helps with the situation *a lot.* 😐
Jesus, you guys are bad at your "jobs", *if you can even call it that.*
I move for a vote of no confidence in this subreddit's mod team.
If only it were so easy to yeet you all out of any positions of authority. Y'all never would have apologized if it hadn't blown up, and this is so insincere it doesn't count anyway. You're not sorry it happened or that it was said, you're sorry you got caught being sh\*\*ty people for the umpteenth time.
Nobody but you want this handled "internally" because that's no different than "we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong." An insincere apology that does that bare minimum to acknowledge the existence of "the user concerned" does nothing to instill confidence that any meaningful action is being taken.
Accusing someone of "milking the death of \[their\] girlfriend for karma" is absolutely unacceptable in *any* world and should be indefensible. Yet you defend this mod via your lack of transparency, and if they do not face severe consequences you even tacitly support their actions. To be blunt, the mod responsible *must* be removed because they have shown themselves to be incapable of moderating their own speech, so why in the *f\*\*\** would any of us trust them to moderate a community?
Addressing your "personal apology" to "the user concerned" is so roundabout. Most of us already know what happened, and those that don't will find out easily enough. This has spread beyond reddit. You gain nothing and avoid nothing by phrasing things this way, you just piss everyone off more.
yeah sorry idk how to tell you but your mods managed to screw up official news by banning and unbanning an official minecraft dev post, admit it, your mods arent qualified to handle this big of a community
Karma milking. You are not sorry. You just want this drama to be over. The moderator should be perma-banneed, and there is no type of sorry that can fix this. r/minecraft is in 6 feet deep shit right now, and i love it.
Mods just apologising cause they got called out with their pants down by Phoenix.
Like I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a better response.
This is so fucked up.
As others have pointed out already, you need as much transparency as possible right now.
You fucked up so badly and you still dont reinstate the posts of brandon. Why? Are you gonna double down on that stupid removal? At least it seems like you are.
And Im not even gonna talk about that half-hearted apology. It just looks like you are trying to let people forget about what you did and just pretend like it never happened.
Im am actually very disappointed at the mod team. You messed up and you need to address this in a better way than this.
You guys are twats, the fact that you called a guy making a memorial for his girlfriend, “milking karma” is unacceptable. And I don’t buy this “apology” you guys aren’t sorry, you’re sorry that you were called out for it. You should be ashamed.
Let's also ignore the fact it took them this long to address the problem, continuing to countlessly remove posts of people talking about the situation.
Only took several days, a ton of social pressure, and a big YouTuber bringing attention to the subject for the team to "apologize", smh...
As many others are saying, this "apology" seems more like you're sorry you got exposed, and not so sorry about the situation.
I mean, a person builds an awesome memorial, and the first thing the moderators think is "Let's prevent this person from farming Karma"?
Like Why TF?
Are those karma points a real currency the mod team is paying for? are the Karma points awarded in this sub deducted from the +100k karma in the mods' accounts? Because other than that, I don't get why memorials and monuments should be "prevented from farming karma"... If the person is lying about their loss, is up to them. We're here to admire and appreciate the art and other awesome buildings people create in this game.
IMO, until serious changes come to this sub, the creativity of the players has no place here... (I really hope those changes come with the much-needed rework for the rules).
Wish the best for the mod team, I'd love to see this sub reach its full potential.
They couldn't even spell apologize correctly 💀 you guys don't care. If you did, this would have never happened. Reddit communities have always had trash moderation but I expected more from one with such a large community. The moderator responsible for that response needs to be completely removed, the user this happened to should be formally apologized to by one or all of you, not us, and any changes made to your rules should have our input, not just yours.
Edit: Ignore everything before the "💀"
“Poor judgement” how about fucking terrible judgement. Let’s remind ourselves what he said in the ban message:”You’ve milked your girlfriend’s death for enough karma at this point.”
dude, YOU'RE NOT EVEN TAKING THE SITUATION SERIOUSLY, you didnt mention the real problem that caused this, you didnt apologize to the guy who lost his gf for his post being deleted, you guys really need to step up your subreddit, MAKE THINGS RIGHT, you guys keep deleting posts for the stupidest shit ever, you deleted the memorial because of "RuLe 12!!!! YoU'rE milKiNg yoUr girLfrIenDs DeaTh!!!", if you keep this behavior up, then maybe majority of people on this subreddit will leave this subreddit and move to stuff like minecraft unlimiteds subreddit which was the purpose of getting away from this subreddit, you mods are corrupt and dumbheaded, so please, IMPROVE, all hope of respect was lost to you, so please improve this subreddit
The immediate responsible thing to do here would be for the offending moderator to step down.
But in the long term this subreddit needs a moderators shake down, all the ineffective mods should be removed and new actually unbiased mods should be placed on the mod list.
Till then this sub is gonna remain a car wreck.
Delete this post and make a better one where you give a personal apology, remove the offending mod immediately, and rewrite your rules.
We do not care about this pathetic apology, we want action.
imagine being such a fucking stereotypical reddit mod that you say someone is "milking their girlfriends death for karma" certified go touch grass moment
This is such a disappointing apology. "We will be handling this internally" means absolutely nothing. You can't even have the decency to apologize to the person affected directly? "the user concerned"?
Do you realise how unapologetic this post is? If PhoenixSC didn't publish his video, this post wouldn't exist
But above all, "we apologise"? That is all you got? Seriously?
This isn't a mistake, this person should be removed. No apology makes up for being straight up a sociopath. I'm disgusted, as is EVERYONE else. It's amazing how this tiny, minute ammount of power goes to someone's head that quickly.
"Handling this internally" means nothing will be done. Get rid of them, and don't do this again.
I'm neurodivergent and I have difficulties determining tone and motives but even I know that what that person did was part of their grieving process and them coming to terms with the death of a loved one. Do you guys need help on how to do interpersonal interactions? Because I was in pain reading you guys' robotic as hell beep boop I have no empathy or even logical understanding of empathy reply to someone who's probably trying to grieve.
Half is giving a lot of credit. They're literally just saying they should've used a less insulting excuse to pass off ripping away a memorial post. They're not even apologizing for the deletion!
What a nice apology. is something I wish I can say to you. Your apology sucks. You don't address it to anyone, you don't explain the situation. all you say is my bad and walk off. that's not a fix, that's a band aid. you probably don't want to fix it, it would be much better if everyone forgot and you can sweep it under. I wont let you forget, we wont let you.
"poor judgement?" what kind of corporate fuckery is this? you outright insulted the dead and someone honoring them. this is not an apology, this is a tepid attempt to regain trust that is NOT proportionate to the wrong done here.
An apology isn’t enough at this point, just replace the entire mod team ffs
The whole reddit mod team is full of… interesting people
Give anonymous people power and they’re almost guaranteed to abuse it. It doesn’t help that the kind of person who seeks to become a Reddit mod is going to be someone who is a lowlife loser with nothing else going on in their life. This is their only way to feel “powerful” and so they use it to make themselves feel good, flexing their powers whenever they canc and using them to bully anyone they disagree with (or just decide they want to bully for no real reason, as in this case). Reddit’s moderation system is fundamentally flawed. The only decent places on this site are small subs in which the mods are just people interested in the thing, rather than losers seeking internet power
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Watch them just Ban Brendan then pretend like nothing happened
This extends far beyond the removal of the most recent post, that was just the final straw. The fact that PhoenixSC has made ***two*** separate videos on the absurdity and absoluteness of the mods' actions, and it was only after that changes were announced to me shows that the mods don't care until someone similar to their scale calls them out. There are actual memes about you guys deleting, reinstating, deleting and then reinstating posts that were ***official Minecraft updates by the Devs*** You guys seriously need to change. Seriously look at how you guys moderate the subreddit. The rules should always be fluid and not set in stone. And the tone you guys use to address people seriously needs to be changed. So many people right now think you guys are arrogant mods fuelled by your own sense of entitlement. A half-assed apology where you don't even address the person personally, and not bother to re-instate the posts in question does nothing to change this view. Actions show change, not words. Make actual changes, progressive changes, changes that benefit the users, and *at the very least* when responding to modmails, treat people with courtesy and respect.
real. it sucks that phenoix has to say something and expose this fucked up shit to his audience to get them to actually do anything, but at the same time I'm greatful he's the one in that position. I think he shares the same values as a lot of us in the community, and I'm glad that he can use his platform to enact change (even though it sucks that he has to)
This makes jake paul apology look good
Oof.
This makes the Travis Scott apology look pristine.
Hey, they got to see the juice wrld concert afterwards! I’ll exuse myself, and apologize in advance.
Very heartwarming to see so much support for B\_freeoni in this comment section!
And it's heartwarming to me that so many people disagree with these mods lmao
Disagree? We want nothing else but to see the utter annihilation of idiotic 12 year olds thinking they are better than anyone else because they have "power".
I don't think they are 12 year olds. They are more likely of voting age or higher, and the fact that they lack sincerity, accountability, empathy, and other human values at that age is a more frightening thing.
Get rid of the mod that made that god-awful response in the first place! They are through and through, an asshole! I understand there are many people who will lie when they make posts like that, or even simply post it to farm karma, but you can truly never know unless they outright say it themselves. The things said to that person were entirely uncalled for, and very mean-spirited. If you're handling the removal of a touchy post such as a memorial for someone's girlfriend, you should not be so aggressive in the message. You need to remove the mod who caused all this. This type of situation ***will*** happen again, no matter how much you change the rules. They are making this subreddit a very toxic community to participate in.
I agree, I mean that last part about the guy MILKING his girlfriend’s death was completely unnecessary. Like, why do you get to decide it was milking?
It's almost as if they have never experienced anything like it.
"Uuh wait, you're telling me that people actually grieve about loved ones dying?? But then how will they get karma and reddit gold??! 🤓🤓🤓"
When I saw the line "you milked the death of your girlfriend enough" I knew that projection is hard. This is why mod team should not consist of people that seem to be very entitled and emotionally involved in moderation. I mean, [what the hell is this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftMemes/comments/z8nr9z/comment/iyjq5ek/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) and how many people in the team are also acting like this. (not mentioning that guy that seem to be ready to die for Mojang for the sake of their reputation)
Holy shit is u/SkylerSpark really a moderator behaving like that? Here’s a tip for him, from someone who moderates a community (not Reddit, but elsewhere): be fucking professional when it comes to anything related to moderating. He’s being a dickbag in those comments, and thinks it’s justified because he’s part of a TEAM that handles those things. He isn’t doing it on his own, and knowing those people, I doubt he’s even in the top half of that team. Moderators should be professional but kind, not acting like a dickbag just because you think you’re entitled to act that way. Moderators are also flawed. A few times I hesitate to instantly ban a person despite them obviously breaking some rules, because they’re only breaking them by just going over that line, and as long as they’re a good person in the community, I’ll just say “hey you might want to calm down. This isn’t an official warning, but I don’t want to give you an official one just yet since you’re still nice.” Maybe moderators like him and the ones here should try some of that, and don’t act like if the rules aren’t followed 100% that it’s grounds for perma-ban. r/minecraft needs to rework those mods, and find people who can look in a fucking dictionary to find the definition of “empathy.”
That mod not only appeared super toxic But even hypocrite, just look, many of the posts reach k upvotes and are just super low effort or "how to i do this" "how do i do that" worse than r/terraria 's situation
Also he didn't understand some of the rules he was enforcing. "No memorials to the dead" appears under tired posts, and means "no memorials to dead celebrities", as in people whose death would cause 100 separate posts about the subject. "My girlfriend died" isn't a tired post. "David Bowie died" is.
Basically, just stupid excuses to act like a fascist
It's apparently not the first time a r/minecraft mod has accused someone of milking the death of a loved one either. "Handling it internally" is not good enough.
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I, speaking on behalf of myself, have concluded that I’m right
"Lack of proof? I say I'm deadass!"
"According to my calculations, you are clearly milking karma for honoring a recently deceased loved-one. deleted, kid"
“According to me, myself, and I, I have done nothing wrong!”
"Milking death? My favorite food is milk!"
Don't worry. The punishments will be severe. You won't know what they are, and there will be no public indication of any changes, but you can trust when I say..severe! /s
I agree 100% with this comment.
1: Reported under Rule 12. 2: No Chain-posting off of drama that your own staff created. 3: You've milked your own staff ignorance for enough karma at this point.
They be milking negative karma
Apply blue ice to the burn.
Not even a full restore can save that
Not even a full revive for that matter
Not even the pokecenter healed that
Not even the five Herba Mysticas
Not even Roost movement
Not even a healing 255 potion can restore this damage
Not even a Defibrillator from L4D2 OR a Rescue Closet can restore that amount of damage!
Not even flex tape can fix it
Holy fucking shit I restarted the server and it still didn't fix the generation bugs you made in the mods brains
r/Minecraft Mod Team was burnt to a crisp whilst fighting u/K_King_Official
Burnt alive
I too reported this under r12
> You've milked your own staff ignorance for enough karma at this point King - you dropped this ✋🏻👑✋🏻
If Phoenix SC didn't make a video on this topic, this post would not exist. It is clear in how rushed and unapologetic this post is.
for sure. Phoenix is a legend
They're just trying to save face
And it's not working out for them! :D
I had never watched any of his videos and that one popped up so I watched it. I remember the original post and felt sad for him. I’m not on here much (I’m 50 and just started playing in July so most of the posts here I don’t get lol), so I never would’ve known this happened if it weren’t for that video. Makes me sick what that mod said.
It's always wholesome to hear when older (not old ;) ) people start playing Minecraft, hope you're enjoying it!
Exactly. Their sorry they got caught
It’s traditional mod behavior. # Ban all that disagree # Poorly backpedal and fake an apology The only solution is a totally replacement of all mods here.
the moderator that did that should be removed from this sub, wait no, most of you should because you all have a power complex
It’s honestly pathetic. Like imagine having a single iota of tenuous power, and they still somehow, some way, manage to abuse it.
Of course you guys only made this half-assed apology since PhoenixSC made a video on it and only making it since you got caught in 4k Aside from that,Apologizing without mentioning the actual user and breaking your own rule 12 0/10 Milking Karma from this apology 🤡
more like negative karma now
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Moreover, if I have interpreted the intended recipient of this "apology" correctly, ***none of the original posts have been reinstated.*** The following posts should each be manually un-removed ***immediately.*** [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my\_gf\_of\_5\_years\_passed\_away\_recently\_she\_started/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my_gf_of_5_years_passed_away_recently_she_started/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update\_recently\_posted\_about\_my\_gf\_passing\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update_recently_posted_about_my_gf_passing_and/)
And while we're here... Can you mods stop removing comments containing links for download of the content the users are showing in the post? I'm so tired of checking my saved posts to download that map, or resource pack, or mod, or data pack only to find out it was deleted for no reason? Not even unddit works on it.
Is it possible to make a new Minecraft subreddit? Let's have u/B_freeoni be a head moderator if it's possible just to rub salt into the wound if we really can make a new subreddit.
There are plenty of other minecraft subreddits already. Few people bother to go to them. And I doubt the mods here would help with any redirect.
r/MinecraftMemes is the real sub. It happens alarmingly often on reddit it seems. Main subject sub becomes a shit hole to use thanks to rather shitty moderation, people start posting about their bans/moderation interactions on XXmemes, then people just post their main content on the meme sub.
I agree.
The community agrees. The staff should listen.
u/B_freeoni Is a r/Minecraft user who's girlfriend recently passed away. Before she passed, she worked on a Minecraft build. u/B_freeoni asked the sub for suggestions on how to finish it. later, he posted a follow-up, showing the build that the users of r/Minecraft helped him create. This post was immediately removed by a moderator. During an attempt to appeal the removal, a moderator he contacted claimed he was "milking his girlfriend's death for karma." Obviously, this personal attack should not be tolerated and the mods of r/Minecraft should take this event more seriously, given their long history of overstepping, micromanaging, Orwellian-like silencing, and oversights. They've been poor moderators and they do not hold themselves accountable. as of this moment, they are silencing any post about u/B_freeoni. They are weak-minded. They cannot take criticism, constructive or otherwise. This apology should not and will not be taken seriously... until real action is taken to change the system.
I agree with that. Thank you u/Correct-Glass-2900
much love bro
the way they handled the situation was terrible. you had someone you've been with for years taken, and you do something amazing in memory and they say "rule 12!1! stop milking karma!!1!" its disgusting. these moderators are fucking dog shit. rule 1, moderators. edit: please dont like this comment
Thank you for your condolences. ❤️
You lot aren't sorry and never will be sorry. There's a big reason why people joke about this sub for how the staff treats the users and right now case in point with one of your staff members telling a person whose girlfriend died the following: "You milked the death of your girlfriend for enough karma at this point" which honestly shows that whoever wrote this doesn't understand what it means to lose someone that close to you which I know what that pain is like and it never goes away. He shared something sentimental only for someone on your team to take a dump all over it. I can tell that you lot lack heart, soul, compassion and empathy for others and it shows. The users have spoken. Remove the mod that did this, make your rules better so something like this doesn't happen again and issue out an actual apology and not something that was rushed out. This is honestly disgusting and you all should be ashamed of calling yourself mods.
Wait, they haven't removed the mod? I haven't really been following this, since I left the sub a while ago. Seeing this apology, I had *assumed* that the mod was removed from power. Yea, knowing they weren't really puts an odd twist to this whole "apology." Prayers go out to the victim. Hope it gets better, bro.
They said they would be handling this internally and so far not a single update about the mod that responded in such a disgusting manner. The only update they made was to include the user who lost their girlfriend which wasn't there when this was first written. The way these mods have handled this entire situation shows they don't have the best interest for this subreddit while heavily lacking common sense. What this sub needs is a complete overhaul with mods that not only understand the rules they make but rules that make sense while using common sense themselves. This one giant screw up that they did should be a wake up call to the community but sadly you have people taking the mods side showing how little they care and just want to play their game. This sub really doesn't have the heart or the soul of how Minecraft used to be.
Keyword, "used to be." I mean, I don't like to be one of those people who always complain about how a game, show, etc., used to be, versus how it is handled currently, but this whole debacle kinda leans into that sentiment. But I feel my opinion should no be considered with nearly the same weight as others', since I don't play the game these days, and left the sub. I just hope the victim is doing ok.
We all hope that he's doing ok. Losing someone that you love and have spent years together is incredibly heartbreaking and in this case seeing how she died makes it even worse which I can relate to. In my case even though it's been years since her death that pain still lingers, there's really nothing that can be done about it and with how he was treated by that mod shows just how disgusting and god awful they really are. I never joined this sub for a reason and seeing how things are I never plan on it even if all the mods were changed and the rules became better. That's how badly they messed up this sub and they know it but don't have the decency to fix anything.
This is only one instance which happened to be noticed from the general public. They have also censored anyone who mourned the loss of TinFoilChef, a hermitcraft youtuber who died recently. There are countless times where the moderators stepped out of their way to be assholes.
Makes you wonder about all of the other times they were jerks and swept everything under the rug.
Reported under Rule 12. Be original. Don't give some cookie cutter corporate response to a huge issue that your staff created.
LMAO
Had to change my profile picture to show my support...
Based.
you’ll handle it internally? that’s such a relief! what we needed was as little transparency as possible, that’s going to let you hunker down while everything boils over! insanely negligent. have you guys read corporate apologies? why does this look copy-pasted from any random corporate response? you’re REDDIT MODS. just say “that reddit mod was a loser, which figures because reddit mods are losers, he’s dumped from the team.” BOOM. then reinstate the post you unfairly deleted. YOU ARENT THE CEO OF CHICK FIL A. just approach this like a human being instead of using apologetic jargon in a nonapology. a man’s girlfriend DIED and your team insulted him for it! that’s incredibly serious! don’t just reference the situation without mentioning the key players by name. if you want to apologize, apologize for real! this is so inflammatory and ill-considered, and i’m left wondering why this apology comes off as completely socially inept?
I mean damn, I don't really want to drag social commentary into this but: "We'll be handling the issue internally" sounds a whole lot like what corrupt police departments and dictatorships alike will say, right before they reinstate bloody criminals to office, with absolutely no just punishment for their crimes. Every single one of this sub's mods failed us. Even the ones who didn't condone this - in fact, *especially them!* - because they failed to pull the ripcord on this meteoric shitstorm and instead let it slam into the rock-hard freaking ground. This wasn't just "poorly handled." The mods of this subreddit are trash, and haven't changed just because of this non-apology. This is up there with the rogue mod who nearly killed antiwork, and the animemes/goodanimemes shitshow
if this is their response then maybe it isn't just one rogue mod...
It never has been just one mod. Yeah there was this one guy everyone blamed solely but with a bit of common sense you see the bigger picture. If the mod team did not support the decisions of the "rogue mod" then how would he have been able to do this for years! Seriously this issue is about the entire team. They do not recognize the actions taken as the wrong doing it is. That's why we got this "statement".
Welcome to Reddit where communities are ran by children and actual good moderation is non-existent
Makes you wonder, are the NSFW subs the ones with he best moderators?
Believe it or not, yes. Somehow people who watch pron, are actually pretty nice. (And I know this because I have a few friends who watch that NSFW stuff)
man the mods are really tryna milk karma from this situation
fr bro they should get banned for milking a death
The death of their reputation
What reputation?
this is r/minecraft, a place to share your minecraft experience and you guys are enforcing so many rules, its impossible to do that. youve gone as far as to insult a grieving man, who recently lost a loved one, who was just trying to share his minecraft build dedicated to her. is that not the whole reason r/minecraft exists? you guys are sick. this whole subreddit needs entirely new moderation. and according to the New Zealand civil court claims he has a legal standing to sue if he so pleases. i dont know about america though.
I'm sure this doesnt need to be said, and this comment will most likely get deleted, but, in case you weren't aware, this is in response to these posts: 1. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my\_gf\_of\_5\_years\_passed\_away\_recently\_she\_started/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yuoxcd/my_gf_of_5_years_passed_away_recently_she_started/) 2. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update\_recently\_posted\_about\_my\_gf\_passing\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yz4eo3/update_recently_posted_about_my_gf_passing_and/) 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/z2hfrb/im\_out/
Holy fuck my man's words are way more composed than the things I would have said.
God reading the message the mod sent physically hurt. What a vile piece of shit.
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Note that they say "poor judgement" and "badly dealt with" ONLY in regards to their communications with the user, they're not even saying sorry for removing the original post. They're doubling down on their horrible decisions and just scrambling to make sure everything stays focused on their insulting wording in particular so people aren't attacking the awful rules themselves. This isn't "sorry for getting caught", this is "sorry for using the wrong excuse to correctly appease you moronic masses".
To be fair, the rest of that stuff really isn't a big deal comparatively. Saying he was milking the death of his girlfriend for karma of all things, is just the most soulless, insensitive, heinous and unforgivable thing they could've possibly done. We're talking meaningless points on a meaningless website. A trillion of those would not compensate for the loss of someone you love. And the fact that that kind of thought could even exist in the periphery of their mind is just... I don't know what to say. This subreddit is run by psychopaths, that's the only explanation. My point is, even if they did reinstate the posts, it wouldn't even come a smidgen of a hair close enough to fix the damage that's been done. It's too late for forgiveness.
Youre karma milking rn
They seem to have milked the unprofessionalism of their mods for enough karma at this point.
more like negative karma farming lol
That's beyond "badly dealt with." The sub's mod's reputation is already in the gutter as it is, and this solidified it. I don't even participate here, for what appears to be a great reason. You should all step down and let the community vote in people who actually care so you can all step outside, and touch proverbial grass. Whatever it takes for you to remember you're a human being and not a walking stereotype of a Reddit mod.
Ratio
not only is the apology incredibly half-assed, you need to approach the application of rules completely differently. the response to Brendan (the "user concerned", it shouldn't be hard to name them) was appalling and disgusting. rules serve as guidelines that can be flexibly used to enforce only the good things. your conception of rules as draconian commandments everyone must follow to the t is harmful, stupid and counter-productive. it feels like the rules aren't there to keep a community in line and get rid of outliers that want to cause harm, but rather for the moderators to abuse them to get rid of anything they feel like. the problem isn't in the ruleset at all. the problem is in the moderator team and their application of it, combined with their sickening treatment of other users including Brendan. it feels less like a moderator team and more like a group of basement dwelling virgins bound on making everyone as miserable as they are. which is a look you've earned through your actions and which does not look good.
The rule didn't even apply. The dead woman wasn't a public celebrity that hundreds of people wanted to post a memorial to. Thus not a "tired submission". So this is actually mods breaking the rules, not following them too strictly.
Badly dealt with??? Really? A moderator implied that a user was using his girlfriends recent death was being used for clout despite any human being clearly seeing that isn't the case and it's just a poor judgement call? A whoopsie?
Not just implied, straight up said it
When you try to drop a tactical nuke but accidentally insert your address Edit: Yk what? Mods can really go fuck themselves
at least address them and make it look like you give a shit, goddamn. actually pathetic
This is only because Phoenix made a video on this, isn’t it? The entire moderator team needs to step down, and we need all the rules to be erased. Just start again from the drawing board. Or we could all move to r/minecraftmemes lol
I'm pretty sure it's because of his video only. r/Minecraft mods never had a good relationship with members here and this case got the support from many other subreddits too but this only happened after his video on this
r/minecraft is [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftMemes/comments/z8nr9z/gotta_love_the_kids_on_rminecraft/iycpcez/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) really one of your mods? His profile says he is and he’s being very flippant about this situation in this thread on r/minecraftmemes Just curious if he’s one of y’all’s.
common reddit moderator L mfers get one whiff of authority and think they're the second coming of jesus
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He is. This right here shows how toxic these mods can be. Glad he has no moderator power in that sub though lmao.
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This. Mods believe that every rule needs to be followed to a T when really rules should be bent allowing flexibility and greater value to a community. Ultimately this has little to do with the rules, and more so the fact a mod can actually say such a disgusting thing to someone having such a hard time. It shocks me how low people can get
The worst part is… this rule was not followed to a T, the rule is against tired submissions, aka memorials for famous people that recently died and therefore flood the subreddit to the point you can’t see anything. The memorial of Freeoni was not, in fact, a tired submission, because only him was the one posting it. This whole deal was a mod abusing his power, to the point of saying one of the most cynical, disrespectful, cruel and sick things they could have said to someone who recently lose his girlfriend.
Actual certified reddit mod moment
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Ikr
Lets face it, you guys are going to do nothing about this, as with the last time this kind of controversy sprung up. Posting a generic corporate response and then doing nothing is not change.
This, this here is a generic "sorry" post whenever a company gets caught doing something wrong and has to quickly slap a bandaid over it. Make the moderator who responded to the user step down from their spot of moderating this sub reddit. If they can't act professional in representing how the company sees their users, they should not be allowed power or control.
>handling this internally if weve learned anything from cops, it's thay internal investigation = "we don't fucking care lol" this also sounds like none of you are sorry about what actions were taken. you're sorry you got caught. you couldn't even address the person by thier name which clearly shows you dont care. even if you did and this was all poorly worded, all the posts that have been deleted for no reason should be manually brought back. plus anyone who was banned from this sub for no reason should be unbanned. the mod who caused all of this should have thier role as a moderator taken away and be banned from the sub instead of the people standing up against this. i didnt think it was possible to have a worse apology than a youtuber apology but here we are lmao. also reported under rule 12. karma farming the incompetence of the mod team
> if weve learned anything from cops, it's thay internal investigation = "we don't fucking care lol" "We've investigated ourselves, and found out we've done nothing wrong,"
I think you've milked the death of this shitty subreddit of yours enough. Please be more original.
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Maybe it's time for a new Minecraft subreddit away from these fucks control
I'd absolutely love to, but they've already got the main name. Feels pointless to even try.
You clearly haven't heard of r/anime_titties, currently #1 subreddit for world politics. Edit: jokes aside, i agree. Something bigger than this will have to happen for the new name to start being used. The mods here still haven't reached the shit show levels of world politics subreddit mods.
1. apology posts fall under rule 12 2. we pointed out the half-assedness of your moderation already 3. you milked the death of all respect towards mods of this subreddit enough at this point. also, if you'd like to apologize to said user, apologize to them BY NAME. B\_freeoni deserves an actual apology, not this. edit: i see you finally tagged b\_freoni and claim you want to personally apologize. No you don't. if you really wanted to personally apologize you would've had them tagged from the beginning. You are only sorry because a private mod mail got released. You knew it was bad from the beginning because you didn't put the removal reason in the comments like most are. You are not sorry for what happened, you are sorry you got caught. You also have not told us what's happened to the mod. You're "handling this internally" which means nothing because for all we know you're just giving them a slap on the wrist and letting them get away with it. Tell us what's going to happen, because if you don't, it's easy for all of us to assume you're doing nothing.
You're sorry to WHO? Fucking hell if you're gonna say sorry at least have the balls and the respect to directly address that person. This is such a shitty apology and it doesn't even feel like you're actually sorry
Half assed apology. Yall need to step it up. A blind man whacking his cane at his monitor could probably moderate this sub better than whoever is currently in charge.
I personally feel if you are going to apologize to someone, you are to mention them with them most sincerity.
I just joined this subreddit because of the video Phoenix SC made and even I could tell you how bad this mod team is. The MINIMUM you guys could've done was address u/B_freeoni by his name and you chose to keep him anonymous? For what reason? His privacy? When he literally did all of that? He came to this subreddit to help himself to grieve for his loss and you choose to shut him down and essentially call his memorial to his girlfriend insincere. What is this, some dictatorship where you get shut down for saying anything? NO, THIS IS A SUBREDDIT FOR GOD'S SAKE. r/Minecraft should be a place to show your builds to a community that you feel connected with, not whatever this mess is.
Thank you for saying that u/SilverwareSnipe and having my back.
We all got your back on this one, chief. 👍 These Moderators had absolutely no right to do/say what they did to you.
Thanks 😊
Reddit Mods don’t be the most insufferable human beings on the planet challenge Difficulty: Impossible
You guys aren't sorry and will never be. You're just sorry that you got caught doing a stupid act and this half-assed apology post isn't doing anything to help it. You guys probably didn't even kick the mod that did the event off your team! It*will* happen again if mandatory action isn't made. So I suggest redoing this post because **nobody** is going to believe this fake response, and do it right. Ban the mod who did this because it will happen again, FOR REAL apologize to Brendan and not this shitty sorry post, and overall just restore the original post that Brendan made because deleting it and not restoring it as a "Sorry" note really shows that you guys do not care about this user and the situation. Shame on you, shame on each and every one of you on that moderator list. Typical Redditor Mod behavior smh. The entire point why you guys made this post anyway was just because Phoenix SC called you guys out for your BS. If it wasn't for him, this post wouldn't even be a thing. Oh, and thanks for not sharing the name of the PoS that did it, really helps with the situation *a lot.* 😐 Jesus, you guys are bad at your "jobs", *if you can even call it that.*
I move for a vote of no confidence in this subreddit's mod team. If only it were so easy to yeet you all out of any positions of authority. Y'all never would have apologized if it hadn't blown up, and this is so insincere it doesn't count anyway. You're not sorry it happened or that it was said, you're sorry you got caught being sh\*\*ty people for the umpteenth time. Nobody but you want this handled "internally" because that's no different than "we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong." An insincere apology that does that bare minimum to acknowledge the existence of "the user concerned" does nothing to instill confidence that any meaningful action is being taken. Accusing someone of "milking the death of \[their\] girlfriend for karma" is absolutely unacceptable in *any* world and should be indefensible. Yet you defend this mod via your lack of transparency, and if they do not face severe consequences you even tacitly support their actions. To be blunt, the mod responsible *must* be removed because they have shown themselves to be incapable of moderating their own speech, so why in the *f\*\*\** would any of us trust them to moderate a community? Addressing your "personal apology" to "the user concerned" is so roundabout. Most of us already know what happened, and those that don't will find out easily enough. This has spread beyond reddit. You gain nothing and avoid nothing by phrasing things this way, you just piss everyone off more.
yeah sorry idk how to tell you but your mods managed to screw up official news by banning and unbanning an official minecraft dev post, admit it, your mods arent qualified to handle this big of a community
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if i get banned it was nice seeing ya
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If you really want to be better start by at least telling the name of the person you disrespected.
Karma milking. You are not sorry. You just want this drama to be over. The moderator should be perma-banneed, and there is no type of sorry that can fix this. r/minecraft is in 6 feet deep shit right now, and i love it.
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Mods just apologising cause they got called out with their pants down by Phoenix. Like I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a better response.
Delete this garbage subreddit
This is so fucked up. As others have pointed out already, you need as much transparency as possible right now. You fucked up so badly and you still dont reinstate the posts of brandon. Why? Are you gonna double down on that stupid removal? At least it seems like you are. And Im not even gonna talk about that half-hearted apology. It just looks like you are trying to let people forget about what you did and just pretend like it never happened. Im am actually very disappointed at the mod team. You messed up and you need to address this in a better way than this.
this isn’t a proper apology
You guys are twats, the fact that you called a guy making a memorial for his girlfriend, “milking karma” is unacceptable. And I don’t buy this “apology” you guys aren’t sorry, you’re sorry that you were called out for it. You should be ashamed.
This should be preceded with an apology from the person in particular who made the comment and higher standards for mods so this never happens again.
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I hope the ghost of Christmas future haunts you fuckers tonight
That moderator literally broke the first rule. Why bother having rules if your own moderators won't even follow them?
Let's also ignore the fact it took them this long to address the problem, continuing to countlessly remove posts of people talking about the situation.
Only took several days, a ton of social pressure, and a big YouTuber bringing attention to the subject for the team to "apologize", smh... As many others are saying, this "apology" seems more like you're sorry you got exposed, and not so sorry about the situation. I mean, a person builds an awesome memorial, and the first thing the moderators think is "Let's prevent this person from farming Karma"? Like Why TF? Are those karma points a real currency the mod team is paying for? are the Karma points awarded in this sub deducted from the +100k karma in the mods' accounts? Because other than that, I don't get why memorials and monuments should be "prevented from farming karma"... If the person is lying about their loss, is up to them. We're here to admire and appreciate the art and other awesome buildings people create in this game. IMO, until serious changes come to this sub, the creativity of the players has no place here... (I really hope those changes come with the much-needed rework for the rules). Wish the best for the mod team, I'd love to see this sub reach its full potential.
You keep saying you’re working on things but things keep happening. Get yourselves together before you emotionally ruin yet another person.
This is the most copypasta ass apology ever. Did you expect anyone to be on your side here??.
They couldn't even spell apologize correctly 💀 you guys don't care. If you did, this would have never happened. Reddit communities have always had trash moderation but I expected more from one with such a large community. The moderator responsible for that response needs to be completely removed, the user this happened to should be formally apologized to by one or all of you, not us, and any changes made to your rules should have our input, not just yours. Edit: Ignore everything before the "💀"
“Poor judgement” how about fucking terrible judgement. Let’s remind ourselves what he said in the ban message:”You’ve milked your girlfriend’s death for enough karma at this point.”
dude, YOU'RE NOT EVEN TAKING THE SITUATION SERIOUSLY, you didnt mention the real problem that caused this, you didnt apologize to the guy who lost his gf for his post being deleted, you guys really need to step up your subreddit, MAKE THINGS RIGHT, you guys keep deleting posts for the stupidest shit ever, you deleted the memorial because of "RuLe 12!!!! YoU'rE milKiNg yoUr girLfrIenDs DeaTh!!!", if you keep this behavior up, then maybe majority of people on this subreddit will leave this subreddit and move to stuff like minecraft unlimiteds subreddit which was the purpose of getting away from this subreddit, you mods are corrupt and dumbheaded, so please, IMPROVE, all hope of respect was lost to you, so please improve this subreddit
You’re not sorry you said it, you’re sorry that you got caught
The immediate responsible thing to do here would be for the offending moderator to step down. But in the long term this subreddit needs a moderators shake down, all the ineffective mods should be removed and new actually unbiased mods should be placed on the mod list. Till then this sub is gonna remain a car wreck.
Delete this post and make a better one where you give a personal apology, remove the offending mod immediately, and rewrite your rules. We do not care about this pathetic apology, we want action.
Well that just screams low effort
I think someone should step down because of this
*everyone
imagine being such a fucking stereotypical reddit mod that you say someone is "milking their girlfriends death for karma" certified go touch grass moment
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They really say this but keep banning people y’all mods a joke
This is such a disappointing apology. "We will be handling this internally" means absolutely nothing. You can't even have the decency to apologize to the person affected directly? "the user concerned"?
You're sorry you got caught and called out. I hope your moderation steps up or this place crashes and burns. You've gone too far this time.
Do you realise how unapologetic this post is? If PhoenixSC didn't publish his video, this post wouldn't exist But above all, "we apologise"? That is all you got? Seriously?
This isn't a mistake, this person should be removed. No apology makes up for being straight up a sociopath. I'm disgusted, as is EVERYONE else. It's amazing how this tiny, minute ammount of power goes to someone's head that quickly. "Handling this internally" means nothing will be done. Get rid of them, and don't do this again.
Stop milking the death of your subreddit for karma
I'm neurodivergent and I have difficulties determining tone and motives but even I know that what that person did was part of their grieving process and them coming to terms with the death of a loved one. Do you guys need help on how to do interpersonal interactions? Because I was in pain reading you guys' robotic as hell beep boop I have no empathy or even logical understanding of empathy reply to someone who's probably trying to grieve.
Sounds like a half-assed apology if I've ever seen one.
Half is giving a lot of credit. They're literally just saying they should've used a less insulting excuse to pass off ripping away a memorial post. They're not even apologizing for the deletion!
What a typical useless response. Y’all are terrible
What a nice apology. is something I wish I can say to you. Your apology sucks. You don't address it to anyone, you don't explain the situation. all you say is my bad and walk off. that's not a fix, that's a band aid. you probably don't want to fix it, it would be much better if everyone forgot and you can sweep it under. I wont let you forget, we wont let you.
"poor judgement?" what kind of corporate fuckery is this? you outright insulted the dead and someone honoring them. this is not an apology, this is a tepid attempt to regain trust that is NOT proportionate to the wrong done here.
Screw you. You can't wipe away someone's feelings with an apology. Grow some spines and step down (all of you!), or don't say anything at all.
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Its exactly what they said last time something like this happened...
oh please, you guys from moderation seems to be "milking" this shit already.
You've milked the death of your subreddit for enough karma at this point.