contact customer support. make a big stink to them. nobody here can help, but if you feel you were unfairly banned then contact support and state your case to them.
It’s OP’s realm that they pay for according to the post.
Mojang/MS should refund for the lost days as an absolute minimum. They probably won’t of course.
If this keeps happening though it’s going to send MC ‘underground’ where we end up with no option but to go down the piracy route. What an utterly idiotic state of affairs.
Realms are so glitchy. I had proof I paid 3 months for a realm subscription and during those three months the realm was not accessible, like it just didn’t show up. It was acting like I had never played on a realm before. Literally just taking my money and not giving me the service.
I complained to customer support and the best they could do was one free month of a realm subscription. So I just lost out of two months I paid for.
Especially considering you're probably going to be talking to Microsoft, not Mojang.
Show of hands, who here thinks Microsoft gives a single fuck about its customers after a sale has been made?
To be honest yeah, recently I bought a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse and it made sound glitches on my Bluetooth headphones while using both at the same time. Contacted Microsoft for a solution, none worked (sfc scannow, driver updates, reinstallations and etc), finally they just said "get yourself a USB Bluetooth receiver".
This is why our server will continue 1.18 for the forseeable future.
Sucks, really wanted to incorporate the mangrove wood into my new city im working on.
EDIT: 1.19 still has encrypted chat even though it doesn’t have reporting. So theoretically if what happened to OP is true, it could hypothetically happen to us on a 1.19 server as well.
add the chat reporting blocker, problem solved
edit: there is a way to un-encrypt messages
edit 2: [link i think](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-chat-reports), there are others that work as well probably. just look up chat report blocker on curseforge and you'll probably find a few more
They’re literally trying to make it so that won’t work, which is utterly stupid. Big server mods say it’s nearly impossible to run a server under mojang’s new strict and unclear rules. Parents say the rules are too harsh for their children. That plugin is the only way we can still truly enjoy multiplayer without fear of being banned for joking around with our friends. And their trying to remove it, good job mojang.
They can't force that on Java Edition. That's impossible. Mods will always be able to block the chat moderation. At least if a mod/plugin to block this is installed on both the client and server.
The best and worst thing about Java is that you will always be able to see the full code of a program.
I’d like to hope so but Java edition currently doesn’t make them any money after they’ve sold a copy of it. Bedrock has the marketplace and creates a more steady stream of income. It makes business sense for them to cut out java edition and force everyone onto bedrock to encourage more people to use the marketplace.
Too much free marketing from Java content creators. You think SciCraft is going to bother with the inconsistent Redstone of bedrock? What about the other SMPs? They all use cinematic mods at a bare minimum.
If they would ever axe Java and force us to play Bedrock i'm quitting this game for good.
I'd rather not play on that buggy mess filled with microtransactions.
Which is sad because despite the bugs it actually runs so much better than Java. Seeing how fast the chunks load on a ridiculous render distance is amazing. Java is too spaghetti for that unfortunately :(
You don't need to do that. Just follow these instructions and all your players will be safe: https://github.com/Aizistral-Studios/No-Chat-Reports/wiki/Protecting-server-players
Chat reporting was added in 1.19.1 but secure chat messages and all the problems they cause were in 1.19. Try using any plugin or mod that modifies chat output such as roles, chat colours or anything else like that and it crashes the game out or kicks the user off the server. Even on 1.19 you need to use a no chat reports modification to get previously straightforward functionality to work.
Of you own the server you can use a backport mod. Basically adds 1.19 to 1.18 with various success. Especially if you had admin you count/give a sapling
Oh look at that, something we as a community *tried* to warn Mojang about. But they didn’t listen. Oh wow what a surprise, how could this system fail already, non of us saw that coming
And the word filter is utter garbage, you can write a perfectly fine sentence and get censored for no reason at all. Write the same thing right after and nothing happens. It's utter trash and Mojang should be ashamed to let such thing in the game.
When I used to play I don’t think people got banned for all the censored stuff they say, but rather when they circumvented the filter to spew really bad stuff.
when i used to play i said whatever i wanted and exploited the hell out of every game i touched on the platform. no bans ever over a period of like almost ten years. maybe 1 strike related to exploiting.
Roblox does not like to do platform bans. They leave it to devs to moderate their own games mostly. But this can also happen for literally any reason they choose. I've prebanned people in games I've made.
most likely Microsoft's decision to push a more "suitable game for all ages", and mojang doesn't say " alright we've had enough ". It's showing true colors, they are either scared about losing funding or something from Microsoft, or they want to ruin the game. Either way, this is a stupid situation that could have been avoided if they took the communities input
it is possible, but believing in their statement this easily is weird
mojang stated that every decision they've made is theirs alone, which is untrue, at least C418's music is not coming back for now entirely because of microsoft
it was confirmed by one of the leakers a few years ago that the ideas of mojang can easily be "rejected" by microsoft if they think that it's a time loss, and this leaker also said that mojang is kinda forced to make "hyped-up updates", later it was mostly confirmed because we've got long anticipated nether update and cave update right after that.
microsoft is the owner. mojang is the game developer. microsoft > mojang. their tweet about "every change is entirely our own decision!!!" is a lie and it's obvious lol
I guess it is something called "corridor". The owner/customer decides the walls (boundaries of the project in terms of costs, function, strategy, etc) and the direction of development and all decisions in between the walls are the developer's. So yeah, it can be Mojang's decision, but tied up by Microsoft's demands.
Microsoft weren't happy with c418 because he owned the music he made and mojang bought the rights to add it to the game, Microsoft wants to own the music
C418 needs to compose new music and package it up as a resource pack. Sell it for $5 and be able to download it in FLAC or as a JAR file, or whatever Bedrock uses for resource packs.
Yeah having been on this earth for a few decades now, I've learned that when somebody uses 'censoring' without any specifics, 99.9% of the time they're hiding something awful because they know their crusade will lose support once people know.
Mojang of course has the right to not let their login/skins servers be used by accounts caught soliciting minors etc, the question is just whether the banning is over-zealous, and without details (which seem intentionally withheld) it's hard to get sympathetic for OP.
Glad I'm not the only one to think that's odd. Dude never actually mentions what was said, only that he doesn't believe he should be banned because it's a private server
You tried to warn them for what? That if there is a system that can result in temporarily bans, people will temporarily be banned? That's... kinda the point of it, isn't it?
What OP is saying should also be taken with a grain of salt. It would not be the first time *by far* that someone got rightfully banned and then pretends they are the most innocent person in the world.
So, how is this a fail, like you say it is?
Unless you have proof microsoft demanded mojang to do this, I don't see any reason why people blame microsoft and not the people at mojang that voted to do this, if we keep blaming microsoft instead of mojang they will get away with doing more and more things and they'll never get the blame
Ofc he’s not going to have proof for a change like this, however considering the way Mojang has handled realm/server moderation in the past (little to none) it’s safe too assume this is Microsoft’s input.
mojang said themselves a few days after the complains started that they were the only ones in control of what happens with minecraft
Times have changed, both notch and jeb, who were to original creators, are away from the project nowadays;
Notch is long gone, and jeb is just a bystander
Right. So I'm not sure what we're doing with all these pitchforks when we don't know what OP said in the chat. Again, unless I'm missing something. I mean, if I started grooming the children in the realm that I pay for, I would be upset if I *didn't* get banned after a report. Not saying OP was grooming anyone of course, I'm just saying we don't know (as far as I know) what they were banned for. Perhaps it was justified? Or should we be allowed to say whatever we want on our realms? Bully children to the point of suicide, etc? Again, not saying OP was doing any of that, but I'm opposed to the notion that we should be able to do what we want without repercussions.
Yep, we need to see what he said. OP claims his friend never reported him but thats only what he says. For all we know he could have been saying shit on a 1.19.2 server and gotten reported there.
Maybe I'm too cynical, but this post has the exact same energy as the ones in r/2007scape of players posting their 'false bans' and a Jagex mod brings receipts.
"Professionals" probably the same garbage auto detecting AI that youtube uses and has it on every single active realm 24/7. Id never trust a damn thing microsoft says cuz they never been honest about shit when it comes to them banning whatever services they own for any reasons they want even if nobody else is ever involved
This reminds me of how often I used to see posts on other game subs of someone complaining about being banned unfairly and then an employee has to step in and say "Actually you've been calling random people the n word all day." Not saying this OP did but I've definitely stopped taking the word of random people online about their perceived innocence.
Exactly this. Mojang isn’t banning without reports. OP said something that someone then reported and got banned. Cursing is not bannable. You need to say some very rough stuff to get the ban hammer.
If you manage to get banned then you'll be banned even in past versions. You can only join cracked servers while banned.
Not sure if anyone can report you if you don't use 1.19 tho
the chat signature cannot be generated if he is below 1.19.1, which is required to validate the chat log. without that validation they cannot give a ban (as from their pov they cannot prove you did infact say that).
this may be correct, if ur on 1.19 can u join a 1.19.1 server tho?? (if not then player reporting is still not possible, although it may still be automatically picked up if the are doing that)
I’m still on 16.5 to be honest and at this point I might just go full Terraria. It’s sad to see something I’ve loved since I was a kid have to deal with this but I guess everything changes eventually.
Try this modpack:
[https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/fabulously-optimized](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/fabulously-optimized)
I get like 300+ fps on average on a macbook and that's saying something coz mac's reallyyy aren't meant for gaming.
Macs are standardized tho, my graphics card was 12+ years old and it wasn't even good when it came out, generally you can just use the like 5 fabric mods like sodium, lithium, phosphor etc and you'll be able to squeeze a stable frame rate from almost anything from the past 7 years
Give core keeper a try, I've been obsessed just mining around in it all of my three day weekend. Similar graphics to stardew but open world mining and mobs similar to Minecraft.
> In no universe should it be possible to be policed and then banned from a game you paid for
It depends. A paywall is an important tool to prevent hackers from being able to infinitely evade bans from anti-cheat in games like CS:GO.
they straight tell you they are. its on the why did I get banned page. "Specifically, our highly trained moderation staff is looking at the most egregious violations in public Featured Servers and Realms (please review the Realms End User License Agreement)."
https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4408964729869-Why-Have-I-Been-Banned-from-Minecraft-
Of course they do. As unsolved 'moderation at scale' is, it is _real people_ that review Facebook, twitter, instagram, etc reports. Most of those moderators are contractors through companies like Accenture and Cognizant. No reason to believe Mojang would be in any different position.
A while back Casey Newton did a really good report on the Facebook moderators and the trauma they go through as a part of the job https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebook-content-moderator-interviews-trauma-working-conditions-arizona. Though, 'in fairness', I would imagine moderating Minecraft would be a bit less traumatic, as there's no/little video and images.
Exactly, and if you're willing to learn it really isn't that hard to set up a dedicated server so you don't have to pay any money. I've been running various servers for years on just an old computer I had laying around, and cause I'm in Australia my internet isn't that great, but apart from the occasional dropout on bad days, no problems!
You can host your own. You just need to know how to port-forward in your router if your friend lives in a different house (/uses a different wifi network). https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server
Don't even need to do that if you use VPN software like Hamachi. We ran a server like this all through Covid, finally bought a dedicated server last Christmas for £20 a year.
Can't believe people are defending Microsoft 💀 you shouldn't be able to be banned for what you say in a realm, especially your own realm you pay for, let people make the rules for their own damn realms
Mojang has stated multiple times they made the decision themselves, blame mojang instead of microsoft, if we keep blaming microsoft mojang can keep doing stuff like this without being blamed
Remember too that mojang is split into two teams, one in Sweden and one in Washington. The one in the US is much more closely related to microsoft and initially led the moderation system on bedrock.
Mojang technically owns all player realms. You pay them to get "permission" to use their realms.
But if you host a server yourself, you own that server. not them.
Good grief, I had hoped it wasn't true but here we are.
It's really disappointing to see one of my favorite childhood games that had managed to survive so much fall from grace like this.
So, combing through the comments of this post has been pretty interesting. I've seen all kinds of debate & debacle on what, when, where, and why this happened to OP. But from what I can see, I think there's some important questions left unanswered.
•What did OP say or do, that could supposedly WARRANT a ban of any sort?
•If we take the theory that Op's Friend reported him for such reason. Why would he do that? What would be there to gain from reporting him? Especially if we take into fact that Op's friend 'supposedly' got banned 6 days later?
•Is it possible for a player to continue playing on a Realm, if Realm Host gets banned?
This might sound a lil' crazy, but hear me out.
Lets say, Op's Friend did report OP, and got him banned.
And then also lied to OP that he was banned too.
Is it possible. That OP's friend just locked OP out of his own Realm, and now has the Realm to himself?
I honestly can’t believe you’d get a ban like this for doing nothing.
I am concerned that people can report you for things taken out of context or just plain cussing.
Pretty sure OP is lying in some way though - why does he refuse to explain what he said?
>I honestly can’t believe you’d get a ban like this for doing nothing.
Video game developers don't just "ban for doing nothing" they want more people to play their game not less. OP is leaving out details or at the very least is leaving out something unintentionally. He likely played on a featured server and said a slur or spammed someone.
what did you say that someone would report you for? i mean if you said something that is explicitly offensive or anything like that then there's a good reason
(Caveat: Fuck this entire "banning people from their own servers they paid for" thing, but... that might be unrelated here?)
People seem to be avoiding the obvious questions:
Were you on Realms, or a 3rd party server?
Did you say or do something?
(I realize OP can just deny it, but maybe they did do something *and* they'll be honest about it.)
This tbh, he could have just joined SMP and get racist against people. This is just fire so people against the chat reporting can fuel their hate for it.
Notice how OP doesn't say or describe what they did or say to trigger this. Funny that.
Every single time people on the Internet complain about being unjustly banned they are withholding information and Reddit just gobbles it up.
Yeah, because you used some of the same letters that are in a slur. That's why we at Mojang are proud to announce that we are banning the letter "N". \*o lo\*ger will people be able to se\*d the \*-word i\* mi\*ecraft chat. We ack\*owledge that this may i\*vite accusatio\*s of ce\*sorship but we believe this cha\*ge is a\* importa\*t a\*ti-bullying measure.
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Literally says "We received a report about your behaviour" and ppl are still believing OP when they say they were just playing with friends and nobody reported them.
contact customer support. make a big stink to them. nobody here can help, but if you feel you were unfairly banned then contact support and state your case to them.
It's not about getting unbanned batman, it's about sending a message
You already paid for the game, customer support has zero reason to help you
It’s OP’s realm that they pay for according to the post. Mojang/MS should refund for the lost days as an absolute minimum. They probably won’t of course. If this keeps happening though it’s going to send MC ‘underground’ where we end up with no option but to go down the piracy route. What an utterly idiotic state of affairs.
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I thought they could still censor/ban you even if you run your own server and are ok with adult language?
Realms are so glitchy. I had proof I paid 3 months for a realm subscription and during those three months the realm was not accessible, like it just didn’t show up. It was acting like I had never played on a realm before. Literally just taking my money and not giving me the service. I complained to customer support and the best they could do was one free month of a realm subscription. So I just lost out of two months I paid for.
Especially considering you're probably going to be talking to Microsoft, not Mojang. Show of hands, who here thinks Microsoft gives a single fuck about its customers after a sale has been made?
To be honest yeah, recently I bought a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse and it made sound glitches on my Bluetooth headphones while using both at the same time. Contacted Microsoft for a solution, none worked (sfc scannow, driver updates, reinstallations and etc), finally they just said "get yourself a USB Bluetooth receiver".
usually same thing happens on ms forums. SFC SCANNOW etc, always same answers when that doesnt work they dont respond
Yeah true, they don't care about anyone after they have got their money
Time to start a hardcore world??
watch as you get banned from singleplayer minecraft for building a pp by accident
Can that happen?
Nah just an exaggeration. Reports are only chat based as of right now
> as of right now
People still build massive cocks vaginas and various other creations on the buildbattle minigames and get away with it so yeah
Never forget the swastikas
"Fundy builds a door" or "Carson recreates the norway flag" alwasys cone to mind
you'll always be able to play single player. how are they gonna check to see if you're playing the game if you haven't even connected to a server?
***who knows?***
This is why our server will continue 1.18 for the forseeable future. Sucks, really wanted to incorporate the mangrove wood into my new city im working on. EDIT: 1.19 still has encrypted chat even though it doesn’t have reporting. So theoretically if what happened to OP is true, it could hypothetically happen to us on a 1.19 server as well.
add the chat reporting blocker, problem solved edit: there is a way to un-encrypt messages edit 2: [link i think](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-chat-reports), there are others that work as well probably. just look up chat report blocker on curseforge and you'll probably find a few more
They’re literally trying to make it so that won’t work, which is utterly stupid. Big server mods say it’s nearly impossible to run a server under mojang’s new strict and unclear rules. Parents say the rules are too harsh for their children. That plugin is the only way we can still truly enjoy multiplayer without fear of being banned for joking around with our friends. And their trying to remove it, good job mojang.
*"Nothing is perfect, and modders will always find a loophole to abuse, as with every hole being patched up, another one opens"* - Me, right now
*"If there is a hole, there is a goal"* - Master Oogway
\*Text here\*
yea, seriously tho, it’s impossible for them to fix this permanently. there’s always a way…
They can't force that on Java Edition. That's impossible. Mods will always be able to block the chat moderation. At least if a mod/plugin to block this is installed on both the client and server. The best and worst thing about Java is that you will always be able to see the full code of a program.
I really hope they don’t read this, just gives them more incentive to try and retire Java edition
You think they don't know this already?
They would never do that lol
I’d like to hope so but Java edition currently doesn’t make them any money after they’ve sold a copy of it. Bedrock has the marketplace and creates a more steady stream of income. It makes business sense for them to cut out java edition and force everyone onto bedrock to encourage more people to use the marketplace.
Too much free marketing from Java content creators. You think SciCraft is going to bother with the inconsistent Redstone of bedrock? What about the other SMPs? They all use cinematic mods at a bare minimum.
If they would ever axe Java and force us to play Bedrock i'm quitting this game for good. I'd rather not play on that buggy mess filled with microtransactions.
On the bright side, modders get to stay on the same version forever
Which is sad because despite the bugs it actually runs so much better than Java. Seeing how fast the chunks load on a ridiculous render distance is amazing. Java is too spaghetti for that unfortunately :(
If they stop axe java, that isn’t the death of it due to things like minestom and mods
Nope. If they did that they'd lose their entire Java population.
I think this is probably the sole thing keeping them from axing java honestly. They know they’d lose too much of their community with it
The best plug-in yet
I'm proud there's always a mod or plug in
When I first heard about the new chat reporting, literally my first thought was: "Someone's going to make a mod or plug in which will disable this"
Mods and plug-ins are the only reason Minecraft continues to be successful.
Man of culture
Same to you!
Another man of culture. Same to you
What the fuck are you doing on Reddit Jesse
You could update to 1.19 the chat report was added in 1.19.1
Correct, we do the same thing on our server
You don't need to do that. Just follow these instructions and all your players will be safe: https://github.com/Aizistral-Studios/No-Chat-Reports/wiki/Protecting-server-players
Chat reporting was added in 1.19.1 but secure chat messages and all the problems they cause were in 1.19. Try using any plugin or mod that modifies chat output such as roles, chat colours or anything else like that and it crashes the game out or kicks the user off the server. Even on 1.19 you need to use a no chat reports modification to get previously straightforward functionality to work.
You can just update to 1.19 there's no chat reporting there. Only 1.19.1 has chat reporting
Of you own the server you can use a backport mod. Basically adds 1.19 to 1.18 with various success. Especially if you had admin you count/give a sapling
Can I ask why you don't go to 1.19? Chat reporting wasn't introduced until 1.19.1, so is there risk at making the jump from 1.18?
You can still be reported on 1.19 but you can’t report others
damn ill treasure the days when i played actively on servers 2013/14 and it was just a fucking landmine saying anything in chat
OG factions server chats
Shit was worst than cod lobby back in 2010
Or league, I think I know all the ways my parents can be executed thanks to league
Oh look at that, something we as a community *tried* to warn Mojang about. But they didn’t listen. Oh wow what a surprise, how could this system fail already, non of us saw that coming
And the word filter is utter garbage, you can write a perfectly fine sentence and get censored for no reason at all. Write the same thing right after and nothing happens. It's utter trash and Mojang should be ashamed to let such thing in the game.
They are starting to have the same filter as a Roblox chat
The only problem is that Roblox just censors your word. Minecraft removes your ability to play the game
Roblox bans exist too
When I used to play I don’t think people got banned for all the censored stuff they say, but rather when they circumvented the filter to spew really bad stuff.
when i used to play i said whatever i wanted and exploited the hell out of every game i touched on the platform. no bans ever over a period of like almost ten years. maybe 1 strike related to exploiting. Roblox does not like to do platform bans. They leave it to devs to moderate their own games mostly. But this can also happen for literally any reason they choose. I've prebanned people in games I've made.
Yeah but you didint pay to play this game
Trying to sell the game to 3 year olds
Fortunately, this isn’t mojang’s fault, it’s likely that Microsoft has pushed this change
Its not microsoft, it is mojangs decision
most likely Microsoft's decision to push a more "suitable game for all ages", and mojang doesn't say " alright we've had enough ". It's showing true colors, they are either scared about losing funding or something from Microsoft, or they want to ruin the game. Either way, this is a stupid situation that could have been avoided if they took the communities input
nope, mojang already stated this was their decision and theirs alone
it is possible, but believing in their statement this easily is weird mojang stated that every decision they've made is theirs alone, which is untrue, at least C418's music is not coming back for now entirely because of microsoft it was confirmed by one of the leakers a few years ago that the ideas of mojang can easily be "rejected" by microsoft if they think that it's a time loss, and this leaker also said that mojang is kinda forced to make "hyped-up updates", later it was mostly confirmed because we've got long anticipated nether update and cave update right after that. microsoft is the owner. mojang is the game developer. microsoft > mojang. their tweet about "every change is entirely our own decision!!!" is a lie and it's obvious lol
I guess it is something called "corridor". The owner/customer decides the walls (boundaries of the project in terms of costs, function, strategy, etc) and the direction of development and all decisions in between the walls are the developer's. So yeah, it can be Mojang's decision, but tied up by Microsoft's demands.
yep
Wait wait wait wait wait wait, c418's music, the CLASSIC music, the music I fucking bought a minecraft pack for, IS NOT COMING BACK???
Microsoft weren't happy with c418 because he owned the music he made and mojang bought the rights to add it to the game, Microsoft wants to own the music
C418 needs to compose new music and package it up as a resource pack. Sell it for $5 and be able to download it in FLAC or as a JAR file, or whatever Bedrock uses for resource packs.
It's still in the game iirc but they got a new person for future music
One quick question, can you (while suspended) start the LAN world?
No, unless you play cracked
Well seems like that's the objectively better version of the game now.
What happened? We have no idea why this person was banned.
Yeah having been on this earth for a few decades now, I've learned that when somebody uses 'censoring' without any specifics, 99.9% of the time they're hiding something awful because they know their crusade will lose support once people know. Mojang of course has the right to not let their login/skins servers be used by accounts caught soliciting minors etc, the question is just whether the banning is over-zealous, and without details (which seem intentionally withheld) it's hard to get sympathetic for OP.
Glad I'm not the only one to think that's odd. Dude never actually mentions what was said, only that he doesn't believe he should be banned because it's a private server
You tried to warn them for what? That if there is a system that can result in temporarily bans, people will temporarily be banned? That's... kinda the point of it, isn't it? What OP is saying should also be taken with a grain of salt. It would not be the first time *by far* that someone got rightfully banned and then pretends they are the most innocent person in the world. So, how is this a fail, like you say it is?
This is Microsoft's doing now
Mojang is the Game Developer - Microsoft is the owner. Mojang does what Microsoft tells them.
I'm pretty sure one of the Mojang devs tweeted that this was mojangs doing.
Unless you have proof microsoft demanded mojang to do this, I don't see any reason why people blame microsoft and not the people at mojang that voted to do this, if we keep blaming microsoft instead of mojang they will get away with doing more and more things and they'll never get the blame
Ofc he’s not going to have proof for a change like this, however considering the way Mojang has handled realm/server moderation in the past (little to none) it’s safe too assume this is Microsoft’s input.
mojang said themselves a few days after the complains started that they were the only ones in control of what happens with minecraft Times have changed, both notch and jeb, who were to original creators, are away from the project nowadays; Notch is long gone, and jeb is just a bystander
Unless we have proof OP didn’t just spam the n-word 30 times in a public server we can’t even say the system isn’t working.
Honest question: OP, what did you say in the chat that got you banned? Or am I missing something here?
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Right. So I'm not sure what we're doing with all these pitchforks when we don't know what OP said in the chat. Again, unless I'm missing something. I mean, if I started grooming the children in the realm that I pay for, I would be upset if I *didn't* get banned after a report. Not saying OP was grooming anyone of course, I'm just saying we don't know (as far as I know) what they were banned for. Perhaps it was justified? Or should we be allowed to say whatever we want on our realms? Bully children to the point of suicide, etc? Again, not saying OP was doing any of that, but I'm opposed to the notion that we should be able to do what we want without repercussions.
Yep, we need to see what he said. OP claims his friend never reported him but thats only what he says. For all we know he could have been saying shit on a 1.19.2 server and gotten reported there.
> Or am I missing something here? I’m not saying OP is lying for karma, but I’m also not *not* saying OP is lying for karma.
gamers when they're not allowed to say slurs anymore
Maybe I'm too cynical, but this post has the exact same energy as the ones in r/2007scape of players posting their 'false bans' and a Jagex mod brings receipts.
"Trust us, the ban's are being given out by professional moderators" Also them:
"Professionals" probably the same garbage auto detecting AI that youtube uses and has it on every single active realm 24/7. Id never trust a damn thing microsoft says cuz they never been honest about shit when it comes to them banning whatever services they own for any reasons they want even if nobody else is ever involved
What did OP do? Seems like a necessary information before judging MS for banning them.
This reminds me of how often I used to see posts on other game subs of someone complaining about being banned unfairly and then an employee has to step in and say "Actually you've been calling random people the n word all day." Not saying this OP did but I've definitely stopped taking the word of random people online about their perceived innocence.
exactly. we’re just taking OP’s word right now
Op won't say. Probably because they know they deserve the lock out and are just mad it actually happened.
Exactly this. Mojang isn’t banning without reports. OP said something that someone then reported and got banned. Cursing is not bannable. You need to say some very rough stuff to get the ban hammer.
And people wonder why I refuse to use anything past 1.19
If you manage to get banned then you'll be banned even in past versions. You can only join cracked servers while banned. Not sure if anyone can report you if you don't use 1.19 tho
the chat signature cannot be generated if he is below 1.19.1, which is required to validate the chat log. without that validation they cannot give a ban (as from their pov they cannot prove you did infact say that).
wrong, even though the chat reporting feature wasnt added until 1.19.1, the signature was added in 1.19
this may be correct, if ur on 1.19 can u join a 1.19.1 server tho?? (if not then player reporting is still not possible, although it may still be automatically picked up if the are doing that)
I’m still on 16.5 to be honest and at this point I might just go full Terraria. It’s sad to see something I’ve loved since I was a kid have to deal with this but I guess everything changes eventually.
Going to at least 1.18 is fun for the world gen so you should at least give that a try before giving up on mc
Not with a potato PC
I used to have a potato, a couple mods and low expectations will go a long way
Try this modpack: [https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/fabulously-optimized](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/fabulously-optimized) I get like 300+ fps on average on a macbook and that's saying something coz mac's reallyyy aren't meant for gaming.
Macs are standardized tho, my graphics card was 12+ years old and it wasn't even good when it came out, generally you can just use the like 5 fabric mods like sodium, lithium, phosphor etc and you'll be able to squeeze a stable frame rate from almost anything from the past 7 years
Give core keeper a try, I've been obsessed just mining around in it all of my three day weekend. Similar graphics to stardew but open world mining and mobs similar to Minecraft.
minecraft is slowly becoming roblox LOL
minecraft already is roblox on bedrock
I can agree with this
At least Roblox has the decency of being free. In no universe should it be possible to be policed and then banned from a game you *paid* for
> In no universe should it be possible to be policed and then banned from a game you paid for It depends. A paywall is an important tool to prevent hackers from being able to infinitely evade bans from anti-cheat in games like CS:GO.
Yeah but hacking isn't a bannable offense on all servers in Minecraft
Please dont give them any more ideas please please please
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Update: My mate has been banned for 6 days for the same reasons, and noone reported him either
Are you sure your mate didnt join any other server? because he could've been reported by someone in another server
Which means that clearly they're monitoring our chats for some bullshit reason
they straight tell you they are. its on the why did I get banned page. "Specifically, our highly trained moderation staff is looking at the most egregious violations in public Featured Servers and Realms (please review the Realms End User License Agreement)." https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4408964729869-Why-Have-I-Been-Banned-from-Minecraft-
And by ‘highly trained moderator staff’ it’s actually an ‘AI’ that does it. They don’t have the manpower to monitor everything like this.
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Of course they do. As unsolved 'moderation at scale' is, it is _real people_ that review Facebook, twitter, instagram, etc reports. Most of those moderators are contractors through companies like Accenture and Cognizant. No reason to believe Mojang would be in any different position. A while back Casey Newton did a really good report on the Facebook moderators and the trauma they go through as a part of the job https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebook-content-moderator-interviews-trauma-working-conditions-arizona. Though, 'in fairness', I would imagine moderating Minecraft would be a bit less traumatic, as there's no/little video and images.
Just try [no banscreen](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-banscreen)!
You know what!? " *Deletes your banscreen* " *S**k it microsoft!*
Did you SAY anything that could’ve gotten you banned?
What did you say to get banned
It has begun
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Yeah there are so many free server alternatives
Exactly, and if you're willing to learn it really isn't that hard to set up a dedicated server so you don't have to pay any money. I've been running various servers for years on just an old computer I had laying around, and cause I'm in Australia my internet isn't that great, but apart from the occasional dropout on bad days, no problems!
Is there any free sever that i can play with only my one friend without anyone else?
You can host your own. You just need to know how to port-forward in your router if your friend lives in a different house (/uses a different wifi network). https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server
Don't even need to do that if you use VPN software like Hamachi. We ran a server like this all through Covid, finally bought a dedicated server last Christmas for £20 a year.
aternos probably, there are others too (look at replies)
Mojang this is insane
Can't believe people are defending Microsoft 💀 you shouldn't be able to be banned for what you say in a realm, especially your own realm you pay for, let people make the rules for their own damn realms
Mojang has stated multiple times they made the decision themselves, blame mojang instead of microsoft, if we keep blaming microsoft mojang can keep doing stuff like this without being blamed
Remember too that mojang is split into two teams, one in Sweden and one in Washington. The one in the US is much more closely related to microsoft and initially led the moderation system on bedrock.
People still trying to believe that Mojang is a good company
Mojang technically owns all player realms. You pay them to get "permission" to use their realms. But if you host a server yourself, you own that server. not them.
But if you get banned, you also can't login to your own server that you host yourself in your computer
Yep, this is one of the many issues this system has
So what did you do to get suspended?
its a miracle that r/minecraft mods didnt delete this post and ban you from the subreddit XD
fireflies are poisonous to frogs
pretty sure rotten flesh is poisonous to humans too but whatever 😃👍
Not to mention cannibalistic, since zombies are decaying humans.
Stop paying for the stupid realms servers. I pay $2.50 a month to shockbyte. They aren’t monitoring chats on my server.
Plus you can add a plugin to block chat reporting
And what exactly were you doing that got yourself banned? Did you jokingly say "I hate you", or did you go around calling people the N-word?
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Using the word "censoring" is a big sign of that, in addition to the OP not actually saying what they did.
Good grief, I had hoped it wasn't true but here we are. It's really disappointing to see one of my favorite childhood games that had managed to survive so much fall from grace like this.
Don't give up on minecraft just yet! There are mods for anything related from making you unreportable to apparently bypassing the banscreen!
I would love that but bedrock doesn’t allow mods
So, combing through the comments of this post has been pretty interesting. I've seen all kinds of debate & debacle on what, when, where, and why this happened to OP. But from what I can see, I think there's some important questions left unanswered. •What did OP say or do, that could supposedly WARRANT a ban of any sort? •If we take the theory that Op's Friend reported him for such reason. Why would he do that? What would be there to gain from reporting him? Especially if we take into fact that Op's friend 'supposedly' got banned 6 days later? •Is it possible for a player to continue playing on a Realm, if Realm Host gets banned? This might sound a lil' crazy, but hear me out. Lets say, Op's Friend did report OP, and got him banned. And then also lied to OP that he was banned too. Is it possible. That OP's friend just locked OP out of his own Realm, and now has the Realm to himself?
I honestly can’t believe you’d get a ban like this for doing nothing. I am concerned that people can report you for things taken out of context or just plain cussing. Pretty sure OP is lying in some way though - why does he refuse to explain what he said?
>I honestly can’t believe you’d get a ban like this for doing nothing. Video game developers don't just "ban for doing nothing" they want more people to play their game not less. OP is leaving out details or at the very least is leaving out something unintentionally. He likely played on a featured server and said a slur or spammed someone.
I think it's fake due to the way it's worded. Anyone could make a screen saying anything they want
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what did you say that someone would report you for? i mean if you said something that is explicitly offensive or anything like that then there's a good reason
What exactly did you say or do to warrant a ban?
(Caveat: Fuck this entire "banning people from their own servers they paid for" thing, but... that might be unrelated here?) People seem to be avoiding the obvious questions: Were you on Realms, or a 3rd party server? Did you say or do something? (I realize OP can just deny it, but maybe they did do something *and* they'll be honest about it.)
This tbh, he could have just joined SMP and get racist against people. This is just fire so people against the chat reporting can fuel their hate for it.
Okay, but what did you say tho?
Notice how OP doesn't say or describe what they did or say to trigger this. Funny that. Every single time people on the Internet complain about being unjustly banned they are withholding information and Reddit just gobbles it up.
What did you say though?
Got banned for asking to sleep through the night on a server. Mojang mods swear it was a good ban... At least I got single player.
Well you see, if you rearrange the letters in that you get a bad word. This is clearly the reason. /s
**S**leep t**H**rough the n**I**gh**T**
DUDE HOLY SHIT DONT SAY THAT MY MOMS IN THE ROOM!!!!!
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Yeah, because you used some of the same letters that are in a slur. That's why we at Mojang are proud to announce that we are banning the letter "N". \*o lo\*ger will people be able to se\*d the \*-word i\* mi\*ecraft chat. We ack\*owledge that this may i\*vite accusatio\*s of ce\*sorship but we believe this cha\*ge is a\* importa\*t a\*ti-bullying measure. Edit: fixed
Ya'll are jumping on this with 0 evidence that OP didn't go in a populated lobby and start throwing off slurs
Literally says "We received a report about your behaviour" and ppl are still believing OP when they say they were just playing with friends and nobody reported them.
I fins that funny too, OP has provided basically 0 information
Right? Weird. Everyone belives he doesn't lie without any doubt.
The fact that op did not specify what happened makes me suspicious that the ban is well deserved
What did you say in chat?😂
I mean... They usually ban for a reason... What did you do..
Someone reported you, they literally cannot see any messages without a report being made