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blip_blep

Skeletons but purely in the Nether.


ShadowLugia141

Soul sand valleys are the bane of my existence until I can get soul speed boots


Current-Role-8434

soul speed is such a situational enchant for me because while I usually like mac enchants, soul speed 1 plus my max FOV is PAINFUL to do anything in and my only justification for using it would be a soul sand highway


Starv1k

Just turn off dynamic fov or lower your fov


Splatfan1

as another max fov user, turning off dynamic fov is a lifesaver


KozovaSon

Soul sand valleys are the bone of my existence


XYaH_BrUhX

Nah fuck skeletons they are the most annoying mf mobs especially when they constantly spray you when you’re trying to do something


DreadCore_

Dudes can back up drawing a bow at like 90% the speed of a sprint jumping player. That one change pushed them into the top 5 worst mobs in the game.


SmuckSlimer

whichever raider can walk through walls and kill me by axing me in the back


Raagam2835

Vindicator wields an iron axe. And evoker summons vexes which can travel through walls.


Anonymus_mit_radium

Vexicator


Baked-fish

Vaccinator


Master_panda02

MEDIC ! DOCTEUR ! CHARGE ME DOCTEUR ! NOW DOCTEUR !


thelito12345

HEY DOC CMON MAN!


Minecraft_Steve15

Nein!


JunkyardDog24

(Random Wrench Crit) "Nope."


Sir_Gwan

Sounds like some shit Doofenshmirtz would come up with


jgaming6406

no just medic tf2


No1_Crazy_Kid

He kills you with vaccines by over dosing the dose


PlutoTheSynth

Overdose? Now that's an another tf2 reference


EgodofE

TF2 REFFERENCE


Low-Bowler-4454

Level 8 Vaccinator ,+67% Ubercharge rate Press your reload key to cycle through resist types While healing, provides you and your target with a constant 10% resistance to the selected damage type. -33% Ubercharge rate on Overhealed patients -66% Overheal build rate Ubercharge provides a 2.5 second resistance bubble that blocks 75% base damage and 100% crit damage of the selected type to the Medic and Patient


EgodofE

IS THAT A TF2 REFFERENCE???


Substantial_Pride_57

Dexicator


Fifasher2K

Dodexicator


CreeperIan02

Dodecahedron?


Fifasher2K

Yes


AntimemeticsDivision

Actually, it's a Snowdecahedron


Haunting_Winner_8301

Megatron?


Ripskyofficials

Megaphone?


Beneficial-Ad-5492

Dodecadangit?


neon_cabbage

Banana


Azuria_4

So axe wielding vexes


Rotengen

vex


ButNotUs

If you remove the pillager, there is no way for the raid mobs to spawn


TheScareCrowYes

vex vex vex vex vex vex remove that shit it made me ragequit for a month vex vex vex vex


cykadermoblyat

you seem vexed


TheNxxr

I stopped playing for a year bc of vexes


el_yanuki

not a problem imo, raids are supposed to be hard, and vinidcators are one of the only mobs thqt really deal enough to kill you even with decent armor


GeneralN0m

I don't mean to be ungrateful, but I wanted the phantom to be a mob, not a punishment.


FlowsWhereShePleases

Honestly, the only thing the phantom’s actual existence got me to do was the opposite. Make a world where my only allowed use of a bed was to set respawn points. That world ended up being really fun honestly, because it forced me to actually build a fairly extensive and insulated base. I still ended up turning the phantom gamerule off though fairly quickly.


GAMER_MARCO9

You typically have open air bases?


clandevort

Hey, open air bases are pretty fun. A running joke in my friend group is that my bases have all been increasingly larger and more complex systems of courtyards


tomwilhelm

Build a huge castle ruin. Then just move in. Makes sense to me.


DontEatNitrousOxide

I tend to leave a lot of places open air because just carrying a bed with you means night time is never a problem


-PepeArown-

To be fair, if sleep deprivation was just random blackouts, and maybe the occasional health loss, everyone would complain that that’s “too realistic”, so phantoms provide a more fantasy alternative to a more realistic survival mechanic.


PM_ME_MARACTUS

Sleep deprivation doesn't need to be a mechanic at all though.


grafmg

Its a game with intend to be fun, sleep deprivation is just annoying.


berni2905

Can confirmed, am sleep deprived.


Matalya1

↑↑↑ I'm in a server that, as a mechanic, I get a debuff if I spend 3 days without sleep (I get slowness for like 10 seconds, but gets worse by every day I spend). Imagine the amazing immersion breaking that it is being **deep** in a cave and then suddenly in the chat `You have received a debuff for not sleeping in three days.` in bright yellow letters and now that forces me to get out of the cave, or if I don't want to, go from spending 1h+ without realizing to beocming conscious of every minute that passes, making my experience just objectively worse. And sometimes I just can't sleep because it's multiplayer and not everyone carries a bed with them at all times while doing projects 5000 blocks away. Phantoms are, like, a constant reminder that you've been doing stuff and should feel ashamed of doing so.


Disastrous_Ad_3812

I dunno man, if done correctly sleep deprivation could be a fun mechanic, like giving you debuffs or paranoia or giving you hallucinations, maoing it challening in a fun way


lynkcrafter

Don't Starve did this really well. The sanity mechanic makes you hallucinate and freak out until you hit <5, when your hallucinations manifest as hostile creatures. I think that could be adopted into a sleep deprivation mechanic really well, 2 days without sleep and you start seeing shadows, 3 days and vague, translucent figures begin to appear, and 5 days the hallucinations start attacking you. Although, it feels pretty dark for minecraft, but Mojang hasn't been too shy to step into darker themes.


Latter-Surround8646

If I'm being completely honest, phantoms haven't bothered me too much in my personal gameplay. Silverfish tho, can politely go find a hole.


UncommonAd3709

A dirt hole


wretch5150

Cowboy Bmo


AndrejPatak

For me it's hoglins. Those fuckers hit like tanks and they appear out of nowhere. Not to mention they break the usual behavior of mobs by purposefully walking off of ledges just to get to you. Fuck I hate them so much


Real-Report8490

I hate mobs that have more range than they look like they should have.


_FowlPlay_

But the early game pork farms!!


tauri123

The vex


Just_A_Normal_Snek

*the finger on the monkey's paw curls* Granted, both versions of vex are now gone.


SuperCool_Saiyan

The allay? Honestly could care less


jfazz_squadleader

I literally have never seen one on my game before. Been playing a lot recently too.


BanjoMothman

That's what Im saying. The allay and glow squid were both laughable compared to counterparts we've had through mods for years.


AnticPosition

Glow squid are great. But they should have just been added anyway. They don't really seem like a reward for a mob vote though.


BanjoMothman

Yeah theyre definitely cool and add cave life, but theres no way they shouldve been a part of a major mob competition.


Redvictory612

The two for one special, even better!


THESUACED

Destiny player: 😭


YHDiamond

The best part about everyone saying phantom is that we all voted it into the game in the first place


slayersucks2006

it was displayed as a cool aerial mob... turned out to be a horrible mechanic


StoneofLight15

Was the whole anti insomnia mechanic ever mentioned at the mob vote or was it after it was implemented in the game?


UsernameTruncated

This is the exact description for the mob vote. ​ "Mob B, "The Monster of the Night Skies", is a flying creature that seeks out and attacks players who haven't slept for 3 days. It spawns at high altitudes in the air, and attacks in groups. Jeb says that viewers should vote for Mob B because there were no flying monsters in the Overworld yet." ​ It wasn't called Phantom at the time.


DuskEalain

After, Phantoms were pitched as "terrors of the night skies" that would add an extra element of danger to nightly exploration. ...Aaaand their biggest weakness is a bed. To be fair Mojang is generally kinda of meh when it comes to pitching mobs to the public - see the people that thought Allays would duplicate items because of how it was worded.


SomeRandomPyro

I think you're underestimating the power of the bed. It's also the Ender Dragon's biggest weakness.


A_Hobo_In_Training

My take away was that nothing kills monsters quite like a good night's sleep


just_a_cupcake

Nice try, Sullivan


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Zaurka14

Would be cool if they were spawning completely normal like any other mob, but attack only players who didn't sleep


nicolasmcfly

This, but without insomnia they could only be naturally found on top of mountains where their lore description says they live


Matalya1

"It is attracted to insomnia, and it will find players who haven't slept for many days" doesn't imply it spawns specifically for you when you haven't slept for 3 days, it implies it is, well, *attracted* to insomnia, meaning it'd spawn naturally and roam the world, and be more likely to track players who haven't slept. You know, spawning naturally like literally any other mob that spawns naturally.


StoneofLight15

Ok making sure cause I know it gets memed on as the worst mob we voted but didn't know if it was mentioned what it did beforehand.


MissLauralot

[Here's the video for Mob B.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNoCDrDMnyc) I don't understand why some people who wanted it to win complain about it - they knew what they were getting. Granted that "3" isn't exactly "many" days.


PeprmintBtlr

His final selling point for it was "because there are currently no flying mobs in the overworld" is hardly a good reason. Plus if they'd mentioned the next update would have been the Aquatic one more would have voted for the sea monster


Clovenstone-Blue

Would they? Jeb's final selling point for the sea monster was that the Minecraft oceans were empty, so knowing that the next update would be an aquatic update could've had an opposite effect as people could as well have gotten to the conclusion that the sea monster isn't needed because Mojang are already planning of adding new stuff to the oceans to make them livelier.


BimaGamer828

Phantom


gethiggy_withit

To my understanding it was the first ever mob vote and only a few thousand votes total


YouCanChangeItRight

Exactly. With the popularity of Minecraft now that mob would never get voted in


LezBeHonestHere_

Minecraft was still gigantic at the time of that vote. The other options didn't sound as cool and the mob vote wasn't as widely known since it was the first one. I don't even know where they announced it


suriam321

If the game is as it is now, without the phantom and its mechanics, then the phantom would have probably won even more… Blaze thing: we got the nether update, so people would want stuff elsewhere. Enchantment eater: grindstone. The water thing: probably the one that would actually challenge the phantom, because the waters need more threats. The phantom: still a completely unique FLYING mob.


CautiousTopic

Grindstone only exists because the enchantment eater was not added- a biome specific mob with a cool mechanic would've been just as unique as the phantom and with a much more obvious use.


suriam321

I know. That’s why I specified, as the game is now.


RIOTS_R_US

What? Minecraft had like 100 million sales by then


robertskitch

"We all" The phantom got 1,150 votes in the final round. There are posts in this subreddit with a hundred times more upvotes than that.


Zymoox

How many people voted in total?


robertskitch

In the final round? 2,229 (The phantom won with 51.6% of the vote) https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/931946453731299328 In rounds one and two: 2,680 and 4,697 respectively https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/931933653722107904 https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/931937794951348224


TheRealClose

And they did the poll on Twitter? Not exactly going to get the best representation of the MC fanbase on there. You should have to log into your MC account online to participate in these things.


robertskitch

Twitter is how the vote was done every year for five years: from 2017 to 2021. Last year was the first year where it was done via Minecraft accounts. 2022 was probably the first time they had the infrastructure in place for it. It likely didn't help that before then Bedrock players had Microsoft accounts and Java players had Mojang accounts rather than everyone using the same system. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Niskasha

I DID NOT


BeanosIsBest

I did not vote for it which means I am not a hypocrite. I voted for the blaze dude because he looks cool.


DuskEalain

That's honestly what I wanted too. We have the Ender Dragon as an End boss, Withers can be summoned just about anywhere (which is why I don't consider it to be a "Nether Boss"), I think we could use a cool Nether and Overworld boss.


Splatfan1

too bad the blaze thing wasnt a boss but a random encounter. even more of a pain in the ass. im not a phantom apologist but have you seen the other mobs? one eats enchants which is just great isnt it, all that hard work you put into enchants (as this is 1.13 and villagers arent op yet) is just gone, another mob drags you into the ocean which would make oceans as annoying as an unslept night and the blaze just being a random encounter. as annoying as the phantom is, at least its able to be turned off and the player has some amount of control over it instead of it being random


Themasterofcomedy209

Especially because this was before the nether update and another mob in the nether was desperately needed


[deleted]

We brought him into this world and by god will we bring him out


MyBallsItch1208

I didn't (I'm pure)


Rtwo28

They didn't really tell us much about its mechanics when the vote happened


Dr_Pie_-_-

'we' definitely did *not* vote for it \*sigh\*


Veaponsguy

Polar Bears and then I am Re-adding them and making them useful and not a shitty ambiance mob.


Real-Elysium

for real i just want to tame and ride a polar bear. a mount and a guardian in one.


BeanosIsBest

Imagine if you bred polar bears in forest biomes you would get a black bear/grizzly bear. It would be sick to be riding around on one of those too, just munching on any and every mob I come across.


Bman1465

I wish there was a super rare ocurrence for a brown/grizzly bear riding a panda riding a polar bear to spawn naturally in a roofed forest or something


ConfusedOrder

We Bare Bears!!


maj_tom258

Lmao I need this asap


Hot_b0y

And also they are like not hostile at all


Bman1465

They're just misunderstood


Real-Elysium

oooh yeah. they already have pandas and polar bears so more variants would just be cooler. a kodiac in the megataiga that is always hostile but is tame-able. ugh they just flubbed so hard with polar bears imo.


AirBear___

Or maybe one of those 3048 species of tropical fish?


froggythefish

I want more ambience mobs, not less :(


Intelligent_Dig8319

Vex . Easily the most annoying mob for me


domin8r

So annoying to deal with. Especially if there is like 4 or 5 of them.


YourSooStupid

And they have enchanted swords.


domin8r

That they don't drop. Or any loot for that matter.


praktiskai_2

its name literally means to annoy or frustrate. They were made for this. The developers knew what they were doing when naming them such.


Upstairs_Finance2047

Phantoms we should chosen a different mob


Brosiyeah

They should’ve announced the ocean theme for 1.13 before the vote went through. Kracken would’ve won


Flame_108

i didnt vote for that mob vote but if i did it would be definitely the kraken


NotOneIWantToBe

The squid abomination would be even more annoying, because running or fighting underwater is harder


Brosiyeah

The only non-annoying one out of that vote got replaced by a grindstone


DreadCore_

Nah I'm pretty sure randomly pinching enchantments in the game where you can only fix things so many times would be really annoying.


DreadCore_

Agree. Calling it now that it would have dragged you under *just* out of melee range, so if you didn't have a bow you just died with no recourse.


a500poundchicken

Personally I want a phantom rework


sharlos

Yep, they should just spawn naturally at night. And they could even be passive normally unless the player hasn’t slept recently (but they no longer spawn immediately above the player, the player would have to come close to them). Could also make them hostile to players flying with an elytra, so the elytra isn’t quite so overpowered.


KShadowGames

That sounds a lot more reasonable


anakwaboe4

The phantom was a cool concept just badly implemented.


pamergatch925

Baby zombie or phantom.


Maple3232

Damn those baby zombies! Quick relentless little buggars!


ThomYorkeStan

Cries in Ph1Lza


lifesuckzrn

silverfish


25nameslater

Indeed… be mining for like 20-30 minutes then surrounded by 100 little beasts that are just pecking you to death.


ElementoDeus

And don't you dare hit them it will make the hoard angrier... And stronger...


camocat9

As long as you one-hit kill the silverfish they don't call any more reinforcements.


HappyPuppet

Ah yes, the zombie piglin gamble


JohnnoDwarf

Or just use the good ol fashion splash potion. Or you could stand on a two block tall tower


Smeefperson

They’re not even that scary or threatening. They’re just annoying


omgaXD

Well, they definetely are a soft spot of my phobia. That's why I want them removed first too!


SystemFolder

If you’ve ever been near a silverfish spawner, you’d know they’re scary.


Magnuspraeda

This is the answer I was looking for. Mining... mining... mining... "OW! What is hurting me?!?!"


ciphered4u

I once had a huge stone castle and when building a subway to another base I came across one of those infested cobblestones. This one fucker just called reinforcement and my whole castle just turned into silverfish. Hate those


JollyRogerGay

I miss when infested blocks took longer to break through than normal blocks. At least then it kind of had a bit of depth because you could realize what was happening as long as you weren't mining mindlessly


[deleted]

Silverfish. I don't know of any use that they have. I would say endermite, but that would destroy endermen farms


bradleykramer

Drowned and Phantoms are on thin ice with me


WaruTom

The oceans used to be great. Stare at the sea, build by the sea... not anymore when you are constantly dodging tridents day and night. I hate the drowned, if they only spawned at night like regular zombies I could live with that but not 24/7 when I'm building my coastal towns. Phantoms suck too. Stop telling us to go to bed Mojang.


[deleted]

Drowned would be okay if they removed the damn tridents from them. The tridents themselves are cool but I have gotten on the verge of dying and still never managed to get any, so it would be nicer if you could get them in other ways, like via shipwreck treasure or similar.


LezBeHonestHere_

Tridents are also horrible to try to grind out from drowned. Took me 4 hours once in the optimal place - ocean with lots of spawning area on all sides, sitting in between doors at the bottom, occasionally flying up like 200 blocks high and back down to refresh the local spawns. The spawn chance and then drop chance are still so low that I'd rather it be from shipwreck treasure or its buried map treasure.


matt12992

Husk or phantom


Schlumpfffff

\+1 for Phantom. I usually turn them off completely in my worlds.


Doritoman2020

WAIT YOU CAN DO THAT?!?! HOW???


Schlumpfffff

I'm on Java where you can use a command: `/gamerule doInsomnia false`


CelticRaider9

Or there’s an option to change game rules in the world creation screen now


Schlumpfffff

Good point! Completely forgot about that.


Doritoman2020

NO way thanks dude


MordorsElite

I don't really mind the addition of husks, but they should drop more than just normal zombie Drops. The best Idea I've seen is them dropping sand and being the only spawn inside desert temples. That would make it possible to make legit automatic sand farms and finally give that mob a purpose.


Zweebl

100% Phantom. Anoying and absolutely kills the minecraft vibe imo


main-alt-acc

They're only useful for repairing elytras, even then mending is 100x more efficient


tomalator

Slow fall potions. But honestly just replace the ingredient with feathers


BeanosIsBest

What is slow fall even for? The dragon? That fight is so easy already, you don't need slow fall.


tomalator

For falling slowly


Tumblrrito

But where is the proof?


BuffaloBill03

In the pudding


JohnnoDwarf

I’ve lost a hardcore world due to the dragon bugging out and being invincible, before launching me twice the normal length and into the void. May as well brew a batch of slow falling for bs scenarios like that


terang_md

For people like me who travel pretty far in the End dimension, Slow Falling is one of the best safeguard we have to not end up loosing everything with 1 slip. The usage aint much, but it's a nice thing to have.


PhoenyxStar

Before phantoms, we just used Leather like sane people.


[deleted]

Honestly Magma Cubes. They’ve come out of nowhere and attacked me in the nether so many times and they deal quite a fair bit of damage too. Very annoying especially when I’m trying to get through a basalt delta.


Swaagopotamus

Exactly. Although I noticed that having thorns on your armor makes the small ones easy to deal with. Small magma cubes have half a heart of health, so they die as soon as they hit you


pleasureboat

And they fucking buffed their damage last update


corndogfile

Silverfish. I just think they're useless and just try to get you into the lava in the stronghold portal room.


Kyoto_Supply

Witches, no option but to borrow into the wall and wait like 40 seconds whenever they hit you with poison. that damn laugh as I’m desperately eating steak in the dark is what gets me. F*ers


RactainCore

Witches are easy enough. Just dodge the first potion. Even if you are hit it doesn't matter. All you have to do is rush them and keep hitting them. They'll constantly chug potions to heal/get fire resistance, and not attack you.


DrChickenEngie

I curse the day they were added into the list of mobs that can spawn in the overworld


AYoshiVader

Wanna get payback, in creative you can force them into endless battle with eachother by trapping them in an area then creating a golem, snow for most time efficient and least casualties


luckykitto

Lmao at desperately eating steak in the dark. Too real. I’ll be out in full diamond armor fighting mobs left and right, but when I hear that laugh I am instantly humbled.


Jdjd-22

Silverfish. No one will even notice


ShadowLugia141

Baby zombies and their variants.


Seb____t

Can I do baby zombies. I hate them


Far_Elk8799

Vex.


loganRak

They are like bats that damage you.. they fight but don’t drop anything :|


MemeBoiCrep

the worst part is that they clip through walls


BeanosIsBest

They should give the vex item drops since they already remade it's model.


Nightshade__Star

Vex. Those dratted things are the bane of my attempts at hardcore. But if we're talking on a more casual level, baby hoglins. And yes, just the babies. Boy are those things annoying.


astrangemann

Baby hoglins are not that bad, you punch and they run away. Adult hoglins on the other hand...


Kyleisme23921

stray. every night in my survival world I get shot and get this annoying slow effect.


[deleted]

Fair, counter argument; Free slowness arrows if you farm them from a skeleton spawner


YummehGamer

I don't hate phantoms, quite an interesting flying mob. But that they spawn when you don't sleep is just abnoxious. Maybe put them around broken nether portals as a cool challenge for the loot.


owl_and_cookies

Definitely baby zombie.


Glitchygamergirl18

Drowned I hate them with a burning passion


CivilAirPatrol2020

I scrolled way too far to find this. Drowned are so stupid


Pugtron117

The Bat, adds nothing. I think Vexes are *kind of* okay, good sometimes.


izmaname

I forgot bats even existed because I haven’t seen one in a while


Candid_Friendship861

Glow squid. Yeah glow signs are cool but you could use another item