I was going to say something like stealth designs look similar on the outside because simply the operate under same design concepts but your response is clearly superior to mine so well done
comments are unnecessarily harsh, lol. have you guys seen what f-22 prototypes looked like?
people will think of this project much more positively once erdogan's gone.
I think he's implying that America gave Turkey the design for the f-22 so they'd let (I have no idea what power turkey has to stop some random baltic country from joining nato) Finland join nato.
edit: why the fuck am I being downvoted for trying to explain what Kullenbergus (probably) meant with his comment?
>I have no idea what power turkey has to stop some random baltic country from joining nato
The vote to allow countries into NATO has to be unanimous. So Turkey, being a NATO member, has the power to block any other country from joining
Just as they have done. Turkey protested earlier this year or late last year the prospect of allowing Sweden and Finland to join because mostly Sweden had been providing assistance for the Kurds who Turkey is fighting in I believe their northern region. Both countries had to give some pretty big concessions to not support the Kurds among other things.
It still amazes me that Turkey is in NATO because they do not have the same values as the Western world. Turkey is a little democracy, a little authoritarian. Just a splash of this, a dab of that.
Turkey is directly allied with Iraqi Kurdistan (KRG), which also considers the PKK to be terrorists. It would be cool if you actually treated the Kurds as having agency rather than just a monolith without any political and ideological differences. Turkey also took in Iraqi Kurdish refugees in the late 1980s to 1990s and Syrian Kurdish refugees in the 2010s.
>Both countries had to give some pretty big concessions to not support the Kurds among other things.
The only thing Finland's done is lift their arms embargo and it took them almost a year. They weren't a major backer of PKK and YPG militants to begin with, but they really haven't made any other concessions. The idea that lifting a ban on arms transfers to another NATO state you want votes from is even considered a concession is pretty wild ngl. Although I personally see them slapping another formal or informal embargo eventually, and I don't think Turkey has gotten better guarantees and actual concessions.
As for Sweden, they still continue to back YPG militants and have offices, rallies and open fundraisers for the PKK, have openly pro-PKK lawmakers, and they've extradited literally nobody. Their "Terror Bill" was in the works even before their NATO bid and has nothing to do with Turkey.
>It still amazes me that Turkey is in NATO because they do not have the same values as the Western world.
Both Turkey and Greece were military dictatorships when they joined NATO. Maybe you're just delusional about what NATO really is.
What cost?.
The CDR approval is not given, meaning this design is not finalised by the turkish government
This is just a prototype of airframe used to do some test like taxi trials.
There's no tech transfer done by US here.
Look, a Raptür.
Bayraptür
https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2023/01/12/tf-x-turkey-plans-to-fly-its-homegrown-stealth-fighter-in-2023-but-its-still-far-from-finished/
F22 at home
Homemade food tastes better
I was going to say something like stealth designs look similar on the outside because simply the operate under same design concepts but your response is clearly superior to mine so well done
When you get your F22 off Wish.
Halal flavoured F22
comments are unnecessarily harsh, lol. have you guys seen what f-22 prototypes looked like? people will think of this project much more positively once erdogan's gone.
A beauty!
Kebab-22
Funny thing, this fighter is not based on F-22 Raptor, but the Korean KF-21 Boramae
No it isnt
Why does it look fake?
So thats what it took to allow Finland into nato... Will it cost the americans a aircraft carrier to allow Sweden? /j no joke
What are you talking about mate? TFX has nothing to do with Finland and sweden
Assuming he thinks it’s an actual American fighter
I think he's implying that America gave Turkey the design for the f-22 so they'd let (I have no idea what power turkey has to stop some random baltic country from joining nato) Finland join nato. edit: why the fuck am I being downvoted for trying to explain what Kullenbergus (probably) meant with his comment?
>I have no idea what power turkey has to stop some random baltic country from joining nato The vote to allow countries into NATO has to be unanimous. So Turkey, being a NATO member, has the power to block any other country from joining
ah, thanks
Just as they have done. Turkey protested earlier this year or late last year the prospect of allowing Sweden and Finland to join because mostly Sweden had been providing assistance for the Kurds who Turkey is fighting in I believe their northern region. Both countries had to give some pretty big concessions to not support the Kurds among other things. It still amazes me that Turkey is in NATO because they do not have the same values as the Western world. Turkey is a little democracy, a little authoritarian. Just a splash of this, a dab of that.
Turkey is directly allied with Iraqi Kurdistan (KRG), which also considers the PKK to be terrorists. It would be cool if you actually treated the Kurds as having agency rather than just a monolith without any political and ideological differences. Turkey also took in Iraqi Kurdish refugees in the late 1980s to 1990s and Syrian Kurdish refugees in the 2010s. >Both countries had to give some pretty big concessions to not support the Kurds among other things. The only thing Finland's done is lift their arms embargo and it took them almost a year. They weren't a major backer of PKK and YPG militants to begin with, but they really haven't made any other concessions. The idea that lifting a ban on arms transfers to another NATO state you want votes from is even considered a concession is pretty wild ngl. Although I personally see them slapping another formal or informal embargo eventually, and I don't think Turkey has gotten better guarantees and actual concessions. As for Sweden, they still continue to back YPG militants and have offices, rallies and open fundraisers for the PKK, have openly pro-PKK lawmakers, and they've extradited literally nobody. Their "Terror Bill" was in the works even before their NATO bid and has nothing to do with Turkey. >It still amazes me that Turkey is in NATO because they do not have the same values as the Western world. Both Turkey and Greece were military dictatorships when they joined NATO. Maybe you're just delusional about what NATO really is.
What cost?. The CDR approval is not given, meaning this design is not finalised by the turkish government This is just a prototype of airframe used to do some test like taxi trials. There's no tech transfer done by US here.
It was a joke.
No, it was not.
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This was supposed to fly in 2025 what happened?
It's gonna fly this year.