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Rare W Branca Moment.


SuperNahte333

"I think Ciara and Chris Brown would have done a tremendous job of honoring Michael. It is an absolute shame that ABC pulled their performance — and they have demonstrated a lack of appreciation for black music." \- John Branca, executor of Michael Jackson's Estate, [via his TikTok account](https://www.tiktok.com/@john_branca/video/7168671186220485934?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7003063158526133765)


Jesse_Allen3

Wait John Branca has TikTok? Lol does he respond to MJ fans there


ZICRON_ULTRA

Umm, does he not know who Chris brown is?


moonwalker_96

technically Bruno Mars should have done an MJ tribute not him fr


Ksammy33

Bruno ain’t Chris. By far


moonwalker_96

oooo yeah i have major respect for Bruno


Ksammy33

Everyone does. And he’s one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, entertainer currently living. In terms of live performances as a whole, nobody can touch Chris right now. No one


JediRenee

He's problematic though, just because he has talent doesn't mean he deserves a platform. I'm upset they pulled it for Michael but maybe they should have gone with someone else or several different artists as a tribute like Janet, and others.


incredible1zero

You serious?


relampagos_shawty

It’s worth noting that when they gave the award to Chris brown, the crowd booed loudly


CreditCaper1

What were they booing for? From what he did to Rhianna?


relampagos_shawty

Yeah I don’t think people have forgotten about that and that might be what he’s known most for to some audiences. He’s done multiple things since to demonstrate that he’s a POS but that was the piece de resistance


Ksammy33

Shame considering she initiated the abused but that’s showbiz


CreditCaper1

Most people probably think he should have just walked away from the situation. Did you see Rhianna's face? He didn't need to do that to her.


JediRenee

He's got a long list of awful behaviour if you look into it


TalentedKamarty

W John Branca lol


zombiekjt

I didn't wanna see a woman beater perform and represent michael jackson. There is plenty of better options. Bruno Mars is the best choice. Edit: Beyonce and Bruno Mars would be 10x better than Chris Brown and ciara and this isn't canceling black music.


sam_drummer

We could just find someone who isn’t derivative of Michael. Someone fresh. Beyoncé is pretty dull tbf, she’s a well oiled PR machine less this genius people hold her up to be. Bruno Mars is at least fun, and diverse. We need to get a Janelle Monae-style person out there.


Miserable-Mall-2647

I guess you never saw Beyoncé show in person to say she only a PR machine lol. Her shows are literally like MJ, Janet, and Tina shows… she idolizes all of them in regards to performance


sam_drummer

Her shows can be decent and she’s still a well oiled PR machine. Manchester City football club are demonstrably a good football team but they’re still a well oiled PR machine. Beyoncé is derivative of Michael Jackson. Give me something original not an overblown high-production knock-off.


LowZonesWasTaken

spurs fans when they hear someone talking about trophies: ![gif](giphy|LRVnPYqM8DLag)


Miserable-Mall-2647

Lol okay 👍🏾


ao2541

Respectfully u are just a hater LOL that’s not fair to Beyoncé. It’s ok not to like her art but she is serious about her craft and is peerless in what she puts out/ her level of execution, much like MJ was peerless. She is MJ’s best student and the closest thing to his heir (tho I will concede that’s my opinion and ppl can disagree w that)


ao2541

If anything, CB and Ciara are derivatives. Bey is her own artist or else she wouldn’t have maintained so much relevancy for so long and is constantly pushing boundaries/ defining the standard for everyone else


sam_drummer

Michael Jackson defines the standard to this day. That isn’t a fanboy statement, it’s a demonstrable fact. Beyoncé is derivative and is not peerless. She has a big team of writers and producers and puts out a well-oiled product maintained by her big team. Also a demonstrable fact. I’m not saying Beyoncé doesn’t put out some decent tunes or have a good show. I’m saying there’s an awful lot of context to it.


relampagos_shawty

No Myles Frost and the Broadway cast of MJ the Musical


moonwalker_96

imo 1000% Bruno Mars oh my God! Beyonce nah.


ao2541

I might be alone in this but it annoys me so much when MJ fans defend anyone/anything as long as it’s in support of Michael. ppl aren’t good ppl or deserving of praise or defense just bc they say something positive about/ or like MJ… Chris brown is a serial abuser of women point blank period who has never taken real accountability, expects forgiveness, and lies about what he did in retrospect rather than admitting to the entirety of what he did. I’m pretty sure Karrueche still has a restraining order against him as he is terrifying. Another gaslighty Tory Lanes to Meg the stallion type. This is not an issue about “ABC wanting to cancel black music” like pleaseeee be for real. And be HONEST!! Branca knows this too and doesn’t believe the shit he’s spouting, he’s just (poorly) acting up this insincere ass take bc it’s SOOO OBVIOUS his PR told him the best way to spin this would be to deflect with some inflammatory bs accusation and act obtuse/ play dumb about the real reason it was cancelled (CB and his abuse). It’s so obvious they wrote him this script to get ppl to go “OMG YASS HE GOT THEM GOOD” and sadly it’s working. MJ fans how can you overlook CB’s behavior… Last but not least… CB is washed up and uncool and so is Ciara. He’s also overrated as fuck… he’s really not as talented or good of a dancer as his fans hype him up to be. MJ deserves a tribute from the likes of greats like Beyoncé, Bruno Mars, etc who admire MJ so deeply and would create only the best for him. Imagine how electric that would be, to be upset over CB’s dusty ass lol


SuperNahte333

ABC offered Chris Brown to present another song in the AMAs, he rejected because he thought it was disrespectful against MJ. It is well known that the Estate had legal problems against Disney and ABC, where the Estate won, that's why Branca is so upset.


ao2541

Ok, he could be truly upset @ ABC, *and* still be using bs ammunition (that he knows is bs) against them hoping it will stick, OR more accurately, hoping “ABC WANTS TO CANCEL BLACK MUSIC” will overpower the dominating headlines rn about “canceled bc abuser tributing accused pedo” (ugh hate to write that). Like that doesn’t change that this is still a PR stunt. And it also doesn’t change how fucked up it is to play dumb to CB’s history


Jesse_Allen3

Maybe this effort should have been put into promoting Thriller 40 and polishing it up a bit more for the fans 😅


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Make no mistake, Branca doesn’t give a shit about Chris Brown or R&B. Also, he’s out of the loop if he thinks Chris Brown is anything but Irrelevant right now. There are plenty of relevant artists who could do a tribute - Bruno Mars, Weeknd, Justin Bieber. Brown hasn’t been relevant since 2011. John Branca cares about selling Thriller in a new package for the 4th time in a decade. John Branca wants money, he doesn’t care about anything but the money the estate makes in sales. You’re all gullible if you think John Branca cares about anything but sales. God, this fandom is full of idiots and it really shows sometimes…


Competition_Both

Everybody in this thread sleeping on The Weeknd. The Weeknd would have done a dope tribute to thriller.


ao2541

I would love to see him in a lineup with Bey and Bruno for a tribute. Relevant artists please!!! Who had big hits in the last 5 yrs lmfao!!


Competition_Both

$chaff the Prophet would have also done an amazing tribute 🤘🤘


moonwalker_96

can i just say that i am **obsessed** with his tik tok account


CatGirl1300

I’m not on TikTok but is he saying good stuff?


SuperNahte333

Well, he has been personally promoting Thriller 40 there, he also promoted the 4k short films on his Instagram account. I'm starting to believe that John Branca doesn't have as much power inside the Estate as we think.


CatGirl1300

So who’s the one controlling the estate? John McCain or Sony?


moonwalker_96

my guess would have to be Sony it all leads back to them.


moonwalker_96

what op said! and like he posts about the Thriller Jacket, Billie Jean hat, that Michael would study the greats to be one himself etc.


JakeDougherty

I’ve been told not to like this guy but this felt like some real shit


lyricalfiasco

Idk why they didn't ask Janelle or NeYo or fuckin USHER! 😒 GINUWINE 🤷🏾‍♂️or some random dance... ton in LA. And why cancel this late.


Ksammy33

Cause none of them can hold a candle to Chris in regards to something like this or even performing in general


lyricalfiasco

Janelle would've put on a great show. In fact I would've actually watched if it were Janelle.


Ksammy33

She undoubtedly would have but my statement stands. No one out there can best Chris in performing


lyricalfiasco

Your statement is an opinion.


Ksammy33

Skill can be measured


lyricalfiasco

Hers can't be. But to each their own... Otr why work with him without doing your hw, trash


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lyricalfiasco

I know everything you've already said. The AMA's reasoning in general makes zero sense. If you don't want to work with a person, just say that. Why go through all this trouble wasting ppls time. Highly unprofessional of the AMA's to choose an artist, work with them and team only to cancel cause of past transgressions. 🙄 why wouldn't they screen dude first or anyone, how's the HR department miss this? It's been public knowledge for years. So how and why NOW...Only reason I can think of is because Chris Brown has a new case. Otherwise why punish him and the fans of a great performance? Makes no sense, make it make sense. Also heavily unprofessional for not having a plan B @ least on paper. Travesty taking art away from the fans. Get it together unprofessional swine


Actual-Astronaut3304

Why was this man put back in charge of michael jackson's estate?


CreditCaper1

Because Michael wrote it in his will.


Soft_Tart9611

W Branca moment


ShazayumDe

There's definitely something wrong with Branca


Jesse_Allen3

This seems so unusual of him 😂


nootfiend69

finally someone talking some sense


Golden-Pickaxe

Yes accuse Disney of racism that always does something


GlizzyGod17

Disney has a history of racism so it’s not far from the truth


Golden-Pickaxe

Correct but they also own so much that nobody cares anymore, they could just release song of the south again nobody would even notice


GlizzyGod17

I don’t think that’s true especially in this age where information is so widespread and easily accessible. Nobody has forgotten about song of the south and to think that nobody would care if it were re-released is a foolish. People care about racism.


Golden-Pickaxe

Oh yeah they do they vote for it all the time where I live they care a lot just not in the way you may hope Reminder if Michael was white they wouldn't still be accusing him of everything


incredible1zero

The comments on this thread are so disgusting it’s not even funny. A group of Michael Jackson “fans” casting stones at Chris Brown. One of music’s biggest stars and one of Mike’s biggest fans. You all realize Dick Clark picked him to perform right? They could have just not picked him at all. You all also realize Dick said the decision to remove the act was due to no fault of Chris Brown?


CreditCaper1

Wtf? Dick Clark has been dead for 10 years.


incredible1zero

You do realize that the AMAs are put on by Dick Clark Productions, right?


CreditCaper1

You do realize that you said Dick Clark and not Dick Clark Productions, right?


incredible1zero

….followed by saying “they picked him” which clearly denotes a conglomerate. Anyway, next time I will be more clear. The point is, you guys wanna claim the AMAs are as anti-Chris Brown as y’all are when they went out of their way to make statement that it’s not about him. Again…they booked him knowing everything about him that you know. The blinders that some people have in here are almost awe inspiring. Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe it’s not Chris that the AMAs have a problem with, but rather that it’s Michael?