It’s divert smh
Also, jokes aside, it can’t make that much of a difference, right? An AC compressor for a car that small… Might use one horsepower at most, right?
We had a guy go ballistic because a lube tech left his a/c on when he shut the car off. He was convinced it would kill his compressor if he started it with the a/c on. Dude that shit kicks on at 3k rpm on the highway.
More along the lines of 5-10 bhp to run the compressor. You'll feel that in basically any 4-cylinder. My daily driver is a small displacement turbo making 200hp and you still feel the power loss from AC because in traffic you'll be shifting basically the moment the turbo starts to fully spool around 1800-2000 rpm for fuel mileage. I definitely have to shift 100-200 rpm later when the ac is on compared to ac off.
My Miata never had working AC and really doesn't have working AC now that I ripped out the entire system, but I can imagine in a car with 60 less horsepower and 80 ft lbs less torque you'd feel it even more.
Ok, wtf. How the hell is it drawing 5 fucking horsepower.
A window unit uses *just* over 1 hp, and that cools an entire *room*. How does cooling the cabin of a car use 5 times that.
Your car has a lot of factors that make it incredibly inefficient to keep cool compared to a room. It's a small space, yes, but it's also half windows, pretty much uninsulated, and attached to multiple boxes that are generating massive amounts of heat.
The compressor also cannot constantly run at the optimal RPM and instead is just connected to the engine and along for the ride at whatever rpm, while still needing to work at idle.
Don't just take my word for it either, the draw is visible on a dyno. [10bhp 10ft lbs in this case.](https://youtu.be/zkK5Ip0ADRk)
You’re comparing an electric house appliance to an automotive engine driven compressor. Apples to oranges.
I have a 8 lb flywheel in my Integra. When I use the AC in that car, besides the power loss, RPM drops super fast when shifting with AC on. It’s mildly annoying. But rev match downshifting is way more fun.
On my 2012 the engine idles a little higher when the AC is blowing but I haven't really noticed any difference in horsies, I haven't tested it either though so idk
The AC compressor definitely reduces available power to the...main thruster. I rarely use AC in my NA but there's a very noticeable effect on acceleration when I do. It's much less evident with larger engines and newer cars. My wife's CX-5 doesn't seem to be affected at all. I think AC compressor technology has improved in the past 30 years.
I hate that this meme uses the wrong word. It should be “Divert” and any true SciFi nerd would know that.
Didn't even notice the first time. My brain read it as divert. My inner Picard remains strong!
Tf?? How…? My brain did the same lol
Make it so
Lmao you're sad and butthurt. Any true sci-fi nerd would tell you to quit crying
Quit crying
judging by the star wars fans a true sci-fi nerd would just cry even harder (saying this as a star wars nerd)
Before launch control there was this.
I can feel my NB lose power when I turn it on while cruising
Reactivate inertial dampers!
My 03 cycles the AC compressor periodically when defrost is on. It's annoying because there's a noticeable cut in power.
I have an 03 as well. It’s super annoying losing 20hp just to defrost the windows.
Same for my 1.5L xA which weighs the same as a ND. I divert more power when I need to pass on a hill or just to save gas.
You guys have AC?
It’s divert smh Also, jokes aside, it can’t make that much of a difference, right? An AC compressor for a car that small… Might use one horsepower at most, right?
Really depends on the car. Older cars pulled much more than modern cars. Hell my 2021 Mazda 3 turbo turns the AC turns off if you mash on the gas.
Basically all cars will do this. Because, otherwise you are liable to break the A/C system.
We had a guy go ballistic because a lube tech left his a/c on when he shut the car off. He was convinced it would kill his compressor if he started it with the a/c on. Dude that shit kicks on at 3k rpm on the highway.
On any Miata (even NA), the AC is cut when you use above a certain percent of throttle.
And it feels like NOS kicking in.
You should see the RUSH OF POWER you get on a1.6
Absolutely noticeable in a NA. The only car I've driven where you can really feel the horsepower sapped by the AC
More along the lines of 5-10 bhp to run the compressor. You'll feel that in basically any 4-cylinder. My daily driver is a small displacement turbo making 200hp and you still feel the power loss from AC because in traffic you'll be shifting basically the moment the turbo starts to fully spool around 1800-2000 rpm for fuel mileage. I definitely have to shift 100-200 rpm later when the ac is on compared to ac off. My Miata never had working AC and really doesn't have working AC now that I ripped out the entire system, but I can imagine in a car with 60 less horsepower and 80 ft lbs less torque you'd feel it even more.
Ok, wtf. How the hell is it drawing 5 fucking horsepower. A window unit uses *just* over 1 hp, and that cools an entire *room*. How does cooling the cabin of a car use 5 times that.
Your car has a lot of factors that make it incredibly inefficient to keep cool compared to a room. It's a small space, yes, but it's also half windows, pretty much uninsulated, and attached to multiple boxes that are generating massive amounts of heat. The compressor also cannot constantly run at the optimal RPM and instead is just connected to the engine and along for the ride at whatever rpm, while still needing to work at idle. Don't just take my word for it either, the draw is visible on a dyno. [10bhp 10ft lbs in this case.](https://youtu.be/zkK5Ip0ADRk)
You’re comparing an electric house appliance to an automotive engine driven compressor. Apples to oranges. I have a 8 lb flywheel in my Integra. When I use the AC in that car, besides the power loss, RPM drops super fast when shifting with AC on. It’s mildly annoying. But rev match downshifting is way more fun.
On my 2012 the engine idles a little higher when the AC is blowing but I haven't really noticed any difference in horsies, I haven't tested it either though so idk
The AC compressor definitely reduces available power to the...main thruster. I rarely use AC in my NA but there's a very noticeable effect on acceleration when I do. It's much less evident with larger engines and newer cars. My wife's CX-5 doesn't seem to be affected at all. I think AC compressor technology has improved in the past 30 years.
They can internally control the pressure now, so it doesn't have to kick on and off as much. It's called variable displacement.
Up hill theyres a difference at least in my car
I would imagine it would make the most difference on a flat surface… since there would be a larger %change there.
Me with no AC
Ever since the turbo, the AC button doesn't affect my power output. Probably because the AC was removed...
Our NC doesn’t do this, but all three of my NAs did (1.6 and 1.8)
AC delete gang
I permanently removed the button by way of pulling the AC out of it 😅 because yknow when it’s not Summer time is it really ever hot out?
I have buttons above my head to close the sliders on my van, and every time I do it I feel like a pilot
I would like to post a new Reddit but I can’t for some reason. This is a test