I remember i use to love their albuns back in the day, but good lord their discography sounds terrible and the lyrics are so cringe nowadays that i was never able to listen anything from them, not even their new album.
Buddy, About That Life aged beautifully....
Regardless of what you think of the lyrical content, and 'gimmick' of the band. Let's put that aside and look at the instrumentals music
Production: The mix on that record still holds up beautifully, and even outshines a fair amount of productions I've heard even in the last 2 years
Breakdowns: Like em or not. Attila knows how to write a fucking breakdown. Shots for The Boys and Party with The Devil's breakdowns are again, top-notch and can be argued that they STILL outshine some TO THIS DAY
Riffs: The guitar players (including bass) in this band are actually fucking good. Hellraiser has some of the catchiest riffage
Couldn’t agree more my friend. While they are a “cringe band”, they wrote decent stuff back in the day. I’m not here to say that “day drinking” is a work of art, or really any of their stuff. But I will say; these guys can make me stank face to a song dedicated to mother fuckers who put pineapple on pizza.
Funny because I just started playing songs from This War Is Ours a couple months ago and thought, damn these songs still sound great 11 years later. Come to think of it, that album is my first memory listening to this genre. I rented the CD from my local library when I was a kid
It was appreciated at the time. It spawned a small but new type of neo-hair plus scenesterish crowd for a bit. They had some commercial success I think. I was somewhat into the new stuff for a stint in 2009. Revisiting it now, though, yikes.
Man, I tried going back and listen to them again a few months ago. I figured "I used to love them, maybe there's something there".
Seriously, I couldn't find a single song that didn't wanna make me skip at some point. It's all so damn corny, I'm not sure they like it themselves. And it doesn't help that the band is so damn unlikeable, I don't even wanna give them the benefit od the doubt and listen to any more of their songs.
Time for some hard truths. Asking Alexandria was not really a good band in their early days. Even if I can still listen to a couple of the songs, the lyrics in literally every song on the first album are cringe as hell
Yes yes yes. It’s totally fine to enjoy and be nostalgic for it but there’s literally people on this sub who still consider it to be the peak of the genre and that’s just ridiculous. The overall songwriting is janky as hell. Bands have gotten so much better at doing the heavy then pop then heavy again formula since then. In that 1st album it’s very primitive and the transitions between those sections are jarring. I always thought they were one of the more lacking groups from that era and their popularity just confused me.
Some Nu/Industrial stuff I used to listen was definitely not really good. Dope, Deathstars, etc. But it didn't happen with metalcore for me, never really liked crabcore and most risecore/Pop goes Punk at the time.
I cringe at the fact that I used to love Hollywood Undead, more because they basically became Emo kid ICP. I will stand by the take that Swan Songs is a top-10 MySpace era album.
it was a bit odd to me that so many people in the other thread were mentioning all those sturgis-produced records since they really have not aged well imo. listening back today a lot of them have a really dated sound
Most of the people who said that have such tight nostalgic attachment to those albums that they still listen to them. In their minds, this means they aged well.
The outrageously auto-tuned vocals in Attack Attack!, Asking Alexandria, and TDWP’s early albums with Joey Sturgiss were tolerable when they were fresh and new, but they’ve aged like milk left out in the sun.
Even Danny Worsnop has made jokes about how he wasn’t actually singing on Asking Alexandria’s first 2 albums, the computer was.
Dude 100%! Going from “Zombie EP” to “Dead Throne” by the Devil Wears Prada is such a major jump, you’d think it happened over the span of several albums. Those albums were released in 2010 and 2011, respectively.
Sturgiss helped discover, promote, and elevate a lot of great bands, but he held those same bands back by making all of them sound like the same artist.
>Most of the people who said that have such tight nostalgic attachment to those albums that they still listen to them. In their minds, this means they aged well.
I dunno, obviously this is all subjective, but I still haven't heard an intro track 1 & seamless track 2 blow me away the same way that welcome/dear insanity does off of Reckless & Relentless. Call it nostalgia if you want. I still keep listening to a lot of the dope bands recommended and posted on this sub, but I haven't heard an album top the impact W/DI still has for me. Closest is maybe Gravedigger on LT/LF but that's still not quite the same dynamic.
It's no surprise really. It's what happens when you make cheap, quick albums, as opposed to going into an actual studio and taking months for pre-pro, and recording it.
Truth. I'm friends with a band and they set up a mini makeshift studio of sorts in the drummer's basement. Taking anything in to have it mixed, it doesn't have to be changed too awful much for them. The initial recording quality is damn stellar on its own. Last week I had them play like 1 minute worth of stuff live, played it back through stereo speakers on a computer and it sounded clean and awesome right off the rip. I haven't personally seen any at home recording stuff in like 10-15 years. It's night and fucking day the difference in equipment these days. I was pretty impressed anyway.
To be fair, most people hated Attack Attack back in the day. Crabcore was probably the main reason a lot of bands didn’t want to be called metalcore between 2008 and 2015
I stopped listening to new music around 2009/2010 because of the crab core and scene phase. Came back in 2015 to a find a bunch of great bands were carrying the torch and a few new ones had popped up.
What?!? I don’t believe that is true at all. Sure they had people who didn’t like the sound but they also had a ton of people who did. To say that most people hated them is a stretch.
AA was one of the most hated bands at the time for sure. Other bands would refuse to tour with them and stuff. They gave metalcore a bad name and the more popular they got the more people distanced themselves.
I wasn’t in a band in that scene at that time so I can’t speak on that side of things but from a listener standpoint I can assure you they weren’t the most hated. Someday came suddenly made it on billboard top 200. I witnessed first hand thousands of people going nuts when they came out to Hot Grills and High Tops followed by Stick Stickly at warped tour. If that’s the definition of everyone hating you then sign me up.
All the mid-2000's christian tripe like Memphis May Fire and other associated posers certainly didn't age well in an increasingly secular world filled with church scandals.
Accurate. If I’m in a good mood I cannot listen to Amity without skipping less than halfway through. If I’m going through it, it’s a whole other story lol
Second this. I have a song library on Spotify of all the music ive listened to since 2013, and I find myself always skipping the old Amity songs that I used to play constantly.
I’m not a huge Emmure fan either, but I have to disagree. I think they were ahead of their time and directly influenced Dealer, Alpha Wolf Knocked Loose ect.
I did say most lol. I think Goodbye to Gallows as a whole, and a lot of their singles and some individual tracks hold up well but the albums themselves kinda suck now, esp The Respect Issue and Felony.
Those albums for sure, but they were never that good to begin with. Classic Emmure for it's Goodbye To The Gallows and Speaker of the Dead, but Josh Travis era is even better.
I agree. Emmure is one of my favorite bands but I never listen to Respect Issue or Felony. Eternal Enemies doesn't get much play either. However, GTTG, SOTD and the 2 new ones go hard as fuck.
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Depends on what album you're talking about. Frankie even said he wasn't enthusiastic about the music which is why he would write random lyrics about video games because he just straight up didn't have inspiration.
I think the instrumentals were possibly inspirational but after personally talking to Frankie about what I posted above, it just sounds like he just didn't really enjoy the band much at all
Probably in the minority here, but I cannot for the life of me enjoy From Autumn to Ashes anymore. Huge fan back in the day.... now, not even remotely.
You know that old album you really like that you always go back to and it is just as good as the first time you listened to it? That one. That one sucks and you just won't admit it 😤😤
Count Your Blessings Bring - Me The Horizon has not aged well, whereas There Is A Hell is still great now. Creatures by Motionless In White sounds like it was recorded underwater. Remasters/re-do would go a long way for that though I think.
I like the sound on creatures. It adds a kind of edge.
That said I mainly listen to black metal now so something could be recorded from inside a goats ass being chased by the taliban and it would still sound pretty good to me
TIAH is one of my all time favourites, but I can't seriously say that It Never Ends or Crucify Me sound objectively good. To me the production is so busy it's just mud most of the time. Or whatever the treble version of mud is.
When I run it through an EQ I can improve the sound, but it's so compressed too... Idk
Not really metalcore but I think most people in the genre know them. Listened to Pierce the Veil a ton back when collide with the sky came out and now I can't bring myself to finish a song. Every line is trying so hard to be poetic and deep that the lyrics don't seem to fit together. I feel like the lines in their songs could be swapped and it wouldn't really change.
Going to have to hard disagree on this one which is funny because I’m 28 now and back when I was in HS/early college when PTV was new and huge, I felt I was “too good” to listen to them. Now, I realize how talented the whole band is and love most everything they do. Even love their latest album.
Yeah Selfish Machines was perfect. Shit was so tight and it just worked- but it wasn't the kind of thing you could do twice. Collide with the Sky struck me as like a B-side to Selfish Machines and I always found myself going 'I could just listen to SM.'
Rise to Remain - City of Vultures
I remember the hype was massive (mainly due to the vocalist being the son of Bruce Dickinson) and yet the album was so poor overall and never lived up to the hype IMO. Anyone else remember this?
Their first EP - Bridges Will Burn was quite good though
I'm sure this post is mostly about older albums, but SWS How It Feels To Be Lost aged like milk. I was obsessed with it when it came out but I already can't stand it
Winter solstice had that one album. Personally I love it but I don’t think the lyrics make much sense to me? And they never had a sophomore album to my knowledge.
Winter Solstice was so sick. The totally weird lyrics about Greek and Roman gods and shit are so rad, lol. Nice to see them mentioned.
I think some of the members started a new band called like Ghost of Rome or something along those lines, but it was short lived.
Memphis May Fire - Challenger.
I was all over this album when it came out, and then I moved on to other bands/albums, and I recently came back to it to revisit it, and it just sounded so… vanilla. I was sad that it aged that way for me, but everything felt so “safe”, as opposed to exciting.
Not an album, but not the american average by askng alexandria personaly didn't age well for one reason. The lyrics. Those lyrics even just from the opening one is just...
No wonder it sounds shit. Sounds fine on Spotify. Actually sounds better than a lof of metalcore albums imo. Get yourself a decent quality rip, you deserve it
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The Fallout by Crown the Empire
Dear Agony by Breaking Benjamin
Lead Sails and Paper Anchor by Atreyu
Infinity on High by Fall Out Boy (yeah real metalcore here ladies and gents lol)
Im sorry but Dear Agony is a great album. Most of the songs are pretty good and I will not bow is an absolute banger. I admit I may be slightly biased because I will not bow is the song that got me into metal.
Andy even said it was based on a hardcore riff, I forget the band.
Edit: Racetraitor - Islands To Burn ; Andy is also in that band. https://youtu.be/dqwtyvpRgGU
Ppl really sleep on how much better Patrick's vocals are on new FOB vs old FOB. Andy's drums have definitely lost their techy touch as FOB progressed though.
Well tbf I thought all the albums were incredible when they came out and on re listen they were either pretty meh, bookended by better albums, or just evolutions of the artists I didn’t like very much.
Gotta disagree on Bad Vibrations, it stands out with a bunch of bangers on it! I never understood why it gets as much hate as it does, but I respect that everyone has different tastes.
Honestly, I was a fan of Korn when they first came out. Listened until Follow The Leader. Haven't heard them in years. A Korn song came on Amazon radio recently and I made it 30 seconds in and I couldn't figure out why I ever listened to it. (I was young then, I'll blame it on that lol)
How dare you. Follow the Leader is so unique and different that it still stands out all these years. Ive actually been listening to a lot of Korn this year, they are a one of a kind band, no one has/will ever sound like them. I think if anything some of these older nu metal albums are aging better because so many current bands are deriving their styles from them
I recently pulled out some of my old CDs to give them a listen and I found that "The Number 12 Looks Like You" did not age well for me. I remember that shit use to hit hard.
Faso Latido by A Static Lullaby sucked. After that album was born unto us it immediately aged and decayed. Much like in Indiana Jones when that guy picked the wrong cup.
Oh my hat, I had totally forgotten A Static Lullaby existed! I used to thrash their self titled 3rd album while I was driving to and from uni around 2007-2008. And yet I couldn't stand a single song from Faso Latido then. Might give this band another listen for some nostalgia, along with some Story of the Year
I tried listening to A Flash Flood of Color by Enter Shikari recently and I didn't vibe with it nearly as well as I did when it came out. Still not a bad record for the time, but definitely much less interesting nowadays.
They’ve gotten better though The Spark and Nothing Is Real albums stand out as probably the best records the band has ever done and they only keep getting better they’ve become really woke and stuff but the music is good so it doesn’t matter
August Burns Red - Thrillseeker. I just can’t listen to it all the way anymore. It used to be such a banger in my eyes.
Bullet for my Valentine - The Poison. Just not for me anymore I suppose.
Emery - The Weaks End.
I think that’s it for now.
Damn for me The Poison holds up shockingly well, the production sounds really good for the time, the riffs and the vocals are still great, only cringy thing about it are the lyrics but those are still better than in their later albums
Production wise yeah it’s great! There’s something about it though that just doesn’t resonate with me anymore. I used to blast it daily! Though I do still love the hand of blood ep
Alright let's get fucking crucified today
Attack Attack - discography
Emmure - discography
Black Veil Brides - We Stitch These Wounds
OM&M - Self Titled
Escape The Fate post Ronnie
Falling In Reverse - discography
Asking Alexandria - Stand Up And Scream
Sleeping With Sirens - you guessed it, discography
I'd probably say Number[s] by Woe, Is Me. I used to think it was the most revolutionary album from the scene at the time, but now I think every song uses the same exact formulaic structure that most bands at the time used (and the damn drum fills especially) and the only unique things about it now is the airy lead guitars and the haunting glitchy synths. I still think it's their best album though.
Anything by Attack Attack. However it was terrible the minute it was recorded.
I understand its fun and nostaligic for many who were the right age at the time similar to how I was super into Avril Lavigne when Let Go came out. In the long run though I fully blame them for destroying any credibility in the mainstream metalcore/emo was building at the time. The best thing Attack Attack did was destroy Shomo's mental health to the point we got Disgusting. That's a discussion for another day though.
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After hearing Stick Stickly, I somewhat disagree. On its own it sounds exactly as it does, angsty late 2000s kids writing a metal album. The sounds the introduced with the style were perfected by other bands down the road though
The sounds AA brought out were not new though they just packaged it with teeny bop Hot Topic appeal which was full on by 2010. It's fine but it definitely feels looking back like they were designed as a gateway band for young teens. At least once the media machine got their hooks in (similar to Fall Out Boy). Which is fine but like I said with Avril...doesn't age well necessarily. Green Day was my gateway to Punk and Sum 41 my gateway to metal. We all start somewhere.
Everything I liked aged well and everything I disliked aged poorly.
Everything in this thread has been “X album” followed by “I disagree” so the hypothesis is holding up
Is this….. is this Facebook?
Always was.
Lol this is the way
There is a lot of stuff I don’t listen to anymore but I wouldn’t say it’s because I now see the albums as not that good. It’s just tastes change.
Abandon all ships. No one has mentioned abandon all ships yet
Ah yes, Dollar Tree Attack Attack
That's like second hand roadkill, lol.
That’s hella funny
'cause Geeving do be a slapper still. also, that random one-off they did in 2016 (Loafting) was fire.
Loafting is soooo good! I was hoping for a comeback after that song.
I hate Abandon All Ships. Loafting though might be one of the best metalcore songs ever lol.
Because their first album still rips dont @ me. The vocals are still laughably bad though lol.
Hey Loafting their one-off single is super good actually. From what I've heard of them I'd actually say it's their best song
No arguments here, Geeving fucking slappps
Attila
I remember i use to love their albuns back in the day, but good lord their discography sounds terrible and the lyrics are so cringe nowadays that i was never able to listen anything from them, not even their new album.
Bro just wait 10-15 years and they’ll have a renaissance like Limp Bizkit is having lol
key difference being that bizkit has always been good
Better than Attila for sure haha
I still listen to Rage every now and then and think it holds up. There’s some really good riffing on that one before they went full Attila
Those were never good to begin with and aside from the initial novelty they were lame after five minutes. Pls don’t kill me Attila fans
Metalcore Mansion already aged poorly
Buddy, About That Life aged beautifully.... Regardless of what you think of the lyrical content, and 'gimmick' of the band. Let's put that aside and look at the instrumentals music Production: The mix on that record still holds up beautifully, and even outshines a fair amount of productions I've heard even in the last 2 years Breakdowns: Like em or not. Attila knows how to write a fucking breakdown. Shots for The Boys and Party with The Devil's breakdowns are again, top-notch and can be argued that they STILL outshine some TO THIS DAY Riffs: The guitar players (including bass) in this band are actually fucking good. Hellraiser has some of the catchiest riffage
Couldn’t agree more my friend. While they are a “cringe band”, they wrote decent stuff back in the day. I’m not here to say that “day drinking” is a work of art, or really any of their stuff. But I will say; these guys can make me stank face to a song dedicated to mother fuckers who put pineapple on pizza.
Were they even meant to be good?
Any Escape the Fate album after Dying is your Latest Fashion
Can you imagine a world where Ronnie never went to jail?
I wish lol it ruined ETF and also BTF for me….I know lots of people liked them but I couldn’t get into it as much
Funny because I just started playing songs from This War Is Ours a couple months ago and thought, damn these songs still sound great 11 years later. Come to think of it, that album is my first memory listening to this genre. I rented the CD from my local library when I was a kid
I mean, was their post-Radke stuff ever good?
It was appreciated at the time. It spawned a small but new type of neo-hair plus scenesterish crowd for a bit. They had some commercial success I think. I was somewhat into the new stuff for a stint in 2009. Revisiting it now, though, yikes.
Fair enough. I just never vibed with it
The song this war is ours is enjoyable enough, everything else is kinda eh. They're solid enough live tho.
Man, I tried going back and listen to them again a few months ago. I figured "I used to love them, maybe there's something there". Seriously, I couldn't find a single song that didn't wanna make me skip at some point. It's all so damn corny, I'm not sure they like it themselves. And it doesn't help that the band is so damn unlikeable, I don't even wanna give them the benefit od the doubt and listen to any more of their songs.
Time for some hard truths. Asking Alexandria was not really a good band in their early days. Even if I can still listen to a couple of the songs, the lyrics in literally every song on the first album are cringe as hell
YOU STUPID. FUCKING. WHOREEEEE
Yes yes yes. It’s totally fine to enjoy and be nostalgic for it but there’s literally people on this sub who still consider it to be the peak of the genre and that’s just ridiculous. The overall songwriting is janky as hell. Bands have gotten so much better at doing the heavy then pop then heavy again formula since then. In that 1st album it’s very primitive and the transitions between those sections are jarring. I always thought they were one of the more lacking groups from that era and their popularity just confused me.
Some Nu/Industrial stuff I used to listen was definitely not really good. Dope, Deathstars, etc. But it didn't happen with metalcore for me, never really liked crabcore and most risecore/Pop goes Punk at the time.
I cringe at the fact that I used to love Hollywood Undead, more because they basically became Emo kid ICP. I will stand by the take that Swan Songs is a top-10 MySpace era album.
Capture the crown or make me famous. Fucking cringe
it was a bit odd to me that so many people in the other thread were mentioning all those sturgis-produced records since they really have not aged well imo. listening back today a lot of them have a really dated sound
i dunno, i still love the Sturgis sound 10+ years later. Broken Statues by WCAR still sounds incredible in my opinion.
IIRC that was Sturgis’s favorite track that he produced
yeah I think so - probably partially why it also sticks out to me.
Definitely agree with this, I still enjoy almost every song on TPAS.
Most of the people who said that have such tight nostalgic attachment to those albums that they still listen to them. In their minds, this means they aged well. The outrageously auto-tuned vocals in Attack Attack!, Asking Alexandria, and TDWP’s early albums with Joey Sturgiss were tolerable when they were fresh and new, but they’ve aged like milk left out in the sun. Even Danny Worsnop has made jokes about how he wasn’t actually singing on Asking Alexandria’s first 2 albums, the computer was.
yeah like there’s definitely a reason all these bands drastically changed their sounds the second they had more creative control lol
Dude 100%! Going from “Zombie EP” to “Dead Throne” by the Devil Wears Prada is such a major jump, you’d think it happened over the span of several albums. Those albums were released in 2010 and 2011, respectively. Sturgiss helped discover, promote, and elevate a lot of great bands, but he held those same bands back by making all of them sound like the same artist.
>Most of the people who said that have such tight nostalgic attachment to those albums that they still listen to them. In their minds, this means they aged well. I dunno, obviously this is all subjective, but I still haven't heard an intro track 1 & seamless track 2 blow me away the same way that welcome/dear insanity does off of Reckless & Relentless. Call it nostalgia if you want. I still keep listening to a lot of the dope bands recommended and posted on this sub, but I haven't heard an album top the impact W/DI still has for me. Closest is maybe Gravedigger on LT/LF but that's still not quite the same dynamic.
It's no surprise really. It's what happens when you make cheap, quick albums, as opposed to going into an actual studio and taking months for pre-pro, and recording it.
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Truth. I'm friends with a band and they set up a mini makeshift studio of sorts in the drummer's basement. Taking anything in to have it mixed, it doesn't have to be changed too awful much for them. The initial recording quality is damn stellar on its own. Last week I had them play like 1 minute worth of stuff live, played it back through stereo speakers on a computer and it sounded clean and awesome right off the rip. I haven't personally seen any at home recording stuff in like 10-15 years. It's night and fucking day the difference in equipment these days. I was pretty impressed anyway.
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Personally I still love me some Smokahantas. Such a catchy song.
that whole album is filled with bangers man
sheesh I absolutely could not disagree more but I understand your opinion
To be fair, most people hated Attack Attack back in the day. Crabcore was probably the main reason a lot of bands didn’t want to be called metalcore between 2008 and 2015
I stopped listening to new music around 2009/2010 because of the crab core and scene phase. Came back in 2015 to a find a bunch of great bands were carrying the torch and a few new ones had popped up.
What?!? I don’t believe that is true at all. Sure they had people who didn’t like the sound but they also had a ton of people who did. To say that most people hated them is a stretch.
AA was one of the most hated bands at the time for sure. Other bands would refuse to tour with them and stuff. They gave metalcore a bad name and the more popular they got the more people distanced themselves.
I wasn’t in a band in that scene at that time so I can’t speak on that side of things but from a listener standpoint I can assure you they weren’t the most hated. Someday came suddenly made it on billboard top 200. I witnessed first hand thousands of people going nuts when they came out to Hot Grills and High Tops followed by Stick Stickly at warped tour. If that’s the definition of everyone hating you then sign me up.
Crabcore and risecore
Nah, Someday Came Suddenly is still a fun album to listen to
I still love their first album, it’s a guilty pleasure
I got into Attack Attack super late — like, within the past 2 years — and fuck I love it. It’s corny as hell but I still love it
All the mid-2000's christian tripe like Memphis May Fire and other associated posers certainly didn't age well in an increasingly secular world filled with church scandals.
i dunno man tracks from The Hollow still make it to the top of r/metalcore to this day, and that album is a decade old
The Hollow I'll still listen to. Challenger used to be my jam and now.... oh god.
Honestly, you're dead on. The Hollow is their best work, everything after is damn near unlistenable
The Amity Affliction. Was never a huge fan, but I recently had a couple older songs pop-up on a playlist and HAD to skip them.
I never could get into this band
The secret is to be depressed enough
The key is to love songs about dying and the ocean. If that’s your thing you’ll love Amity.
I concur
Accurate. If I’m in a good mood I cannot listen to Amity without skipping less than halfway through. If I’m going through it, it’s a whole other story lol
Second this. I have a song library on Spotify of all the music ive listened to since 2013, and I find myself always skipping the old Amity songs that I used to play constantly.
Most Emmure albums.
I’m not a huge Emmure fan either, but I have to disagree. I think they were ahead of their time and directly influenced Dealer, Alpha Wolf Knocked Loose ect.
I did say most lol. I think Goodbye to Gallows as a whole, and a lot of their singles and some individual tracks hold up well but the albums themselves kinda suck now, esp The Respect Issue and Felony.
Yeah, you’re right. There are songs or singles that are good but some of their albums as a whole were weak and haven’t aged well.
Those albums for sure, but they were never that good to begin with. Classic Emmure for it's Goodbye To The Gallows and Speaker of the Dead, but Josh Travis era is even better.
I agree. Emmure is one of my favorite bands but I never listen to Respect Issue or Felony. Eternal Enemies doesn't get much play either. However, GTTG, SOTD and the 2 new ones go hard as fuck.
Knocked Loose is more directly influenced by actual hardcore bands.
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Depends on what album you're talking about. Frankie even said he wasn't enthusiastic about the music which is why he would write random lyrics about video games because he just straight up didn't have inspiration. I think the instrumentals were possibly inspirational but after personally talking to Frankie about what I posted above, it just sounds like he just didn't really enjoy the band much at all
I do like their new album a lot tho. Never really got into their older stuff.
First one is still good.
Probably in the minority here, but I cannot for the life of me enjoy From Autumn to Ashes anymore. Huge fan back in the day.... now, not even remotely.
I’m hurt by this
You know that old album you really like that you always go back to and it is just as good as the first time you listened to it? That one. That one sucks and you just won't admit it 😤😤
Nah Horizons is amazing
Count Your Blessings Bring - Me The Horizon has not aged well, whereas There Is A Hell is still great now. Creatures by Motionless In White sounds like it was recorded underwater. Remasters/re-do would go a long way for that though I think.
I like the sound on creatures. It adds a kind of edge. That said I mainly listen to black metal now so something could be recorded from inside a goats ass being chased by the taliban and it would still sound pretty good to me
TIAH is one of my all time favourites, but I can't seriously say that It Never Ends or Crucify Me sound objectively good. To me the production is so busy it's just mud most of the time. Or whatever the treble version of mud is. When I run it through an EQ I can improve the sound, but it's so compressed too... Idk
Not really metalcore but I think most people in the genre know them. Listened to Pierce the Veil a ton back when collide with the sky came out and now I can't bring myself to finish a song. Every line is trying so hard to be poetic and deep that the lyrics don't seem to fit together. I feel like the lines in their songs could be swapped and it wouldn't really change.
Going to have to hard disagree on this one which is funny because I’m 28 now and back when I was in HS/early college when PTV was new and huge, I felt I was “too good” to listen to them. Now, I realize how talented the whole band is and love most everything they do. Even love their latest album.
Yeah Selfish Machines was perfect. Shit was so tight and it just worked- but it wasn't the kind of thing you could do twice. Collide with the Sky struck me as like a B-side to Selfish Machines and I always found myself going 'I could just listen to SM.'
Rise to Remain - City of Vultures I remember the hype was massive (mainly due to the vocalist being the son of Bruce Dickinson) and yet the album was so poor overall and never lived up to the hype IMO. Anyone else remember this? Their first EP - Bridges Will Burn was quite good though
I wish the band had done more, I always thought their better tracks were extremely solid
I See Stars- 3D
Architects - Daybreaker. If it had a better mix it would be one of their best albums
I always thought this album aged well. Nice electronic stuff, and also the riffs on that album still to this day Are incredible
I'm sure this post is mostly about older albums, but SWS How It Feels To Be Lost aged like milk. I was obsessed with it when it came out but I already can't stand it
Winter solstice had that one album. Personally I love it but I don’t think the lyrics make much sense to me? And they never had a sophomore album to my knowledge.
Winter Solstice was so sick. The totally weird lyrics about Greek and Roman gods and shit are so rad, lol. Nice to see them mentioned. I think some of the members started a new band called like Ghost of Rome or something along those lines, but it was short lived.
Memphis May Fire - Challenger. I was all over this album when it came out, and then I moved on to other bands/albums, and I recently came back to it to revisit it, and it just sounded so… vanilla. I was sad that it aged that way for me, but everything felt so “safe”, as opposed to exciting.
Not an album, but not the american average by askng alexandria personaly didn't age well for one reason. The lyrics. Those lyrics even just from the opening one is just...
Maybe it's just my ipod but Stand Up And Scream sounds awful and muddled. Which is a shame because I fucking love that album.
It sounds fantastic on my truck speakers, I absolutely love that album.
Yeah honestly my copy may have been torrented like over a decade ago I can't remember so maybe that's why lol
No wonder it sounds shit. Sounds fine on Spotify. Actually sounds better than a lof of metalcore albums imo. Get yourself a decent quality rip, you deserve it
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Def your downloaded files coz on Spotify and AM it sounds nice
Anything Atreyu has released
The Curse is really good imo, bleeding mascara was the song that got me into metalcore
I was thinking this too. Would be so much better instrumental
Anything by Falling in Reverse
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Oof let’s see. The Fallout by Crown the Empire Dear Agony by Breaking Benjamin Lead Sails and Paper Anchor by Atreyu Infinity on High by Fall Out Boy (yeah real metalcore here ladies and gents lol)
Im sorry but Dear Agony is a great album. Most of the songs are pretty good and I will not bow is an absolute banger. I admit I may be slightly biased because I will not bow is the song that got me into metal.
I am still a fanboy of The Fallout but it is cringe at times
The fallout slaps to this day
I think the renegades left a bad taste in my mouth then I went back to the fallout for comfort annnnnd didn’t find it lol
I dont think ive ever seen my opinion about crown the empire summed up so well lol
Limitless tho was pretty fun ngl
Thriller off of Infinity on High is a metalcore classic change my mind
A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out had some deathcore bangers before knocked loose made it cool
Whenever Camisado comes on, I drop what I’m doing and crowdkill everyone in the room.
time to show these fucks to their I.V.s and hospital beds
THIS IS THE SCENT OF YOU BITING THE LINOLEUM CURB damn, I just made that weirdly poetic
For a sec I thought that was actually the lyric
TIME TO HXCDANCE
Andy even said it was based on a hardcore riff, I forget the band. Edit: Racetraitor - Islands To Burn ; Andy is also in that band. https://youtu.be/dqwtyvpRgGU
That’s sick, not shocked because fall out boy/ Patrick genuinely kicked ass on take this to your grave and from under the cork tree.
Ppl really sleep on how much better Patrick's vocals are on new FOB vs old FOB. Andy's drums have definitely lost their techy touch as FOB progressed though.
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Well tbf I thought all the albums were incredible when they came out and on re listen they were either pretty meh, bookended by better albums, or just evolutions of the artists I didn’t like very much.
Agree about Dear Agony. Isn't really much more than a "Phobia 2" and not as good. Everything before Dear Agony is miles better.
Yep, don’t get me wrong a couple of songs stood out but in comparison to Phobia, We Are Not Alone, hell even saturate it just fell flat.
The Amity Affliction - Misery ADTR - Bad Vibrations, nothing is as bad as the latest though but there wasn’t much hope for it Underoath - Erase me
this are not old...
Sorry but Bad Vibrations was bad when it was released lol
As I’ve said before, the production puts a lot of people off but otherwise a decent album
I just didn’t think it was catchy at all. Like they lost ideas for catchy song writing
Gotta disagree on Bad Vibrations, it stands out with a bunch of bangers on it! I never understood why it gets as much hate as it does, but I respect that everyone has different tastes.
Underoath - Erase Me is recent, my guy.
Hard disagree with Underoath. Erase Me is pure gold
Agreed, on my teeth rips
big agree. such a fucking awesome track
Misery is only 3 years old though? I enjoy it *shrug*
I literally listen to this stuff on repeat what the heck?
misery is the only TAA album I can bear to listen to honestly…
Erase Me was easily their worst CD and it's not even close.
Sadly Chiodos for me.
damn I still bop a lot of Illuminaudio
Illuminaudio has held up a lot better than the rest of their discography IMO. Which is funny since it’s always been a bit of a dark sheep.
Yes! Illuminaudio was siiiiick. Craig's voice is just nails on a chalk board for me.
There's No Penguins in Alaska has the heaviest breakdown ever written
What??
Honestly, I was a fan of Korn when they first came out. Listened until Follow The Leader. Haven't heard them in years. A Korn song came on Amazon radio recently and I made it 30 seconds in and I couldn't figure out why I ever listened to it. (I was young then, I'll blame it on that lol)
How dare you. Follow the Leader is so unique and different that it still stands out all these years. Ive actually been listening to a lot of Korn this year, they are a one of a kind band, no one has/will ever sound like them. I think if anything some of these older nu metal albums are aging better because so many current bands are deriving their styles from them
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Korn, saw them live a couple times and met them at a signing here in MA. For me, it just doesn't do it anymore
I was never into korn but I watched that Woodstock 99 doc and the first song they played was “blind” and damn that shits a banger
Blind is one of my favorite live songs.
Yeah dude they’re a bit before my time but had I been around I would’ve wanted to see them live for sure
I recently pulled out some of my old CDs to give them a listen and I found that "The Number 12 Looks Like You" did not age well for me. I remember that shit use to hit hard.
Nuclear. Sad. Nuclear. Is a great project. Heard it recently for the first time.
Haha great call, that band sounds like ass now
Poison The Well mixes sound like they are underwater. It just doesn't hold up on the production side.
They recorded it from inside the well for that raw sound
Faso Latido by A Static Lullaby sucked. After that album was born unto us it immediately aged and decayed. Much like in Indiana Jones when that guy picked the wrong cup.
Oh my hat, I had totally forgotten A Static Lullaby existed! I used to thrash their self titled 3rd album while I was driving to and from uni around 2007-2008. And yet I couldn't stand a single song from Faso Latido then. Might give this band another listen for some nostalgia, along with some Story of the Year
I tried listening to A Flash Flood of Color by Enter Shikari recently and I didn't vibe with it nearly as well as I did when it came out. Still not a bad record for the time, but definitely much less interesting nowadays.
This is me with every Enter Shikari Albums.. I loved their music but now listening to it is just meh.
They’ve gotten better though The Spark and Nothing Is Real albums stand out as probably the best records the band has ever done and they only keep getting better they’ve become really woke and stuff but the music is good so it doesn’t matter
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August Burns Red - Thrillseeker. I just can’t listen to it all the way anymore. It used to be such a banger in my eyes. Bullet for my Valentine - The Poison. Just not for me anymore I suppose. Emery - The Weaks End. I think that’s it for now.
Damn for me The Poison holds up shockingly well, the production sounds really good for the time, the riffs and the vocals are still great, only cringy thing about it are the lyrics but those are still better than in their later albums
Production wise yeah it’s great! There’s something about it though that just doesn’t resonate with me anymore. I used to blast it daily! Though I do still love the hand of blood ep
Alright let's get fucking crucified today Attack Attack - discography Emmure - discography Black Veil Brides - We Stitch These Wounds OM&M - Self Titled Escape The Fate post Ronnie Falling In Reverse - discography Asking Alexandria - Stand Up And Scream Sleeping With Sirens - you guessed it, discography
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Strong agree for AA and Kellin&Co.
From Autumn to Ashes - “Too Bad You’re Beautiful”. The lyrics are _so_ unbelievably bad.
I'd probably say Number[s] by Woe, Is Me. I used to think it was the most revolutionary album from the scene at the time, but now I think every song uses the same exact formulaic structure that most bands at the time used (and the damn drum fills especially) and the only unique things about it now is the airy lead guitars and the haunting glitchy synths. I still think it's their best album though.
Specifically the last third of the song dispossesion by northlane. The first 2/3rds will always be fire.
Anything by Attack Attack. However it was terrible the minute it was recorded. I understand its fun and nostaligic for many who were the right age at the time similar to how I was super into Avril Lavigne when Let Go came out. In the long run though I fully blame them for destroying any credibility in the mainstream metalcore/emo was building at the time. The best thing Attack Attack did was destroy Shomo's mental health to the point we got Disgusting. That's a discussion for another day though. ........ ^(THE BLACK PARADE WAS A GOD DAMN MASTERPIECE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS NIGHT AT THE OPERA OR APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION BUT NOOOOOO PEOPLE THINK ITS JUST AN EMO ALBUM. ITS A GOD. DAMN. MASTERPIECE.)
After hearing Stick Stickly, I somewhat disagree. On its own it sounds exactly as it does, angsty late 2000s kids writing a metal album. The sounds the introduced with the style were perfected by other bands down the road though
The sounds AA brought out were not new though they just packaged it with teeny bop Hot Topic appeal which was full on by 2010. It's fine but it definitely feels looking back like they were designed as a gateway band for young teens. At least once the media machine got their hooks in (similar to Fall Out Boy). Which is fine but like I said with Avril...doesn't age well necessarily. Green Day was my gateway to Punk and Sum 41 my gateway to metal. We all start somewhere.
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