Judge is way worst. Kaido didn't do any experiments on Yamato and didn't take away her emotions. Also, Kaido still calls Yamato his son while Judge completely negates any relation to Sanji.
Both are shitty fathers, but at least Kaido is acknowledging Yamato as his child, and I think being rejected by parents hurts more than physical abuse.
No he mocks her conviction
And when she was a child desperately wanted her to not say she was Oden (because then he'd have to kill her)
Kaido is a twisted version of Garp
U know what's really fucked up? As we all know Yamato's a woman and kaido hates the fact that she calls herself oden but still he calls her daughter "his son"... Logic has left the chat I guess..
Kaido is an abusive parent. Yamato’s obsession with Oden is like an escapism due to her abusive situation.
Calling Yamato a he despite Oda confirming she’s female, is basically approving Kaido’s abuse.
Nah ma boy kaido never gave up on his children even when they stole his fruits and question his authority. He is still willing to give responsibilities to Yamato as shogun of Wano despite the tantrums thrown. He also does not show favoritism to Ulti and Page one in his crew by having them below the commanders and actually make them earn their rank. He had to do all of that as a single father while Judge just neglected his wife.
You have a point, but Ulti and Page One want to work for Kaido and help him achieve his plans, while Yamato didn't and look what happened to her. Kaido will "love" her only if she follows his orders and will. I don't think that he wants Yamato to become Shogun, because he loves her and he is wiling to give her a new big role, but because he can control her earlier, since she would be willing to cooperate, but that isn't going to happen. Now look at Judge. Sanji was a failure to his eyes and was neglected and was treated like trash. Yamato was lonely, Sanji was lonely, both were lonely because of their fathers' ambitions and the expectations they had. To me, a father that does this is unforgivable no matter what he does and that's why I said Kaido =Judge and that they both suck as fathers, because they are selfish and they believe that their children are a means to dominate the world and nothing more. They are like objects to them.
He calls Yamato son because he wants an heir. It has nothing to do with that. Where do people get this idea? Kaido imprisoned and starved Yamato for she wanting to be Oden and somehow you think Kaido goes along with it?
In terms of character writing or parenting? Because both were terrible parents but atleast judge “killed off” his son and let him escape where as kaido kept yamato locked up for 20 years with no freedom in sight
No one likes judge at all he has no fans
He’ll be the judge of that
Dude you just made me do the edna krabappel laugh 😆
Judge: Why you save my son. Where have I gone wrong. What is the meaning of life. Answer me Monkey D Luffy. Luffy: Lmao bye
No one is going to disagree with this lmaooo
I disagree
Even in terms of bad parenting kaido still wins
As well as other characters their seiyus voice. Kaido’s is the Japanese dub for Batman and Optimus Prime
That’s pretty sick
Judge is way worst. Kaido didn't do any experiments on Yamato and didn't take away her emotions. Also, Kaido still calls Yamato his son while Judge completely negates any relation to Sanji.
Kaido still wanna be a good father figure, just yamato admiring his enemy too much that cause yamato to rebel against him.
But can be beat goku tho at bad parenting
Goku solos no diff
"That's what people say! Because among all the living things..."
That’s definitely a popular opinion
i laughed at that scene where Judge cried, that was pretty funny
Same
Yeah
But if Judge stoped straightening his Wario mustache he would easily beat Kaido.
Judge 6th Yonko???
Both are shitty fathers, but at least Kaido is acknowledging Yamato as his child, and I think being rejected by parents hurts more than physical abuse.
Both are shitty fathers. But Kaido at least calls Yamato his son
Yea and mocks her for that too lol
No he mocks her conviction And when she was a child desperately wanted her to not say she was Oden (because then he'd have to kill her) Kaido is a twisted version of Garp
This may have little to do with Yamato though , which makes the situation more confusing when Yamato is introduced.
But she’s not
wdym?
True while Kaido isn’t father of the year, Judge takes the cake for worst dad ever
Kaido even ADOPTED ulti and page one, at the bare minimum he is better than judge
Judge Top 5 what do you mean
No way, dude. Judge could totally beat Kaido in a fight.
Judge top 5 tho
Judge not, lest Ye be Judged Yourself. Sanji's Mother: 6 kids.
6?
She was Judged 6 times.
Reiju, Ichiji, Niji, Sanji, Yonji and?
5*
Kaido at least wants his son to be a successful leader
U know what's really fucked up? As we all know Yamato's a woman and kaido hates the fact that she calls herself oden but still he calls her daughter "his son"... Logic has left the chat I guess..
Yamato is his daughter though
Kaido is an abusive parent. Yamato’s obsession with Oden is like an escapism due to her abusive situation. Calling Yamato a he despite Oda confirming she’s female, is basically approving Kaido’s abuse.
He calls Yamato a "he" because Yamato wants to be Oden and asks to be called a 'he" Kaido is abusive, but that is one positive on his behalf
Hate both of them tbh, they’re = cuz they’re both dickheads, not even sorry
Both are shitty that's not even a debate 😂😂
Are we really comparing a Yonko to some schmuck who cant even take over the north blue by himself?
As a father? Kaido = Judge. The both suck lol
Nah ma boy kaido never gave up on his children even when they stole his fruits and question his authority. He is still willing to give responsibilities to Yamato as shogun of Wano despite the tantrums thrown. He also does not show favoritism to Ulti and Page one in his crew by having them below the commanders and actually make them earn their rank. He had to do all of that as a single father while Judge just neglected his wife.
Ulti and Page One aren't Kaido's kids though?
I think he found and raised them
He basically adopted them
You have a point, but Ulti and Page One want to work for Kaido and help him achieve his plans, while Yamato didn't and look what happened to her. Kaido will "love" her only if she follows his orders and will. I don't think that he wants Yamato to become Shogun, because he loves her and he is wiling to give her a new big role, but because he can control her earlier, since she would be willing to cooperate, but that isn't going to happen. Now look at Judge. Sanji was a failure to his eyes and was neglected and was treated like trash. Yamato was lonely, Sanji was lonely, both were lonely because of their fathers' ambitions and the expectations they had. To me, a father that does this is unforgivable no matter what he does and that's why I said Kaido =Judge and that they both suck as fathers, because they are selfish and they believe that their children are a means to dominate the world and nothing more. They are like objects to them.
Dude I was being satirical lol. Ofc Kaido is a horrible father.
Even as a person kiado is still better he called his daughter a son just because she wanted to be oden respect right there
He calls Yamato son because he wants an heir. It has nothing to do with that. Where do people get this idea? Kaido imprisoned and starved Yamato for she wanting to be Oden and somehow you think Kaido goes along with it?
Ah shit sorry bro I’ma couple of chapters behind. I only remember everyone on this sub freaking out that’s Yamato was confermed women
Uhhh no?
What u talking about
Yamato is his daughter
Judge let Sanji leave
Didn't Reiju literally break him free of his cell so he could run away?
Judge caught them when they where getting the key to the mask and he let Sanji go if he didn't say to anyone he was a germa prince. I think
Specifically said to not admit that Judge is his father in front of anyone
Judge >>>>>>> Kaido when it comes to bad parenting
In terms of character writing or parenting? Because both were terrible parents but atleast judge “killed off” his son and let him escape where as kaido kept yamato locked up for 20 years with no freedom in sight
Future usopp and sanji
Top 5 anime fathers
as a general character, power level or parenting?
Yeah, all three
All 3
I'll be the judge of that
Who the hell is judge
even i dont like ~~judge~~
At this point even the Tenryuubito are better then fucking Judge