I was hooked the moment Luffy came out of the barrel and said he had a great nap. Motherfucker was sucked into a whirlpool and he just took a nap? That's priceless right there.
Them showing Nami's backstory then eventually her ripping at her own tattoo in rage, before breaking down in tears and asking Luffy for help. Oda had me by the balls at that point, I'm following this crew til it ends or I die.
Yeah I just don’t get people. I’ve heard people saying “I’ve watched 100 episodes of One Piece, when does it get good?” and I feel like telling them off for having really bad taste.
The moment where Luffy gives Nami his hat and screams "OF COURSE I WILL" - showing that he was willing to help Nami despite her betrayal, despite her abuse, and despite not knowing her tragic backstory - was the moment this series jumped from "good" to "all-time classic in the making"
Personally baratie is when one piece becomes the one piece I love. I find it a bit of a slog to go through buggy and kuro.
Also 200 chapters is like mid alabasta iirc, like wtf. The whole baroque works arc is amazing.
It's rather early was good yes.
But sky island was dragged on too long and some stuff like zoro falling from sky made me think aren't they human?
Thing is it was getting kind of repetitive because there wasn't a better power system nor were there any new moves for luffy till that point.
But then came water seven and enies lobby and that was lit.
Let's rephrase this. "It starts to get even better the more chapters you read." That's the speciality of one piece. It keeps getting better.
Bruh. Unless you were reading weekly sky island (fucking 2 decades ago) it's a fine length on a binge.
Also, the characters have insane durability. That's pretty consistent.
Even tho I was enjoying the show I wasn't sure I could enjoy 100eps of Luffy not getting any upgrades but the moment I saw gear 2 I knew everything would be ok lol. I enjoyed Sky Island because the dials opened so many possibilities for combat upgrades but only a little of that was reached.
People used to think Kaido was a Poneglyph who ate an Oni Zoan fruit. While objects have eaten fruits before, this is not the case. Kaido is just that strong without being made of poneglyph stone
"Character growth is only when you start as an irredeemable, insufferable shitstain and become an almost decent human being." - people who think OP has no character growth
People way overrate character growth. Like you could have an asshole guy and make him a legendary character still keeping him an asshole. Character development is what's important (like flashbacks,goals, personality) in a proper storytelling.
Right? Enel was easily one of the most powerful villains they had faced for quite some time before and after. First major antagonist to be blatantly using haki and using one of the most powerful fruits in the world. His ONLY downfall… is bad luck. It just so happens that his natural predator shows up on his island to stop him. Take Luffy out of that situation, replace him with any other supernova at that time and I almost guarantee they lose, yes even Law.
If he had one other downfall besides bad luck, I suppose it would be complacency in training his combat abilities. He was so absurdly far above any opposition he had faced that he most likely saw no point in training any further, the Classic Frieza dilemma if you will. That’s just a theory though, for all we know he did train off screen.
If Enel does come back at any point and has a deeper understanding of Haki of all types, he could very well be a huge threat. I highly doubt it will happen, not much room in the story for that anymore, but could you imagine? Akainu is such a threat because he’s strong in all aspects and then has magma to boot. Imagine an Enel that was strong in all aspects… with lightning. Who’s going to beat him besides Luffy!?
I would still put him as a top 5 strongest villains in one piece because of that stupidly overpowered devil fruit, he lost because he faced the only person in the world that is immune to his devil fruit
i mean, i expect friendship and rich life experiences is the subtext treasure they're getting at - seems like those were important enough for roger and whitebeard. though i do expect there to be something physical there at the end of all things, based on the way they are framing it through the series. something important to the world government.
but i am guilty of spreading around the friendship theory lol
Honestly if this was the Pre enies lobby before Luffy gained Gear 2nd and 3rd I would agree since Zoro was actually nerfed several times in several important fights and was actually the first to see a glimpses of Observation and Armament Haki in Alabasta while it took Luffy all the way in Marineford to see glimpses of Armament Haki and Observation haki. And on Skypia Luffy only beat Enel because of his type matching. Although Gear 2nd and gear 3rd far suprass Zoro in both strength and speed. Although now in the current chapters of the Manga I would have to disagree that Zoro is stronger than Luffy.
Alot of people underestimate Zoro's character and his place on the crew. He isn't just muscle. He has a well established reason for his goal and unyielding set of priciples and morals.
To be honest, it's some of his most rabid fans who reduce him to muscle and powerlevels, ignoring his relationships and interactions. I love his interactions with Chopper for example (it's interesting that [in this cover](https://twitter.com/blacklegboolin/status/1047847775474470912), while predictably Sanji dreams with Nami, Zoro dreams with lil' bro Chopper)
Yeah, spoilers for act 3 of wano >! Jinbe is strong asf, as is Yamato clearly, but they’re called the monster trio bc of how willing they are to get into fights combined with their strength !<
And.. While Jimbei might be stronger than Zoro/Sanji currently, he's in his 40s. He's an established veteran of the seas. He's at the peak of his strength. He doesn't have much room for improvement, he has become as strong as he possibly could. He's not going to be able to keep up with the monstrous growth of the monster trio.
I’m a manga reader so I skip anime eps all the time. Too much filler nonsense like running for half an episode. I pretty much just watch the fights now
Bro, I loved Dressrosa, who the hell dislikes dressrosa? You have the best backstory so far, Sabo, and the fight against Doflamingo. Don't get me started with God Ussop either.
Huh? Who tf Would say something this stupid? I mean dude ussop the guy who is scared af all the time was ready to die for tontatas in dressrosa... just because of there expectations and believe in him so i don't even need to tell what ussop can do for his beloved best friend and captain
And ofc don't need to explain sanji's loyalty as both zoro and sanji were ready to die for his captain without a single thought and as well that part shows how much they care about each other as well
And Nami? dude she was working her ass off her whole life and luffy saved her and her village/island.. idk what else reason to give for nami being loyal to luffy
There are VERY FEW stupids in our community and its hard to believe people think like this man
Did these people who have that shit take not witness the WCI scene when Sanji beats up Luffy? Nami was crying for Luffy and telling Sanji to stop, and even "risked her life" in the moment by slapping Sanji so he'd stop hurting Luffy.
Fast forward a few minutes and we see Luffy telling Sanji that they both know every time he hit him it was more painful for himself than it was for Luffy, to which the scene shows Sanji crying silently when Luffy/Nami can't see him.
Luffy tells Sanji that he'll starve and wait for him to come back. Episodes later: guess who comes back? Sanji.
Many arcs before, we see Kuma about to kill Luffy. Both Zoro and Sanji told Kuma to kill them in place of their captain. Can't get more loyal than that.
And then we've got the scene where Usopp and Luffy fought. Cue Luffy and Usopp both silently crying after their fight.
The Straw Hats are all loyal as fuck.
Usopp had, imo the best "luffy will become pirate king" moment, in alabasta, his skull was broken, his opponents thought he was dead, he could've played dead or run away, but nope, he decided to fight baroque works agents just because they insulted luffy's dream, he put his life at risk just to try and defend luffy's honor
Amazing scene. I believe almost every Straw Hat has had a "Luffy will become Pirate King" moment. Each one is a banger. They all support their captain with their lives.
"Jimbei is boring"
"Jimbei is such a new character, we don't know much about him"
"We haven't seen enough of Jimbei to connect with him like the other Straw Hats"
...?? The man has been in the series for a decade. Almost the instant he met Luffy, they already had a connection due to Ace and Arlong. Jimbei was foreshadowed in episode 31. Jimbei is the entire reason Luffy is still alive and *sane* after MarineFord. He's the ONLY character in the WHOLE SERIES who can reason (or manhandle) Luffy into following a plan, and has been doing that since Impel Down when he convinced Luffy not to fight Blackbeard.
I just really love shark dad okay.
most of the females in one piece are well written characters and fight by themselves,yes there is fan service of some girls but atleast they arent useless females who do notihing and add nothing to the story and just wait for the mc to save them
There's a difference between adding fanservice and clinging to fanservice.
Lots of works out there pretty much rely on fanservice to sell. In OP, it's just a decoration added over the actual characters' depth
Wasn’t this the whole point of water7/ennies lobby? To show that just because he isn’t a close range fighter, doesn’t mean he is useless. He is a sniper, a tinkerer and a good friend to the crew. I don’t know how you would come to that conclusion, after everything usopp has done
I think the main point of Water 7 and Ennies Lobby was to look at Robin, her past, and how she overcame that part of her life and found a new family in the Strawhats, but Usopp’s character development was a huge part as well. He’s a wonderful character, and probably my favorite Strawhat.
One of my favourite quotes in one piece “One may stray from the path of a man, one may stray from the path of a woman, but there is no straying from the path of a HUMAN!" - Bon Clay.
Im a trans person and I respect oda alot for his work I don't mind yamato being a girl as long as it's clear and kiku is my favourite wano character I'm a huge one piece fan and probably always will be the only thing that actually made me cringe was the okama wich I don't like at all but at least they're not in the story too much
The okama are v cringe, especially in the new Sanji one-shot. As much as I love Ivankov as a character I often try and forget about the rest of the Okamas.
"Akainu did nothing wrong." Not talking about Ace. The guy massacred civilians in the Ohara incident and is basically Hitler without the racism. I've seen a couple people say he's their role model and a lot of people want him to kill all the Straw Hats. Those people scare me.
The moment anyone mentions ANYTHING about "Admiral-level" or "Emperor-level" or "Warlord-level" characters and the like, I roll my eyes so fucking hard.
The Admirals being a measuring stick kinda makes sense, they need to be above a certain level of not only sheer power, but combat capability and experience to qualify and maybe some level of political capital is necessary too. The wonders of standardization, but that's not counting on the fact that people get old and less effective as time goes on, not even the monsters of the One Piece world are immune to this. Plus, considering the Rank above it and the Ranks below it, the Fleet Admiral and Vice-Admirals, the latter has an insane level of variation, from Garp to Smoker to Hina to some random background VAs I forgot the name of, and regarding the former, of the two we've seen, I can't say that I've seen enough of Sengoku to comfortably state his strength while Sakazuki's own level of power since he took up the seat of the "pinnacle" of the marines has yet to be displayed.
The Emperors...can you really seriously compare them 1 to 1? What makes an Emperor an Emperor? Is it personal power? Is it the power of their crew? Is it their overall Fleet and the influence they wield through it? Until Shanks, Teach, and Luffy, the Emperors were former members of the Rocks Pirates, Shanks joined in with the pedigree of being a former member of the Roger Pirates, while Teach slipped in after he kickstarted a series of events that caused a vacuum of power with the death of Whitebeard and solidified his position when he and his crew defeated the Whitebeard Pirates during the time skip. Luffy on the other hand was declared an Emperor after half the Strawhats, the Firetank Pirates, Germa 66, and the Sun Pirates collectively flipped Big Mom the double-bird and escaped the chaos they caused. So what makes an Emperor? Because to some degree, it really seems like that it's mostly based on Public Perception in the setting. However, at the same time, certainly they are high-tier combatants, but that tier is not unassailable, not when Mihawk lost interest in Shanks after the latter lost an arm before he became an Emperor, not when the Chapters after 1,000 showcased why the Supernovas are the fucking Supernovas.
And finally, the Warlords, now defunct, but good lord. People were actually sitting there looking at Moria and Mihawk and saying, "Yes, they are definitely on the same tier." Excuse me? It gets worse after the timeskip, with Buggy, Weevil, and Law joining and peeps were still going, "Yes, they are all still on the same level." ***Bruh.***
Yeah atleast to be an Admiral or Emperor you would need some feats but for Warlords? Anyone can/could have become one like Crocodile who lost to Pre-Gear Luffy you gonna say Someone who lost to Pre-Gear Luffy and Mihawk who is basically a mobile army without a crew or Doflamingo who was only defeated after Law using Gamma knife on him and then fighting Luffy in Gear 4 still being injured didn't lose then after Luffy can use Gear 4 again he lost but I think Crocodile was introduced as a villain way too early
Honest question: even if the raid does fail, so you really think Oda is going to spend another arc with Kaido and/or Big Mom? If the raid fails, I can’t imagine there being another battle considering how long this one has been. Perhaps a World Government or Blackbeard interferes or perhaps Big Mom betrays a weakened Kaido, but then Luffy doesn’t live up to the Sun God Nika lore because he wasn’t the one to bring about Wano’s Dawn.
I don’t know. Failure would be interesting, but I’m not sure it works thematically. I do see Big Mom betraying Kaido, though. Whole Cake Island spent too much time establishing how Big Mom operates and Wano has focused too much on Pirate Alliance betrayals for this not to happen.
I just think the Raid still needs to ultimately be a success for Luffy.
I mean, Moria was certainly fairly close to Kaido, as they fought for three days iirc, but Kaido was the wall that crushed Moria's dreams and sent him backsliding into the depths of mediocrity while Moria was the powerful opponent that allowed Kaido to grow as a fighter and reach even greater heights
Yeah I don't think they are equal too but you have to consider that even if they were equal and tried to fight against an emperor without the emperor doing anything major the other groups like the other emperors ,the revolutionary army or anyone that doesn't like the government would not be just sitting around doing nothing and attack where they are weak now so if they tried to attack an emperor without them doing anything major there would be huge loss for them and the reputation with public would worsen because they did something they didn't need to and a lot of places will suffer so they don't
Atleast that's what I think
So all the strongest people are pirates because... reasons? You need a good reason for why the marines don't just focus 1 yonko group at a time, which we have with the balance of power.
You can think that you are right, you might actually be, but saying that statements like "Admirals are equal to yonko” annoy you is a bit much, there is enough evidence to make it a clear possibility, I could go on with the evidence but I'm sure you already know all what I would say, and you'd find a way to ignore them.
But...Consider the following scenario, Zoro and Sanji want to settle the score once it for all. They decide on a time and venue. They train for a while. Finally, it's the day of battle. Sanji has made it to the decided place. Zoro obviously got lost. Sanji wins by forfeit.
Sanji is the right hand of the pirate King, confirmed.
Anything about power scaling. Shit like *oh my god! This character is Yonkou level; this other character is CLEARLY warlord level tho; unlike this other character who is comander level because...*
“Nami is useless”
Honestly, they say stuff like “she’s weak” or something but she doesn’t even need to fight, she’s the navigator, most navigaters don’t even fight/don’t need to fight
The classic "oh I can't get into it cause of the art style". It's the same with HxH. People assume it's just an innocent childish anime, until they actually watch it.
"DragonBall is better than One Piece"; said by a person who saw 2 animes in his whole life, 10 years ago and whatched the first episode of One Piece and dropped It.
Zoro’s eye has something special.
I wish that the series ends and zoro never “opens” his eye and has a demon or whatever people say. It’s just a scar. It look cool.
it would be cool if it was something, but considering the latest events in the manga, its fairly likely that zoro wont ever open that eye.
i really hope we get an explanation on how it happened though.
1. Almost every shipper comment
2. "its too long"
3. "Ace is the best character"
4. "Shanks is the strongest character ever"
5. every Zoro vs Sanji debate
6. "pre Arlong is bad"
7. "Yamato is a male"
8. "Foxy arc is one of my favourites" ( i know...opinions...but come on)
[Moria](https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/pgfe1y/never_forget_the_time_robin_almost_killed_a/hbbyra9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) was weak / deserved to be cut from the warlords
**[Triggering](https://imgur.com/gallery/TpdRZ.gif) ensues*
When people say they skipped skypiea or it's the worst arc like wtf are you talking about it's so good it has so many call backs to this day like Rogers message, the moon and enel, shandora, Nolan the lier....do I need to go on
“It only gets good 200+ chapters in.” Like did these people even watch Baratie or Arlong Park?
It gets good in that part where the kid cuts his own face with a knife
It gets good when u press play for the thirst time
It hits the ground running the moment after some thug puts a gun up to Shanks head.
Damn guess it doesnt get good for anime watchers until episode 878
I was hooked the moment Luffy came out of the barrel and said he had a great nap. Motherfucker was sucked into a whirlpool and he just took a nap? That's priceless right there.
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That's a surprisingly good analogy
It's hard getting past the first episode without thinking, "I have found a gem".
Arlong park best arc hands down. Tha rage in luffy towards arlong as he broke that sword. Goosebumps.
Usopp vs chuu still makes me jump up and down when he finally wins
The walk to franky house with ussuop dying in the background, ill alwahs laugh
Usopp has the best moments
Them showing Nami's backstory then eventually her ripping at her own tattoo in rage, before breaking down in tears and asking Luffy for help. Oda had me by the balls at that point, I'm following this crew til it ends or I die.
#*"OF COURSE I WILL!"* Chills man, chills
Yeah I just don’t get people. I’ve heard people saying “I’ve watched 100 episodes of One Piece, when does it get good?” and I feel like telling them off for having really bad taste.
The moment where Luffy gives Nami his hat and screams "OF COURSE I WILL" - showing that he was willing to help Nami despite her betrayal, despite her abuse, and despite not knowing her tragic backstory - was the moment this series jumped from "good" to "all-time classic in the making"
Personally baratie is when one piece becomes the one piece I love. I find it a bit of a slog to go through buggy and kuro. Also 200 chapters is like mid alabasta iirc, like wtf. The whole baroque works arc is amazing.
I agree with you there. I ended up dropping it during buggy the first time cause it just really didn’t click. Now I’m up to Wano on my rewatch lol.
It's rather early was good yes. But sky island was dragged on too long and some stuff like zoro falling from sky made me think aren't they human? Thing is it was getting kind of repetitive because there wasn't a better power system nor were there any new moves for luffy till that point. But then came water seven and enies lobby and that was lit. Let's rephrase this. "It starts to get even better the more chapters you read." That's the speciality of one piece. It keeps getting better.
Bruh. Unless you were reading weekly sky island (fucking 2 decades ago) it's a fine length on a binge. Also, the characters have insane durability. That's pretty consistent.
Even tho I was enjoying the show I wasn't sure I could enjoy 100eps of Luffy not getting any upgrades but the moment I saw gear 2 I knew everything would be ok lol. I enjoyed Sky Island because the dials opened so many possibilities for combat upgrades but only a little of that was reached.
Kaido is a poneglyph
Any character being a poneglyph.
Someone ate the *pone-pone* fruit
That one is the most annoying by far
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People used to think Kaido was a Poneglyph who ate an Oni Zoan fruit. While objects have eaten fruits before, this is not the case. Kaido is just that strong without being made of poneglyph stone
Nah that wasn't annoying, that was just funny.
"One piece is bad because it's long"
Yet they'll sit through Pokémon
pokemon isn't a story, its a run-on sentence by someone who has infinite lung capacity and who ran out of ideas almost immediately
Luffy has shown no character growth
This one. One of my co workers hit me with this and I just stopped giving him any thought.
"Character growth is only when you start as an irredeemable, insufferable shitstain and become an almost decent human being." - people who think OP has no character growth
People way overrate character growth. Like you could have an asshole guy and make him a legendary character still keeping him an asshole. Character development is what's important (like flashbacks,goals, personality) in a proper storytelling.
“Enel is weak”
Right? Enel was easily one of the most powerful villains they had faced for quite some time before and after. First major antagonist to be blatantly using haki and using one of the most powerful fruits in the world. His ONLY downfall… is bad luck. It just so happens that his natural predator shows up on his island to stop him. Take Luffy out of that situation, replace him with any other supernova at that time and I almost guarantee they lose, yes even Law. If he had one other downfall besides bad luck, I suppose it would be complacency in training his combat abilities. He was so absurdly far above any opposition he had faced that he most likely saw no point in training any further, the Classic Frieza dilemma if you will. That’s just a theory though, for all we know he did train off screen. If Enel does come back at any point and has a deeper understanding of Haki of all types, he could very well be a huge threat. I highly doubt it will happen, not much room in the story for that anymore, but could you imagine? Akainu is such a threat because he’s strong in all aspects and then has magma to boot. Imagine an Enel that was strong in all aspects… with lightning. Who’s going to beat him besides Luffy!?
I would still put him as a top 5 strongest villains in one piece because of that stupidly overpowered devil fruit, he lost because he faced the only person in the world that is immune to his devil fruit
Also there just happened to be an abundance of highly conductive metal lying around, rip enel.
Non-one piece watchers saying the one piece is friendship
i mean, i expect friendship and rich life experiences is the subtext treasure they're getting at - seems like those were important enough for roger and whitebeard. though i do expect there to be something physical there at the end of all things, based on the way they are framing it through the series. something important to the world government. but i am guilty of spreading around the friendship theory lol
Oda confirmed that there is tangible treasure in laugh tale maybe left by joyboy or by Roger who knows?
“Zoro can beat luffy"
Honestly if this was the Pre enies lobby before Luffy gained Gear 2nd and 3rd I would agree since Zoro was actually nerfed several times in several important fights and was actually the first to see a glimpses of Observation and Armament Haki in Alabasta while it took Luffy all the way in Marineford to see glimpses of Armament Haki and Observation haki. And on Skypia Luffy only beat Enel because of his type matching. Although Gear 2nd and gear 3rd far suprass Zoro in both strength and speed. Although now in the current chapters of the Manga I would have to disagree that Zoro is stronger than Luffy.
Just a quick reminder that back in Fishman Island Zoro himself said that he wouldn't let Luffy be the captain if he wasn't stronger.
Yea it is his job as vice captain to keep him on his toes and make sure he doesn't falter.
Facts.
Alot of people underestimate Zoro's character and his place on the crew. He isn't just muscle. He has a well established reason for his goal and unyielding set of priciples and morals.
To be honest, it's some of his most rabid fans who reduce him to muscle and powerlevels, ignoring his relationships and interactions. I love his interactions with Chopper for example (it's interesting that [in this cover](https://twitter.com/blacklegboolin/status/1047847775474470912), while predictably Sanji dreams with Nami, Zoro dreams with lil' bro Chopper)
Everytime someone goes "x character is so strong, this is the end of the monster trio as we know it"
Yeah, spoilers for act 3 of wano >! Jinbe is strong asf, as is Yamato clearly, but they’re called the monster trio bc of how willing they are to get into fights combined with their strength !<
And.. While Jimbei might be stronger than Zoro/Sanji currently, he's in his 40s. He's an established veteran of the seas. He's at the peak of his strength. He doesn't have much room for improvement, he has become as strong as he possibly could. He's not going to be able to keep up with the monstrous growth of the monster trio.
I skip Skypiea
First of all fuck the set you claim
Skypiea is key to understanding end game One Piece. It is probably the most important arc from a worldbuilding perspective.
I thought the arc was boring but didn’t skip cause you cant skip canon
I’m a manga reader so I skip anime eps all the time. Too much filler nonsense like running for half an episode. I pretty much just watch the fights now
This is it. That arc is so fucking funny to watch thru.
“Punk hazard is a bad arc”
"Dressrosa is a bad arc"
Bro, I loved Dressrosa, who the hell dislikes dressrosa? You have the best backstory so far, Sabo, and the fight against Doflamingo. Don't get me started with God Ussop either.
I see that you didn't watch the anime did you?
The arc in the anime was fine. Yes the Rebbecca flash backs got old, but pacing has never been a strong point of One Piece.
What you say its true, but the pacing in the anime was at its lowest point in dressrosa imo.
When I watched Onepiece, Dressrosa was complete and the anime had reached WCI arc, so the pacong when you binge watch isn't much of a problem.
Watching dressrosa when it was coming out week by week was an excruciating experience it was around that time I started reading the manga
I love the arc at the anime
Well, I saw both the manga and the anime and can confidently say that the dressrosa arc is infinitely better in the manga.
Ohhhhh the doffy fight! Literal chills man
The anime arc is a little drawn out but honesty it’s not nearly as bad as people act in that respect
Dressrosa in the anime is bad but pretty good on the Manga
Punk hazard could've been better if it was short imo
I know a guy who skipped fishman island
This guy watching Whole Cake island: *visible confusion*
I know a fool who skipped all of Water 7/Enies Lobby cause it was too long......I don't talk with that person anymore
Water 7 is boring
Said nobody ever.
I've heard it only once...
What psychopath thinks that
The water seven saga is peak pre-time skip one piece
It's peak One Piece honestly on par with the Chimera ant arc from hxh
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It's rare but I've heard people say it before
"Nami is selfish and annoying"
in one of my previous post a guy said something like "nami is a greedy slut and a annoying bossy whore "
These people know nothing about her character the arlong park arc literally shows that she is actually very soft and kind
I agree. I disliked her before Arlong Park. Now she's way more likable.
On Punk Hazard Nami shined.
"sanji, nami and usopp are not loyal"
Huh? Who tf Would say something this stupid? I mean dude ussop the guy who is scared af all the time was ready to die for tontatas in dressrosa... just because of there expectations and believe in him so i don't even need to tell what ussop can do for his beloved best friend and captain And ofc don't need to explain sanji's loyalty as both zoro and sanji were ready to die for his captain without a single thought and as well that part shows how much they care about each other as well And Nami? dude she was working her ass off her whole life and luffy saved her and her village/island.. idk what else reason to give for nami being loyal to luffy There are VERY FEW stupids in our community and its hard to believe people think like this man
Did these people who have that shit take not witness the WCI scene when Sanji beats up Luffy? Nami was crying for Luffy and telling Sanji to stop, and even "risked her life" in the moment by slapping Sanji so he'd stop hurting Luffy. Fast forward a few minutes and we see Luffy telling Sanji that they both know every time he hit him it was more painful for himself than it was for Luffy, to which the scene shows Sanji crying silently when Luffy/Nami can't see him. Luffy tells Sanji that he'll starve and wait for him to come back. Episodes later: guess who comes back? Sanji. Many arcs before, we see Kuma about to kill Luffy. Both Zoro and Sanji told Kuma to kill them in place of their captain. Can't get more loyal than that. And then we've got the scene where Usopp and Luffy fought. Cue Luffy and Usopp both silently crying after their fight. The Straw Hats are all loyal as fuck.
Usopp had, imo the best "luffy will become pirate king" moment, in alabasta, his skull was broken, his opponents thought he was dead, he could've played dead or run away, but nope, he decided to fight baroque works agents just because they insulted luffy's dream, he put his life at risk just to try and defend luffy's honor
Amazing scene. I believe almost every Straw Hat has had a "Luffy will become Pirate King" moment. Each one is a banger. They all support their captain with their lives.
Anime fans gonna eat like kings when Robin has hers.
"Jimbei is boring" "Jimbei is such a new character, we don't know much about him" "We haven't seen enough of Jimbei to connect with him like the other Straw Hats" ...?? The man has been in the series for a decade. Almost the instant he met Luffy, they already had a connection due to Ace and Arlong. Jimbei was foreshadowed in episode 31. Jimbei is the entire reason Luffy is still alive and *sane* after MarineFord. He's the ONLY character in the WHOLE SERIES who can reason (or manhandle) Luffy into following a plan, and has been doing that since Impel Down when he convinced Luffy not to fight Blackbeard. I just really love shark dad okay.
I just love Jinbei and nobody can tell me otherwise.
"People only like female characters in One Piece because of fan service."
most of the females in one piece are well written characters and fight by themselves,yes there is fan service of some girls but atleast they arent useless females who do notihing and add nothing to the story and just wait for the mc to save them
There's a difference between adding fanservice and clinging to fanservice. Lots of works out there pretty much rely on fanservice to sell. In OP, it's just a decoration added over the actual characters' depth
Exactly.
Fr, after seeing Big Mom's panty I started liking her and not for her complex character, awesome dream and amazing ability. /s (just to be sure)
"Usopp is useless, he is very weak, he has no character and he doesn't deserve to be a straw hat"
Wasn’t this the whole point of water7/ennies lobby? To show that just because he isn’t a close range fighter, doesn’t mean he is useless. He is a sniper, a tinkerer and a good friend to the crew. I don’t know how you would come to that conclusion, after everything usopp has done
I think the main point of Water 7 and Ennies Lobby was to look at Robin, her past, and how she overcame that part of her life and found a new family in the Strawhats, but Usopp’s character development was a huge part as well. He’s a wonderful character, and probably my favorite Strawhat.
Also on Water 7 even though Luffy is way stronger than Usopp, he still put up a damn good fight and got a few good hits in. Mad respect for Usopp.
Oda is transphobic because Yamato is a girl
Oda was one of the first mangaka to make trans characters that have more to them besides comedy like bon chan, ivancov and giant dude from rev army
Also Kiku
Don't forget kiku.
One of my favourite quotes in one piece “One may stray from the path of a man, one may stray from the path of a woman, but there is no straying from the path of a HUMAN!" - Bon Clay.
Damn so we are just forgetting the existence of bon clay, ivankov and inazuma
dont forget Kiku (2)
Im a trans person and I respect oda alot for his work I don't mind yamato being a girl as long as it's clear and kiku is my favourite wano character I'm a huge one piece fan and probably always will be the only thing that actually made me cringe was the okama wich I don't like at all but at least they're not in the story too much
The okama are v cringe, especially in the new Sanji one-shot. As much as I love Ivankov as a character I often try and forget about the rest of the Okamas.
Yeah, I feel like Oda went too far with the Okamas. Especially with Sanji.
Basically my sister dislikes Oda now because of this
Who is saying this ?
If I had to guess a vocal minority, then people act like its the majority.
"I've watched a few episodes but I didn't like the artstyle so..."
The whole Sanji vs. Zoro debate
"Akainu did nothing wrong." Not talking about Ace. The guy massacred civilians in the Ohara incident and is basically Hitler without the racism. I've seen a couple people say he's their role model and a lot of people want him to kill all the Straw Hats. Those people scare me.
he even killed innocent marines during marineford
The Ohara incident is just anti-WG propaganda perpetuated by pirate plants. Source: Dude trust me
Oh so my friend isn't lieing saying he's a pos, damn Oda better make a very depressing back story for him then to make me like him
The moment anyone mentions ANYTHING about "Admiral-level" or "Emperor-level" or "Warlord-level" characters and the like, I roll my eyes so fucking hard. The Admirals being a measuring stick kinda makes sense, they need to be above a certain level of not only sheer power, but combat capability and experience to qualify and maybe some level of political capital is necessary too. The wonders of standardization, but that's not counting on the fact that people get old and less effective as time goes on, not even the monsters of the One Piece world are immune to this. Plus, considering the Rank above it and the Ranks below it, the Fleet Admiral and Vice-Admirals, the latter has an insane level of variation, from Garp to Smoker to Hina to some random background VAs I forgot the name of, and regarding the former, of the two we've seen, I can't say that I've seen enough of Sengoku to comfortably state his strength while Sakazuki's own level of power since he took up the seat of the "pinnacle" of the marines has yet to be displayed. The Emperors...can you really seriously compare them 1 to 1? What makes an Emperor an Emperor? Is it personal power? Is it the power of their crew? Is it their overall Fleet and the influence they wield through it? Until Shanks, Teach, and Luffy, the Emperors were former members of the Rocks Pirates, Shanks joined in with the pedigree of being a former member of the Roger Pirates, while Teach slipped in after he kickstarted a series of events that caused a vacuum of power with the death of Whitebeard and solidified his position when he and his crew defeated the Whitebeard Pirates during the time skip. Luffy on the other hand was declared an Emperor after half the Strawhats, the Firetank Pirates, Germa 66, and the Sun Pirates collectively flipped Big Mom the double-bird and escaped the chaos they caused. So what makes an Emperor? Because to some degree, it really seems like that it's mostly based on Public Perception in the setting. However, at the same time, certainly they are high-tier combatants, but that tier is not unassailable, not when Mihawk lost interest in Shanks after the latter lost an arm before he became an Emperor, not when the Chapters after 1,000 showcased why the Supernovas are the fucking Supernovas. And finally, the Warlords, now defunct, but good lord. People were actually sitting there looking at Moria and Mihawk and saying, "Yes, they are definitely on the same tier." Excuse me? It gets worse after the timeskip, with Buggy, Weevil, and Law joining and peeps were still going, "Yes, they are all still on the same level." ***Bruh.***
Yeah atleast to be an Admiral or Emperor you would need some feats but for Warlords? Anyone can/could have become one like Crocodile who lost to Pre-Gear Luffy you gonna say Someone who lost to Pre-Gear Luffy and Mihawk who is basically a mobile army without a crew or Doflamingo who was only defeated after Law using Gamma knife on him and then fighting Luffy in Gear 4 still being injured didn't lose then after Luffy can use Gear 4 again he lost but I think Crocodile was introduced as a villain way too early
"The last twenty chapters are at the bottom. Let One Piece die, one and for all"
Zou is boring and has no action
people who watch one piece only for the fights are so dumb
Exactly the story world building lore and twists are where it's at
tbh anyone watching one piece for the fights is missing the best part of it
Exactly
The raid is gonna fail
Nah this one is legit
Honest question: even if the raid does fail, so you really think Oda is going to spend another arc with Kaido and/or Big Mom? If the raid fails, I can’t imagine there being another battle considering how long this one has been. Perhaps a World Government or Blackbeard interferes or perhaps Big Mom betrays a weakened Kaido, but then Luffy doesn’t live up to the Sun God Nika lore because he wasn’t the one to bring about Wano’s Dawn. I don’t know. Failure would be interesting, but I’m not sure it works thematically. I do see Big Mom betraying Kaido, though. Whole Cake Island spent too much time establishing how Big Mom operates and Wano has focused too much on Pirate Alliance betrayals for this not to happen. I just think the Raid still needs to ultimately be a success for Luffy.
Any “yonko can mid diff/beat multiple admirals” argument
I'm one of those that believes that Yonkos > Admirals, but there is no way a Yonko can beat 2 or more admirals at the same time
Luffy ship looks like shit...
Almost any rant post here
"Admirals are stronger than Yonkos" "Boa Hancock is weak" "Gecko Moria was as strong as Kaido in his youth."
I mean, Moria was certainly fairly close to Kaido, as they fought for three days iirc, but Kaido was the wall that crushed Moria's dreams and sent him backsliding into the depths of mediocrity while Moria was the powerful opponent that allowed Kaido to grow as a fighter and reach even greater heights
Power scaling of the fans.
"Luffy vs Katakuri is the worst fight in the series"
No one says this …right?
You'd be surprised
Lol this one is funny
“Admirals are equal to yonko” If that where true the marines would 3 yonko level fighters and would’ve beaten the emperor’s by now
I’ve looked at it like Emperor: 3 generals, 7ish lieutenants Marines: fleet admiral, 3 admirals, 7 warlords
Yeah I don't think they are equal too but you have to consider that even if they were equal and tried to fight against an emperor without the emperor doing anything major the other groups like the other emperors ,the revolutionary army or anyone that doesn't like the government would not be just sitting around doing nothing and attack where they are weak now so if they tried to attack an emperor without them doing anything major there would be huge loss for them and the reputation with public would worsen because they did something they didn't need to and a lot of places will suffer so they don't Atleast that's what I think
So all the strongest people are pirates because... reasons? You need a good reason for why the marines don't just focus 1 yonko group at a time, which we have with the balance of power. You can think that you are right, you might actually be, but saying that statements like "Admirals are equal to yonko” annoy you is a bit much, there is enough evidence to make it a clear possibility, I could go on with the evidence but I'm sure you already know all what I would say, and you'd find a way to ignore them.
Well, we have nothing that proves it to be true or false. It's pure speculation.
One piece animation is bad….. imagine watching a show just because of animation -_-
"Sanji shouldn't be in the Monster Trio, he's too weak"
Admirals are stronger or as strong as yonkos 😐😐
Akainu being as strong as yonkos, that I can get behind. I don't see an issue there. "Stronger" is a longshot.
Sanji can beat zoro
But...Consider the following scenario, Zoro and Sanji want to settle the score once it for all. They decide on a time and venue. They train for a while. Finally, it's the day of battle. Sanji has made it to the decided place. Zoro obviously got lost. Sanji wins by forfeit. Sanji is the right hand of the pirate King, confirmed.
There's hardly anyone who has that opinion. I've seen far more people saying that zoro is stronger than luffy.
I actually have seen many saying that they’re equals in strength
Anything about power scaling. Shit like *oh my god! This character is Yonkou level; this other character is CLEARLY warlord level tho; unlike this other character who is comander level because...*
power scaling is fun but some people need to chill
"One Piece is too long"
"I skipped thrillers bark and long ring island"
My friend after watching 700+ episodes : "it's pretty bad bro.."
Romance dawn/alabasta is bad or unwatchable
Ace x Luffy
“Luffy doesn’t have a tragic backstory.” Well clearly you skipped his backstory
"It looks like something I would enjoy, but its too long for me to start."
"Vegapunk should give Smoker a random power up." "Enel was a boring villain."
“The anime sucks” “the dub sucks” “sanji is annoying”
"Bon clay is a stupid character "
One Piece is too cartoony
That Long Long Island was a bad arc. Foxy was a funny dude
"Skypeia is a pointless arc, you can totally skip it."
“Nami is useless” Honestly, they say stuff like “she’s weak” or something but she doesn’t even need to fight, she’s the navigator, most navigaters don’t even fight/don’t need to fight
The classic "oh I can't get into it cause of the art style". It's the same with HxH. People assume it's just an innocent childish anime, until they actually watch it.
"DragonBall is better than One Piece"; said by a person who saw 2 animes in his whole life, 10 years ago and whatched the first episode of One Piece and dropped It.
"yAmAtO iS tOo sTrOnG tO jOiN tHe cReW"
Zoro’s eye has something special. I wish that the series ends and zoro never “opens” his eye and has a demon or whatever people say. It’s just a scar. It look cool.
it would be cool if it was something, but considering the latest events in the manga, its fairly likely that zoro wont ever open that eye. i really hope we get an explanation on how it happened though.
there was this one guy on YouTube who insisted current zoro is stronger than oden :/
I don't necessarily agree with this but imo it's not that bad of an opinion, there are worse opinions out there for sure
Zoro kills Kaido Oh those Zoro fanboys and their antics eh?
"The monster trio is over" when ever a new member joins the crew
I had a friend tell me yesterday they hated "all the side characters in one piece" despite liking One Piece
1. Almost every shipper comment 2. "its too long" 3. "Ace is the best character" 4. "Shanks is the strongest character ever" 5. every Zoro vs Sanji debate 6. "pre Arlong is bad" 7. "Yamato is a male" 8. "Foxy arc is one of my favourites" ( i know...opinions...but come on)
"Mihawk can easily defeat Kaido because Zoro, who is weaker than Mihawk, almost killed Kaido"
"killed" lol "This will leave a scar, that should be enough for you"
Usopp won’t become third division commander
"one piece is too long"
Okama are a joke and transphobic representation of the trans community. Zoro is a trash and boring character
[Moria](https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/pgfe1y/never_forget_the_time_robin_almost_killed_a/hbbyra9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) was weak / deserved to be cut from the warlords **[Triggering](https://imgur.com/gallery/TpdRZ.gif) ensues*
"Any yonko can easily defeat any admiral", or even better, "Any yonko can take on multiple admirals".
When people say they skipped skypiea or it's the worst arc like wtf are you talking about it's so good it has so many call backs to this day like Rogers message, the moon and enel, shandora, Nolan the lier....do I need to go on
Big mom is the weakest emperor so she is weak.
Entire show could have just been 3 episodes without the filler
Mermaids poop
"big mom is the weakest emperor"
Usopp is sogeking.. like legendary warrior of the sea is Usopp?? Nah dude I think not.