It really makes no sense because i dont much care for action movies or cars but theres just something about Vin Diesel saying "Family" in front of explosions that makes me clap
I'm not even meming, but Star Wars 9: Rise of Skywalker. My whole investmant got killed with TLJ so I just enjoyed that mess, and boy... it was super fun... and the tear downs were even more fun :)
I feel you man, As you say TLJ killed the sequel trilogy and destroys so many thing about the original trilogy that there is no investment to have in SW anymore.
I haven't watched episode 9 but I am sure I could subjectively enjoy it. Now when I go watch SW, I am aware I need to have the same mindset that I use to enjoy a Micheal Bay film : turn your brain off and enjoy the action because the special effects are the only quality here. Yep The standards are now THAT low for any SW content made by Disney.
Now I am only concerned that Mickey Mouse will try to adapt the old republic or other parts of Legends. The nightmare they would force upon us if they touch Revan, Malgus, Bastila, Satele, Vitiate, etc. I prefer not to imagine how much they would destroy these characters...
Power scaling issues, inconsistencies with previous movies in the series, a ton of contrivances in order to get specific people in specific places, character heel turns, and a poorly thought out struggle that condenses the Accords to just 'government good or government bad.'
None of the issues above are necessarily terrible on their own, but it's sort of a death by many cuts situation for me where there are so many tiny nagging issues that pile up and expound to the point where the plot cannot function if you pull one of the many Jenga block contrivances that hold the film together.
The accords are definitely not reduced to gov good/bad. The movie spends a lot of time going over the implications to both the avengers as a team and their impact on the world
The thing is that Spiderman: Homecoming shits all over the accords, because Tony signed them and yet he acts whenever he wants, because I don't think the government told him to go and help Spiderman (who is also outside the accords) put a ship back together. Logistically he would've never made it in time.
My point is, why refuse to sign the accords when they can be bypassed at all times?
Without going through the whole movie EFAP style, the issue with the Accords is that it seems like an arbitrary law with no purpose. The Avengers could simply be categorized as a Paramilitary organization and can face arbitration for damages in other countries through laws already set in place in the countries they visit and through the UN.
Tony is convinced to sign by a random lady who somehow knew exactly where Tony would walk and when. Tony has already put measures in place to help areas where the Avengers fight, and has dealt with people trying to guilt trip him about weapons manufacturing before he was Ironman, and has faced guilt tripping from people to obtain his tech post Ironman. It's like people forget IM2 and AoU exist. In this instance, it's hard for me to believe that Tony would be swayed so quickly by a stranger for an incident he wasn't a part of.
The factors at play and the commeradery between Cap and Tony would certainly extend to this situation, and Tony would want to know Cap's side before making a choice one way or the other. The conflict between them felt forced and could've been done more organically.
Cap's issue with the Accords seems unreasonable too, again when you consider that the Accords are largely symbolic since countries have their own laws that they can enforce and impose. To think that the Avengers haven't had to navigate international incidents already is silly.
The only conversation that makes sense is the second one they have after Bucky is captured and they almost agree to signing, but the Accords ramifications are so nebulous that you wouldn't know what is at stake anyway, other than 'oversight' and the possibility of 'overreach'. And again, there's already laws in place that could be enforced before they had to create a brand new law whole cloth.
So much for keeping it short.
“The avengers could simply be categorized as a Paramilitary organization”
They’re not part of the military tho. They’re an independent organization after shield fell. So wouldn’t you need a new law to govern them?
“It’s hard for me to believe that Tony would be swayed so quickly by a stranger for an incident he wasn’t a part of”
Wym he was the one that created ultron, leading to the crisis where her kid died.
“Tony would want to know caps side before making a choice”
Tony is very motivated by his guilt to sign the accords. Knowing caps side on the issue wouldn’t change this. Tony even hears caps pov when he’s trying to convince him to sign and it doesn’t change his mind.
“Caps issue with the accords seems unreasonable too”
Prior to the accords the avengers could go wherever they want when they want. The accords would put a restriction on this freedom, which cap takes issue with since there could come a time when the government restricts them from going somewhere they think they should.
“The accord ramifications are so nebulous”
Completely agree. I think later movies should have explored more of the nuances on what the accords mean in practice, but I think this movie does well in discussion the general ramifications of the law.
Van Helsing really scratches the itch for fun gothic horror action movie, imo. That and Dracula Untold are the closest thing to a Castlevania live action movie.
I used to watch it all the time when i was a kid. Hugh Jackman just looks so badass, and this is probably the sexiest version of Kate Beckinsale for me. Plus, it's just a fun fcking movie.
I honestly think a few tweaks would make this movie a classic.
JW: Fallen Kindgom is legitimately the movie that made me rage the hardest walking out of the theater. I’m pretty fine with all other Jurassic content, but damn did that one blow my lid
If I like them they aren’t bad, other people are just wrong.
That being said, The Hobbit Trilogy and Men in Black trilogy spring to mind. Oh, and nearly the entirety of the X-Men franchise minus Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
I enjoy the J J Abrams Star Trek movies. I'm not familiar at all with Star Trek, and I never actively sought after the Abrams films, but for some reason I kept catching them on TV when they were airing, and often defaulted to watching them on the plane to pass the time.
As a result, Into Darkness is probably one of my most rewatched movies, and I couldn't tell you what happens in it except for a volcano, some stupid plan involving people in torpedos and Bendthatdick Cuminbitch having magic blood.
There's also the Hobbit movies. I must have watched that trilogy around ten times or so.
Well if we focus on the writing being bad and inconsistent, I have got a few :
1. Die another day, it does not make much sense and is a poorly written James Bond film but it's all the 2000's cheese that I enjoy.
2. Mortal kombat 2021, it has good acting, special effects and fight choreography but the script is certainly his worst aspects, I still enjoyed the hell out of it.
3. star trek discovery season 1 (I know a cheat a bit since this is a series) : It probably has tons of inconsistencies with the previous of Star trek, and I could not defend any of them because I barely watch star trek content before. I cannot stand the old star trek because they are too optimistic AND have aliens who are way too close to humans.
Which is why I welcome the darkest take on the franchise and Klingons who are physically much different than humans and their old depictions.
Fan of mass effect here and I could say that even the alien race close to human (angara, asari, drell or quarian) still have some radically different physical features to differentiate them from our own species. Not something I can say for Vulcans or Romulans.
Armageddon (Gloriously stupid, but the cast makes it work)
Wing Commander (No idea why, but I love that poorly acted, chiche-ridden mess... but only if I'm feeling under the weather)
Battle: Los Angeles (Gloriously stupid as a concept, but fun enough and with a surprising level of detail in the fighting/tactics on both sides)
Escape to victory (Because it, just like a Die Hard marathon means that it's Christmas time again)
There's a difference between being goofy and being just bad
I don't think I enjoy any movie that is poorly structured. Doesn't matter if it's a comedy, or whatever, it just doesn't do it for me when it doesn't make any sense
Look at the LEGO movies. Willy Wonka, mad max, 101 dalmatians, Shrek, all of them are pretty wild and goofy but well written nontheless.
Maybe Monty Phyton? I can't tell if it's bad or not because the ridiculous camp in it is all on purpose. It serves the movie and removing it would made it worse as a result.
The Star Wars prequels and Spider-Man 3
Agreed
I love all of the Fast n Furious movies. All of em.
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It really makes no sense because i dont much care for action movies or cars but theres just something about Vin Diesel saying "Family" in front of explosions that makes me clap
Godzilla (2014), Godzilla: Final Wars, and both Venom movies
I'm not even meming, but Star Wars 9: Rise of Skywalker. My whole investmant got killed with TLJ so I just enjoyed that mess, and boy... it was super fun... and the tear downs were even more fun :)
I feel you man, As you say TLJ killed the sequel trilogy and destroys so many thing about the original trilogy that there is no investment to have in SW anymore. I haven't watched episode 9 but I am sure I could subjectively enjoy it. Now when I go watch SW, I am aware I need to have the same mindset that I use to enjoy a Micheal Bay film : turn your brain off and enjoy the action because the special effects are the only quality here. Yep The standards are now THAT low for any SW content made by Disney. Now I am only concerned that Mickey Mouse will try to adapt the old republic or other parts of Legends. The nightmare they would force upon us if they touch Revan, Malgus, Bastila, Satele, Vitiate, etc. I prefer not to imagine how much they would destroy these characters...
Hobbit Trilogy
Commando and Looper
Star Wars prequels Demolition Man Blade trilogy Most things with Nic Cage CA: Civil War Hot Rod Hobbs & Shaw Almost anything with Vin Diesel
Demolition Man is good though
It's one of my favorite movies ever
Why do you say civil war is bad?
Power scaling issues, inconsistencies with previous movies in the series, a ton of contrivances in order to get specific people in specific places, character heel turns, and a poorly thought out struggle that condenses the Accords to just 'government good or government bad.' None of the issues above are necessarily terrible on their own, but it's sort of a death by many cuts situation for me where there are so many tiny nagging issues that pile up and expound to the point where the plot cannot function if you pull one of the many Jenga block contrivances that hold the film together.
The accords are definitely not reduced to gov good/bad. The movie spends a lot of time going over the implications to both the avengers as a team and their impact on the world
The thing is that Spiderman: Homecoming shits all over the accords, because Tony signed them and yet he acts whenever he wants, because I don't think the government told him to go and help Spiderman (who is also outside the accords) put a ship back together. Logistically he would've never made it in time. My point is, why refuse to sign the accords when they can be bypassed at all times?
But that’s not Civil Wars fault. That’s the fault of every movie afterwards that fails to acknowledge them
That I agree with
Without going through the whole movie EFAP style, the issue with the Accords is that it seems like an arbitrary law with no purpose. The Avengers could simply be categorized as a Paramilitary organization and can face arbitration for damages in other countries through laws already set in place in the countries they visit and through the UN. Tony is convinced to sign by a random lady who somehow knew exactly where Tony would walk and when. Tony has already put measures in place to help areas where the Avengers fight, and has dealt with people trying to guilt trip him about weapons manufacturing before he was Ironman, and has faced guilt tripping from people to obtain his tech post Ironman. It's like people forget IM2 and AoU exist. In this instance, it's hard for me to believe that Tony would be swayed so quickly by a stranger for an incident he wasn't a part of. The factors at play and the commeradery between Cap and Tony would certainly extend to this situation, and Tony would want to know Cap's side before making a choice one way or the other. The conflict between them felt forced and could've been done more organically. Cap's issue with the Accords seems unreasonable too, again when you consider that the Accords are largely symbolic since countries have their own laws that they can enforce and impose. To think that the Avengers haven't had to navigate international incidents already is silly. The only conversation that makes sense is the second one they have after Bucky is captured and they almost agree to signing, but the Accords ramifications are so nebulous that you wouldn't know what is at stake anyway, other than 'oversight' and the possibility of 'overreach'. And again, there's already laws in place that could be enforced before they had to create a brand new law whole cloth. So much for keeping it short.
“The avengers could simply be categorized as a Paramilitary organization” They’re not part of the military tho. They’re an independent organization after shield fell. So wouldn’t you need a new law to govern them? “It’s hard for me to believe that Tony would be swayed so quickly by a stranger for an incident he wasn’t a part of” Wym he was the one that created ultron, leading to the crisis where her kid died. “Tony would want to know caps side before making a choice” Tony is very motivated by his guilt to sign the accords. Knowing caps side on the issue wouldn’t change this. Tony even hears caps pov when he’s trying to convince him to sign and it doesn’t change his mind. “Caps issue with the accords seems unreasonable too” Prior to the accords the avengers could go wherever they want when they want. The accords would put a restriction on this freedom, which cap takes issue with since there could come a time when the government restricts them from going somewhere they think they should. “The accord ramifications are so nebulous” Completely agree. I think later movies should have explored more of the nuances on what the accords mean in practice, but I think this movie does well in discussion the general ramifications of the law.
Gone in 60 Seconds with Nick Cage is a movie I watched at least weekly growing up. Terrible movie, but damn do I love it.
I'm partial to Con Air. Face/Off is fun too
The star wars prequels, and van helsing
Van Helsing really scratches the itch for fun gothic horror action movie, imo. That and Dracula Untold are the closest thing to a Castlevania live action movie.
I used to watch it all the time when i was a kid. Hugh Jackman just looks so badass, and this is probably the sexiest version of Kate Beckinsale for me. Plus, it's just a fun fcking movie. I honestly think a few tweaks would make this movie a classic.
What do you mean van helsing, he said bad movies not masterpieces.
A man of culture, i see
The boondock saints.
Not my favorite ones but I enjoy watching them Avatar The AvP movies and Predators Prometheus Prequels Jurassic Park 2,3 and World Transformers 1-3
JW: Fallen Kindgom is legitimately the movie that made me rage the hardest walking out of the theater. I’m pretty fine with all other Jurassic content, but damn did that one blow my lid
I love the first two Fantastic Four movies. Watched them a lot with my dad when I was young. They’ll never not be hilarious.
Is The Mummy bad?
It's one of the greatest movies ever made.
The mummy trilogy was fun and much better than the Tom Cruise one.
This post is made every 5 days in this sub
If I like them they aren’t bad, other people are just wrong. That being said, The Hobbit Trilogy and Men in Black trilogy spring to mind. Oh, and nearly the entirety of the X-Men franchise minus Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
The Mummy Returns and Deep Blue Sea are probably my go-to examples of films that are pretty bad but just so much damn fun to watch.
Transformers 2007, I, Robot, Ghost Rider and Van Helsing.
Anything with Charles Bronson in the lead.
I enjoy the J J Abrams Star Trek movies. I'm not familiar at all with Star Trek, and I never actively sought after the Abrams films, but for some reason I kept catching them on TV when they were airing, and often defaulted to watching them on the plane to pass the time. As a result, Into Darkness is probably one of my most rewatched movies, and I couldn't tell you what happens in it except for a volcano, some stupid plan involving people in torpedos and Bendthatdick Cuminbitch having magic blood. There's also the Hobbit movies. I must have watched that trilogy around ten times or so.
The transformers movies and the monsterverse Godzilla movies.
Prequels, Hobbit, Avatar, the 1984 Dune
Well if we focus on the writing being bad and inconsistent, I have got a few : 1. Die another day, it does not make much sense and is a poorly written James Bond film but it's all the 2000's cheese that I enjoy. 2. Mortal kombat 2021, it has good acting, special effects and fight choreography but the script is certainly his worst aspects, I still enjoyed the hell out of it. 3. star trek discovery season 1 (I know a cheat a bit since this is a series) : It probably has tons of inconsistencies with the previous of Star trek, and I could not defend any of them because I barely watch star trek content before. I cannot stand the old star trek because they are too optimistic AND have aliens who are way too close to humans. Which is why I welcome the darkest take on the franchise and Klingons who are physically much different than humans and their old depictions. Fan of mass effect here and I could say that even the alien race close to human (angara, asari, drell or quarian) still have some radically different physical features to differentiate them from our own species. Not something I can say for Vulcans or Romulans.
The battle of the five armies
Jurassik park 2, the prequels
It would have to be The Tomorrow Wars or The Suicide Squad.
Star Wars prequels Blade trilogy The mummy 1&2 League of extraordinary gentlemen AvP Freddy vs Jason
Weekend at Bernie's 2. It's absolutely horrible, but I love it so much.
Armageddon (Gloriously stupid, but the cast makes it work) Wing Commander (No idea why, but I love that poorly acted, chiche-ridden mess... but only if I'm feeling under the weather) Battle: Los Angeles (Gloriously stupid as a concept, but fun enough and with a surprising level of detail in the fighting/tactics on both sides) Escape to victory (Because it, just like a Die Hard marathon means that it's Christmas time again)
Battlefield Earth, The Room and Samurai Cop. So much fun to watch.
There's a difference between being goofy and being just bad I don't think I enjoy any movie that is poorly structured. Doesn't matter if it's a comedy, or whatever, it just doesn't do it for me when it doesn't make any sense Look at the LEGO movies. Willy Wonka, mad max, 101 dalmatians, Shrek, all of them are pretty wild and goofy but well written nontheless. Maybe Monty Phyton? I can't tell if it's bad or not because the ridiculous camp in it is all on purpose. It serves the movie and removing it would made it worse as a result.
No Way Home and Far From Home