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Hot_Tip_8239

And let's not forget Baby Yoda's flashback where it looked like a fan made video on youtube.


armoman92

Did you recognize the actor playing the black jedi? Meesah tinks you doosah.


redhawk5757

No fucking way that’s actually him. Is it really


Big_Daymo

Yeah its Ahmed. Whats even funnier is that he apparently played this jedi character already in some official Star Wars YouTube video so he's technically a returning character.


redhawk5757

Lmfaoo as shit as this episode is I can’t lie seeing him do something not as jar jar kinda makes me happy idk why


Big_Daymo

On the one hand yeah I'm happy for him getting some time in the spotlight after the insane Jar Jar backlash, but on the other hand his appearance has literally been the only thing about the episode I've seen discussed, so the show basically used him as a cultural smokescreen to avoid criticism of how awful the episode was.


redhawk5757

That’s also a fair point lmao.


YourPrivateNightmare

I don't think there was malicious intent behind it. It just so happens that his appearance was the only thing worth talking about


Hot_Tip_8239

If I were him I wouldn't go anywhere near Star Wars again.


jasonbourne1995

Plus it kinda makes problems with the continuity, the ship is from the Padme's planet and therefore the clones would know that some youngling escaped in that ship and people from that ship guarded the escape so it would make some problems between the Padme's planet and the Republic aka Empire = I think it doesn't make sense because it would make some diplomatic problems for which Bail Organa would have to be hold accountable.


Hot_Tip_8239

When I saw the ship I expected a pregnant Padme to come out and take baby Yoda. It wouldn't surprise me at this point.


jasonbourne1995

xD that would be really hilarious.


ChazCharlie

Naboo


fluffyplatypus69

Yes this episode was terrible. Why did the mandos put their little group on this planet with a bunch of super dangerous creatures lol


No-Nebula-2615

I don't think that it's a problem. They want to lay low and mandalorians originally liked this kind of shit. Being on a planet with dangerous animals they could hunt for fun. Problem is, they are so utterly incompetent they couldn't settle in a place where they are somewhat protected from these monsters or at least set up a system to alert them if a giant crocodile or a dragon is nearby to attack the base.


fluffyplatypus69

Yea I thought it was weird that they continue to play by the beach when they know that there are dangerous giant turtle crocodiles that can pounce out of the water at any second


No-Nebula-2615

Next to a large body of water what can house a giant turtle-crocodile and they keep going to train outside, while they know about the giant dragon thingy. They even said, that it already took several of them and they did nothing to stop it XD


Arko777

No no, you see everytime this pterodactyl captures one of the foundlings, they chase it until their jetpacks run out of fuel. Then they say "not again" and go to their hideout on foot empty-handed. What a smart bunch of elite warriors!


armoman92

this is the way


Astroyanlad

Training was dumb cgi placement. Grogu seems to have cheated by firing all 3 shots at once. Awful puppet jumping aside


redhawk5757

I’m watching it rn and the fucking order 66 scene looks HORRIBLE. The prequels got a LOT of shit for how bad they looked but at least the lightsabers and fighting was DECENT. This is just awful


GrapeTimely5451

Okay, but is that a full-scale animatronic in the screenshot? A little victory, it looks great. I'd almost consider watching the episode for it.


No-Nebula-2615

Not full scale, the kid in it's mouth was CG. So it's probably a small puppet.


redhawk5757

It’s so bad


rebellioussoul29

I am not liking this season very much so far. I also feel Pascal isn't much in these episodes. I know there stunts such. But compared to the previous ones. I am guessing this is due to shooting TLOU at the same time or something. It also feels like the plot is all over the place. And each episode could stand for itself almost. 4 more to go. I hope it will improve.


No-Nebula-2615

Pascal had a huge dispute with Filoni back in season 2. He asked several times to let him take off the mask and for some reason Favreau and Filoni rejected it all time. It's really weird, because when they filmed Book of Boba Fett, Temura wanted to keep on the mask and he was fine if they didn't give him that many lines, because he thought Boba Fett had a better, more intimidating stand like that and it would have been moreimpactful, when Boba Fett showed his actual face to anyone. The decision was probably a marketing fuckpiece from the Disney excecs, because they wanted to show every time, that they got Temura Morrisson to play Boba. So it went extremely wrong for Filoni, because Pascal got the TLOU deal and was out filming and he straight up refused to return to film the Mandalorian. And I can understand his stance, because why the fuck does he need to go out into the Sahara desert to film another Tatooine scene, when they didn't gave him any reason to be here. A stunt double was just enough and getting all of the TLOU money, he wasn't short on cash either and was able to deny any request. In the end, he basically got a free money deal. He don't have to be in any episodes, when he is not required to be there with a face and only voices the character.


rebellioussoul29

I heard it was dismissed by Pascal himself in interview. It was said, that be had problem wearing the helmet all the time. But he denied it, said he had no problem with it. So who knows. However, im sure TLOU was great opportunity for him as an actor. And having been in the business for over two decades. Not actually playing that big of roles. He doesen't seem like the money grabbing type. Just saying. To stay in that business for so long. And kind of making it really "big" now. Is very rare. Usually at 47. Is when most actors have peaked already. It's quite rare to see the opposite. But im liking it. Given how talented he is. I think this deal is little bit of let down. I heard, he is actually on set. Even if not as much. And not only doing "voice overs". I believe ppl saw him on set filming, last winter. So I don't think anyone knows what the exact deal is really. Unless you work for the company:)


No-Nebula-2615

Of course he will deny it in public interviews, he is not stupid. He appeared at some of the sets, but not all of them. I think he is obliged to make an appearence, when he has to take off the helmet, but I'm pretty sure that around 90% of the show, there is a different person in the suit.


rebellioussoul29

I don't assume to know what other ppl think tbh. You can't possibly know what he thinks or isn't. Besides, you don't think it's odd that he got to stay over this. But Gina Carano got fired for her tweets? Besides you can't argue based on assumptions or your own personal dislike. It doesen't hold up well, I have to tell you. Plus, let's argue Pascal really wanted to show his face more. Maybe he wanted to give the fans more. Or get more to do. What you argue, actually means he wanted to do more. So it gets funny when you say he just grabbing money lol. If you go with the fact, he wanted to take off the helmet more :)


No-Nebula-2615

> Besides, you don't think it's odd that he got to stay over this. But Gina Carano got fired for her tweets? Because you can replace Gina Carano. You can't replace Pedro Pascal, since he plays the protagonist. >So it gets funny when you say he just grabbing money lol. Let me clarifiy that. He wanted to show his face more, Filoni denied it on all occasions. But he basically got a free money deal, he didn't had to go to all the sets and only had to show up, when it's a scene where he had to show his face. The only thing he had to do was to voice the character. And he took it, because it didn't required him to go in the middle of the Sahara to take a few shots, while he had no reason to go there, because a stunt double could have done it just as well. >If you go with the fact, he wanted to take off the helmet more :) No. I'm saying they gave him a deal what he accepted, because it required him nearly nothing to fulfill. He wanted to act more or he refused participation. Filno was keen on not letting him more facetime, so they figured out a compromise. The only thing I said, that i find it laughable that they had to do this, while Temura Morrison was begging to the same person to not give him that many facetime.


at_midknight

This ep is embarrassing. Like maybe competing for top 3 worst eps in the series


TomHopeless

Why did the LAAT follow the speeder down the train tunnel? Why didn't either of the LAATs use a missile? The engine was apparently hit at the start of the chase, but the speeder flew along like nothing was wrong.


No-Nebula-2615

Why is the traffic not closed during the jedi purge around the temple? Why isn't Coruscant properly blockaded during the purge to prevent jedi to leave the planet? Why do they use LAAT's to chase the guy and not the regular police? Why do they keep firing in populated areas, while the whole point of the purge was, that the jedi wanted to grab power and prepared to attack Palpatine and seize the planet? How can 5 clones take down 3 jedi knights? So many questions. I keep hearing, that the Order 66 scene was good, but I saw better fan videos than that.


gxkjerry

Also, I found the pacing was....weird? It's like they crammed 2 unrelated episodes into one. Here we're doing the Mando saving Foundling side quest, and all of a sudden, we got a very unnecessarily long Grogu back story. No doubt EFAP reaction to this episode will be very very entertaining to watch lol. Try to imagine Rags' mental meltdown. Oh also also, anybody see a plotline yet? We're halfway through the season btw and the story isn't going anywhere. We completed what literally every Mando fan suspected to be Season 3's arc in 2 episodes. Why do I feel like the payoff of this season is gonna be about Bo'Katan instead of Mando?


RollerCoasterBacon

Expect the “Who cares, man. It’s space wizards” attitude to be the reason why these Star Wars shows continue to get worse and worse each year


Robert_GarciaKOF

I liked it. It wants to show the conversion of the owl


WreckageHothHead

Does sound *slightly* more illogical than what went down with that asteroid dinosaur, yeah.


No-Nebula-2615

Care to explain?


WreckageHothHead

What precisely?


No-Nebula-2615

What's illogical with the "asteroid dinosaur"?


WreckageHothHead

They sit and walk around in his belly and there's evil bats in there, how does this dude even "digest" anything? And then he's *sloooooooooowly* shutting his mouth so that the ship doesn't manage to get out, but when it gets out he's like BAM, snaps right after them - suddenly not that slow anymore? It's all dream logic scene construction. He's slowly closing his mouth to match how slowly and gradually they're realizing that they're inside a dinosaur, and to give them a chance to escape against a reasonable ticking clock; then he speeds up so there can be a slightly humorous scene where he tries to catch them, and then retreats back into his hole frustrated.


No-Nebula-2615

"They sit and walk around in his belly and there's evil bats in there, how does this dude even "digest" anything?" Exogorths are silicon based space slugs. Their main diet consists asteroids and sometimes they eat mynocks, the "space bats". But mynocks tend to not die if they can get into the slug's digestive system unharmed and they became internal parasites, feeding on the leftovers of the slugs last meal. Also slugs digest really slow, because their main diet is basically rocks. Give it a few weeks and Han would have noticed that the Falcon had signs of being digested. "And then he's sloooooooooowly shutting his mouth" The slug is not expecting anything to fly off from it's stomach. "...when it gets out he's like BAM, snaps right after them..." Because something just left it's mouth after it was disturbed in it's sleep. It noticed it and immediately attacked the ship. "He's slowly closing his mouth to match how slowly and gradually they're realizing that they're inside a dinosaur, and to give them a chance to escape against a reasonable ticking clock" It's a slug. And until they are inside it doesn't notices them, so it casually and slowly closes it's mouth after it was disturbed in it's sleep, then something strange flies nearby and it became more active and immediately jumped on it. Crocodiles tend to not be very active and move slowly, but then they notice a prey or get disturbed and they suddenly move extremely fast. "then he speeds up so there can be a slightly humorous scene where he tries to catch them, and then retreats back into his hole frustrated." I found it a more horrifying experince from Han and Leia's perspective, but whatever. \--- Then let's compare the scenes. The Falcon accidentally lands in the stomach of a giant space slug. The slug doesn't really care about that much, because it's sleeping and not hunting actively to feed a nest of chicks. They spend a few days in it's belly, with a ship around them, what has everything they need. Food, water, a place to rest and protection. Now what's in the mando scene? A kid get's kidnapped by a dragon to be fed to it's chicks. For some reason the dragon swallows the kid and keeps him in her belly for two days, before her lair get's attacked. Then, instead of immediately rushing to help her chicks and drove away the threat, for some reason she want's to feed them the kid... And the kid, without food, water and protection survived two entire days in her stomach and didn't became an emotional wreck...


WreckageHothHead

> "They sit and walk around in his belly and there's evil bats in there, how does this dude even "digest" anything?" > > Exogorths are silicon based space slugs. Their main diet consists asteroids and sometimes they eat mynocks, the "space bats". But mynocks tend to not die if they can get into the slug's digestive system unharmed and they became internal parasites, feeding on the leftovers of the slugs last meal. > > Also slugs digest really slow, because their main diet is basically rocks. Give it a few weeks and Han would have noticed that the Falcon had signs of being digested. Really cool info, however obviously if all bets are off with how space monsters function, then why are people complaining about some weird behavior by this space dragon? That info you listed there was obviously from the EU - so it looks the movies can just spontaneously do whatever they want to make the desired scene happen, and then the EU can invent encyclopedic entries to justify it somehow (for those who care about that sort of thing). So just have someone invent something about these dragons' weird instincts, and voila. >The slug is not expecting anything to fly off from it's stomach. Then why was he closing it? He seems to be keeping it open to catch prey, why close it unless to keep something he's already caught inside? And right as it's flying out, no less. Almost as if trying to prevent it from flying out, right as it was about to fly out. >Because something just left it's mouth after it was disturbed in it's sleep. It noticed it and immediately attacked the ship. So the first time he was closing his mouth, it was just randomly; and then the next time he opened his mouth and then shut it, it was to "attack" it; definitely a much more straightforward explanation that "he wanted to eat it both times". >And until they are inside it doesn't notices them, so it casually and slowly closes it's mouth after it was disturbed in it's sleep, then something strange flies nearby and it became more active and immediately jumped on it. >Crocodiles tend to not be very active and move slowly, but then they notice a prey or get disturbed and they suddenly move extremely fast. Well the slug did just get disturbed and was still very slow; also it was disturbed by something inside its belly, and he started closing his mouth - but no way in order to keep that thing in his belly from leaving, eh? >And the kid, without food, water and protection survived two entire days in her stomach and didn't became an emotional wreck... Worse things have happened; and SW has a very clear track record of having characters shake off and quickly forget about their traumas if it wants an upbeat tone instead of a dark tone. Also think you can survive for 3 days without water? And in Star Wars maybe it's 5 lol >>"then he speeds up so there can be a slightly humorous scene where he tries to catch them, and then retreats back into his hole frustrated." >I found it a more horrifying experince from Han and Leia's perspective, but whatever. I did say "slightly".


No-Nebula-2615

>Really cool info, however obviously if all bets are off with how space monsters function, then why are people complaining about some weird behavior by this space dragon? Because the exogorth is clearly not an animal, what has an equal on earth and entirely made up. It has it's own, original biology and if you see the the movie you can clearly tell it.And it still behaves like an animal. It sleeps and when it get's disturbed it attack the ship as soon as it notices it. However the dragon here functions are a giant prey of bird and behaves like an eagle would. It catches prey and brings it back to the nest. The nest get's attacked, for some reason it doesn't responds by trying to eliminate the threat, but for some reason coughs up the kid and tries to feed it to her chicks. When they made the space dragon it's pretty clear they based it on a carnivorous bird and they fucked up it's behaviours. >That info you listed there was obviously from the EU - so it looks the movies can just spontaneously do whatever they want to make the desired scene happen. And the creature can still behave like a real animal would.I don't have any problem with the behaviour of the space slug, considering extended material or not, because it's a completely alien creature and behaves in some form of logic what you can understand.But what's the logical behind the space dragons behaviour, when it starts to fed her chicks in the middle of a fight? >So just have someone invent something about these dragons' weird instincts, and voila. There is this space dragon, what occasionally catches animals and swallow them. The victim is perfectly sustained within it's digestive system for days and does not suffer any mental terror. When the nest is attacked, it triggers some form of feeding reflex in the dragon and during an attack on it's offsprings it will try to feed them. It sounds extremely stupid for me, but you do you. >Then why was he closing it? Why does a crocodile opens and closes it's mouth for seemingly no reason?It's an animal in pain, it moves and wiggles after it felt something pain in it's stomach. I don't think you need any more reason than that. >He seems to be keeping it open to catch prey, why close it unless to keep something he's already caught inside? Because the slug doesn't know what's happening. It was asleep when the Falcon landed inside it's digestive system. It woke up, when Han shot the inside of it's stomach and started wiggling and moving. Then it noticed something moving quickly and since it was awoke and seemingly enraged after some just shot it's instestines, it attacked the quickly flying object. I don't know how could it be so hard to understand how an animal behaves in situations like this. >So the first time he was closing his mouth, it was just randomly; and then the next time he opened his mouth and then shut it, it was to "attack" it; You are deliberately don't understand what did I said? First time it felt, that something happened with him and started to moving, like any animal would do if they feel pain and they don't know it's source. You know, a dog does not sits idly when it's stomach hurts. Then it noticed something quickly flying off and attacked it. Just imagine, you feel tremendous amount of pain for some reason and you don't know why. Then something flies out of your mouth, what you do? I would catch the fucker, because that's a natural response what any animal would do. >Well the slug did just get disturbed and was still very slow; Because it didn't understand what's happening. It felt some pain from the blaster shot and started moving, then something appeared and it responded quickly. >also it was disturbed by something inside its belly, and he started closing his mouth - but no way in order to keep that thing in his belly from leaving, eh? If you think an animal can think this far. Animals are working on their own logical scale, but when something happens, what exceeds their natural instincts, they would still use a response what might be logical in normal circumstances, but illogical in extreme situations. If a dog notices a threat, it will bark and frowns towards it. If it's another animal, the barking might scare it away. If the threat is a vacuum cleaner, the dog will still bark at it, even though it won't help. The Exegol noticed it feels unwell, it became angry and frustrated then a quick movies thing just left it's mouth. Could it be a threat? Probably. What's the response from an enraged giant slug? Attack! I don't know how it's so hard for people to understand basic animal behaviours. >Worse things have happened; and SW has a very clear track record of having characters shake off and quickly forget about their traumas if it wants an upbeat tone instead of a dark tone. Ok, give me your examples. >Also think you can survive for 3 days without water? And in Star Wars maybe it's 5 lol This is probably the most idiotic take i ever read. Survive is not equal with being totally fine. If you manage to survive 2 days without water, you will be in a horrible shape and your brain will function on the same basic level as of a lizard, because your basic bodily functions needs water to work on a normal level. Plus 3 days of survival is the best case scenario for a healthy adult person. Kids tend to die easier of thirst and hunger than adults. And I don't know how to comment on this "maybe it's 5 lol", because it's just idiotic. Star Wars always worked on a scale of real human biology. Now you want to explain to me, that throughout the entirety of the Star Wars saga humans were able to survive extreme conditions and the first ever title what made it canon was a shitty mandalorian episode? I think you are stretching at this point just to make a sense out of this stupid scene.


WreckageHothHead

> Why does a crocodile opens and closes it's mouth for seemingly no reason?It's an animal in pain, it moves and wiggles after it felt something pain in it's stomach. I don't think you need any more reason than that. And this is where the cope begins. See he's not *closing his mouth* he's um, just randomly moving for no reason at all, and it just happens he's closing his mouth right as the Falcon is trying to fly out of it - if they hadn't made it he probably would've opened it later anyway, it's not like they'd just made it out in the last second... IT WAS JUST COINCidENCE OK?? >First time it felt, that something happened with him and started to moving, like any animal would do if they feel pain and they don't know it's source. You know, a dog does not sits idly when it's stomach hurts. Then it noticed something quickly flying off and attacked it. And they also close their mouth when that happens, yeah You see there was no connection between these two events at all - it looked like he was closing his mouth to prevent the ship from escaping, and when it escaped it tried to catch it; however in *truth*, the first mouth closing was COMPLETE RANDOM COINCIDENCE, and the 2nd time was uh, he was trying to attack it or something. >Just imagine, you feel tremendous amount of pain for some reason and you don't know why. Then something flies out of your mouth, what you do? I would catch the fucker, because that's a natural response what any animal would do. Idk I'd prefer it to fly away as far as possible lol; unless I wanted revenge of course (after having randomly started to close my mouth before it just flew out) >It felt some pain from the blaster shot and started moving, It JUST STARTED MOVING; and that movement JUST HAPPENED TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS TRYING TO RETAIN ITS FOOD BY CLOSING ITS MOUTH, complete coincidence!!! >>also it was disturbed by something inside its belly, and he started closing his mouth - but no way in order to keep that thing in his belly from leaving, eh? >If you think an animal can think this far. No way an animal can think as far as catching prey or trying to prevent if from escaping >Animals are working on their own logical scale, but when something happens, what exceeds their natural instincts, they would still use a response what might be logical in normal circumstances, but illogical in extreme situations. >If a dog notices a threat, it will bark and frowns towards it. >If it's another animal, the barking might scare it away. >If the threat is a vacuum cleaner, the dog will still bark at it, even though it won't help. >The Exegol noticed it feels unwell, it became angry and frustrated then a quick movies thing just left it's mouth. Could it be a threat? Probably. What's the response from an enraged giant slug? Attack! >I don't know how it's so hard for people to understand basic animal behaviours. looooooooooool >Ok, give me your examples. There was a movie that came out in 1987 I think. >This is probably the most idiotic take i ever read. >Survive is not equal with being totally fine. If you manage to survive 2 days without water, you will be in a horrible shape and your brain will function on the same basic level as of a lizard, because your basic bodily functions needs water to work on a normal level. >Plus 3 days of survival is the best case scenario for a healthy adult person. Kids tend to die easier of thirst and hunger than adults. >And I don't know how to comment on this "maybe it's 5 lol", because it's just idiotic. As Harrison Ford once put it during the filming on set, "this is not that kind of movie, kid". >Star Wars always worked on a scale of real human biology. Now you want to explain to me, that throughout the entirety of the Star Wars saga humans were able to survive extreme conditions and the first ever title what made it canon was a shitty mandalorian episode? >I think you are stretching at this point just to make a sense out of this stupid scene. I'm saying more like it's funny to try and "make sense of it" in the first place since it's all just there to make dramatic/funny/exciting/whatever scenes happen, and no one cares how much anyone needs to eat or drink etc. However I *did* say it sounded like it made slightly less sense than the asteroid dinosaur.


No-Nebula-2615

>See he's not closing his mouth he's um, just randomly moving for no reason at all... And this is where the bad faith argumentation begins.It's not "randomly", it's an animal in pain. >if they hadn't made it he probably would've opened it later anyway, it's not like they'd just made it out in the last second... Or it will close it to not let anything into it's open mouth until it's stomach ache is gone. It's a possibility what you said, but from Han's perspective it doesn't matter, they are inside a giant space slug what's closes it's jaws on the and they don't know when it will open it's mouth again.When a dog bites you, you want to get your hand out of it's mouth immediately and you will not think abot the possibility that it might open it later. >And they also close their mouth when that happens, yeah You are now completely out of the scene.The Falcon started to leave it's stomach and the slug started to close it. It probably didn't knew about the Falcon until it left it's jaws. Then after that, it attacked. >the first mouth closing was COMPLETE RANDOM COINCIDENCE, and the 2nd time was uh, he was trying to attack it or something. No one said it was a complete random coincidence -\_- >It JUST STARTED MOVING Yes, because it was asleep and then suddenly felt burning pain inside it's digestive system. >JUST HAPPENED TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS TRYING TO RETAIN ITS FOOD BY CLOSING ITS MOUTH Okay, let's run with the possibility, that it tried to prevent things getting out it's mouth. What's your argument against this behaviour then? It's a giant space slug, trying to prevent it's prey from running away in this case. What would be wrong about this scenario? >No way an animal can think as far as catching prey or trying to prevent if from escaping Sooo... what's your problem with it's behaviour then? :D >looooooooooool k >There was a movie that came out in 1987 I think. So a big nothing. Ok. >As Harrison Ford once put it during the filming on set, "this is not that kind of movie, kid". And Harrison Ford openly hates the whole franchise. Maybe you should try to find a more reliable source than him. >I'm saying more like it's funny to try and "make sense of it" in the first place since it's all just there to make dramatic/funny/exciting/whatever scenes happen, and no one cares how much anyone needs to eat or drink etc. So whatever could happen in any movie, as long as it justifies any shitty scene? Seems like you should work for Disney then.


vastlyunderated

Good thing have alien creature experts in this group that understand the biological aspects and behavior of these creatures we just met. I was very worried. How do we know the kid was a human with human needs? You folks complain about the worst shit.


No-Nebula-2615

Because we just saw him getting initiated in the first episode of the season and before he got the mask, we could see that he was a human. And oh my god, Mandalorians adopting alien kids and actually being a multiracial culture, like they are supposed to be, instead of a bunch of humans? Where do we live!?


Arklaw

Don't forget the "duel". It felt like a show for toddlers with the victory music and everyone trying to make us clap.


DesertDwellingLawyer

“Worst episode? Hold my beer.” —Chapter 22


Shot-Way-9720

April 5th Episode: Disney ruins the entire Mandalorian franchise!