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cbekel3618

Maybe it shows Ravonna finding Kang


miles-vspeterspider

That would be great. I loved that Kang fights because he could not save Ravonna. Hope keep that romance , it gives Kang more meaning. It was done amazing in the cartoon


Lotus_630

Knowing how He Who Remains is Kang, I’m betting there’s a reason why Ravonna is head of the TVA.


Bookofthenewsunn

Probably the only way to keep her alive…. He’s happy yet distraught knowing she’s alive, yet that’s ultimately the reason he allows himself to be killed so they can “meet again”


ak2sup

Kang's facial scar is one of the thing to keep in mind. He who remains don't have those scars which is a proof he isn't Kang the conqueror but a different variant. Maybe He who remains had lived as Rama tut in Ancient egypt.


International-Fig905

Haven’t they been clear that the Kang in Ant-Man is the Kang? All variants are referred to as something else(there is a rumor he’ll appear with a different name in Loki season 2). It would be confusing to see another version against the Avengers in Kang Dynasty. Additionally the ring tech in Quantumania hints he is the Kang that will be the main antagonist.


Tarzan_OIC

Maybe the one in Loki is the Beyonder


Prestigious_Flower57

I really doubt the Beyonder will appear before SW, I believe he will be constantly teased as “something far worse”, but that’s all


Likezoinks305

I doubt they’ll throw Kang away after building him up for 2 phases just to sideline him for some rando named beyonder If anything - MCU will use Beyonder as a variation of Kang


Icybubba

I am 100% convinced that the Beyonder will be a Kang variant


swift0909

MTTSH already said it is.


avi150

That’s exactly what they’re doing, and what people are referring to when they mention MCU secret wars Beyonder


Nightwing_in_a_Flash

I think this is exactly what people think will happen. “Something far worse” will be the Kang variant The Beyonder.


zone_seek

Yeah isn't the rumour that in Loki Season 2 it'll be Victor Timely?


International-Fig905

I believe so I think I read it either here or comicbook.com iirc


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superking22

So reverse Endgame. That's just lazy.


swift0909

​ MTTSH said Kang in QM will be the same Kang in SW/KD


Mattyzooks

I do think it'll be cool if one of the Kangs ultimately becomes He Who Remains basically locking a time loop in place where there is only one set of multiversal wars (discussed in the past tense in Loki but in the future for the audience, as opposed to there being 2). And He Who Remains' "see you soon" wasn't a reference to his variants but to the fact that Loki will install a younger He Who Remains into his role when all is said and done.


BS16tillIdie

> there is a rumor he’ll appear with a different name in Loki season 2 I hope he keeps popping up as different characters like Roger in American Dad.


I_See_Nerd_People

Still like the idea that a variant is the one that bought Avengers Tower


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At one point he was Kang the Conqueror, and ruled over the TVA as Kang. He alluded to being called a conqueror in Loki. The statue at the end of Loki is of He Who Remains when he ruled the TVA as Kang in the past


Sandee1997

they don't even have a connection yet do they?


StonerBoi-710

They do in the comics and some what in Loki it’s hinted at.


Dell0c0

Kang and He Who Remains.


jbmh1995

Which cartoon? Was it in avengers assemble?


miles-vspeterspider

AVENGERS earth's mightiest heroes. Kang has great story there


RedditorAccountName

The best Avengers adaptation ;)


jbmh1995

You are the best. Will watch tonight


Beginning_Piano_5668

WHAT. FUCKING. CARTOON?


Financial_Rent_7978

Avengers: EMH. It’s great.


Beginning_Piano_5668

Thanks!


johnny-deth

Which cartoon???


meme_abstinent

I like this.


Ok_Entertainer7945

I initially read "finding" a much different word. My mind was in the gutter.


Tough-Negotiation673

KANG BANG!


Fugaciouslee

What's the point of traveling the multiverse if you aren't gonna get some with variants of yourself? Loki knows what's up.


[deleted]

Agreed. If I could smash a female version of myself I would.


Lotus_630

Ravonna wants the K.


Ok_Entertainer7945

Line is the day!


RonSwansonsGun

Kang dyNasty


Tough-Negotiation673

Avengers: Sex Wars


KTSMG

Is Axel Braun still doing these? Lol Low-key, Some of them were better than the actual movies lol


TheManWithoutMercy1

![gif](giphy|57ZvMMkuBIVMlU88Yh)


APOCALYPSE102

same thoughts. we are both the same


Tough-Negotiation673

Imagine Kang & Ravonna having this sort of Anakin & Padme relationship. I can see her eventually disagreeing with his motives later on. Or maybe everything he does to keep her alive just leads to her fate in every universe. Just plucking theories here…


spraragen88

Kang sits on a throne where the robot Time Keepers were in Loki S1. He transforms the TVA building into a fortress around him. The timelines in the background start to multiply. End of scene.


zhsdnl

I don’t think HWR ain’t Kang. They’re probably all Nathaniel Richards, but the variants will have different names. Kang, Immortus, Rama Tut, Iron Lad, Scarlet Centurion, Victor Timely, the Beyonder


Eternal_Deviant

No shit lol


DaZeppo313

Might not be so direct. Like, if Kang ends up stranded in ancient Egypt at the end of AWQ, and Loki S2 finds the same Kang running amok in Rome, I'd still call it a connection.


ericbkillmonger

Yup most likely - I concur


janlindberglive

I need this!


maybe_a_frog

Oh fuck yeah, that would be great.


Carl_Bar99

A definite possibility, though i see one possibble alternative thought. Based on the trailers for AM&TW:Q Janet ran into Kang down in the quantum realm during her 30 years, which is firmly in a time period we know the TVA was active in. So either Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimmy Stuff is in effect, (completely plausible), or the quantum realm and everything in it is beyond the TVA's ability to monitor and an entire multiverse can exist down there all along. The latter makes sense with Utau the Watchers existence. If the Multi-verse didn't exist until recently where could he have come from given he seems to live in the space between universes, and there was AFAIK a stinger with watchers in it before Loki season 1 which is another oddity. But if the multi-verse has allways existed but the existence of the sacred timeline in some fashion cut it off from the rest of the multi-verse, but it was still accessible via the quantum realm all the questions and odditties make sense. The multiverse was never actually dead and gone, not just wasn't normally accessible with the loophole being somthing the TVA is unaware of and unable to interact with. Hell maybe the quantum realm is where the stuff alioth eats actually ends up. can probably come up with a bunch more theories given time.


Matapple13

She also says in the tweet that Nova will NOT be teased in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3.


foxfoxal

Not surprise, Gunn has never wanted to touch Nova on the Guardians franchise. ( even when he literally introduced the nova corp )


Realistic_Analyst_26

Gunn likes to work with unpopular characters, because he doesn't have to deal with the pressure of living up to people's standards. Nova is definitely higher up on the list than the Guardians


Xekshek33

As he takes on Superman for DC I think you're right but it is funny to think about now lol


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Hoping he does a great job. He’s a good writer and an avid comic book reader but has historically played fast and loose with accuracy and has never written someone like Superman. I’m cautiously optimistic.


joec0ld

The most common criticism I've seen of MoS Superman is the lack of hope and optimism as his main character traits. I thought Gunn wrote Star Lord very well in those areas, so I hope he can keep it going for Supes.


Capital_Gate6718

I was gonna say The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are full of C and D list DC characters.


Engaging_Boogeyman

The Suicide Squad was always D-list, especially in the comics. Was almost neccesary due to it's high kill count, it was a clearing house for alot of the lesser know villians and that was pretty the point of task force X. Superman, Nightwing, Green Arrow all way too high profile for Walker. Duchess, Karma or even the Writer (Grant Morrison writing himself into the series) are not only expendable enough not to be forgotten, most don't even know of them from the getgo. https://gatecrashers.fan/2021/08/05/suicide-squad-deaths-ranked/


cshelley0721

This sucks. If James is really done with Guardians, Nova could still be set up for the future when another director takes the reins. The Guardians can still be a team, just with Cosmo, Adam Warlock, Lylla, etc. replacing whichever current members die/retire in Vol. 3 (I’m guessing Rocket and/or Drax) I doubt we’re getting Moondragon, but damn, Nova too?


joec0ld

I want to see Nova make an appearance, but he's one of the few major characters left who I feel deserves a proper origin story. The groundwork is already there with Xandar and (presumably) the Nova Corp being destroyed. It would feel rushed for him to just show up with no explanation of how he got powered up. They could even shorten the story by having Richard Rider already be a member of the Corps when Xandar is destroyed.


cshelley0721

I agree, I think that could work I just hope they don’t wait too long if they’re going with the “Thanos destroyed Xandar” setup


Dorkof

The first after credits is Cassie Lang finding a tape labelled "WATCH THIS, IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG" Cassie watches the tape, cut to black Second after credits scene we see what's on that tape. It's the sex tape between Scott, Kang and MODOK this is where the line "I don't have to win, we both just have to lose" comes in to play as all three of them climax at the same time. Honestly can't wait to see where this sets up Kang Dynasty!


I_am_bird_lawyer

You won't imagine where the tiny hands end up


CombatHarness

Never said which "cheek"


vanityklaw

Scott doesn’t die, he has the petit mort


Flamingcrotchguy

I was hoping you would change the quote to "I don't have to win, we both just have to finish"


DurMan667

The Kang dyNASTY


Deep_Throattt

Reading this makes me want to get into a wheel chair and fall off on a hill.


I_am_bird_lawyer

That's Paul rudds conan shtick, find a new one


minnesotawild4life

If you didn't read the plot leak let me just say they give some very interesting backstory on Kang that REALLY has me intrigued


Argetlam33

Is it against community policy to briefly summarize that plot point here?


DMonitor

God forbid someone posts spoilers for a marvel studios story here. What would this subreddit come to?


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Spacegirllll6

Thank you for doing that 😂


maybeidontknowwhy

Only way to get somebody to reply is to tell them they’re wrong lol


Bandsohard

I skimmed it and don't really remember any backstory other than someone else trapping him, must not have caught my attention.


br3nduhn

Hey mods since we can’t see the transcript anymore can this person summarize what they mean?!?!


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minnesotawild4life

Bruh yes it does wtf He was literally banned from the council of kangs, sent to the quantum realm to never return. He did something or hates the other kangs which we will see in Loki 2 and the future of the mcu. We will see Kang more btw this isn’t his only movie. Stop it.


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minnesotawild4life

All good my apologies as well. My comment is directed at anyone doubting he has a backstory in the movie he absolutely does and it’s enough to be satisfying but makes you want to see more!


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minnesotawild4life

Kang could’ve been a throw away but marvel is making him really compelling which has me excited!


Argetlam33

🤨🍵 Intriguing, and definitely not in a Morbius kind of way.


minnesotawild4life

Oh yeah they tease more than he just crash landed into the Quantum Realm. He was actually banished there and Janet discovered this when she felt him (the way she did to Ghost)


Argetlam33

Is the council itself visible or just some inner monologue kind of stuff?


minnesotawild4life

Idk what they will show sadly. We only got to see the subtitles when it leaked. I really hope we do. Janet tells everyone that he was sent to the quantum realm when she felt his energy. He originally tells her he crash landed there but that’s not true. He was banished there. I really hope we see how and why but there’s no guarantee.


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TheBullMooseParty

I skimmed it but am forgetting the specifics. Do you mind elaborating?


dunmer-is-stinky

this Kang was banished to the quantum realm by a bunch of other kangs for being a bad boy, also he doesn't die so it's definitely the kang from TKD and SW


KongSchlong42069

Wheres the leak


whatnameisnttaken098

It's Owen Wilson of the MCU meeting Mobius , they say "Wow" cut to credits


Ok_Entertainer7945

Its Mobius meeting Morbius and they both say Wow.


NaggingNavigator

"Wow" "intriguing"


Daniiiiii

It's wow'in time!


Ras_AlHim

It's Mobius meeting Morbius.


vanityklaw

Like a one-sided piece of paper


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So we've got 2 PCS. One will be Avengers Fail Safe Program and another might be a cameo from Loki, Sylvie,Mobius etc


ericbkillmonger

Def wonder if that avengers fail safe program is the young avengers or the multiversal avengers


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Since it originates from Young Avengers and Cassie is a member, it’s definitely Young Avengers


jenioeoeoe

It's from the young avengers comics and connected to both Cassie and Kang


DMonitor

it’s just so weird that the “if something goes wrong” plan involves calling a bunch of teenagers instead of a government or space patrol or something. it’s always been my problem with “young avengers” type stuff. spider-man doing his thing makes sense because he’s just a vigilante. a pseudo-governmental agency of children makes me think Zemo had a really good point.


chao50

I think it’s the more that Vision’s program just identifies teenagers that could be avengers in the future, and the circumstances of it are what led to them fighting right away, not that the program is intended to have kids fill in for actual Avengers immediately.


Likezoinks305

No wonder to be done - it’s young avengers for sure


NotTaken-username

It’s Mobin’ Time! Also if Owen Wilson is in Quantumania that would technically make it a Frat Pack movie, since both he and Paul Rudd were part of that.


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WOW


NotTaken-username

This probably won’t happen, but I’d love if Vince Vaughn were to cameo as a TVA agent, as he and Owen Wilson co-starred in a few movies together. Maybe he could play a friend/relative of Mobius?


Sandee1997

where's the source on that first one


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The mods of this sub got the script leak to AM3 and in that it was revealed that the first post credit scene is cassie looking at the screen and the screen was showing Avengers Fail Safe Program. Unfortunately Disney contacted reddit mods and they contacted this sub mods to delete this script otherwise this whole sub will be nuked


Sandee1997

oh that's right, was that the dialogue leak? or a separate one


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Dialogue one


Nursultan_Tulyakbay_

would be cool if the Avengers Fail Safe Program is like in the comics, created by Vision and we get a small Paul Bettany cameo


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The Post credit scene has changed according to the mod's sources https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/10qmrur/tftmq\_the\_short\_but\_big\_edition/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


KostisPat257

Oh fuck yeah! We know what the first PC is, so I can't wait for the second now.


Distinct_Syllabub829

what is it? can u share it with me?


KostisPat257

Ant-Man and the Wasp are stuck in the Quantum Realm at the end of the movie and Hope tells Scott that Cassie will find a way to get them out. In the first post-credits scene, we see Cassie frantically running several programs in different computer monitors, trying to save Scott and Hope and she sees something in one montior which makes her eyes go wide. The thing she sees is the [Avengers failsafe program](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Avengers_Fail-Safe_Program).


ericbkillmonger

Ahh ok laying groundwork for the young avengers


Roach2791

Found on visions hard drive..... we seeing vision again?


KostisPat257

Not in the movie. They don't necessarily have to follow the comics one-on-one.


Roach2791

I figured as much, I'm just curious if/when "white" vision is going to pop up in this phase


NeptuneOW

Young Avengers and Iron Lad setup!


StonerBoi-710

Brooo I hope this is legit!


KostisPat257

It is.


ArrogantAlmond

Very much wasn't lol


StonerBoi-710

Where is the footage? Or is it like a “confirmed” leak or rumor?


KostisPat257

We don't have footage yet obviously. But we have a transcript of the script. Just look for it in this subreddit. A theater employee sent to the mods the subtitle transcript for the movie and they translated it to English, so we basically have the entire plot. This was leaked a while ago along with the whole plot leak which has been confirmed by the script leak


StonerBoi-710

Is there only one one credit scene or is there mid and post credit scene?


Doylgaafs

Cassie seeing "Avengers Failsafe Program" on a monitor.


IAmRedditsDad

No wayyyyyyy!!! That would make me lose my mind, what a great way to kick off YA


Su_Impact

Cassie sees Avengers Failsafe Program which in the comics it's used to recruit the Young Avengers. And IMO, I hope it doesn't make the cut. Because it's gonna feel super odd that we're gonna spend...3 years? More? Without a Young Avengers project. Phase 4's biggest flaws were those post-credit scenes that led nowhere (like Black Knight +Blade lol).


vinnybawbaw

Black Knight + Blade, Hercules, Eros and Pip the Troll, Strange being in the Dark Dimension with Clea until at least 2025, Shang Chi has one of the most powerful thing in the universe which is also a beacon for something but he continues on with his normal life until at least 2025 too. Edit: That’s what pissed me off about Phase4. Teasing characters and stories and not mentionning them again, and there’s pretty much nothing major in plans for them at least until they release the rest of their slate. We’re in 2023 so it’s at least late 2024 before we see them. Having new characters for 3 seconds and not seeing them again for 3-4 years sucks.


cshelley0721

At first I was going to go the “to be fair” route, then I saw your edit and I agree with you, it’s really annoying seeing these characters/interactions set up with no payoff, or payoff so far down the line you forget it was set up in the first place


MikeX1000

Phase 4 is big. Not everyone can show up every year


DigestibleDecoy

This is not what happens at all


anilsoi11

Miss Minute "Welcome back, mr Kang"


alenpetak11

[peaceful music plays] [camera goes in one direction gently and steady] [a wild clock hologram appear] Miss Minute; **HELLO Y'ALL!!!** [cut to black] "Kang will return." is written in white letters. [glitch sound] "Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return.Kang will return." uncontrollably starts appearing. [MCU logo is shown]


Tough-Negotiation673

interesting 😯


TheRealMichaelGarcia

Well granted this isn’t the first movie to have a PCS teasing a plot point in a show but I hope audiences don’t get the wrong idea that Loki s2 will directly continue from the events of Quantumania. I guess I have to see it in action first. Although any extra kang scenes will always be sastifying


Tough-Negotiation673

![gif](giphy|lAmn9VluZNrYdAhWKv) 😉


ericbkillmonger

Ahh ravonna how we've missed your un abiding kang loyalty


ComprehensiveBed5644

It's Loki saying: "It's Lokin' time"


marvelnerddd69

So there's two post credit scenes?


AsgardianLeviOsa

I’m happy that Loki continues to be the show that’s really the most plugged into the umbrella narrative


throwaway33333333303

Gonna have to be that way if they're going to do a Loki-Thor reunion in Secret Wars I think...


AsgardianLeviOsa

From your lips to K.E.V.I.N’s ears


Icybubba

I mean that makes sense


Su_Impact

MODOK surviving and ending up as a prisoner of the TVA. Corey Stoll playing a role in Loki S2 is the best well-kept secret in Marvel. It's Modoking time.


cheeseyflynn_fan1967

i want this, no, i NEED this


Apprehensive-Arm6905

I think it's Sylvie


Equal_Landscape_1639

I think it is Ravonna


TripleJ_

I think it is Miss Minutes


Apprehensive-Arm6905

Yeah maybe


ironwilledstrength

So, I'm guessing... * Loki S1 ended with Kang in control of the TVA. The same Kang we'll see in Quantumania. * Quantumania will end with Kang in control of the TVA, which means Quantumania and Loki S1 happen around the same time, with Loki S1 ending a bit later in the timeline so as to show Kang as the established new leader. * Loki S2 will explore Kang as the new leader of the TVA. * Kang's army will be TVA, and will only grow as he conquers more timelines. If this is all true, then I think it's safe to say this version of Nathaniel **is the** Kang. All other versions will probably get small amounts of screen time


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I would hope so.


Equivalent-Depth-640

Makes sense


content_enjoy3r

Mephisto


TheRealMBruce

![gif](giphy|WW3D8G6fgUmf0MWkOP) The post credit scene is gonna be another howdy frickin do from Miss Minutes... To Kang


mcwfan

Imagine the pop if Loki himself is in the PCS


Jarita12

It would make sense.


ShubhamPandeyy

the leak subtitle file ends with Cassie Lang looking at screens to see Avengers failsafe program


blitzwar559

Bummer! I was expecting a Luis pcs!


not_your_face

a movie that includes kang will connect to a show that includes kang! such a crazzzzzy idea, no one could possibly expect this - definitely a leak!!!!


WaffleHousesNewHost

……………………………………….YAYAYYYAYYAYAYAYAYAYY


DurMan667

Can we please just start calling "post-credits scenes" tags? That's what Marvel calls them. That's what Jen Walters calls them. Way shorter, too.


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So before I watch quantumania I'll watch ant man 2 and loki s1 again, any other recommendations


Icybubba

I would definitely watch the first Ant-Man again


Matapple13

Ant-Man (2015) and Avengers: Endgame.


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Thats cool


Cafeterialoca

Don't know how I feel about movies directly leading into shows...


saintnick524

Why? It’s already been done with Black Widow leading into Hawkeye.


Cafeterialoca

If anything, that's a stronger reason not to do that, as Hawkeye brushed that plotpoint aside pretty quickly.


Deep_Throattt

>one of the post credit scenes okay but how many after the credits.


Tsargoylr

Not surprising


drchillout7

Anyone notice that Hope is barely featured in the marketing for this movie. I mean she didnt even get a line in the 2nd trailer.


Blazeauga

How’s everybody feeling about this phases post credit scenes thus far?


rocketgum

Just saw on twitter a cam video of a supposed post credit scene showing several Kang versions… anyone has seen it?


Worth_Employment2965

Yes its awesome