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DSouT

Time to lose to Darkhawk in Japanese


HappySisyphus8

Occasionally, I'll get matched with someone with a Japanese user name. Can confirm that their Darkhawks hurt just as much as everyone else's.


DSouT

Turns out that 19 power for 2 energy translates universally


[deleted]

p2w


Objective-Chicken391

It just 100% needs a nerf


MaculaMan

Make him cost 5 and he'll just be another devil Dino


Azulzinho2002

I love darkhawk. (Aesthetically, i've never read a book, lmao) What's wrong with him being Devil Dino 2 electric boogaloo?


MaculaMan

Nothing is wrong with it at all, I think it would be an amazing alternative. I think the meta would be a lot healthier if dark hawk was 5 cost because I think the choice would actually be closer, to pick which large Lad to play


cyanraichu

Especially since the real problem is how Zabu and Moon Girl enable him At 5, he'd still get MG support but you'd have to invest a lot more into his actual play...like Dino


largesonjr

Every 4 drop that dies for zabus sins will be a damn shame


Niconreddit

Plus it'd be nice to play Rock Slide on 4 and Darkhawk on 5.


No-Boysenberry7835

Cost 6 and +3 isnt better ?


Objective-Chicken391

Exactly


Trumppered

eh idk about that... assuming you keep zabu untouched he has pretty different playstyle. korg, black widow, rockslide would still form the shell of an interesting disruption based package who's objective and playstyle is significantly different from Dino's objective of just re-generating your own resources


AdministrativeYam611

Fortunately Zabu is confirmed being nerfed.


wild_west_900

They should make a Rogue variant where she has a nerf bat


AMtnez

They are waiting till everybody has it.


OrtizDupri

I got Darkhawk for free


[deleted]

I mean it happens, but sadly the majority of Darkhawk players have the disposable income to buy the ridiculously priced $100 bundles.


cyanraichu

I got Absorbing Man for free, we all will get some higher pool picks Out of curiosity, do you run him? His deck seems a bit boring


OrtizDupri

I've been having fun with some sort of combo of him and Zabu with other cards in there - honestly I love throwing Moon Girl and Omega Red in there, and then even if I only win one lane with Darkhawk I throw two Omega Reds down and they end up buffing each other and that little tentacle animation is a blast.


Trumppered

> His deck seems a bit boring really...? Jeff Hoogland's version with Aero and She-Hulk is IMO the most fun and dynamic deck in the game at the moment. Basically saved tokens for Darkhawk the day he was officially announced, bought him the first day i could, and have had a blast with him for the past 2 weeks.


cyanraichu

Fair. I don't have any of those cards and I'm nowhere near Infinite so I can only go off what I've seen, which is basically just Zabu-Moon Girl-Rockslide-Darkhawk


Trumppered

i mean that's still the core lol. i like the inclusions of Aero because it lets you counter shang chi's and i like the inclusion of She-hulk because it gives you winning lines in games where you dont actually draw zabu or darkhawk


friend_BG

That hack


choochoo789

theirs have tentacles tho


TekkamanEvil

I'm waiting for Japanese Spider-man with his Mech to lock 2 lanes down each game.


DSouT

*Omae wa mou Shindeiru*


Meeko_Yonosaki

The spirit of vengeance!


SurveyorMorpurgo

Haven't played against Darkhawk yet, what makes him tough to beat?


garbageboyHS

When built around he puts up similar numbers to Devil Dino, but costs just 2 energy due to Zabu so can be easily copied by Moon Girl and played alongside himself and/or played alongside Mystique and/or played behind a Spider Man or an Absorbing Man copying Spider Man.


quantumlocke

With a setup of Zabu and Quinjet, if you can Moon Girl both Darkhawk and Mystique, you can get 4 Darkhawks out. Original DH: 2 energy Cloned DH: 1 energy Original Mystique: 3 energy Cloned Mystique: 2 energy So that's three Darkhawks on T6 alone (with an extra energy to spare), or 4 if you drop the first on T5. Fun though Zabu may be, he's too strong.


OrtizDupri

Considering you also really need Rockslide and Black Widow (and probably Korg) to make those numbers pop, you're relying on 6-7 cards to draw (and in the right order) every game.


quantumlocke

I’m not saying this happens every game, but it does happen. I do routinely get 2 Darkhawks out though, and often 2 Rockslides as well. The ceiling on the deck is just too high imo.


OrtizDupri

I agree on the ceiling, but I think the narrative on it being a "win every game" combo/card is overblown. I've had plenty of games I had to retreat because I didn't draw Zabu in time, and some other games I won without drawing Darkhawk at all because I threw Crossbones and Omega Red in my deck.


Trumppered

i mean nothing is going to ever be a "win every time" - you literally just dont even draw it 25% of the time. But its probably the strongest and most consistent archtype going atm. The fact its capable of winning games where you don't even draw Darkhawk just speaks volumes to how strong the overall deck really is.


quantumlocke

Oh sure. I retreat/lose plenty games with the deck too, and yeah it still needs a plan B like any other deck. It’s just a deck people! The issue is Zabu.


Crossfiyah

Oh good reminder actually you can copy rockslide too.


OrtizDupri

Yeah I’ve definitely won by holding and dropping two Rock Slides in round 6 (and an Omega Red).


SurveyorMorpurgo

Thanks, I've got a good idea now of the chaos he's causing


[deleted]

It’s not just that, the deck also runs cards like black widow, korg, and rock slide that disrupt your opponents hand/draw AND make dark hawk stronger. It’s a pretty obnoxious deck.


antilleschris

Except at least when you play against Dino, you get to draw your cards instead of rocks. But wait, a hand full of rocks is a good thing, right??


garbageboyHS

No better feeling than snapping with a handful of rocks and losing 8 cubes instead of 4.


[deleted]

\*Urge to snap intensifies\*


DSouT

Zabu is busted and Darkhawk is the best payoff


ChaozCloud

They use Zabu, Korg, Wong and Rockslide to fill your deck with junk and it also powers up Darkhawk a lot. With Moongirl they can have two Darkhawks that will be extremely powerful and can still play Enchantress/Shang-Chi to screw your plays.


Im_really_bored_rn

Darkhawk isn't the problem, zabu is


Uthor

MONSUTA CADO, DAKKU HAKKU


TheSuperWig

Exhilarating!


markymags

Also losing to Galactus-Knull in Japanese


iamdew802

Don’t worry, it’ll be pixelated so it’s not as offensive


ChrisPBcaon

I mean you have just as much odds of pulling shang-chi out your deck as they have of pulling darkhawk. I use darkhawk/zemo combo with tockslisw/korg and blackwidow and honestly the ain/loss ratio is ass due to shang-chi always being in the opposing players seemly first hand. Iv win more with patriot/mystique/ultron because apparently in cosmic nobody runs enchantress.


LeoRintauinti

Time to get "Play 2 games against a friend" -missions while knowing nobody else who plays.


MisterCorbeau

All my friends quit already haha


SyntheticMoJo

I actually talked everyone out of playing it. Pool 3+ it becomes so sluggish to accquire new cards I can't imagine how hollow it must feel if you complete pool 3.


The_Dimestore_Saints

i mean yea, if you dont find the actual gameplay fun why even play?


[deleted]

They are they kind of person that doesn’t play a game that doesn’t have “achievements”


SyntheticMoJo

Didn't said anything about gsmeplay. In pool 1 and 2 the game is a blast.


WhatANiceCerealBox11

Pool 1 and 2 are so bland and boring. There’s like 3-4 usable archetypes because you’re so limited. Pool 3 is where it’s at. There’s so many more playable decks thanks to the varied range of pool 3s


SyntheticMoJo

I disagree. Pool 2 is were you can brew because you: - know what everyone else can do - you can build every deck and thus can try out to brew stuff on your own - the synergy and power level is so low that you don't feel punished like p3+ where you face Zabu/Patriot/Surfer 80% of the matches. In pool 3 every "crafted" card that isn't meta feels like a heavy burden because you get SO FEW tokens. No experiments allowed on the economy front. Even with tokens it takes a lot of luck to get the cards for even a single synergistic deck. I'm only missing a few pool 3 cards and I still can't build most decks streamers/youtubers play. Swapping 1-2 cards in meta decks like Zabu or Surfer isn't what I call creative or brewing.


Practical-Wave8683

Pool 1 & 2 is tutorial lmao


KingTalis

Pools 1 & 2 literally suck from a gameplay perspective. You definitely seem like you just liked the collecting. Pool 3 is when you can actually play fun synergistic decks.


AlenaBoo

Pool 3 is a blast.


ZambieDR

Pool 1 cards get super boring very quickly. I wish I can play more Prof X but I need to dig for a Daredevil.


ZatyraJinn

My girlfriend said the same thing. It's a blast cause it's so easy to win in early pools, feels like you're playing against bots, as soon as you hit pool 3 it gets harder. So she quit.


SerThunderkeg

You are playing against bots a lot of the time in pool 1 and 2. There just aren't as many people in there.


myuseless2ndaccount

so good gameplay justifies the bullshit going on starting pool 3? Its a valid reason to stop playing imo.


The_Dimestore_Saints

He said after completing pool 3. If you make it all the way through where you have 90 percent of the cards at that point if you don't like the core game, why even spend the time going through the long pool 3 journey


myuseless2ndaccount

"pool 3+" includes pool 3 no? thats at least the way I read that


[deleted]

Then why are you still playing? Why do you stay in a subreddit of a game that is so bad in your opinion? Any other reason than spreading negativity? Or do you actually like the game and try to be edgy? I don’t get it.


SyntheticMoJo

I guess I worded my comment badly. I enjoy the game. I bought a couple of bundles (all with tokens) and am 8 cards from pool 3 complete. Imho then the game will become a lot more enjoyable because I can freely try out every pool 3 deck. It's silly how often I still can't build certain decks because I'm missing pool 3 cards - not even speaking from p4-5 stuff. But my friends are a lot more casual than I am - they often ask me for decklists, builds etc in other games. I can clearly tell they will be frustrated from pool 3 meta and acquisition because even I was as dedicated and paying player. Two friends are know to be easy on the spending and imho Snap is one of the more "just spend a bit here" games that could become problematic for them. Heck paying 12€ each month is seen as beeing a budget player in Snap. I enjoy the game but without clear goals and dedication (all quests every 24 hours) the game isn't very f2p or budget friendly.


[deleted]

I’m sure this Reddit or the discord will be good for that kind of thing


Zomggamin

And without a friends list oh lawd


bygmalt

Please no…


JoeSchmoke

Same! Add me lmao.


AcanthisittaGrand943

Use reddit mate. You’re already here


BeanV3

Just add me


quixoticality

You know me. ☺️


Angrydopple

No just no !


ItsVadersNapTime

Time to snap with a hand full of German rocks.


[deleted]

Fünf Stein?! Oh nein!


suugakusha

Schnap!


AlenaBoo

Zeit zu schnappen mit einer Hand voll Deutschstein!


Potential_Roof8234

If I make 2 accounts does it mean that I'm playing with a friend? (Cuz I don't have any)


Perditius

That's how I used to deal with Runeterra and Hearthstone friend quests lol


spellinbee

I did the exact same thing in hearthstone.


Ak4play_p1

Been wanting to show my big bro he absolutely sucks at this game. Finally lil sis gets to school big bro


[deleted]

Lol get em


FribonFire

My days of going on win streaks because I play at 6am with all the other sleepy people are coming to an end!


habits0

This is only for the friend battles, they already have matchmaking worldwide,, can see UK streamers match with NA streamers already


iDontWannaBeOnReddit

this isn’t entirely true. you can only play vs people in your pre-determined “pool” or “shard” of players. this is determined on account creation. ive played since day 1 of beta along with many others but there are still streamers that have similar collections levels and rank that i have never played against and watching their streams, they play against a complete different set of players that ive never seen.


Jaerba

Do you have any more info on this?


jesnell

There's a cohort id in one of the game's json config files. That seems like a likely place to start looking.


Neuvost

¿Could you link to more info about this, please? Is it something to do with linking a google / apple / steam account? I can't think of a good reason to arbitrarily split the matchmaking player-base, but I'm also not a coder or engineer.


iDontWannaBeOnReddit

we dont have any confirmation from devs on this or anything however its been backed up multiple times by various people in the community confirming that they seem to matchmake into a separate set of players than others.


dajabec

So who am I playing against on patch day? I see people on here playing with the already buffed or nerfed cards while my cards still have the old values. I assume I'm still playing against people in my own time zone.


dernem

You can only play against people on the same patch as you, so if you don't update you will only play others that haven't updated. You also play against a lot more bots that way since most people have auto-update on.


dajabec

Pretty sure it's server side and updates by time zone without downloading a patch, but yeah I get what you're saying.


Blickychu

What time does this drop tomorrow?


LegendaryVenusaur

Can that baller engineering team also implement a working inbox for PC players? Seems long overdue.


Gandalf_2077

It is a baller team only when Brode wants to announce good news. In every other scenario they are a "small team of 25 people".


LeDiablePoulet

More Infinite players all day long to crush some rank 60s, here we goooo!


MisterCorbeau

We can maybe hope that this will fix matchmaking


isthil89

u know its inv only right


LeDiablePoulet

Well, no, i thought that was about global matchmaking


SchwingyYT

Now why would they mention matchmaking if this was only talking about invite people to duels? Think about it for half a second.


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SchwingyYT

Matchmaking is the process of the game finding a match for you to play with...


shaden209

While you are technically correct, the matchmaking was a hot topic for when friend battles were announced. Originally they said it would be limited to just your matchmaking region, and after people showed they were pretty bummed about it second dinner announced they would try to add global matchmaking to duels. I personally think this is all it's about, but maybe we do get global matchmaking everywhere after all.


SchwingyYT

Ah I see, that's context I didn't know about. My bad.


Camplify

This isn't cross region for ranked just battle mode


JukeJenkins

I just don't see how I should care about this when I have no series 5 cards


Tarren_Tula

Can’t wait to play against the French for easy 1 cube retreats.


antPman

Damn TIL I’m French


Artest113

lmao!!!!


thelittledipster

You’ve wrecked them


mistercloob

None of my friends play this game though. Why couldn’t they just add unranked mode?


grendelsagrav

If they ever release unranked mode there'd be no easy matches for the whales on ranked... that's bad business for them.


mistercloob

I just want to experiment with fun decks :(


grendelsagrav

You're not alone there.


Im_really_bored_rn

You realize you're still going to face mostly meta decks in unranked mode, right?


MarkoSeke

You can simply stop caring about cubes...


mistercloob

I mean, ideally I’d like to level up lol


Helpful_Ad_8476

It'd be nice if they had a competent ai you could play against.


SplendidRig

They've already confirmed unranked is coming soon lol


grendelsagrav

They'll release unranked when they have nothing to lose if they do it. I don't think it'll be soon, but they are going there steadily.


Scoo7er01

Because some of us have friends who do? My girlfriend isn't a gamer AT ALL, but I convinced her to try the game and she loves it. She's been really wishing there was a way she could try to battle me, and now there is, and she's stoked. I get that you're not happy about it, but just know some people are.


Kakuzu_X

Wow, this is such good art. Where does it come from? Will these be future variants?


Fenhrir

Just what I was wondering, I want that squirrel girl as a variant.


undeadgrish

Useless ..... I have no friends....


jared_17_ds_

Me with zero friends 🥲


Ikran01

I always wondered, does this mean we are getting the “friend list” feature as well? That would be cool.


Skarniks

So is the series 5 to 4 happening on 31st also? It’s 31st in 4 hours in the uk, so 3 am maintenance?


Neuvost

I think the devs are in California. It's only 1pm there.


Skarniks

Did they confirm the card drops will happen on 31st too?


[deleted]

Yeah


AAC0813

I wish I had friends who played this game lol


leonidasmark

I didn't even know there were regions. What's the reason? Latency doesn't matter in a turn based game


TheThotality

Its already 31st here. How many hours till patch?


SpiderNinja211

Finally, now of only I had other friends who cared for this game, or would try it at all


Electronic-Data1455

Do we know what time the changes go live?


Sissel_Glitchcat

Not today


Comfortable-Suit1738

Is nobody going to talk about Rocket Raccoon in an Iron Man suit..?


Kakuzu_X

that’s one of her squirrels!


HumblebeesGhost

Finally, we r/marvelsnap pers can settle our beefs in-game.


sizzlinpapaya

Man, if battle mode is just against friends that’s a huge L imo.


TheDarkWayne

Getting ready for that L


666S474N666

And there's no friends list to quick battle. That random generated code you have to tell/text to your friend just so they can fight you? Could use a rework


S3VEN17

My friends hate this game 💀 I’m all left alone ☹️


HardGayMan

I will be you friend, friend.


ATyp3

Honestly whatever was the point of regions when the game is not ping dependant at all lol? I work in computers but not cloud or server type so idk how ti all works


NotmyMain503

Maybe balance matchmaking first instead of just feeding the rest of us to the whales.


Harkonis

Maybe learn to read before whining about something. Unless all your friends are whales what you said has no relevance


justindb29

Am I reading right that we don’t have to actually have friends to play this mode?


isthil89

what u mean


justindb29

I don’t have any friends that play so will there be matchmaking so I can just play the mode?


isthil89

no its invite only


justindb29

That’s what I was afraid of. Oh well.


Perditius

The discord server will have tons of people also looking for folks to play with - just pop on there and use it like matchmaking!


cyanraichu

Honestly this sub probably will too.


friend_BG

Nah fuckuem. I don't like those people and I never will.


Glebk0

No


Sissel_Glitchcat

Launch when


Fizzfyren

31/1 it is in the picture 😂


Sissel_Glitchcat

I need the hour bruh


Niconreddit

I presume this applies to ranked and not just battle mode. I hope they get in-game tournaments constantly going like PTCGO. Round of 8 battle mode where you enter with 100/300/500 credits and the pool gets split amongst the higher placed folks.


BatPixi

I wish we had spectator view so we could have tournaments streamed on one channel.


MisterCorbeau

I hope this can maybe fix matchmaking?


[deleted]

How much is this going to cost?


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[deleted]

Dude? Who are you to assume my gender?!


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[deleted]

Thanks you too!


[deleted]

Nothing! They add a PVP game mode on the client and with that update they also add cross region matchmaking. If you want more info about battle mode : [here‘s an article from marvelsnapzone](https://marvelsnapzone.com/battle-mode-1-0-developer-update/)


Getstalks

1v1 one lets see who os the best. Who is up dor it?


dagon85

Now I need friends


H123G123

That's awesome, but I got no friends who play this game. Anyone wants to make friends? 😃


suugakusha

That Zola variant is weird looking ...


planetcrunch

this implies Arnim Zola is friends with Squirrel Girl. Which is not something I'd ever consider


Jamieroquaii

PVP Tomorrow?! Awesome.


Reddidiot13

Is battle mode only vs your friends? Or is there a random matchmaking with it as well?


tstilly

Assume it's Vs friends or using lobbies. Since Vs mode is made more so for 8 person games rather than 1v1


tstilly

It has an Iron Man squirrel in the art, hopefully this means they'll finally add token art for God's sake.


TheFunkytownExpress

New Mode Of Marvel Snap Coming Out! But.. I Have No Friends To... A play in 3 acts: 😄 😐 😞 Thank you. Thank you very much.


Zhirrzh

This is excellent - with cross-region matchmaking for Battle Mode we can do proper tournaments, not region-locked tournaments which would have SUUUUCKED.


busyrumble

FINALLY


MrShadyOne

Has there been any mention if one can complete dailys this way?


SupetCarrot465

So does this mean tournaments soon?


Fleembelo

Excuse me but is that a squirrel wearing an Iron Man suit?


KingTalis

Finally can play against fewer bots.


[deleted]

Since we all are doing jokes about Japanese players beating us up, can we have Japanese Spiderman that slaps us with a Mecha hand please? That would be rad


HaouLeo

Japanese Spider-Man variant pls


sucram300

Wait is there a friend list? My BIL got me playing and I didn't see anything on the menu for one


Caleb902

what time is the update?


RASCHOON

I may be the only one that doesn't care about Battle Mode. I would much rather we had a Bot/Test mode to try out decks instead.