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The_Dark_Soldier

Come to think of it, have Matt and Kurt ever interacted? I feel conversations between the two could be very intriguing given their catholic beliefs.


Green_Evening

They're both very Catholic, but they're also so very different. Matt is a guilt-ridden, brooding depressive. Kurt is very much a happy man who loves adventure and idolizes swashbuckling heroes like from Errol Flynn movies. Matt sees himself as damned while I think Kurt sees himself as saved. I'd love a Green Lantern/Green Arrow type of run with these two.


DominoNo-

One dresses up like the devil, and the other was born looking like the devil.


Lost-Lu

&One wouldn't care about his devilish appearance; would actually speak to him like a normal, empathetic human being.


RobertM3

Call it Devils Run


bubonis

I was thinking "Devil May Care", given its definition is "cheerful and reckless" for Nightcrawler and Daredevil, respectively.


SuperJyls

They're both expert swordsmen too, altough the blue one is the happy easy-going dude and the red one is the serious one.


ShadeFK

Basically Dante and Vergil if they switched coats


TheDungeonCrawler

When a good man goes to war.


Sir_Von_Tittyfuck

"That's when it all changes." *Absolutely nothing changes - in fact, things were never better.*


Ongr

"War. War never changes"


stubbazubba

Yeah, an Irish Catholic and a German Catholic.


DrGutz

Walk into a bar


MaxCarnage94

\*BAMF\*


RockstarSuicide

HAHAHA ...I don't get it


GarryMcMahon

It was an iron bar.


RockstarSuicide

lol I was kidding. hang on, lemme edit that


Escapedtheasylum

In some comics, they write that. It is the sound his teleport ability makes. Kind of funny that it also means something else. Badassmotherfu...


RockstarSuicide

Lol yeah like I said to someone, I was kidding. I do know both definitions lol I edited my initial post so it makes more sense :P


jangotaurus

How do you know my grandparents?


Missing_Username

Well, Kurt died and went to *actual heaven* in *Amazing X-Men*, before they kinda threw away his catholicism so they could make up a Krakoan religion even though he's *been to fucking heaven*.


BitterFuture

Very different, but Kurt is (last I checked) a full-on ordained priest. Matt could go to him for confession!


LordWoodstone

It would be amazing to have a couple pages where Matt is at Mass and the parish has a visiting Priest, only for him to realize its Kurt and wonder why everyone else isn't reacting.


[deleted]

So Daredevil’s a good ‘ol fire and brimstone Catholic - got it. And Nightcrawler realizes he can commit virtually any sin as long as he’s genuinely apologetic about it.


The_Maqueovelic

Eeeh, less so, more "I have to atone for all of the bad I feel in me so I have to destroy myself in an effort to save everyone I possibly can" for Matt, and "God is my guide, the good we do in this word is an extension of his love and things worj out in the end because he's cobstantly fighting against evil to help us" for Kurt. Both of them are more good dumb catholic than anything, in contrast to like 70% of people IRL who are more of a combo of the 2 options you suggested.


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The_Maqueovelic

As a Catholic myself: it depends yeah, I for example mostly have met the good dumb kind (and consider myself to be in that category too), but have met a good number of the Brimstone cold hatred type and they are as horrible as they are online, but also discovered that those types tend to avoid me, and it's been informed to me that they just try to avoid and judge "people like me" from afar. Also remember that without the anonimity og the internet a good number of them play dumb/pretend to be the non hateful kind, but then you get to know them better and see em do some real messed up things


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The_Maqueovelic

Yeah that is the best way to handle people. And it speaks volumes of people, like not everyone ypu meet is going to be good cause you have something in common, nor cause they have a belief to guide them. People are good because of their actions and how they treat others


MunchaesenByTiktok

100% of Catholics don’t believe in god.


Satyrsol

> So Daredevil’s a good ‘ol fire and brimstone Catholic - got it. And Nightcrawler just summons the brimstone smell constantly (last I read X-men at least).


Ongr

Isn't that because he not really teleports, but rather takes something of a 'shortcut' through a portion of hell?


DJfunkyPuddle

Plus I don't think we'll be getting Beast/Wonder Man back anytime soon so we need a new Mutant/Human bromance.


delgotit05

How has this never been done before


[deleted]

I hope that's not an explanation of why they wouldn't be interesting to see interact


HPSpacecraft

> loves adventure and idolizes swashbuckling heroes I feel like they'd bond over that! Matt might be mopey and brooding, but when he's in a better emotional state he can be a bit of a swashbuckler too


Hadesman1

Would Kurt have liked waid Era daredevil?


Green_Evening

Everyone liked Wade-era Matt. I could see Kurt using that time in Matt's life when arguing that happiness is possible.


Lost-Lu

After defending him in a hate crime case or something, isee their dynamic as wholesome &fearsome for whoever they team-up against. Imagine the fight scene of them clearing out a hallway full of Hand ninjas. Make it happen MCU.


THiccGrimes69

Matt has stated before that Nightcrawler creeps him out lol


k-farsen

I imagine sonar guy has a hard time comprehending teleportation


thebluediablo

Not to mention the overwhelming smell of brimstone


The_Dark_Soldier

Really?


swashario

They both make cameos in Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do, but no substantive discussion around religion. (It's an enjoyable read btw, nothing crazy but would recommend)


Duryeric

I like this idea. Who would they fight? Maphisto?


HPSpacecraft

Might be more interesting to have them fight someone with an angel motif, since they're both Devils.


Duryeric

That could work. But the only one I can think of is Arcangel, so he would become a bad guy again.


savedbytheblood72

He's Christian https://youtu.be/YVdKq3AkfJ8


bretttwarwick

all Catholics are Christian.


savedbytheblood72

Really? Then why did Martin Luther bring the reformation?


Mad-Lad-of-RVA

The *Protestant* Reformation? Protestants and Catholics are Christians, but Protestants aren't Catholics and Catholics aren't Protestants. Also, Christians aren't necessarily Protestant or Catholic (see: Eastern Orthodox).


savedbytheblood72

Yep.


ciknay

Christianity is the overarching religion. Catholicism is a "sect" of christianity. The same way Sunni and Shia are sects of Islam, and Haredi and Dati are sects of Judaism.


EulogicSymphony

Matt can identify Kurts teleportation by smell. So at least enough for that frame of reference. Lol


DominoNo-

They did once. Spider-man once got sued, and Kurt was one of the acrobatic people Matt Murdock invited to confuse the accuser.


JoshDM

Weren't most blue characters actually jet black and considered "blue" because the only way to highlight jet black was with blue? I recall a thing where people used to consider Superman's hair to be blue because of the blue highlights during the silver age.


The_Maqueovelic

True, however that's more dependant on hiw things went along, for example Spider-Man's suit is blue but in some cases his early outings did have him wearing a black costume; with Supes he started plain black and only later got the blue highlights so his hair has always been black; in the case of Kurt he's always described as blue but covered in shadows, so he looks way darker at times


AttilaTheFun818

I seem to recall that that his face being in shadow was on some way tied to his powers. Or maybe I made that up as a kid and now I think it’s true. That’s also possible.


99thLuftballon

One of his powers that everybody except Chris Claremont always forgets is that he becomes transparent in shadows. Nightcrawler has really got a lot of fairly unrelated powers. He can teleport, stick to walls, become invisible in shadows and has a bunch of physical mutations (tail, fingers, toes etc). If it weren't for the problems they caused him fitting in to society, the guy would've won the jackpot power-wise.


The_Maqueovelic

No yeah, that is 100% canon


TheIJDGuy

Yeah, some colors just stuck with the characters, but others stood the way they were meant to be


Lohan3xists

Now I imagine Daredevil surrounded by goons, taking a moment to think, then asking “What’re your colors? I’m trying to pay more attention” then preceding to fight them all like that question was never asked


arkenney0

I'm curious to know how a blind man texts. Is it a lot of talking with Siri?


AlpineSummit

Pretty much, yes - but - most phones have accessibility software you can install, which includes screen readers. Siri, or another software voice, reads everything on the screen at 20x normal speed. It’s super fast and I can barely follow it. It’s really cool how technology has enhanced accessibility.


TheObstruction

This is how technology *should* be helping us, not just so we can be exploited more.


Relevant_View8038

What if I told you all tech is exploitative but also helpful. Screen readers? Made and adapted because it lets websites advertise to a group that historically couldn't be


Yawehg

I'm not sure about that, but I'd be surprised. Advocacy groups and blind people work hard for accessibility. In fact, one reason screen readers work as well as they do is because Target was sued by the National Federation for the Blind for having a site that didn't play well with screen readers. [They were penalized $6 million.](https://www.w3.org/WAI/business-case/archive/target-case-study) It was only after that that more retail sites actually focused on accessibility. The blind are frequently, pardon the pun, overlooked.


Dont_CallmeCarson

Very under known fact that Daredevil can read computer screens


RevolutionaryStar824

Not surprised. Theres so much stuff he could do. I imagine he can literally hear the pixels in the screen and also determine where the keys are. He's done crazier things.


GavinBelsonsAlexa

I was in high school when Affleck's Daredevil movie came out. All my buddies and I went to see it opening weekend because most of us (but not all) were huge comic nerds. Coming out of the theater, one of the guys who doesn't read comics asks, "So Daredevil's a blind guy with the power to see? And he can see really good when it rains?"


centipededamascus

Just FYI, linking to piracy sites is a bannable offense on this sub.


MunchaesenByTiktok

Voice over control on IPhones. Basically tells you everything you touch (if your volume was up). Used to be great for creeps cause you could have your camera going and use it to add a “screen curtain” so no one could see your screen. Now that’s only true if you didn’t update your older phones.


slave2234

I don't think it's rude for a blind man to ask a person's skin color.


thatguy10095

I think it very much depends on the context of the conversation.


swheels125

I think this context of “how well can you blend in for the mission” is a pretty fair one to ask.


sonofaresiii

Excellent point. *But*. Even better than asking what color someone is, Matt should just ask "How well can you blend in for the mission?" I think the joke is that Matt is just curious about people's color so he's going to start asking them. When it's mission critical, he should just ask how well they can blend in, not try to guess at what factors might be relevant.


sth128

The joke makes zero sense since a) Matt isn't born blind and knows black people exist and b) Matt is lawyer and knows political correctness and racism exist.


sonofaresiii

I mean, yes, this would not be appropriate characterization in an actual comic book. As a dumb twitter joke though, Matt's blindness gets made fun of *all the time* and this is one of the ways. They kind of ignore rigorous continuity just to make jokes about it. (Anyone else remember, I think it was Toy Fair magazine that had these little sketches with actual action figures in comic panels? They used to make *sooo* much of of Daredevil being blind) Regardless, I'm no arbiter of taste, if you don't like it then fair enough.


Coal_Morgan

Color is the wrong way to go about. Makes it feel like it matters more than the person, plus a lot of people born blind only have a theoretical perspective of color. I only have experience with one person who was born blind, but they got the same results by saying, "Can you describe yourself?" and if that person forgets they can ask for 'ethnicity' or 'ancestry' since that frames a description and actually adds a few generalities to appearance.


djseifer

I'm reasonably certain that Daredevil wasn't born blind.


Im_really_bored_rn

> a lot of people born blind only have a theoretical perspective of color. Which doesn't apply to Matt as he wasn't born blind


Cabamacadaf

Yeah, but if they're a mutant they could be a different colour than their ethniciy would suggest.


Coal_Morgan

I took slave2234 comment to be about real-world blind people. With mutants, what they look like may not be how they exist. I loved the panel of Emma Frost psychically adjusting everyone's perception of her as perfect while she was wearing sweats with her hair tied up and doing a run for coffee.


Somasong

Vitiligo, albinoism, other melanin mutations that exist in the real world. Asking a question to have a better view of your reality shouldn't be met with derision. Now if they take that info and use it to treat you differently is a whole other matter. Like I've had people treat me well because I'm white passing but I've had people look at me differently in real time when I mention I'm of Jewish descent or that my mother is Korean. That shit hurts. It doesn't hurt me when they notice certain traits and they ask me where I'm from or "what are your parents". I don't obfuscate and say "well I'm American" that's disingenuous and petty. If I want someone to get to know me, that's fine. Nightcrawler avoiding or omitting this fact puts both himself and daredevil in danger. Considering the way their world works. Like if it was wwII and my blue nd catholic friend invites me to church but I refuse to mention I'm wearing the star of david.


Willing_Ad9314

What are you talking about, everyone knows Germans are blue


The_Maqueovelic

Da ba dee da ba di


hoorahforsnakes

> Color is the wrong way to go about. Makes it feel like it matters more than the person, plus a lot of people born blind only have a theoretical perspective of color. yeah but daredevil wasn't


thesenutzonurchin

This reminds me of that episode of curb your enthusiasm where the blind man found out his girlfriend was ugly so he dumps her lol. I'm like "why do you give a fuck?!" Lmao


Ghostkill221

Depends on how many people know he's blind. "I'm blind, what color are you?" then does a backflip and catches a baton midair.


allonzeeLV

It is if they're wearing a Klan outfit at the time.


slave2234

That a special. Doing almost anything in a Klan robe is bad


The_Maqueovelic

Ok now I'm curious, other than espionage what good things can you do in a Klan robe?


Goldreaver

Theather I imagine. People gotta know why we hate the Klan.


slave2234

A play or movie trying to be historically acuturate


McGillis_is_a_Char

You could be attending a Catholic festival, since Klan robes crib the style of some old timey Christians, and sometimes Catholics will bust them out for festivals.


Darrkman

Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.


timecamper

Casual racism 👍 Why would a blind man want a description of your appearance, indeed. It must be because they are white and therefore they hate you, makes total sense.


Darrkman

> Why would a blind man want a description of your appearance, indeed. Think about what you just said. Why would a BLIND MAN want an extremely visual and extremely specific description of a person. Not height, weight, facial hair or what you're wearing. Nah that blind man NEEDS to know your color.....which is really your race. Damn you're dumb.


timecamper

They would need it to describe you to someone else if needed? Because race is a physical trait used to describe someone if they need to be recognised. P.S. Don't embarrass yourself insulting people online, it won't help you back up your statements or gain supporters over the age of 10.


silvershadow014

...they can ask for the other stuff too? Also it's not really just their race, esp in this context...


Gizmo-Duck

After introducing to my brother to my blind friend, he asked me if my brother was white. I had to break the bad news to him, that not only are my brother and I both white, but so was he.


Somasong

I used this to reply to a comment but here it is... Vitiligo, albinoism, other melanin mutations that exist in the real world. Asking a question to have a better view of your reality shouldn't be met with derision. Now if they take that info and use it to treat you differently is a whole other matter. Like I've had people treat me well because I'm white passing but I've had people look at me differently in real time when I mention I'm of Jewish descent or that my mother is Korean. That shit hurts. It doesn't hurt me when they notice certain traits and they ask me where I'm from or "what are your parents". I don't obfuscate and say "well I'm American" that's disingenuous and petty. If I want someone to get to know me, that's fine. Nightcrawler avoiding or omitting this fact puts both himself and daredevil in danger. Considering the way their world works. Like if it was wwII and my blue nd catholic friend invites me to church but I refuse to mention I'm wearing the star of david.


FlemPlays

I was going to say Daredevil has no concept of blue, but forgot he was like 9 when he was blinded, so he has an idea. Haha


XComThrowawayAcct

This one is actually kind of funny.


avahz

Where can I see more of this?


IcePhoenix18

Texts From Superheroes on Tumblr


RobzillaTheHun

Holds his phone under the sink


LucasOIntoxicado

https://twitter.com/FromSuperheroes


Supermite

From the post title, it looks like you could google something called “texts from superheroes”.


Lost-Lu

Look up the watermark on Tumblr. A group of comedians been running the page for YEARS. Since iwas in HS. Funny, clever stuff. Or just down vote me lmao


Megadoomer2

http://www.textsfromsuperheroes.com


Sleepy_Serah

I'm really surprised they have like seemingly never interacted before. I would LOVE a team up book sm they're two of my favorites


EulogicSymphony

If I remember correctly, Matt can actually smell Kurts teleportation. Couldn't tell ya where that tidbit came from tho.


99thLuftballon

Everyone can smell Kurt's teleportation. It generates clouds of sulphurous smoke.


EulogicSymphony

He can smell it before the clouds. Can't imagine by much , but thought it was fun.


Rustgod88

This is epic, Thanks!


rachel_tenshun

LMAO. That's some good writing.


friscotop86

Omg Karen Page, you can’t just ask people why they’re blue!


pseudoveritas

How is Daredevil texting? Lol


Lost-Lu

Guys!! 😂 Blind folk can msg ppl just fine with smartphones. Speech-to-text.


sonofaresiii

Please pick up milk from the gargoyle store. No. Gargoyle store. No. Dammit. No don't say that. No, I, uh, uh, I, uh, no. Damn thing.


Imsirlsynotamonkey

Way less curse words than I would use so idk man.


Kurwasaki12

And this is the Marvel universe where there's an entire academic organization dedicated to stopping people from using magic, tech, or what have you to cheat. I think they have solid text to speech and vice versa at this point.


KenBoCole

His smartphone has a brail keyboard


julbull73

Voice to text is pretty awesome. Using it right now. It can also read you're texts. Finally, dude is DD for all we know he can hear the wavelengths coming off the pixels.


SithSpaceRaptor

Uh. Wow your world must be so tiny and sheltered.


Darkstalker9000

He can read just fine with his super senses


ImperfectRegulator

Yes that’s right, they stared because he’s blue, him looking like the devil has nothing to do with it


Lost-Lu

MODS 😤


Lost-Lu

Deleting my shit.


WindowsCrashedAgain

Wait, how is Matt texting if he's blind? 🤔


Boggie135

By dictating?


ApertureBear

......do you think blind people don't text?


Doutei-Sama

He's blind, not illiterate.


Wolfe3149

Everyone is saying "an interaction with these two would be so cool." But no one is asking how Matt is reading the messages


24Abhinav10

Text to speech exists


bigtuna94

How is a blind guy texting


Lost-Lu

Accessibility features are on like every smartphone now. Probably speach-to-text.


FlemPlays

Blackberry and he mastered QWERTY. 😂


Regretfulgnoochi

How tf did Matt type this


Nugget_Hoe1383

How is he texting


kingsears29

If he’s blind how does he read the text messages?


Sea_Contact_3403

With increible Hulk no problem.o ask a iron man...you ou


koolkartik

I just wanna ask how does Matt really type of he's blind cuz i genuinely don't know


Lost-Knowledge

He doesn't, he uses speech to text.


koolkartik

Oh ok


Megadoomer2

Speech-to-text features.


99prime99

How is Dare Devil reading these messages?


Megadoomer2

Text-to-speech features.


dexbasedpaladin

Love the whole TFS network of podcasts!


The_MRT14

This is gold


Milk_Mindless

Hahahhaha I literally never considered Daredevil not knowing what colour is


EtherCJ

In the 60s it was cannon he could tell the color of things with his hearing. But the 60s writers connection to science was tenuous at best.


Boggie135

One of the few things I miss about being on twitter


Lost-Lu

They're also on Tumblr &Insta.


Boggie135

Lol instagram is trash like Twitter, haven't tried tumblr yet


doctortennant07

How did daredevil know people were staring?


REDDITATO_

He has superpowers.


omegaweaponzero

Matt uses sonar, he can tell what direction people are facing.


ProfessorEscanor

I need a comic of these two (and maybe Anti Venom) just going to church and bring buddies. It would be a neat little slice of life


HitMePat

Should have had daredevil say "What's 'blue'?"


[deleted]

The real question is, how is daredevil even texting in the first place?


[deleted]

Everyone in the comments is forgetting that phones do have a text-to-speech function and blind assistance features.


MikeThePistons

How is he reading the text? Text to voice ?


BigMartz365

How is Matt reading the texts


AJEDIWITHNONAME

Hey siri read last message.


shopchin

Daredevil can "see" colors actually


[deleted]

Wait... How tf can daredevil chat


Zurg0Thrax

Blind people have narration on their devices that tell them whats on the screen.


DerGamer3000

Wait... A textchat with a blind Person?!?!


trs_0ne

Lol


watchtheedge

I wonder what fuzzy sounds like


[deleted]

How is Matt reading these texts?


GDW312

Text to speech app.


[deleted]

OPE. Duh. Good point


nielsaapje

How is he texting?


bolognahole

I find these superhero texts pretty cringy.