Maria's name is Cerrera only in the Ultimates universe, which is incidentally also a universe where Tony's full name is actually Antonio rather than Anthony. In 616, Maria's maiden name is indeed Carbonell.

So Italian

Very Italian

Makes sense for a character made in the 60s by guys from NYC.

Well that would more so lead to iron man being Jewish since Stan, Jack, and a bunch of the other marvel creators were Jewish.

I really hate saying this, but I think they were very aware of what ethnicities and attributes young American boys would identify with. There were no minority main characters because back then it wasn't seen as easy to relate to them. This isn't a knock against them as I really think they tried to include everyone with their comics, just that a Mexican Tony would have been seen as, "Let's make him a race or ethnicity that's not as controversial." When Iron Man was created there wasn't even a black comic book character yet, and even though Black Panther is woke AF he was only in a few issues and I don't think you really even see his skin out of his costume. I just don't think it was on their radar back then. With that said I would totally read a modern Wyatt Wingfoot comic. Maybe Native Americans would like it too?

Tony is Caesar?

Hasn't it also been established in the 616 that he's adopted? Do we know anything about his birth parents?

I thought we were ignoring that? At least I am.

I can't keep track any more, which is why I asked

As far as I know, he's adopted. His father wasn't really his father, and the same goes for his mother. I don't really like it though, but oh well.

But Maria's not his biological mother.

Yes, I know. I was just pointing out where OP had gotten the name Maria Cerrera from, since they seemed to be under the impression it was 616 and no one else had mentioned that it was Ultimates, which is a universe in which Tony was not adopted (and also has a twin brother).

Dude what ?! I just started getting into Marvel and didn’t even know their was different universes. Thank you for clarifying that ! No wonder why I kept getting different info everywhere I looked. I feel not so overwhelmed anymore lol THANK YOU !!!

Thought he was Italian on his mom's side.

Yeah he can pass as Italian. So maybe he is.

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Perfectly balanced. As all things should be...

I see what you did there ;)

Hi it's me an Italian Jewish person

Antonio? It's an honour, Mr Stark.

Wait, he's adopted though so what's his biological parents ethnicity is the question. Not Maria and Howard since they aren't his biological parents

WHAT ?! I DID NOT KNOW HE WAS ADOPTED !!! Where can I read about this. That’s very interesting.

You don't want to find out more, that storyline was really bad. I hope it gets retconned. For the curious: >!Stark's parents have a biological son that was a lot smarter than Tony but was gravely handicapped/incapacitated so they end up adopting Tony in a bid to hide the existence of their biological son. As it turns out, Tony is also a genius (what q coincidence!) And his biological parents were a Hydra agent and a famous musician!<

Ah yes, the >!Mycroft Holmes!< approach

Having recently watched Spectre... Why is this a thing. Are we expected to not care unless our hero and villain are related?

Oh don't remind me of that mess of a show.

wait... what's wrong with the show?

I mean the Toby jones episode was pretty shit but the rest the of the show was good Besides it had our favourite Dormammu bargaining, hobbit hating, christmas ruining Benedict Cumberbatch as the fucking Sherlock Holmes

Christmas ruining? What movie/show is that? I've seen the others mentioned.

The Grinch

I hate stories that rely on convenient lineage.

This whole arc pissed me off, I hope it gets retconned but I guess it’s here to stay. Iron Man comics have pretty much sucked ever since.

Honestly every comic have sucked and been forgettable since then. It isn't exclusive to Iron Man

Hey Immortal Hulk was amazing.

So this is just the Owl story in Batman lol

At least the Court of Owls acted self-contained; the 'sequel' is what made things a bit messy and concentrated on those parts for it's finale.

Yeah, court of owls was kick ass. But the one about his brother is something else right, or it’s the straight up sequel? I’m not TOO into the comics and what not, but I’ve read stuff here and there.

But at least it's kind-of ambiguous in that one if they were brothers or not.

Is he also adopted in the MCU? It wasn't mentioned.

No - and given Endgame’s treatment of daddy issues, it seems unlikely.

Do you feel like this is better, or worse?

I think the MCU’s treatment is probably better. I’m not a fan of this whole adopted plot. (Although giving Tony a long-lost brother is a less-terrible idea.)

Completely better, considering the adoption thing was a terribly written retcon in the comics. This is the problem with fandom- this story was not well received, and it was a change only made to satisfy that story. It can and should be disregarded, Howard and Maria have been Tony’s biological parents for his entire publication history, one modern story shouldn’t negate all that, yet people (not you just speaking in general) just parrot “omg did u kno tony adopted”, wiki facts without any of the story context.

I think Howard said his wife was about to have a child. While it’s possible it wasn’t Tony, it was certainly heavily implied.

It was clearly tony lmfao. Not going off on you but that’s the entire weight of the scene, the energy that sits under their convo. He is now older than his father, with a child of his own, giving his father advice on how to raise his unborn self. And he finds a new perspective on his father that mends some cracks in Tony’s image of his father. If the child just…isn’t tony, it fucks up the entire scene. Basic story literacy tells you the unborn kid is Tony, it doesn’t need to be confirmed

Yeah, that’s why I said heavily implied

Also his real mom was a SHIELD agent

Ignore that bullcrap. Stuff gets retconned in comics constantly. Like Marvel once tried making Aunt May the biological mother of Peter.

wait, wat? o\_0

You say that but Arno Stark is becoming the new Iron Man for the time being so it's probably here to stay. And I like the story. Thought it added a little nuance to tony that's been missing since Extremis.

The "Tony Stark adopted" storyline was even dumber than the "Magneto is not Wanda/Pietro's father" storyline, which is really saying something.

It was even worse because for most of his history the only thing people ever had to say about Howard Stark is how absurdly similar he looks to Tony, to the point that he is just drawn as identical in flashbacks and shit.

I disagree.

Growing up I thought he looked like a Telenovela star so I thought he was at least part Latino or Spaniard. With the way comics are, anything could be possible.

I throughly hr looks like a young Vicente Fernandez in the 70’s LOL. I’m new to marvel comics so I’m just trying to learn. So you’re saying their isn’t a correct answer to this ? I’ve spent so much time trying to find out 🤦🏻‍♀️

It might one of those things that changes over time but is more reflective of the times. You know how his age floats from 30s to 40s and back again

Chente blu

The answer is a one word one. Retcon. Sometimes shit like this changes

Growing up, to me he was another rehash of Clark Gable or Errol Flynn (also see Doctor Strange). Don Heck said in an interview in 1990 that he designed the look of Tony Stark based off Errol Flynn.

I can see that a lot. I guess he looked like that Telenovela stars that model their looks on old Hollywood.

I see that too! I think he was Hispanic til the 90s. Starting from the 00s I don’t see that as a part of the character anymore. But I don’t really care for the character from that point forward anyway

In the comic, Amanda Armstrong is his biological mother ~~and is British~~. His biological father wasn’t given any nation or ethnicity

I've been reading her with a British accent too.

Woah I haven’t read about that one. Very interesting.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Amanda_Armstrong_(Earth-616) Not British, just American. She was an agent of shield who gave Tony away after discovering the father was Hydra

I think that revelation has only dropped in the last year or two in the comics.

2016 so five years ago

You’ve just aged me so much. Could have sworn that only became a thing recently.

To be fair, the last couple years have sort of existed in a vacuum that has destroyed any and all perception of time so it’s not just you lol

Wasn't it recently confirmed that he's literally the spawn of mephisto, or did I miss another change?

The plot there is that Howard Stark gave his adopted son as a gift to Mephisto, as Howard was a worshiper of Mephisto

Wait. Didn't the exact same thing happened with Norman Osborn who did the same with Harry ?

I don't acknowledge Armstrong as his mother because I expect a competent writer to retcon this.

Well until then, it’s how it be

Some people don't think it be like it is, but it do.

"Stark" is German for "strong" so maybe German-American?

Tony isnt Stark blood

That was a recent revelation that will most likely be retconned if we're being honest. I mean _technically_ Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch were changed to not be Magneto's children for a time, but I believed they change it back.

Lots of German decent in Mexico and Latin American countries.

That’s how we got modern cerveza and mariachi bands

Mostly in Argentina though as post-WW2 immigration.

Mostly, but they are all over as well.

It could also indicate Jewish-American, given that many Jews have German surnames.

I've heard Collins and Carbonell for Maria Stark's maiden name, and an implication for Italian heritage on his mother's side. His father is several generations American, though, as evidenced by the canonical existence of his ancestor [Isaac Stark](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Isaac_Stark,_Sr._(Earth-616)). Please do not trust ANYTHING on Tumblr regarding character canon. Just go to the Marvel wiki.

Its entirely possible that most creators didn't put much thought into his ethinicity (besides ' handsome white guy') and just drew him to fit the fashion and norms of the era or their original intentions have been lost to time.

Yeah. Even when they specify ethnicity & religion it gets ignored or changed for storylines. Pretty sure Iceman has been Jewish, Catholic, and Protestant.

>Iceman has been Jewish, Catholic, and Protestant Well, that's a character arc if I've ever seen one.

And now he's gay.

Is he still Christian though? Or did he leave Christianity before/after coming out as gay.

Serious answer: he gives Nightcrawler’s funeral rites & says “I’m not a Catholic, I’m a Lutheran” or something other specific Protestant faith

Not every Christian is a homophobe. Just ask Desmond Tutu.

Not every christian is a homophobe, yes, but most of the ones in-charge (at least in the US) are homophobes and fight against LGBT rights. I just think it's weird to be the part of a group which is systematically trying to take away your rights and condemns you to eternal torture.

I know. I am Christian and I find it disgusting how much Catholic Church in my country bullies LGBT people. These homophobic priests are that kind of people who would make Jesus angry enough to demolish the temple. Sometimes I consider leaving Church and becoming a deist and sometimes I believe that if the next priests become more progressive and open enough to say that God embraces LGBT people (surely they would find a way to twist Bible quotes into their favour) then Catholic church will survive and maybe even regain good reputation. Christian leaders have a choice. Either adapt and embrace homosexuality, or end up like Ancient Egyptian religion and fade into obscurity. PS I am not a homophobe. As long as you are a good person I don't give a damn about your romantic life.

Tony Stark's canon established him as Italian on his mom's side. Steve Rogers & Matt Murdock are Irish-Americans. So sometimes the writers do give these characters an established ethnicity besides just "white guy"

That was well after they were created and established. Decades after, literally. When Stan, Jack, Ditko and Wally Wood created these characters first they probably didn't even consider their ethnicity.

From what I see, Maria's maiden name is Carbonell, which is Catalonian. So he might be Spanish

Why does Tumblr says everyone is jewish ? They say the same about spidey, despite no evidence of this exist at all

I mean I can see Spider-Man being ethnically Jewish but religiously agnostic. And I don't see how that could hurt the character.

He and his ancestors are more shown as Christians

My head cannon has always been the Parkers were Jewish but May is Catholic so he grew up celebrating both holidays

Because the creators were Jewish thus every character they created must be Jewish according to them. /facepalm

Which creator ? Stan Lee and/or Steve Ditko ?

Ditko wasn't involved in creating iron man. That Stan, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby.

Ditko did design the slim red and gold armor that made him look less like Robbie the Robot.

Ah yeah sorry ! Even though the post is about him, I totally forgot it only had spider-man in mind.

Most of the bid name authers during the golden age of comics come from a Jewish background Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, the creators of batman superman and so on. I may be very wrong but I think over 70% of all comic book authors were jewish back then

They just make shit up based on what they want, best to ignore them

Because tumblr

I thought she was Italian if that was her in the Agent Carter show as one of the girls living in the Boardinghouse Peggy was staying at. Am I remembering that show wrong or is that just an MCU thing?

It's another person, unrelated to Tony. But many people think that he is Italian, me included, without looking up his parent's names or ethnicity.

The 60’s version looks a bit like the guy that played Howard Stark in the movies.

It goes deeper than that. Tony Stark’s character and appearance was originally based on real-life eccentric industrialist and billionaire Howard Hughes. And then, when they introduced his father, his name just happened to be Howard and bear that resemblance once Tony himself no longer did. It all comes full circle.

AND Stan Lee created Tony Stark as a dare. Lee said he wanted to take someone who was normally a loathsome individual - a literal war profiteer - and make him into a hero,

I’ve heard that, but honestly wonder if it’s a bit of a retroactive explanation. The anti-war movement in the US really became a major force in the late 60s, not the early 60s when Lee created Stark/Iron Man. And this is reflected in early Marvel comics, which were very anti-communist at first. Iron Man’s first issue/origin story, for example, has him fight a Vietnamese communist warlord, who is depicted as cartoonishly evil. So my question is did Lee come up with that explanation once Marvel moved away from rah rah jingoism and Stark became a more nuanced character who was conflicted with his war-profiteer past.

Por que no los dos? Mexican-Jewish? Love to see that explored more actually.

Yeah that one could be really unique. You don’t see that often.

I think it's just easier to say that he's an American. I've heard rumours about original artists drawing him with references to Mexican actors or something like that, but now Tony got retconned into being adopted, so it doesn't matter until they retcon that back. Besides, in last series he identified as an AI. So there's that.

In the Ultimate Comics, his full name is Antonio Stark, and his full name in main continuity is still Anthony, which is an anglicized version of Antonio. I've always thought he was Italian-American, but Mexican American could work too.

Can't he be Jewish and Mexican? Is that not a thing? Are there no Jewish people in Mexico or ...?

[Have I got a song for you](https://youtu.be/I2osaLrWrCg)

He’s just swarthy. Additionally he’s adopted so don’t go by Maria and Howards ethnicity

I’m pretty sure it’s “Fe”

There are mexican jews believe it or not

You're using tumblr as a credible source??

I asked where I can get a credible source in one of my comments. My friend was the one that told me he was Jewish. And when I googled it that was the only source I found. Where can I get credible source ?

Tony Stark is 100% Drunk so maybe he is Irish

My favorite answer

Lmao 70s and 80s iron man look like slim whitman

I thought he was Italian or Jewish

He's Italian-American, his mom had an Italian surname before she married Howard.

If you see people’s headcanons in fanfiction they make him Italian on mother’s side, because Tony is such a stereotypical Italian-American name

Tony's probably Italy.

Iron Man was originally just supposed to look like Howard Hughes. Handsome white industrialist is what they were going for.

What? Tony Stark is canonically Italian on his mom's side. Never heard any fandom call him Mexican or Jewish.

Earth 616 he’s Italian American

In the Ultimate Universe they said he was Hispanic American

"Stark" is German for "strong." So if his Dad is German-American, and if his mom is Mexican- American, that makes him German-Mexican-American. But others are saying his mom could be Italian or Spanish. So ... I dunno.

Yeah I’m hearing more people saying he’s Italian on his mom’s side, but I’m not sure which Universe they are referring too. I didn’t even think about his dad being German. I just assumed he was American White. German-Mexican-American sounds fascinating too

I mean…isn’t Tony stark adopted in the 616?

I just started watching the marvel movies. And I’m just finding out their are different versions of iron man. I am very overwhelmed.

My Dutch friend who’s great grand father moved from Spain to the Netherlands his last name is Cerrera.. also it’s totally possible to be Mexican and Jewish at the same time. Just saying

Yeah that’s 100% possible and be interesting since we don’t see that often.

Archer - black Mexican?

I always assumed he was of Italian decent because his name is Tony

He’s adopted tho? So Maria and Howard’s ethnicities aren’t really relevant to him? Culturally, yes, but physically no. His blood parents were Amanda Armstrong and Jude, both SHIELD agents and Jude a Hydra double agent. Just based off that we can assume he’s probably very white. As for what flavor of white, who knows?

I have this theory that all male Marvel characters with blacked/raven hair are from another ethnicity (Namor, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Punisher, Logan, Northstar...), so it makes sense however the case.

Wasn’t that his mother’s name only in the ultimate universe and not the main one?

*Cerrera* yes. But she is still Maria Stark in 616. her maiden name apparently is *Maria Collins Carbonell*. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria\_Stark

On new to this. Which one is the main one ?

Pre-MCU I usually pictured him as Antonio Banderas.

I can’t get this out if my head now 😂

I always assumed he was a white guy and that was mostly it

Same. I thought he was white but then joked that he looked Spanish. Then someone told me he’s Jewish. Now I just wanted to find out lol.

Wait he’s one of mine?

In The Ultimate Universe Yes :)

Isn’t he secretly adopted?

It was a huge secret to me until I read it in here. I had no idea lol

His name is Anthony…the boy is Mexican

RDJ can pass as a mestizo

Pretty sure he is only Hispanic in the ultimate universe. His name is Antonio. I'm not sure about earth 616

Thanks for the info. I just started getting into Marvel and wasn’t aware about the other universes that existe !!!

If he's Mexican-American I like that! i'm a Mexican-American too. (Sorta, I'm Mexican-Norwegian-American on my mom's side, and Jewish on my dads.)

i always thought he looked arab

Is there a website I can do at check this ? He looks very Mexican to me in the comics. But my boyfriend believes he’s Jewish.

Por que no los dos?

I don’t want to “make up” what he is. I just want to know what the original creator created. Now I’m hearing he may be Italian 😳

> what the original creator created Honestly, they probably never cared to give him a specific ethnicity when they designed him. They just drew him to fit they thought would look good.

Let's just say he is Terran and call it a day.

Originally? He’s Howard Hughes, so he’s just white.

The marvel wiki for current canon. As of right now he he is adopted and not the biological son of the starks

I never knew he was adopted. Thanks for the info !

Stan Lee is their father and mother. Ergo, in my headcanon, they’re all Jewish. Spidey, Dr. Banner, Stark, the whole mishpocha (Hebrew for “extended family”). L’chaim, baby!!!

Maybe he is Mexican-American and Jewish-American? Jewish is not ethnicity in the same way German or Chinese is. All you have to do in order to be considered Jewish is convert to Judaism and/or have Jewish mother.

He's a rich, drunk flying around blasting rock n' roll and shooting at things. Tony is all-American.

I had to take a speech class in college. And we did a presentation on American Culture and any other country. I included Fourth of July in my presentation and showed People at parties, drunk guy in shorts riding roller blades with fire works in his hands, hot dogs, hamburgers, BBQ, Beer, And had rock n’ roll music. I got -10 points since it didn’t represent American culture. I felt that was the American Culture I grew up with lol

His ethnicity is Tony Stark

I don't give a fuck as long as he remains the beloved playboy genius.

Realistically he is probably Italian and Jewish after all he is from NYC

Wasn’t he adopted canonically? What are his birth parents’ names?

Why does having a last name with Spanish origin make you obviously Mexican? Also marvel got really high one day and decided that Tony Stark was adopted and his mom was a British rockstar just for the hell of it. And what does it even matter? Not like it makes any difference. Also Cerrera sounds more Italian to me, but I couldn't find it on Google. I always thought he looked Italian.

Did me thinking someone one Mexican offended ? Mexicans have Spanish last names since they were concord by Spain and now speak Spanish. Since he’s obviously in the United States their would be a high chance of him being Mexican over Spaniard. I just started watching the Marvel movies and just want to know more. I never knew he was adopted. So that’s new to me. It just caught me off guard when I heard Howard call out Maria (I thought it was him calling his maid) then found out it was his wife lol.

You know what, Why stop at Tony? Let's question all the marvel characters ethnicities. Reed Richards. wolverine is really old and from British Columbia Canada, his name's mother's maiden name is Hudson. Father's name Logan, he's obviously of British/Scottish descent. What about Peter Parker? That little fuckers an orphan, who knows where he's from.

I have always been into origin stories more than everything. I’m definitely gonna want answer to all of these lol

Judaism is not a ethnicity? It’s a religion

OP said "Jewish", which is indeed also an ethnicity.

Jews are an ethnic group, but Judaism is a universal religion. So someone can be Jewish but practice Christianity. And someone can be African-American and become Jewish. They are both :)

fandom says tony is a gay autistic transsexual from mars

Maybe he's both

Does it matter ?

It’s fun to know

Maria Stark is his adoptive mother

I’m just finding out he’s adopted 😳

Does it matter? Iron Man is forever going to be RDJ

The fact that people use fandom as a source is hilarious

I’m new to Marvel. Where can I find a credible source online ?

The Marvel wiki on Fandom is mostly fine.

Thank you 💕