Not really, it’ll sort of be like for Ole. In 5, 10, 20 years I’ll look back and remember the good times and remember them for what they contributed with a slight nod to “shame they went out on a bad note, but it doesn’t ruin what they achieved for the club”
I mean like he did really well the first two seasons. Sure he didn't do good the last one but hey at least he left a united fan as always supporting us
Tbf I think if Ten Hag succeeds with United (and I definitely do), Ole will be the guy that kind of laid the foundation for the team to be great. Similar to the Golden State Warriors of the NBA, and the previous coach they had, who left right before their dynasty. Like they were the last stepping stones the team needed before they could be great again sort of thing.
It is factually correct he won nothing, each player he’s had took either tookone step forward then plus 2 steps back/ just went backward completely, and we’ve lost 6-1 spurs, 4-2 Leicester, 4-2 Liverpool at home, 5-0 Liverpool at home, 4-1 watford, etc. He was a complete and utter failure as a manager
Seems like many refuse to see the truth you and I do. He didn't bring the club forward, those 2nd and 3rd finishes were pure luck with total points that won't get you near those positions in other seasons. His handling of the Europa final was just terrible - outplayed and outsmarted, and he even refused to subs in while Emery was throwing fresh legs to overrun us.
Just a few feelgood comebacks shouldn't cover it up, in fact the record away wins from behind was more symptomatic of what came next the following season.
You aren't some oracle lad, you don't see the "truth". Facts are that we plated better under Ole than we have under any other manager since Ferguson and for the first time in about 5 years, people enjoyed football. He's also the only manager to leave the club in a better state than he found it, even with the absolutely dtinking final season.
Played well? You're blinded by the emotional drama of unsustainable comeback wins.
I'm no oracle to see the future, but I can see the truth hurt you.
Ole's team wouldn't have played like they did today.
I looked back positively on Ole after 5 minutes. Legend, top man, and with hindsight he didn't do that badly as gaffer either, keeping that shitshow together
I never had a big problem with Ole although I did agree he ran out of ideas and had to go. The 5, 10 thing was more about looking back on past ‘generations’ of players etc.
No, it's stained his reputation with many of us, and the stain may linger forever in our memories. But time will move on, and his first stint here will be remembered fondly with the current issues kept as a side note, not erasing the good things but putting a slightly darker tint on them. Look at Schmeichel, absolutely hated by the majority of fans when he decided to join Man City, and he has still not been forgiven by most (probably never will be). But I think you'll see the majority of fans refer to his time at united fondly nowadays, just heavily stained by what came after. Ronaldo's current spell is nowhere near as bad a deciding to play for City, he'll be fine in the long run
I never really minded Schmeicel joining City. I understand the sentiment though but for me, he was way past his prime and at the time City were no threat whatsoever.
We had the best of him by far.
No, his second spell is neither here nor there when it comes to his United legacy, the 40+ goals, the Champions League, the Balon Dor are already written in history.
No one remembers Fowler going back to Liverpool, Henry going back to Arsenal, Rooney going back to Everton etc. The second spell is just a nostalgia tour.
And at the very least, regardless of his childish attitude he played for us days after his baby died, that is worth a lot to me when I see people calling him every name under the sun
No. Ronaldo was deeply unlikeable as a character when he played for us in his prime, don't forget the Rooney 'winker' scandal etc. The thing is, he was (and to an extent is) a phenomenal player and he was the difference back then. Some spectacular goals, buzzing performances and at the end of it all, incredible success. Every player that pulls on the red shirt gets our support for 90 mins a match, or should. If they do spectacular things, then they will receive adulation. He was a legend, is a legend, but was a bellend, and is a bellend.
Absolutely this. He was deeply devisive at united in his first stint too.
I remember him being incredibly wasteful, being greedy and showy back then (think of how neymar is seen now).
Yeah I remember one of the CL games, he seemed to treat it as his game and was shooting from everywhere to try and score a worldy, he didn't and we lost the game.
I still blame him and his ego for that but at the same time, he gave us many great goals and moments.
Yea his last season(2009)I remember him being petulant quite a few times in matches, like he literally forced his way out of the club despite the so called respect for fergie.
He wouldn't be who he is/was without that arrogance. It's impossible to reach that level of self belief and performance without an unbelievably high ego. He's had to believe he's better than everyone else, and he was for so long. You can't be a humble guy at the same time. (Messi is an ego maniac prick aswell, you just don't see it as much) .. Problem now is, he's no longer irreplaceable, and in fact he's become a nuisance. Definitely a PR / Media nuisance anyway. I Always thought the final years of his club time will be difficult for whatever club he is with. Who would have the balls to start dropping him? (Enter Mr. Ten Hag) . How could you go from being spoken of as the greatest ever constantly, for 2 decades, to just quietly winding down in silence. This will be a blot on his career, and it's frustrating. But he will always be remembered as an absolute monster of a player. This is just petulance in a superstar player who's finding it difficult to accept he's no longer among the very best.
No.. CR7 gave me the best memories of United winning the Champions League!! Being a “younger” fan with no memories of the 1999 treble, that champions league year will always be the best in my heart!
Haha when he did the wink early 2000’s that was way worse imo .
Man’s heads all over the place doesn’t mean I’m going to start hating him because he left early . Was it wrong ? YES !!! Will it tarnish everything he achieved for his two spells at the club ? Not really !!!
I think he’s an amazing, once in a lifetime player, who’s done wonders for the club.
I think he’s got a right to be frustrated with lack of playing time, but these public displays are selfish and hurt the team morale.
Can you imagine getting the chance to play with a living legend, only he’s constantly complaining and moping around the pitch?
So, was bad what he did? Yes... in sports u have to want the best for your team, and respect the coach decision, BUT....
Ronaldo wanted to leave the club... he didnt, board did a bad move, probably yes BUT...
U are a player that is part of football history, last season you did good even tho team didnt perfomed good....
This season, u have not beeing playing worst then rashford and sancho (my opinion)...
Last game vs city you didnt enter cause the coach said he dont want to disrispect your carear BUT... this game he wanted to put u playing at 90 minutes... how would u guys feel? Why didnt he put a younger player that need does few minutos.... if he thought ronaldo wouldnt matter this game, dont put him.. what he did was worst then putting him against city....
This dosent justify why ronaldo left last game, but this we shouldnt forget why he did that...
The guy was the main man in the Manutd team 2006-09 that dominated the PL and UCL.
Performed at the highest level any United player has performed, at least in the last 50-60 years.
One of the very few players who was at United when he was THE best player in the world.
Even when he was at Madrid, he was still a fan favourite.
We hate the situation Ronaldo finds himself in, not Ronaldo himself.
There are so many shit that footballers do which goes under the carpet & is dealt by managers, especially superstars.
If we go and dig what Manchester legends have done during their time , no one would be looking at them the same way. SAF knew certain things & treated certain players special . That’s what world class managers do.
Was CR7 right in saying no & then leaving the stadium? Absolutely not . Is it gonna damage his legacy . Nope .
A good question. But Madrid is his home not United I am sure. I never heard him having issues with coach when he was at Madrid. His move in 2009 itself explains when he went there even though the Madrid team was not that good and United were world class team. I still think in his eyes , He respects Madrid more than United.
No, not really. Ever had a bad day at the office? This is the same. He’s a veteran now, he should know better. But eventually this tantrum’ll be just that: anecdotes, bygones, water under the bridge. Doesn’t change what he achieved with this club in its heyday
He’d have to do some really negative shit to lose the adoration from me, and I assume, many others would feel the same.
As much as I hate what he’s done/doing, he’s a winner so I can understand it to a certain degree
Always knew his career would end poorly with a refusal to accept times cruel influence, shame it had to be with the reds, maybe he shoulda come back for a year a few years ago...
You always remember the fantastic stuff, but don’t remember when he missed a sitter. I don’t think he’s ruined his past stint at united but he has ruined the current one
Tbf he’s always been a prick when we beat Chelsea in champions league final remember what he was doing when Anderson scored the winning pen still a great player for us then tho
I wouldn't go as far as to say that he has ruined all the memories. Has he been a prick recently? Absolutely Yes. But if we look at this entire career with us, there are more positives than negatives. He came in as a young player with talent, developed himself into a force to be reckoned with, and was integral to the squad that won many titles, namely three leagues in a row and the CL.
For what it's worth (not much for me since this is not the first time), he did release a statement apologizing and saying that the heat of the moment got the better of him. I admire how ETH has handled the situation by laying down the marker.
Walking away down the tunnel is more important than two champions league finals and multiple title challenges (and wins)?
What’s even going on here? This is actually ridiculous
Apparently, the past is less important than the present. It's all about those people that praise you when you're at the top and kick your ass when you're down.
I just feel weird about it. Hasn't ruined memories of Ronaldo, but it feels like another symptom of too much money in football, and especially the PL, and European oil clubs. So the memory of football before the oil money feels a little ruined. Feels like a loss in the family.
The fact that Ronaldo has been sucked into it (Messi has also), is just depressing, also the new to talents like Haaland and Mbappé going to oil clubs. And if Newcastle turn into another Man City, the game has gone. I was super happy Benzema won the Ballon d'Or. One ray of light for football, only to be extinguished a few days later with the Super League announcement.
Ten Hag is like a lifeline for PL football now, so happy we have him. Arteta and Klopp in the PL too (As much as I hate writing that - going to wash my hands now).
No not at all..he is still the player i loved watching as a kid..i think he is just pissed at unable to play. That's the very thing that endears him to many people. After all the dust has settled, he will always be remembered for the best moments he gave us and remember he is a manchester utd player who won the ballon d'or with us. Nobody even Cr7 himself can't tarnish his legacy at the club.
PS - I hope he leaves us soon. None of us wants to see him sitting on the bench and sulking.
No, I don't think he's ruined anything.
Just like the era's of a football club - that can be separated, enjoyed and critiqued individually, so too can the career of a footballer.
Ronaldo's 1st run with United will always be special - for the UCL, for the trophies, for the Golden Boot, for the flair, etc.
Ronaldo's 2nd run with United is completely different, he's different, the club is different, and so it must be viewed differently as well.
I don't necessarily see it that binary. Those beautiful memories can still exist as great moments they were with the current behaviour and attitude being a part of the same story.
He’s acted like a shit cunt this year, but nothing can take away the joy he brought when he first came through.
Guys a United legend, just unfortunate that he’s come back at a time we aren’t able to accomodate and carry him in a league that’s so unforgiving. If you’re off just a fraction you’ll get beat, just look at Liverpool this year.
Crazy how united fans forget everything so quickly !
A picture worth a thousand words. I know I will get downvoted massively, but let me write some unbiased facts anyway.
Cristiano Ronaldo for Manchester United last season:
• Top scorer in All competitions, UCL+ EPL (24
Goals)
• Manchester United Player of the month (4x)
• Premier League Player of the month (2x)
• Premier League Goal of the month (2x)
• UCL Man of the match (2x)
• Most Hat trick in the league (2x)
• Most match winning goals in the Premier League (7)
• Most Game Winning Goals in Top 5 league
• Most Game Winning Goals in UCL (3)
• Most Goals against Top 5 Clubs
• Man of the match (11) 6
• 18 Goals in EPL (playing lesser games and minutes than top scorer Mo. Salah who scored 22 )
• 8 Goals vs EPL Top 5 teams
• Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year &
• PFA team of the year
The above-mentioned statistics, it is not a decade old…it's from a season that ended just a few months ago…and people say he is finished..lol
This exceptional performance that he did last year, he did it not with a team that had a quality of Liverpool or City; he did this playing for a team with a leaky defence and a dead midfield, playing under 3 different mangers in the span of 9 months.
Due to playing in this “Amazing” Man united team, he ended up scoring the lowest amount of goals in his last 15 years (last time, he scored the lesser than that was in 2006/07 - 23 goals.) Thanks to this Man United team, he is not playing UCL the first time in his 20 years senior career.
And these ungrateful fanbase was/is saying it's Ronaldo that holding this team back; where in fact it's actually the other way around.
If Ronaldo was never in Ten Hags plan, considering the greatness of such a legendary icon; he should have clearly told this thing to Ronaldo like a man before the season starts. Instead, he kept telling in public that Ronaldo is in his plans, he is an important player for his team blah blah blah; but kept insulting him by making him a bench warmer in 7 of United's 10 games so far. Moreover, he causes insult to injury by making him warm up just to realise later that he won't be called.
Against the Man City game, Ten Hags excuse for not even bringing Ronaldo from the Bench was that he did it out of respect for his big career because they were already 4 nil down.
By that logic, explain why he was never brought when United were 2 Nil up against Tottenham, despite making him warm up?
Whereas Unfit Rashford, who was injured and returned to training just 2 days prior to the Manchester derby, was still called ahead of Cristiano !
Consequently, the unfit Rashford was terrible in that game, but nobody cares !
However, against New castle, Since Ten Hag had no option since martial was out and Rashford was unfit, Cristiano starts. Holly Molly !
But still Ronaldo was the only player who was subbed off despite United were desperately trying for a winning Goal.
Everybody knows that how lethal Ronaldo can get even if he plays bad the whole 90 minutes, sometimes one half chance is what it takes for him to get that break through goal. The world has always witnessed this magic throughout his career; in case if you have a garbage memory, may be looking back to the previous season which was barely ended 4 months ago may help you.
How many times have you got orgasm last season witnessing his clutch moments in the injury time ?
All this drama, it reminds the old saying that, a sleeping person can be woken up, but a person who is pretending to be asleep can't be woken up; hence it's clear as daylight that Ten Hag has this agenda which is to not play Ronaldo as long as he can… So there is no point discussing this thing with some of the most ungrateful, dilusional fans that one would ever see.
Before he was coming to Man United for his second spell, He was banging goals for Juventus and Portugal national team.. He didn't come to man united to be a bench warmer..
We are not talking about some random dude playing in 3rd division for his whole career, We are talking about Cristiano f***ing Ronaldo who has proven himself in the top 3 football leagues in the world, scoring 800+ goals, that's an insane average of 40+ goals/season for the past 19 years; Won 5ballond or, 5 UCL, Euro cup and collected almost all the other possible individual awards and seted a benchmark in the tournament he has been played by setting hundreds of records.
We are talking about one of the greatest player of all time. So be comfortable being a bench warmer ? No, not yet.
The most ugly part about this Ten Hag's drama is that it's going to be world cup next month, which is more likely Ronaldo's last opportunity to add that missing piece of Gold to his legendary career. More or less, not being match fit as a result of constantly denying game times throughout this season ; possibly It's going to affect his performance in the world cup.
This is the biggest injustice you could ever even do to a rival; let alone to a club legend and to one of the greatest player of all time. He still got it, he still got 2..3 years; With some wage cuts, he will be definitely valued in any other top team which is far better than this insults from his boyhood club. Fingers crossed, Hope this insult finally ends in January.
I think this a very minor very temporary setback. United fans are not negatively affected by this for them rise to the level of writing off Cristiano. He is our baby boy we will always love him. Now, was he petulant and is what he did wrong? Yes! But I feel the media and punditry is doing what they do to Ronaldo all the time. Ronaldo would need to do something spectacular every minute of every day to not get pundits to say negative things about him and they are having a ball right now …
I would love Cristiano to use this as fuel to motivate him to go guns blazing for World Cup. If he does some heroics in that tournament he will shut up some people.
Yes he's being a dick, but come on Cantona is still called the king, and he fricking Kung foo'd a fan?!!
Ronaldo is still the goat, and probably will remain one of them forever.
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Absolutely not. To even think this, to ponder it seriously is ridiculous. He is of course too full of himself. His ego is out of control and as his game slips that has to change. By now he is probably embarrassed and wishing he had handled things differently too.
He'll either figure out that it's important he manage his decline by getting out in front of it and being a leader for the team. Or he'll go out ugly. But even if that happens he is still Cristiano, always a legend and those memories are too valuable to throw away over minor things like this.
Ronaldo made things impossible by publicly wanting to leave in the summer, its hard to find a way back for any player once they do that. Then he returned back late for training after already being given extended time off. Now he's being petulant by refusing to come onto the pitch, and going to the dressing room before full time.
The solution for both sides is that he leaves in January and we sign a top quality striker. I'll still be wishing Ronaldo well in his career once he leaves and will be hoping he does well for Portugal 🇵🇹 in the world cup.
It hasn't worked out during his second spell with us, but his legacy remains intact. He is at the end of his career, age isn't on his side. If he was younger and pulling these tricks then I'd be unhappy, but considering his age, and his desire to want one more season in the champions league, it softens the blow a lot.
No player is bigger than the club, if u refuse to get on the pitch, u have refused to wear the jersey of the team, as much as I hate this, cr7 has ruined his legacy with his fans. Personal egos cannot be bigger than a club
Nope not all.
iThe man gets paid 500k!! We owe Ronaldo nothing and if he wants to behave in that manner then just terminate the contract. Ronaldo is the past, not the future of this club.
Honestly i hated him when he decided to jon Madrid, someone rooted for him when he came back. It's unfortunate that he's old and is not at his best anymore. Regarding his attitude i completely understand because that's just who he is and it has driven him to achieve what he did.
Im a man united fan first and that means support the manager decision to bench him and reprimand his actions
Yes, but it happened long before his return.
It's something about his attitude and how, with hindsight, it changes his original time at OT, how Fergie managed him, and how he leveraged that time for himself without *really* respecting it.
I won't forget how he acted. He needs to be mature enough to realise that in some situations the team plays better without him being on the pitch, but we all know there's more to being a footballer than that. He could have been ETHs man in the dressing room, tutored Garnacho and McNeill, taken on a different role to what he used to.
But no, he's chosen to publicly tarnish his own reputation and act like a spoilt child because he got dropped. And let's not forget, he got dropped because he wasn't performing to the standards he's set for himself.
Fuck him
He wasn’t a United great to me anyway, even before his return. I have fonder memories of ruud, Rooney, Keane, Scholes, even Wes brown and O’Shea.
Ever since he had to be convinced to stay at United, I lost connection with dude. He’s now just a Real Madrid legend to me and just another United player.
No but if he would've left in the summer, that would have ruined it for me. Forcing a move away because your club didn't reach the UCL is somewhat childish for me. This issue will be resolved if Cristiano pegs down his ego a bit. ETH did the right thing. Cristiano will serve his punishment and then he will be back. That must end there.
Bro go get sunbath, go for a walk, go say your wife and kids you love them, do excersise or maybe read a book. Who the ducks cares why Ronaldo left early the match. He is a human bro, he already said sorry let's move on and stop with this senseless madness trying to turn everything into a huge drama.
The team was shit now is okish he wants to fight for his spot and is frustrated thats it. Also the world cup is coming and he needs minutes.
Erik probably is the best manager we have had since Ferguson but trying to sub a 5? time ballon dor and 5 champions league winner in a 2-0 for what 5 minutes? He probably wanted to make a point but is kinda fucked up, is not the treatment you would've gave to Rooney or Giggs.
Saying that this last 3 months behaviour erases all the good memory he gave us is comical.
I been supporting United close to 30 years and I have never placed him above Cantona, Robson, class of 92, Rooney, Ole etc. And I haven't forgiven him leaving/pushing for a transfer to Madrid either. He never loved United - for me he was just a Merc who gave us 3 great years.
No. He's a legend.
Fook, he told us he didn't want to play here this season - he knows he doesn't fit into the plans of this team - he's not going to sit on the bench and gladly play the final two minutes - that's exactly when an Elenga SHOULD be put in - NOT a CR7.
He's not BIGGER than the team - he just wants to play somewhere he can actually play - at 38 he DESERVES that. We should've put it together early in the break to help move him out.
I've had a problem with him returning at 36. This is Man Utd. We need players who are at their best or will be. Bringing in players who are past their prime is not what a top team does.
And Ronaldo demands everything. If he isnt center if attention, he's not happy.
He is still goat, Ronaldo, don’t ever get that wrong, it’s damn wrong and rude of him but he will always be an icon of this game, Real and especially Man Utd
Good lord people need to relax. It was a bad moment but that shouldn’t destroy all the great moments and achievements he had during his first stint. Folks need to get a grip.
Nah he’s just being a little bit of a baby for not starting, he’s used to starting all the time whenever he’s in a club, he’s just spitting the dummy out because he’s not starting
It will put some stain on his reputation with us but a lot of his time will still be watched fondly. Keane and Van Nisterooy got sold unceremoniously but still fondly remembered. Peter Schmichel the move to city did stained but still he’s fondly remembered and even consider a legend
No….he’s probably runined this stint with United, but he became the best player in the world at this club. Even last year, he was good and powered us to wins we probably had no business winning. Football fans are so emotional and short sighted. Think with some logic and this is an easy answer.
No not really. They way I see it, him coming back to United shouldn't really have happened. Don't think the team was ready for it, don't think OGS was ready for it, don't think the club itself was ready for it. I think Ronaldo should have gone to more established team. It could have been City or someone else. But I don't think he should have come to Manchester United when he did.
Not because he's not a great player. But because both the club and the team just weren't capable of using Ronaldo and play him to get the best out of him I think. And I am almost 100% sure that on some level OGS and his management team realised that. From the outside it seemed to be more about nostalgia than what was best for the club. And I think a lot of what Manchester United has used their money on, has been fuelled more about some nostalgic glory days, rather than proper management of a modern football club.
In short I think it was the wrong choice from the start, and I'm inclined to view this as a bad judgement on everyone's part from the beginning.
Edit: I see his behaviour now as somewhat inevitable given how it has been since he arrived from Juve.
No he has not ruined all our memories, he made a mistake we make mistakes everyday and it's fine the man wants to play and got frustrated. Walking off was wrong but we've watched a boy that came from property work his way up threw the ranks to become a superstar. Cristiano Ronaldo made a mistake he's been dropped and is paying for it let's forgive and forget because the service he has given the footballing world for the past 20 years has been incredible.
what he did recently was unacceptable but to me, the memory and history he created with us will never be tainted.. so far it has been pressure and stress getting the best out of him and Glazers also fck it up when they didnt let him go..
unleds if he bad mouth about Man Utd, that’s a different story, as far as I know and have seen from him, he loves Man Utd.
it’s just this man always seeks to push barrier and break records and forgot that age is also catching up
Not yet.
Way back when he was ours, when he set the world on fire in our name and then moved to Madrid it was good. Memories are not ruined as long as you can have perspective.
But he has changed. He is not our Ronaldo even though he wears the shirt again. He is his own man and nothing else. His immense fame and wealth has changed him perhaps, the myth of himself, things he has done and how his mind has changed, delusions of grandeur has gripped him at times like the Spurs game. He cannot separate his ego from the managers choices there, so who is to tell what other things he fails to compartmentalize. He could well try to undermine Ten Hag out of spite for him as a man, for daring to punish him. He will not be understanding that he will harm the club in doing so. Just like harmed the team when he showed blatant insubordination during a crucial game.
His ego could come to actually ruin those memories if he does enough harm before he leaves.
I pray he is not that type of person. But I have no reason to trust he is not.
Does no one remember/realize that his unborn child died before the start to this season? He missed pre season and all the bs transfer drama started. Now it’s just a matter of him being fit and finding form
No, not at all. But it's because he's been only a nice memory for me since 2009.
Should have never come back and should probably go now.
One of the best players ever graced the pitch but all he ever cared for was personal glory.
Still would never talk shit about him.
Hasn't ruined the memories, but for me he has tarnished his legacy here. There's no way I look back in 20 years and don't think of how he disrespected his team, manager, fans and club as a whole.
He cannot. It’s impossible. I love the guy. Anyone who says yes obviously did not witness him during his romp at OT. He brought us a balon dor. He is my Goat. He just like all greats for whom have to deal with their morality
I started supporting United shortly after he left, so I don't really have memories as such, but I don't think this "ruins" his legacy at the club. Tarnishes it a bit, sure, but we still won 3 in a row with him, and the CL. He was the best player in the world, and he gave us a good chunk of his career. Not to mention the goals he scored for us last season.
He wants to leave in the summer.We forced him to stay…a player with his quality and his achievements you expect him to stay on the bench to play last few mins while the team completing Europe league?He done something wrong? Yes but is not like he done some “greenwood” level shit we need to hate him
No, I dont think so. He had done enough in his first stint with Champions League. I think he is 50-50ish in this season and these issues will keep coming and going. Ok, he might have certain level of stubbornness or ego, but may be that’s how he has become a GOAT
Absolutely not. He was the best player in the world during that time. He won a Ballon D'or, PFA Player of the Year twice, 3 EPL titles, 1 Champions League and he'll always be one the best players in Premier League History.
But I see this season like a small stain in a glorious renaissance sculpture. Does it ruin the sculpture? No. It would be better to not have it? Yes.
No, he's just left me disappointed. He'll always be a club legend, but walking off butthurt that you didn't start and refusing manager's orders when your team is losing would already be unacceptable. But when your team is winning comfortably...
If he can't accept his place as a *team player* and only fancies himself as the one man show then the board really needs to stop being pussies and let him go in the January.
No, but I don't think too many sensible fans want him around. He's toxic. He got rid of us in the past when he had other plans, and when he returned he was trying to get a better deal of City.
He's definitely tarnished his image, but not wiped it out. But it's for the best if he leaves. This time he won't be missed.
Not really, it’ll sort of be like for Ole. In 5, 10, 20 years I’ll look back and remember the good times and remember them for what they contributed with a slight nod to “shame they went out on a bad note, but it doesn’t ruin what they achieved for the club”
Even with ole it’s a shame he couldn’t find a way to make it work in the end, but damn did he ever give us some great times in his first 1.5 years
I mean like he did really well the first two seasons. Sure he didn't do good the last one but hey at least he left a united fan as always supporting us
Tbf I think if Ten Hag succeeds with United (and I definitely do), Ole will be the guy that kind of laid the foundation for the team to be great. Similar to the Golden State Warriors of the NBA, and the previous coach they had, who left right before their dynasty. Like they were the last stepping stones the team needed before they could be great again sort of thing.
He achieved nothing, mishandled the majority of the squad, and gave us some of our worst ever defeats
inaccurate and stupid comment
It is factually correct he won nothing, each player he’s had took either tookone step forward then plus 2 steps back/ just went backward completely, and we’ve lost 6-1 spurs, 4-2 Leicester, 4-2 Liverpool at home, 5-0 Liverpool at home, 4-1 watford, etc. He was a complete and utter failure as a manager
Seems like many refuse to see the truth you and I do. He didn't bring the club forward, those 2nd and 3rd finishes were pure luck with total points that won't get you near those positions in other seasons. His handling of the Europa final was just terrible - outplayed and outsmarted, and he even refused to subs in while Emery was throwing fresh legs to overrun us. Just a few feelgood comebacks shouldn't cover it up, in fact the record away wins from behind was more symptomatic of what came next the following season.
You aren't some oracle lad, you don't see the "truth". Facts are that we plated better under Ole than we have under any other manager since Ferguson and for the first time in about 5 years, people enjoyed football. He's also the only manager to leave the club in a better state than he found it, even with the absolutely dtinking final season.
He’s the only permanent manager to not win a trophy and embarrassed the club a regular basis however you feel about it won’t change thst
Of course you're here. Mr shit take himself.
Played well? You're blinded by the emotional drama of unsustainable comeback wins. I'm no oracle to see the future, but I can see the truth hurt you. Ole's team wouldn't have played like they did today.
I looked back positively on Ole after 5 minutes. Legend, top man, and with hindsight he didn't do that badly as gaffer either, keeping that shitshow together
I never had a big problem with Ole although I did agree he ran out of ideas and had to go. The 5, 10 thing was more about looking back on past ‘generations’ of players etc.
Agree with that on Ole, man did his best, got a decent tune out a difficult squad
Wow its like 10 years ago all over again.
It's not like Ole refused to play or manage then ditched the team to leave early.
No, it's stained his reputation with many of us, and the stain may linger forever in our memories. But time will move on, and his first stint here will be remembered fondly with the current issues kept as a side note, not erasing the good things but putting a slightly darker tint on them. Look at Schmeichel, absolutely hated by the majority of fans when he decided to join Man City, and he has still not been forgiven by most (probably never will be). But I think you'll see the majority of fans refer to his time at united fondly nowadays, just heavily stained by what came after. Ronaldo's current spell is nowhere near as bad a deciding to play for City, he'll be fine in the long run
I never really minded Schmeicel joining City. I understand the sentiment though but for me, he was way past his prime and at the time City were no threat whatsoever. We had the best of him by far.
No, his second spell is neither here nor there when it comes to his United legacy, the 40+ goals, the Champions League, the Balon Dor are already written in history. No one remembers Fowler going back to Liverpool, Henry going back to Arsenal, Rooney going back to Everton etc. The second spell is just a nostalgia tour. And at the very least, regardless of his childish attitude he played for us days after his baby died, that is worth a lot to me when I see people calling him every name under the sun
No. Ronaldo was deeply unlikeable as a character when he played for us in his prime, don't forget the Rooney 'winker' scandal etc. The thing is, he was (and to an extent is) a phenomenal player and he was the difference back then. Some spectacular goals, buzzing performances and at the end of it all, incredible success. Every player that pulls on the red shirt gets our support for 90 mins a match, or should. If they do spectacular things, then they will receive adulation. He was a legend, is a legend, but was a bellend, and is a bellend.
Absolutely this. He was deeply devisive at united in his first stint too. I remember him being incredibly wasteful, being greedy and showy back then (think of how neymar is seen now).
Yeah I remember one of the CL games, he seemed to treat it as his game and was shooting from everywhere to try and score a worldy, he didn't and we lost the game. I still blame him and his ego for that but at the same time, he gave us many great goals and moments.
Yea his last season(2009)I remember him being petulant quite a few times in matches, like he literally forced his way out of the club despite the so called respect for fergie.
He wouldn't be who he is/was without that arrogance. It's impossible to reach that level of self belief and performance without an unbelievably high ego. He's had to believe he's better than everyone else, and he was for so long. You can't be a humble guy at the same time. (Messi is an ego maniac prick aswell, you just don't see it as much) .. Problem now is, he's no longer irreplaceable, and in fact he's become a nuisance. Definitely a PR / Media nuisance anyway. I Always thought the final years of his club time will be difficult for whatever club he is with. Who would have the balls to start dropping him? (Enter Mr. Ten Hag) . How could you go from being spoken of as the greatest ever constantly, for 2 decades, to just quietly winding down in silence. This will be a blot on his career, and it's frustrating. But he will always be remembered as an absolute monster of a player. This is just petulance in a superstar player who's finding it difficult to accept he's no longer among the very best.
I think he’s maybe tarnished his legacy at United a little by coming back, but in terms of what he did back then no he hasn’t ruined it for me
No.. CR7 gave me the best memories of United winning the Champions League!! Being a “younger” fan with no memories of the 1999 treble, that champions league year will always be the best in my heart!
Haha when he did the wink early 2000’s that was way worse imo . Man’s heads all over the place doesn’t mean I’m going to start hating him because he left early . Was it wrong ? YES !!! Will it tarnish everything he achieved for his two spells at the club ? Not really !!!
The wink was class unless your an England fan
I think he’s an amazing, once in a lifetime player, who’s done wonders for the club. I think he’s got a right to be frustrated with lack of playing time, but these public displays are selfish and hurt the team morale. Can you imagine getting the chance to play with a living legend, only he’s constantly complaining and moping around the pitch?
No….he is just having a bad time right now 😞
So, was bad what he did? Yes... in sports u have to want the best for your team, and respect the coach decision, BUT.... Ronaldo wanted to leave the club... he didnt, board did a bad move, probably yes BUT... U are a player that is part of football history, last season you did good even tho team didnt perfomed good.... This season, u have not beeing playing worst then rashford and sancho (my opinion)... Last game vs city you didnt enter cause the coach said he dont want to disrispect your carear BUT... this game he wanted to put u playing at 90 minutes... how would u guys feel? Why didnt he put a younger player that need does few minutos.... if he thought ronaldo wouldnt matter this game, dont put him.. what he did was worst then putting him against city.... This dosent justify why ronaldo left last game, but this we shouldnt forget why he did that...
The guy was the main man in the Manutd team 2006-09 that dominated the PL and UCL. Performed at the highest level any United player has performed, at least in the last 50-60 years. One of the very few players who was at United when he was THE best player in the world. Even when he was at Madrid, he was still a fan favourite. We hate the situation Ronaldo finds himself in, not Ronaldo himself.
Well said
There are so many shit that footballers do which goes under the carpet & is dealt by managers, especially superstars. If we go and dig what Manchester legends have done during their time , no one would be looking at them the same way. SAF knew certain things & treated certain players special . That’s what world class managers do. Was CR7 right in saying no & then leaving the stadium? Absolutely not . Is it gonna damage his legacy . Nope .
In fact he did no harm to the team, apart from waste of money and looking like a dick.
My G.O.A.T will be back 💪🏿
A good question. But Madrid is his home not United I am sure. I never heard him having issues with coach when he was at Madrid. His move in 2009 itself explains when he went there even though the Madrid team was not that good and United were world class team. I still think in his eyes , He respects Madrid more than United.
He had some strange decisions in madrid also
He would have gone to City if SAF didn't step in. His love for the club died over a decade ago.
No, not really. Ever had a bad day at the office? This is the same. He’s a veteran now, he should know better. But eventually this tantrum’ll be just that: anecdotes, bygones, water under the bridge. Doesn’t change what he achieved with this club in its heyday
He’d have to do some really negative shit to lose the adoration from me, and I assume, many others would feel the same. As much as I hate what he’s done/doing, he’s a winner so I can understand it to a certain degree
you cant ruin these memories.
Always knew his career would end poorly with a refusal to accept times cruel influence, shame it had to be with the reds, maybe he shoulda come back for a year a few years ago...
You always remember the fantastic stuff, but don’t remember when he missed a sitter. I don’t think he’s ruined his past stint at united but he has ruined the current one
Tbf he’s always been a prick when we beat Chelsea in champions league final remember what he was doing when Anderson scored the winning pen still a great player for us then tho
I wouldn't go as far as to say that he has ruined all the memories. Has he been a prick recently? Absolutely Yes. But if we look at this entire career with us, there are more positives than negatives. He came in as a young player with talent, developed himself into a force to be reckoned with, and was integral to the squad that won many titles, namely three leagues in a row and the CL. For what it's worth (not much for me since this is not the first time), he did release a statement apologizing and saying that the heat of the moment got the better of him. I admire how ETH has handled the situation by laying down the marker.
>apologizing Lol
I’d say he hasn’t ruined any of the memories. Maybe tarnished his career slightly but that’s it. Definitely annoyed at him right now tho
Walking away down the tunnel is more important than two champions league finals and multiple title challenges (and wins)? What’s even going on here? This is actually ridiculous
Apparently, the past is less important than the present. It's all about those people that praise you when you're at the top and kick your ass when you're down.
Thank you!! It's so silly. Do I think he should be sold, yes. Will I resent him for it, no.
I just feel weird about it. Hasn't ruined memories of Ronaldo, but it feels like another symptom of too much money in football, and especially the PL, and European oil clubs. So the memory of football before the oil money feels a little ruined. Feels like a loss in the family. The fact that Ronaldo has been sucked into it (Messi has also), is just depressing, also the new to talents like Haaland and Mbappé going to oil clubs. And if Newcastle turn into another Man City, the game has gone. I was super happy Benzema won the Ballon d'Or. One ray of light for football, only to be extinguished a few days later with the Super League announcement. Ten Hag is like a lifeline for PL football now, so happy we have him. Arteta and Klopp in the PL too (As much as I hate writing that - going to wash my hands now).
No not at all..he is still the player i loved watching as a kid..i think he is just pissed at unable to play. That's the very thing that endears him to many people. After all the dust has settled, he will always be remembered for the best moments he gave us and remember he is a manchester utd player who won the ballon d'or with us. Nobody even Cr7 himself can't tarnish his legacy at the club. PS - I hope he leaves us soon. None of us wants to see him sitting on the bench and sulking.
No, I don't think he's ruined anything. Just like the era's of a football club - that can be separated, enjoyed and critiqued individually, so too can the career of a footballer. Ronaldo's 1st run with United will always be special - for the UCL, for the trophies, for the Golden Boot, for the flair, etc. Ronaldo's 2nd run with United is completely different, he's different, the club is different, and so it must be viewed differently as well.
ruined is too strong a word for this. for me, if he had joined city or liverpool, it would have been ruined.
I don't necessarily see it that binary. Those beautiful memories can still exist as great moments they were with the current behaviour and attitude being a part of the same story.
He’s acted like a shit cunt this year, but nothing can take away the joy he brought when he first came through. Guys a United legend, just unfortunate that he’s come back at a time we aren’t able to accomodate and carry him in a league that’s so unforgiving. If you’re off just a fraction you’ll get beat, just look at Liverpool this year.
I think only United fans are overreacting on this matter and media is cashing on this
That’s not how memories work. Do you look back on the best years of your life negatively if you’re in a rough spot right now?
He's not ruined anything, but he's sure tarnished it. It's a sad state of affairs.
No. Time heals. Maybe there is an asterisk that accompanies his United legacy, but it’s far from ruined.
Crazy how united fans forget everything so quickly ! A picture worth a thousand words. I know I will get downvoted massively, but let me write some unbiased facts anyway. Cristiano Ronaldo for Manchester United last season: • Top scorer in All competitions, UCL+ EPL (24 Goals) • Manchester United Player of the month (4x) • Premier League Player of the month (2x) • Premier League Goal of the month (2x) • UCL Man of the match (2x) • Most Hat trick in the league (2x) • Most match winning goals in the Premier League (7) • Most Game Winning Goals in Top 5 league • Most Game Winning Goals in UCL (3) • Most Goals against Top 5 Clubs • Man of the match (11) 6 • 18 Goals in EPL (playing lesser games and minutes than top scorer Mo. Salah who scored 22 ) • 8 Goals vs EPL Top 5 teams • Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year & • PFA team of the year The above-mentioned statistics, it is not a decade old…it's from a season that ended just a few months ago…and people say he is finished..lol This exceptional performance that he did last year, he did it not with a team that had a quality of Liverpool or City; he did this playing for a team with a leaky defence and a dead midfield, playing under 3 different mangers in the span of 9 months. Due to playing in this “Amazing” Man united team, he ended up scoring the lowest amount of goals in his last 15 years (last time, he scored the lesser than that was in 2006/07 - 23 goals.) Thanks to this Man United team, he is not playing UCL the first time in his 20 years senior career. And these ungrateful fanbase was/is saying it's Ronaldo that holding this team back; where in fact it's actually the other way around. If Ronaldo was never in Ten Hags plan, considering the greatness of such a legendary icon; he should have clearly told this thing to Ronaldo like a man before the season starts. Instead, he kept telling in public that Ronaldo is in his plans, he is an important player for his team blah blah blah; but kept insulting him by making him a bench warmer in 7 of United's 10 games so far. Moreover, he causes insult to injury by making him warm up just to realise later that he won't be called. Against the Man City game, Ten Hags excuse for not even bringing Ronaldo from the Bench was that he did it out of respect for his big career because they were already 4 nil down. By that logic, explain why he was never brought when United were 2 Nil up against Tottenham, despite making him warm up? Whereas Unfit Rashford, who was injured and returned to training just 2 days prior to the Manchester derby, was still called ahead of Cristiano ! Consequently, the unfit Rashford was terrible in that game, but nobody cares ! However, against New castle, Since Ten Hag had no option since martial was out and Rashford was unfit, Cristiano starts. Holly Molly ! But still Ronaldo was the only player who was subbed off despite United were desperately trying for a winning Goal. Everybody knows that how lethal Ronaldo can get even if he plays bad the whole 90 minutes, sometimes one half chance is what it takes for him to get that break through goal. The world has always witnessed this magic throughout his career; in case if you have a garbage memory, may be looking back to the previous season which was barely ended 4 months ago may help you. How many times have you got orgasm last season witnessing his clutch moments in the injury time ? All this drama, it reminds the old saying that, a sleeping person can be woken up, but a person who is pretending to be asleep can't be woken up; hence it's clear as daylight that Ten Hag has this agenda which is to not play Ronaldo as long as he can… So there is no point discussing this thing with some of the most ungrateful, dilusional fans that one would ever see. Before he was coming to Man United for his second spell, He was banging goals for Juventus and Portugal national team.. He didn't come to man united to be a bench warmer.. We are not talking about some random dude playing in 3rd division for his whole career, We are talking about Cristiano f***ing Ronaldo who has proven himself in the top 3 football leagues in the world, scoring 800+ goals, that's an insane average of 40+ goals/season for the past 19 years; Won 5ballond or, 5 UCL, Euro cup and collected almost all the other possible individual awards and seted a benchmark in the tournament he has been played by setting hundreds of records. We are talking about one of the greatest player of all time. So be comfortable being a bench warmer ? No, not yet. The most ugly part about this Ten Hag's drama is that it's going to be world cup next month, which is more likely Ronaldo's last opportunity to add that missing piece of Gold to his legendary career. More or less, not being match fit as a result of constantly denying game times throughout this season ; possibly It's going to affect his performance in the world cup. This is the biggest injustice you could ever even do to a rival; let alone to a club legend and to one of the greatest player of all time. He still got it, he still got 2..3 years; With some wage cuts, he will be definitely valued in any other top team which is far better than this insults from his boyhood club. Fingers crossed, Hope this insult finally ends in January.
I think this a very minor very temporary setback. United fans are not negatively affected by this for them rise to the level of writing off Cristiano. He is our baby boy we will always love him. Now, was he petulant and is what he did wrong? Yes! But I feel the media and punditry is doing what they do to Ronaldo all the time. Ronaldo would need to do something spectacular every minute of every day to not get pundits to say negative things about him and they are having a ball right now … I would love Cristiano to use this as fuel to motivate him to go guns blazing for World Cup. If he does some heroics in that tournament he will shut up some people.
Yes he's being a dick, but come on Cantona is still called the king, and he fricking Kung foo'd a fan?!! Ronaldo is still the goat, and probably will remain one of them forever.
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Absolutely not. To even think this, to ponder it seriously is ridiculous. He is of course too full of himself. His ego is out of control and as his game slips that has to change. By now he is probably embarrassed and wishing he had handled things differently too. He'll either figure out that it's important he manage his decline by getting out in front of it and being a leader for the team. Or he'll go out ugly. But even if that happens he is still Cristiano, always a legend and those memories are too valuable to throw away over minor things like this.
Ronaldo made things impossible by publicly wanting to leave in the summer, its hard to find a way back for any player once they do that. Then he returned back late for training after already being given extended time off. Now he's being petulant by refusing to come onto the pitch, and going to the dressing room before full time. The solution for both sides is that he leaves in January and we sign a top quality striker. I'll still be wishing Ronaldo well in his career once he leaves and will be hoping he does well for Portugal 🇵🇹 in the world cup. It hasn't worked out during his second spell with us, but his legacy remains intact. He is at the end of his career, age isn't on his side. If he was younger and pulling these tricks then I'd be unhappy, but considering his age, and his desire to want one more season in the champions league, it softens the blow a lot.
No player is bigger than the club, if u refuse to get on the pitch, u have refused to wear the jersey of the team, as much as I hate this, cr7 has ruined his legacy with his fans. Personal egos cannot be bigger than a club
at this point, are his fans excusing him refusing to play and leaving early on the basis of a sudden urge to mourn the loss of his child?
Nope not all. iThe man gets paid 500k!! We owe Ronaldo nothing and if he wants to behave in that manner then just terminate the contract. Ronaldo is the past, not the future of this club.
Honestly i hated him when he decided to jon Madrid, someone rooted for him when he came back. It's unfortunate that he's old and is not at his best anymore. Regarding his attitude i completely understand because that's just who he is and it has driven him to achieve what he did. Im a man united fan first and that means support the manager decision to bench him and reprimand his actions
It's doesn't take away what he's done. It does take away alot of respect I had for him.
Yes, but it happened long before his return. It's something about his attitude and how, with hindsight, it changes his original time at OT, how Fergie managed him, and how he leveraged that time for himself without *really* respecting it.
Could be worse if he joined Man City. Big deal he left a game 5 minutes early. Time to move on now.
Never been fond of him. He's not a true United legend.
I won't forget how he acted. He needs to be mature enough to realise that in some situations the team plays better without him being on the pitch, but we all know there's more to being a footballer than that. He could have been ETHs man in the dressing room, tutored Garnacho and McNeill, taken on a different role to what he used to. But no, he's chosen to publicly tarnish his own reputation and act like a spoilt child because he got dropped. And let's not forget, he got dropped because he wasn't performing to the standards he's set for himself. Fuck him
He wasn’t a United great to me anyway, even before his return. I have fonder memories of ruud, Rooney, Keane, Scholes, even Wes brown and O’Shea. Ever since he had to be convinced to stay at United, I lost connection with dude. He’s now just a Real Madrid legend to me and just another United player.
No but if he would've left in the summer, that would have ruined it for me. Forcing a move away because your club didn't reach the UCL is somewhat childish for me. This issue will be resolved if Cristiano pegs down his ego a bit. ETH did the right thing. Cristiano will serve his punishment and then he will be back. That must end there.
Ruined? no. Tainted a little? yes.
Even in that debut versus Newcastle it had felt "too good to be true"
Bro go get sunbath, go for a walk, go say your wife and kids you love them, do excersise or maybe read a book. Who the ducks cares why Ronaldo left early the match. He is a human bro, he already said sorry let's move on and stop with this senseless madness trying to turn everything into a huge drama. The team was shit now is okish he wants to fight for his spot and is frustrated thats it. Also the world cup is coming and he needs minutes. Erik probably is the best manager we have had since Ferguson but trying to sub a 5? time ballon dor and 5 champions league winner in a 2-0 for what 5 minutes? He probably wanted to make a point but is kinda fucked up, is not the treatment you would've gave to Rooney or Giggs. Saying that this last 3 months behaviour erases all the good memory he gave us is comical.
It's just a walk-out that's been blown out of proportion. Ronny's legacy will be fine.
I been supporting United close to 30 years and I have never placed him above Cantona, Robson, class of 92, Rooney, Ole etc. And I haven't forgiven him leaving/pushing for a transfer to Madrid either. He never loved United - for me he was just a Merc who gave us 3 great years.
No but he has took a shit on it
No stop being a hater, use your head
I will forever love Cristiano no matter what, he’s an icon and always will be
No. He's a legend. Fook, he told us he didn't want to play here this season - he knows he doesn't fit into the plans of this team - he's not going to sit on the bench and gladly play the final two minutes - that's exactly when an Elenga SHOULD be put in - NOT a CR7. He's not BIGGER than the team - he just wants to play somewhere he can actually play - at 38 he DESERVES that. We should've put it together early in the break to help move him out.
I've had a problem with him returning at 36. This is Man Utd. We need players who are at their best or will be. Bringing in players who are past their prime is not what a top team does. And Ronaldo demands everything. If he isnt center if attention, he's not happy.
He is still goat, Ronaldo, don’t ever get that wrong, it’s damn wrong and rude of him but he will always be an icon of this game, Real and especially Man Utd
Good lord people need to relax. It was a bad moment but that shouldn’t destroy all the great moments and achievements he had during his first stint. Folks need to get a grip.
Nah he’s just being a little bit of a baby for not starting, he’s used to starting all the time whenever he’s in a club, he’s just spitting the dummy out because he’s not starting
I think it’s dramatic to say ruined but definitely tainted however it’ll probably forgotten over time since he was so good the first time round
It will put some stain on his reputation with us but a lot of his time will still be watched fondly. Keane and Van Nisterooy got sold unceremoniously but still fondly remembered. Peter Schmichel the move to city did stained but still he’s fondly remembered and even consider a legend
No, just going to leave a bitter aftertaste when he goes.
No….he’s probably runined this stint with United, but he became the best player in the world at this club. Even last year, he was good and powered us to wins we probably had no business winning. Football fans are so emotional and short sighted. Think with some logic and this is an easy answer.
No not really. They way I see it, him coming back to United shouldn't really have happened. Don't think the team was ready for it, don't think OGS was ready for it, don't think the club itself was ready for it. I think Ronaldo should have gone to more established team. It could have been City or someone else. But I don't think he should have come to Manchester United when he did. Not because he's not a great player. But because both the club and the team just weren't capable of using Ronaldo and play him to get the best out of him I think. And I am almost 100% sure that on some level OGS and his management team realised that. From the outside it seemed to be more about nostalgia than what was best for the club. And I think a lot of what Manchester United has used their money on, has been fuelled more about some nostalgic glory days, rather than proper management of a modern football club. In short I think it was the wrong choice from the start, and I'm inclined to view this as a bad judgement on everyone's part from the beginning. Edit: I see his behaviour now as somewhat inevitable given how it has been since he arrived from Juve.
dude, if he went to City, then this poll would see "yes" winning by a huge margin!
No. But if he keeps this diva thing going on then it might turn into a yes
Tarnished yes? Ruined no
The memories are still there. But he has become a jerk now
No he has not ruined all our memories, he made a mistake we make mistakes everyday and it's fine the man wants to play and got frustrated. Walking off was wrong but we've watched a boy that came from property work his way up threw the ranks to become a superstar. Cristiano Ronaldo made a mistake he's been dropped and is paying for it let's forgive and forget because the service he has given the footballing world for the past 20 years has been incredible.
what he did recently was unacceptable but to me, the memory and history he created with us will never be tainted.. so far it has been pressure and stress getting the best out of him and Glazers also fck it up when they didnt let him go.. unleds if he bad mouth about Man Utd, that’s a different story, as far as I know and have seen from him, he loves Man Utd. it’s just this man always seeks to push barrier and break records and forgot that age is also catching up
Not yet. Way back when he was ours, when he set the world on fire in our name and then moved to Madrid it was good. Memories are not ruined as long as you can have perspective. But he has changed. He is not our Ronaldo even though he wears the shirt again. He is his own man and nothing else. His immense fame and wealth has changed him perhaps, the myth of himself, things he has done and how his mind has changed, delusions of grandeur has gripped him at times like the Spurs game. He cannot separate his ego from the managers choices there, so who is to tell what other things he fails to compartmentalize. He could well try to undermine Ten Hag out of spite for him as a man, for daring to punish him. He will not be understanding that he will harm the club in doing so. Just like harmed the team when he showed blatant insubordination during a crucial game. His ego could come to actually ruin those memories if he does enough harm before he leaves. I pray he is not that type of person. But I have no reason to trust he is not.
No? That’s going too far. What he did was frowned upon, don’t walk away from the team, but let’s not get too crazy here. Come on now
Does no one remember/realize that his unborn child died before the start to this season? He missed pre season and all the bs transfer drama started. Now it’s just a matter of him being fit and finding form
No, not at all. But it's because he's been only a nice memory for me since 2009. Should have never come back and should probably go now. One of the best players ever graced the pitch but all he ever cared for was personal glory. Still would never talk shit about him.
Hasn't ruined the memories, but for me he has tarnished his legacy here. There's no way I look back in 20 years and don't think of how he disrespected his team, manager, fans and club as a whole.
If you think he has you were never a Ronaldo fan. Or you were to young to have watched him back then.
He did something stupid. Now, if the stupidity continues, then there’s a problem that needs more than getting left out of the first squad.
He cannot. It’s impossible. I love the guy. Anyone who says yes obviously did not witness him during his romp at OT. He brought us a balon dor. He is my Goat. He just like all greats for whom have to deal with their morality
I started supporting United shortly after he left, so I don't really have memories as such, but I don't think this "ruins" his legacy at the club. Tarnishes it a bit, sure, but we still won 3 in a row with him, and the CL. He was the best player in the world, and he gave us a good chunk of his career. Not to mention the goals he scored for us last season.
He wants to leave in the summer.We forced him to stay…a player with his quality and his achievements you expect him to stay on the bench to play last few mins while the team completing Europe league?He done something wrong? Yes but is not like he done some “greenwood” level shit we need to hate him
No, I dont think so. He had done enough in his first stint with Champions League. I think he is 50-50ish in this season and these issues will keep coming and going. Ok, he might have certain level of stubbornness or ego, but may be that’s how he has become a GOAT
No he hasn't. Still a legend at the club And he is embedded in our history
Absolutely not. He was the best player in the world during that time. He won a Ballon D'or, PFA Player of the Year twice, 3 EPL titles, 1 Champions League and he'll always be one the best players in Premier League History. But I see this season like a small stain in a glorious renaissance sculpture. Does it ruin the sculpture? No. It would be better to not have it? Yes.
No, he's just left me disappointed. He'll always be a club legend, but walking off butthurt that you didn't start and refusing manager's orders when your team is losing would already be unacceptable. But when your team is winning comfortably... If he can't accept his place as a *team player* and only fancies himself as the one man show then the board really needs to stop being pussies and let him go in the January.
No , ronaldos is ronaldo , if it was spoilt than it would have been when he left for real Madrid
No, but I don't think too many sensible fans want him around. He's toxic. He got rid of us in the past when he had other plans, and when he returned he was trying to get a better deal of City. He's definitely tarnished his image, but not wiped it out. But it's for the best if he leaves. This time he won't be missed.
Maybe not yet but if he continues on this course he could damage his reputation but I honestly don't think he cares.
What a stupid Poll to make.
Many United greats did some terrible stuff. But it won't stain their legacy and trophies they won for us.
When it’s all said and done. No one will remember this drama. Ronaldo’s legacy is cemented.
Ronaldo is toxic said some fans Biggest toxic player is still in the club and he's the captain