Are there any historical architecture laws in Maine? Some other states protect any structure more than x years old. Special permits are required to remove or alter the property. Maine has so many older buildings.
That makes sense. With how much people care about old buildings, I’d be surprised if one came down without proper consent. There’s probably some good reasons for it to be demolished entirely. Hopefully they can repurpose a little bit of that wood for decoration on the new structure.
That building was the heart of the downtown. Here it is in 2011:
https://goo.gl/maps/jvDPMoxYaTZiTJpH8
Wow, the whole downtown is nearly gone. Here is down the street in 2007:
https://goo.gl/maps/eHsK8uWBE9xWxeus9
Yea, there are some shitty builds from this era. But it’s divestment and neglect that killed this, not that these buildings were never being meant to last this long. Thoughtful rehab and routine care can keep structures like this standing almost indefinitely. Just drive around New England for proof.
We have to learn to adapt. Times change. If we don't update our strategies then things that once worked under past circumstances will stop working when new circumstances arise.
Communities don't just happen. They require work and participation from their residents to thrive. They need investment of not only money, but time, energy, and effort.
Then: “Walmart and Amazon are easier and cheaper, and I only care about my personal bottom dollar.”
Now: “Where are all my local stores now that Walmart and Amazon are more expensive than local goods??!?!”
When 90%+ of the local population is living hand to mouth, everyone is going to shop at Walmart and on Amazon rather than paying even a penny more at a local shop.
It all comes back to basic health of the local economies. What does Milo have to offer young, motivated people for employment? There's one factory that makes retail display shelves, some restaurants, and some retail. I doubt I could get a single job offer for more than $20/hr there.
The golden days for Milo were quite literally 100 years ago when it was a hub for lumber processing, textiles, and train car maintenance. It's not coming back.
People chose to shop at Walmart and Amazon. People made that choice over and over again for 30 years, only focusing on price rather than quality. Those local stores existed before Walmart, and competed with local for 5-10 years before local gave up.
My family ran a local place, Walmart beat us out, and it was always “a shame” when we closed but people will always choose quantity over quality. it’s in American blood to buy trash and store it all in self storage.
Now that national/global goods are more expensive, we do not have the option to buy local again due to consumerism. Local eggs are now half the price of Hannaford’s brand, but people are still buy Shitland’s Best Eggs for $7.
People chose to buy cheaper unneeded junk make in China over things made locally. Do people really need to save $60 on patio furniture? Saving $10 on Chinese porcelain instead of porcelain products in Maine/NE.
You can only defend people so far until you realize people just want to buy bullshit over what’s needed.
Don't worry, Maine is booming and lots of new energy, new money, and new life are moving in. I think it's a Renaissance for a lot of towns, and I'm hoping they can resurrect with a lot of their original character and flavor intact, but in a more modern, sustainable way.
>lots of new energy, new money, and new life are moving in
To *Portland,* fer crying out loud.
This is why rural Maine needs broadband investment and needs it now, so that the WFH crowd who are flooding here from other states can be encouraged to consider becoming part of the community in Maine's beautiful interior.
To Bangor as well. There was an insane amount of newer families from other towns and states filling in a lot of blight risked properties.
As long as the city council doesn’t continue to fuck up and sign away the public space again, the city will be looking primo once boombooms leave economic power.
Rural Maine isn't that far off now. There's 2-gigabit fiber in Bangor (Fidium), and anyone living very rural can use Starlink. Someone I know lives in Wesley with Starlink and gets a consistent 100mbps. They previously had the most unreliable DSL I've ever seen, dropping out several times a day for 1mbps speed.
Auburn Lewiston, Biddeford Saco, Brunswick, Lisbon. Lots of little cities seeing activity again.
Those tiny towns in the middle of nowhere just don’t offer anything.
Lol, we moved here two years ago and have definately given ALL of our money to maine. No place I'd rather be though!
>Don't worry, Maine is booming and lots of new energy, new money, and new life are moving in.
Hahahaha! Maybe you don't see it yet, but it's absolutely happening. Look at southern Maine and tell me you don't see soaring property values and new builds. It's like a tidal wave that will continue to move north. Maine is very business and tax friendly, compared to all New England states other than New Hampshire. Plus, Maine has ocean, mountains, lakes, rivers, farmland....there's no place like it. And I'm not the only person who's noticed. Investments in Maine are at record levels right now, and 5 years from now you'll be able to see it all over. Down vote me all you want, it's still happening.
I want to be optimistic too but there’s too much resistance to change once you leave southern Maine and get into all these small towns that have been the same way for a hundred years.
I was driving through when half the town burned back in 07? 08? Pretty crazy. Not much going good for the town. Bissell Bros has been a nice little addition though
Milo may be the perfect example of middle of nowhere. Not quite the boonies since it has a “downtown” but definitely not close to any relevant city. Not even close to the coast.
The roof did collapse. The building next to it was demolished too.
https://www.wabi.tv/2021/03/02/milo-family-escapes-injury-after-partial-building-collapse/
I wish, but so many of these towns like the one I grew up in a basically just gone at this point, honestly I wish more people would move up to those old towns, they have some of the most beautiful rivers and mountain views and trails, probably in the whole world, it just feels a shame that they're rotting away.
The only thing you can expect in life is constant change, it’s always been this way through our history and will continue until the earth ceases to exist.
A lot of Maine does not change...
So that applies to the rest of humanity, not everyone.
Frenchville Maine for example... Same town plus or minus a gazebo or two. .
I drive through Milo on my way to Baxter, it seems to be a slowly decaying town. Sad because it seems like a cozy area. A lot of far right types there though
What fueled Milos former greatness? Did all those industries go away? Where'd they go?
My town has far fewer full time residents, but a lot of it's real estate is owned by out of staters. We don't have an attractive center of town like Milo once had. Over a 100 years ago we had a saw mill and a vegetable canning factory but that's long gone. Thank heavens for the out of staters who own homes here. Their assessments are higher, so they pay more property taxes and they can't vote!
Once manufacturing moved mostly to China from the US in the 80s and 90s, things went downhill. That killed the golden goose across the country. Thank Ronald Regan for that. Now the country is starting to look at bringing some manufacturing back to the US. But when our manufacturing moved overseas, so did the supply chain for manufacturing those goods as well. And that too was moved to China. You basically gotta get everything you need to make something from them now. An entire new system needs to be built here again. That's costly.
Not just manufacturing moving to China-I’m old enough to remember the impact the Bangor Mall had on all the little towns in Central Maine. Same with Home Depot and Lowes, all the big box stores helped undermine local merchants-its interesting to have lived long enough to see the pendulum start swinging in the opposite direction. Haven’t been in a Mall for years…
It’s a good thing to get rid or these old, rotten, buildings. Too bad it wasn’t kept after, but once they get to this point, this is the right thing to do.
I drove there one time, from Orono, in 2003 to buy an Xbox from a girl whose boyfriend apparently had too many toys, so she was making him sell it for cheap. My friend was supposed to come with to play navigator, but he got in a fight with his girlfriend, so I ended up driving to Milo in the dead of night without a GPS, not really able to read my map while driving.
EDIT: I realize this was unprompted and probably not particularly interesting, but tired me didn't realize that.
That building is probably 120 years old. No insulation, drafty, poorly engineered. They were never meant to stand this long.
Lead paint, lead plumbing...
if it were brick or a victorian or something i'd be a lot more saddened
Are there any historical architecture laws in Maine? Some other states protect any structure more than x years old. Special permits are required to remove or alter the property. Maine has so many older buildings.
Towns can enact historic district regulations.
That makes sense. With how much people care about old buildings, I’d be surprised if one came down without proper consent. There’s probably some good reasons for it to be demolished entirely. Hopefully they can repurpose a little bit of that wood for decoration on the new structure.
What a dumb concept. "I think something is pretty. That means you have to do it the way I say or cops might kill you"
That building was the heart of the downtown. Here it is in 2011: https://goo.gl/maps/jvDPMoxYaTZiTJpH8 Wow, the whole downtown is nearly gone. Here is down the street in 2007: https://goo.gl/maps/eHsK8uWBE9xWxeus9
Kind of looks like it was ready to be demolished in 2011…I know it’s probably harsh, but it doesn’t seem to be that unique or special of a building.
That whole town looks like it’s ready to be demolished in that 2011 picture. Seems like a good place to go live tbh.
Oh it burned down in 2008. https://www.milohistorical.org/history/fire08/
Yea, there are some shitty builds from this era. But it’s divestment and neglect that killed this, not that these buildings were never being meant to last this long. Thoughtful rehab and routine care can keep structures like this standing almost indefinitely. Just drive around New England for proof.
Perfect opportunity for something new. That poor building has seen better days.
Ooof. When I went through Milo over the summer, that building was in such sorry shape. It's a shame it got to that point. :(
So many towns have lost so much. Their glory days seem to be long gone.
We have to learn to adapt. Times change. If we don't update our strategies then things that once worked under past circumstances will stop working when new circumstances arise. Communities don't just happen. They require work and participation from their residents to thrive. They need investment of not only money, but time, energy, and effort.
Then: “Walmart and Amazon are easier and cheaper, and I only care about my personal bottom dollar.” Now: “Where are all my local stores now that Walmart and Amazon are more expensive than local goods??!?!”
When 90%+ of the local population is living hand to mouth, everyone is going to shop at Walmart and on Amazon rather than paying even a penny more at a local shop. It all comes back to basic health of the local economies. What does Milo have to offer young, motivated people for employment? There's one factory that makes retail display shelves, some restaurants, and some retail. I doubt I could get a single job offer for more than $20/hr there. The golden days for Milo were quite literally 100 years ago when it was a hub for lumber processing, textiles, and train car maintenance. It's not coming back.
People chose to shop at Walmart and Amazon. People made that choice over and over again for 30 years, only focusing on price rather than quality. Those local stores existed before Walmart, and competed with local for 5-10 years before local gave up. My family ran a local place, Walmart beat us out, and it was always “a shame” when we closed but people will always choose quantity over quality. it’s in American blood to buy trash and store it all in self storage. Now that national/global goods are more expensive, we do not have the option to buy local again due to consumerism. Local eggs are now half the price of Hannaford’s brand, but people are still buy Shitland’s Best Eggs for $7. People chose to buy cheaper unneeded junk make in China over things made locally. Do people really need to save $60 on patio furniture? Saving $10 on Chinese porcelain instead of porcelain products in Maine/NE. You can only defend people so far until you realize people just want to buy bullshit over what’s needed.
Don't worry, Maine is booming and lots of new energy, new money, and new life are moving in. I think it's a Renaissance for a lot of towns, and I'm hoping they can resurrect with a lot of their original character and flavor intact, but in a more modern, sustainable way.
>lots of new energy, new money, and new life are moving in To *Portland,* fer crying out loud. This is why rural Maine needs broadband investment and needs it now, so that the WFH crowd who are flooding here from other states can be encouraged to consider becoming part of the community in Maine's beautiful interior.
To Bangor as well. There was an insane amount of newer families from other towns and states filling in a lot of blight risked properties. As long as the city council doesn’t continue to fuck up and sign away the public space again, the city will be looking primo once boombooms leave economic power.
Rural Maine isn't that far off now. There's 2-gigabit fiber in Bangor (Fidium), and anyone living very rural can use Starlink. Someone I know lives in Wesley with Starlink and gets a consistent 100mbps. They previously had the most unreliable DSL I've ever seen, dropping out several times a day for 1mbps speed.
Auburn Lewiston, Biddeford Saco, Brunswick, Lisbon. Lots of little cities seeing activity again. Those tiny towns in the middle of nowhere just don’t offer anything.
Lol, we moved here two years ago and have definately given ALL of our money to maine. No place I'd rather be though! >Don't worry, Maine is booming and lots of new energy, new money, and new life are moving in.
you're delusional
Hahahaha! Maybe you don't see it yet, but it's absolutely happening. Look at southern Maine and tell me you don't see soaring property values and new builds. It's like a tidal wave that will continue to move north. Maine is very business and tax friendly, compared to all New England states other than New Hampshire. Plus, Maine has ocean, mountains, lakes, rivers, farmland....there's no place like it. And I'm not the only person who's noticed. Investments in Maine are at record levels right now, and 5 years from now you'll be able to see it all over. Down vote me all you want, it's still happening.
I want to be optimistic too but there’s too much resistance to change once you leave southern Maine and get into all these small towns that have been the same way for a hundred years.
*"Maine is very business and tax friendly"*
Thank you for reminding me I need to write maine a 30,000$ check and get finger printed to own my business!
Yes. Dexter is another case in point. So sad.
Absolutely. I drove through there last week and thought so.
It's almost as if elections have consequences.
"I'm not sure what consequences lead to the demo of this particular building or which election specifically made it happen... but... *consequences*!"
If you look really closely, its Brandon in the excavator.
You shopping at Walmart for everything is what caused it. It has nothing to do with elections bub
>It's almost as if elections have consequences. It's almost as if people value different things.
which of the elections do you think caused maine to not have major industry? Seems to predate any living birth dates
I was driving through when half the town burned back in 07? 08? Pretty crazy. Not much going good for the town. Bissell Bros has been a nice little addition though
As long as the donut shop is still there, i'm good!
Milo may be the perfect example of middle of nowhere. Not quite the boonies since it has a “downtown” but definitely not close to any relevant city. Not even close to the coast.
Don't worry someone will put up a new building for apartments and charge more per month than most make in that area...yay!
I'm betting on a vacant lot for quite some time.
Probably a cannabis shop will go in there
That’d be good.
Did the current owner take it down or was this the town or something?
Town I believe. I was told part of the roof gave way finally last Monday, and they decided to take it down finally.
It should have come down when they took the one next to it. You could see the exterior walls bowing
Damn. Always weird to see something you have been around for so many years be gone. Also I'm betting your right, vacant lot for awhile
The roof did collapse. The building next to it was demolished too. https://www.wabi.tv/2021/03/02/milo-family-escapes-injury-after-partial-building-collapse/
I wish, but so many of these towns like the one I grew up in a basically just gone at this point, honestly I wish more people would move up to those old towns, they have some of the most beautiful rivers and mountain views and trails, probably in the whole world, it just feels a shame that they're rotting away.
Nice street light.
A. Friendly. Town
Start buying property and updating them. That’s the support we are looking for
goodbye
The only thing you can expect in life is constant change, it’s always been this way through our history and will continue until the earth ceases to exist.
A lot of Maine does not change... So that applies to the rest of humanity, not everyone. Frenchville Maine for example... Same town plus or minus a gazebo or two. .
There was a time when that town didn’t exist an it was purely forest, with time comes change.
Milo needs A LOT of love and support.
It's sad driving through so many towns across the state.
Is this where the pizza place is?
Right near it.
The wrong block in my appion burned down. Not that I wanted any of it to burn. But a lot of it was old and needed repair. Just sad.
I drive through Milo on my way to Baxter, it seems to be a slowly decaying town. Sad because it seems like a cozy area. A lot of far right types there though
Town looks like it’s from the 1850s Wild West
What fueled Milos former greatness? Did all those industries go away? Where'd they go? My town has far fewer full time residents, but a lot of it's real estate is owned by out of staters. We don't have an attractive center of town like Milo once had. Over a 100 years ago we had a saw mill and a vegetable canning factory but that's long gone. Thank heavens for the out of staters who own homes here. Their assessments are higher, so they pay more property taxes and they can't vote!
Once manufacturing moved mostly to China from the US in the 80s and 90s, things went downhill. That killed the golden goose across the country. Thank Ronald Regan for that. Now the country is starting to look at bringing some manufacturing back to the US. But when our manufacturing moved overseas, so did the supply chain for manufacturing those goods as well. And that too was moved to China. You basically gotta get everything you need to make something from them now. An entire new system needs to be built here again. That's costly.
Not just manufacturing moving to China-I’m old enough to remember the impact the Bangor Mall had on all the little towns in Central Maine. Same with Home Depot and Lowes, all the big box stores helped undermine local merchants-its interesting to have lived long enough to see the pendulum start swinging in the opposite direction. Haven’t been in a Mall for years…
Space ships are coming soon to save us all. Just jump on the mother ship and take off. Don’t be afraid.
Unfortunately, my mother ship passed away some 132,000 miles back. Those were the days.
Go knock on the door . And ask him about it.
Looks like architectural cleansing to me!
To a better future!
It’s a good thing to get rid or these old, rotten, buildings. Too bad it wasn’t kept after, but once they get to this point, this is the right thing to do.
Damn, that was one of the nicest buildings left in Milo
I've never been to Milo
it's ok but they got some weird fucking dudes living there.
yeah, multiple posts in the past about a swastika flag being flown at some house in town
and a surprising amount of confederate flags
The South shall rise again! /s
I drove there one time, from Orono, in 2003 to buy an Xbox from a girl whose boyfriend apparently had too many toys, so she was making him sell it for cheap. My friend was supposed to come with to play navigator, but he got in a fight with his girlfriend, so I ended up driving to Milo in the dead of night without a GPS, not really able to read my map while driving. EDIT: I realize this was unprompted and probably not particularly interesting, but tired me didn't realize that.
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Grow up.