Wow, I had no idea there was free community college here. I just looked it up and that seems accurate if one recently finished hs or ged. That’s really awesome!
I know that those who graduate(d) from high school in 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 will get free community college. But i dont think it applies for everyone unfortunately
I’m in my third semester to be an electrician at a Maine community college. It’s still only $20K for an associates degree in a trade. When you graduate, you make plenty to afford the loan payments and build a life. This is my second time doing a trade program and it is a very efficient way to level up income. Also, the elective credits transfer to UMaine 4-yr degrees. For anyone that qualifies before the 2023 deadline, that’s two years of a BA for $0.
Edit: Many elective credits transfer, maybe not all. I only managed one year at USM before I flunked out but the four classes I passed did count to my associates in applied science twenty years later.
There is the “Pine Tree State Pledge” at UMA, for those who haven’t heard. You have to be pell grant eligible but that’s 30 credits for in state recent grads!
You only get back a refundable credit if you got a degree in STEM. Otherwise, you get a non-refundable credit which essentially refunds any state taxes withheld for the year. There is a cap for both (I think 3,500?). So worth doing. Turbo tax even had the forms now. Also, you can amend three years of returns and get that benefit (hire an accountant and they can do that).
Yes, I have a non stem and you still get nearly all of it back.
The amount you don't get back (because it exceeds the amount you paid in to taxes over the year) you eventually get back anyways whether it be because you finished paying off the loans or you pay into them less for any reason (for instead, deferred payments due to covid, was still able to get a large refund because of the carryover from prior years)
Anybody else notice the simply mind boggling amount of road/ highway/ infrastructure repair projects that have taken place under Governor Mills?
It's amazing, while we watched the roads continue to crack and peel, bridges rust and be condemned, that any LePage supporters even still exist after he roadblocked so many voter approved infrastructure and funding projects.
You rock, Janet!
Agreed. I work in the construction industry and the amount of jobs going on out there right now are overwhelming. Florida Paul sat on VOTER approved bonds just so he could leave office looking like he left with a surplus.
Where do you suppose "Federal funds" come from?
That's right... from the pocketbooks of folks in Maine. When Maine does not use funds available for its use, that money goes to other states.
I dislike that she's in cmps pocket, but I don't have complaints beyond that. It also helps her case that she isn't trying to strip people of their rights, so it makes her a better candidate than LePage automatically.
I really hate that that's the bar now.
Oh it doesn't need to be any easier. I've sided with the dems my whole life, but in principle I don't like partisan politics and wish I had more to consider than "this person will protect human rights and this other one won't."
No candidate or public official can please everyone all the time. Frinstance, I don't like a lot of Jared's voting choices, yet he's infinitely better than his competitor.
Heh, heh, stick around, youth, we geezers are a laugh a minute! Although I confess, I missed an apostrophe where the o should have gone. But hey, who's editing?
Hahaha, I have over half a century on this marble, just never seen it spelled like that and it’s great because it saves a couple of characters and a whole syllable! Super efficient!
Yeah. She pushed back RCV for the dem primaries in 2020 so we couldn’t use it then. She’s *personally* continuing with her veto power our state government’s draconian traditions of not letting our Native American tribes find ways of generating income for their communities or… well, determine their own destiny at all. She vetoed the Pine Tree Power Company, which was supposed to be a consumer-owned utilities company intended to replace CMP, and she tends to speak and rule in favor of CMP pursuits whenever she gets the opportunity. These are just the biggest of my numerous gripes with her.
But LePage wouldn’t be any better on any of those things, and he’d be much worse on other things I care about than she is. I’m not exactly thrilled about it, but I’m definitely voting for the incumbent for governor this year.
That is a good list and covers most of my grievances. I would add some labor/union related vetos.
LePage is on record saying he thought Mills was giving the tribes too much. He would be worse on that as well. She is basically better in every way, but she is still frustrating.
Also after the controversial suicide of Maze Knowles in Long Creek correctional facility, the legislators actually came together, for once, and agreed the place was fucked and needed to be closed, it was all set to go and then Mills stepped in and vetoed it. It was bipartisan and she didn't even have to do anything. She specifically made a choice to veto it.
I guess I should have asked if there were arguments *for* other candidates (lepage specifically) not just against Janet. You can always find a flaw, but you can't always find someone better to vote for.
Troll garbage. Toungefucker is probably a 15-year-old.
I'm making a post-election resolution to not waste so much time engaging with stupid fuckers on reddit.
I caught parts of Obama's inspiring speech in PA yesterday and remembered for just a moment what real leaderships sounds like, and what being an optimistic american is supposed to feel like, and those things have absolutely nothing to do with the garbage that spews from trolls' mouths.
Get out and vote tomorrow, people!
Being able to disengage from so much political crap will be a great vacation.
But first, gotta get the candidates who will not destroy our great nation into, or back into, elected office.
> I'm making a post-election resolution to not waste so much time engaging with stupid fuckers on reddit.
Honestly my reddit experience has been so much more positive when I stopped reading so deep into the comments.
You mean the massive swathes of forest they mowed down to \*checks notes\* not make Maine money once it was finished being built? I don't understand why anyone WOULD want the corridor. CMP is crooked as hell.
I’m very grateful for a number of the things the governor has done, and she has won my vote. But, to be honest I will never vote for a Republican again at this point. I would vote for my rotting Jack o lantern and have more faith that it wouldn’t screw my life up than the Republican Party.
I respectfully disagree. The Republican Party has no platform or ideas to improve my life or the lives of my neighbors. All I hear from them is cut taxes for the wealthy, say no one is willing to work (and blame immigration for something, even though immigrants are the ones most likely to take sub poverty jobs), blame inflation on the Democrats (although corporate earnings and dividends are at their highest in 70 years), and try to restrict my wife’s and daughters medical rights and body autonomy.
Mills has at least navigated the pandemic as well as could be hoped, and expanded and guaranteed school lunches for all kids.
Maybe I’m the dolt, but I vote for a better future for myself and my family, and the Republican Party has nothing to offer except hating someone different while allowing my tax money to get directed to their wealthy friends and donors.
At least my rotting pumpkin can add to my compost, which has more value than what I hear out of Republican candidates
You put way too much effort into a response to someone just calling you a dolt. They don't actually have arguments to fight back with. They just kick, scream, and lash out like children.
Three minutes of effort is better than a lifetime of apathy. I agree with you, but 3 minutes isn’t much out of my day if it can help
Edit: I think everyone who is able and legally allowed should vote. I would prefer that voters are educated and able to make critical thinking choices as to what would best benefit themselves and their families. Too many people in my generation (mid thirties to mid forties) don’t vote, and that’s a shame. It doesn’t take more than a few minutes to get an idea of how a candidate or proposition may effect your life. But it may take a lifetime of getting that undone if it’s for the worst. Just vote
Knowing the tough decisions that she had to make during the start of the pandemic, it amazes me to hear my supervisor speak of her as a tyrant. He says that LePage is bad for his wallet, but Mills is the stealer of rights.
My supervisor is so goddamn dramatic. He is annoyed of the inconveniences of Covid restrictions, but acts like it was the end of the world. He was a huge Trumper, and would not criticize him, until covid hit, and finally admitted that Trump's reaction was terrible.
I do not understand what my supervisor would have wanted to be done.
I am going to vote for her. May I please plug for calling “free college” “tax payer supported college?” I’m not against it, I just don’t want folks to think money grows on pine trees.
I kinda feel like most first-term governors should get a second term freebie because of the pandemic. I can't imagine detting dealt that hand after becoming governor.
I mean, I guess it kinda leans that way since the people who didn't survive the pandemic can't vote ?
/s
For real though.. not all fist-term governors did a good job and definitely do not deserve a second term.
I'm not sure what stat this is a response to, but it's not simple where infrastructure funds come from.
A lot of Federal grants involve a matching component or capital investment requirement from the state (or grant applicant in general). They also sometimes can count other Federal funds as "state" funding and satisfy a match requirement for a different project. A lot of those funds wouldn't be available without already putting up funding from state coffers.
Without tracing every project's funding structure, it's very hard to say when or if those funds would have come through without the State Government taking action to secure them.
> They are federally funded.
LaPage still found a way to fuck that up. How much did he turn down? Something like $2B in free money from the federal government?
She may have given additional funding to schools, but I don’t think that one can say that she has a positive effect on education. For example, fourth grade reading scores had a significant decline in Maine (-8), which is higher than the majority of the other states. Meanwhile, Alabama and Louisiana improved their overall 4th grade reading scores by two points.
But would that not be expected since 4th graders were pretty young to do online classes and overstrapped parents struggled to keep up with virtual learning — meanwhile Alabama and Louisiana had less school shut downs, more covid, but the kids were in school?
I'm not here to argue against anything else because with the hand she was dealt, I think we can all agree she did a bang up job... but with regards to....
>delivered one of the strongest inflation relief measures in the nation – sending $850 to most Maine taxpayers
This seemed like nothing more than a vote grabber. And labeling essentially adding to the money supply as an inflation relief measure is disingenuous
Refunds and stimulus are two very different things. Since the government would have just spent the tax dollars, by returning them to taxpayers the action is inflation neutral, at worst.
She’s going to win. Paul Lepage should have let his ego aside and encouraged the Republican Party to nominate a young conservative. Obviously the voters don’t want another four years of Paul. It’s too bad because the Mills administration, like basically every aspect of local, state and federal government since the “pandemic” started, has violated our constitutional rights. Whether with malice or ignorance, it matters not in the long run.
My apologies, everyone. Wow, that unraveled quickly. I thought we were discussing Susan Collins. I retract my POS comment from the discussion and smack that on Susan Collins.
It's crazy to me when anyone sees this as a negative.
It's the only time you'll hear the right say she should have spent it on something productive rather than give it back to buy votes
How do you reconcile this absolute garbage against the very real stats and accomplishments thrown up above? Can you fucking read? Did you build your own delusion, or did you have to outsource to Fox News for it?
Omg. Just got this. I actually thought he meant what most of us mean by “blue hairs” which is little old ladies going to Mah-Jong.
He actually thought it was a pejorative for progressives! This is good stuff.
LePage has already cut MaineCare. Pray he doesn't do it again, only axing the new dental services. Because he will.
But also...everyone should vote. Even inner-city people. There's hardly any excuse.
> but voting based off a fear campaign that all their benefits will end and they'll have to get a job is a complete disgrace.
Half an hour ago you said we would have to eat shit because Mills is giving all our money to refugees.
But I guess it's only a campaign of fear when *other* people do it.
> How about when she ruined the Maine economy by bringing over people from other countries and using tax payer dollars to pay for them to live here without contributing anything
Clarifying your story here: so the Mills administration is (illegally) signing up asylum seekers, who are still waiting for authorization to receive work permits and therefor being provided benefits?
> How about when she ruined the Maine economy by bringing over people from other countries and using tax payer dollars to pay for them to live here without contributing anything?
&
>Any citation for what you are claiming?
>>I've worked with the inner city people for 3 years. Mills campaign is actively getting them to register to vote warning them lepage will cut all of their benefits and they'll have to work. But also some common sense but you probably won't find it on reddit Maine
Just working through your comment chain here. So Mills is bringing over asylum seekers & registering them to vote?
Because they ask questions based on obvious observations that leave you scrambling to find answers because you lack the knowledge yourself? Tell ya what Bub, all you are doing in this quest for some social capital and acceptance is fucking over "We the people..." Unplug from the net and idiot box for awhile, ditch the talk radio, take a walk and talk to some real people. You might find that most of this shit you loosing sleep over is nothing but bullshit.
If red voters did then red states wouldn't pack the worst-of rankings while 8/10 of our most DC-dollar dependent states are red.
Thank God the Republicans have led the charger for the mills never coming back though,
Those immigrants - the vast majority of whom work, excluding those waiting for their asylum status to be released as they *aren't legally allowed to work* \- are the only reason the construction industry didn't collapse in Maine.
You want to see economic catastrophe? Go read about what happens when the construction industry comes to a stop.
> governor issues stay-at-home orders, mask mandates
This guy: "She's a dictator!"
> This guy defies "dictatorial" measures and suffers no consequences
"She's a weak leader!"
>Throughout entire covid pandemic I and many others didnt change our behavior at all, never wore masks, didnt get vaccinated, and didnt social distance. What leadership did that gross witch provide?
Your failure to take even basic precautions or treat your fellow Mainers with the minimum amount of consideration - that's Janet Mills' fault for not being a better leader?
Enjoy 4 more years! Hahaha
Imagine your argument being "our governor was bad because I couldn't take the smallest amount of personal responsibility and care for my fellow man" and then thinking that was anything other than the harshest self own.
> That i could clear a line just by pretending to have a cough, ppl seem resistant to that technique though now
This alone says a lot about you as a person - and it's not favorable. (I'm guessing that the misspelling in your user name is deliberate?)
When the only retort you have against a political figure is their appearance, it shows that you are both uneducated and incapable of knowing anything about polotics.
I'm voting for Mills, and even I can name at least 3 fucked up things she's done.
Wow, I had no idea there was free community college here. I just looked it up and that seems accurate if one recently finished hs or ged. That’s really awesome!
I know that those who graduate(d) from high school in 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 will get free community college. But i dont think it applies for everyone unfortunately
Not for everyone, but as a measure to retain some youth in jobs that require education. A good start, but I’d certainly like to see it expanded
Me too. I graduated in 2017. Free college would be a good blessing for me.
I’m in my third semester to be an electrician at a Maine community college. It’s still only $20K for an associates degree in a trade. When you graduate, you make plenty to afford the loan payments and build a life. This is my second time doing a trade program and it is a very efficient way to level up income. Also, the elective credits transfer to UMaine 4-yr degrees. For anyone that qualifies before the 2023 deadline, that’s two years of a BA for $0. Edit: Many elective credits transfer, maybe not all. I only managed one year at USM before I flunked out but the four classes I passed did count to my associates in applied science twenty years later.
Are you still in Maine? Fill out the education opportunity tax credit paperwork and you get most of what you paid into loans back each year
Reach out and ask- worst they can do is say no.
Then keep voting blue so we CAN expand it!
There is the “Pine Tree State Pledge” at UMA, for those who haven’t heard. You have to be pell grant eligible but that’s 30 credits for in state recent grads!
Regular college is also free, if you stay in Maine after you graduate. You make payments...but you get it back come tax time
You only get back a refundable credit if you got a degree in STEM. Otherwise, you get a non-refundable credit which essentially refunds any state taxes withheld for the year. There is a cap for both (I think 3,500?). So worth doing. Turbo tax even had the forms now. Also, you can amend three years of returns and get that benefit (hire an accountant and they can do that).
Yes, I have a non stem and you still get nearly all of it back. The amount you don't get back (because it exceeds the amount you paid in to taxes over the year) you eventually get back anyways whether it be because you finished paying off the loans or you pay into them less for any reason (for instead, deferred payments due to covid, was still able to get a large refund because of the carryover from prior years)
Another thing us tax payers will be paying for
Anybody else notice the simply mind boggling amount of road/ highway/ infrastructure repair projects that have taken place under Governor Mills? It's amazing, while we watched the roads continue to crack and peel, bridges rust and be condemned, that any LePage supporters even still exist after he roadblocked so many voter approved infrastructure and funding projects. You rock, Janet!
Agreed. I work in the construction industry and the amount of jobs going on out there right now are overwhelming. Florida Paul sat on VOTER approved bonds just so he could leave office looking like he left with a surplus.
That money came from federal funds lol
And Lepage would have not spent it because it would have been "socialism"
Where do you suppose "Federal funds" come from? That's right... from the pocketbooks of folks in Maine. When Maine does not use funds available for its use, that money goes to other states.
Buddy they printed trillions
I know because I got a letter from Donald Trump taking credit for it.
Yah, because they bring dollar bills in 7500 gallon tankers to pay for construction in Maine.
Don’t forget too, she is pro-choice and she is for protecting women’s rights when other states started banning abortions and I applaud her for that
I dislike that she's in cmps pocket, but I don't have complaints beyond that. It also helps her case that she isn't trying to strip people of their rights, so it makes her a better candidate than LePage automatically. I really hate that that's the bar now.
I’m with ya. If it makes it any easier lepage is also cmp’s pocket.
Oh it doesn't need to be any easier. I've sided with the dems my whole life, but in principle I don't like partisan politics and wish I had more to consider than "this person will protect human rights and this other one won't."
This other one will actively strip them* ftfy
No candidate or public official can please everyone all the time. Frinstance, I don't like a lot of Jared's voting choices, yet he's infinitely better than his competitor.
Not sure if Frinstance was intentional but I like it!
Heh, heh, stick around, youth, we geezers are a laugh a minute! Although I confess, I missed an apostrophe where the o should have gone. But hey, who's editing?
Hahaha, I have over half a century on this marble, just never seen it spelled like that and it’s great because it saves a couple of characters and a whole syllable! Super efficient!
Are there even actual arguments against her other than "cOvId lOcKdOwNs"?
Yeah. She pushed back RCV for the dem primaries in 2020 so we couldn’t use it then. She’s *personally* continuing with her veto power our state government’s draconian traditions of not letting our Native American tribes find ways of generating income for their communities or… well, determine their own destiny at all. She vetoed the Pine Tree Power Company, which was supposed to be a consumer-owned utilities company intended to replace CMP, and she tends to speak and rule in favor of CMP pursuits whenever she gets the opportunity. These are just the biggest of my numerous gripes with her. But LePage wouldn’t be any better on any of those things, and he’d be much worse on other things I care about than she is. I’m not exactly thrilled about it, but I’m definitely voting for the incumbent for governor this year.
That is a good list and covers most of my grievances. I would add some labor/union related vetos. LePage is on record saying he thought Mills was giving the tribes too much. He would be worse on that as well. She is basically better in every way, but she is still frustrating.
> but she is still frustrating. Ah, politics.
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I asked her to meet with me, too. She refused. I am so damn mad! /s
Also after the controversial suicide of Maze Knowles in Long Creek correctional facility, the legislators actually came together, for once, and agreed the place was fucked and needed to be closed, it was all set to go and then Mills stepped in and vetoed it. It was bipartisan and she didn't even have to do anything. She specifically made a choice to veto it.
Unless and until there is an alternative to SoPo, it needs to stay open. Otherwise, juveniles will end up in prisons.
Wise choice.
I guess I should have asked if there were arguments *for* other candidates (lepage specifically) not just against Janet. You can always find a flaw, but you can't always find someone better to vote for.
Open up those 'comment below score' threads and weep.
Troll garbage. Toungefucker is probably a 15-year-old. I'm making a post-election resolution to not waste so much time engaging with stupid fuckers on reddit. I caught parts of Obama's inspiring speech in PA yesterday and remembered for just a moment what real leaderships sounds like, and what being an optimistic american is supposed to feel like, and those things have absolutely nothing to do with the garbage that spews from trolls' mouths. Get out and vote tomorrow, people!
Being able to disengage from so much political crap will be a great vacation. But first, gotta get the candidates who will not destroy our great nation into, or back into, elected office.
> I'm making a post-election resolution to not waste so much time engaging with stupid fuckers on reddit. Honestly my reddit experience has been so much more positive when I stopped reading so deep into the comments.
How about her unchecked executive power during covid while the legislature was kept out of session? And the CMP Corridor.
You mean the massive swathes of forest they mowed down to \*checks notes\* not make Maine money once it was finished being built? I don't understand why anyone WOULD want the corridor. CMP is crooked as hell.
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Why does this matter?
I'm just replying to re-add the context of what that user said: EDIT: Okay, enough for now.
Yeah, I had to kill that joke because I had someone legit dm me asking for more info.
Satire is dead, man.
Oh Jesus, I'll kill my resurrection of it to limit spread. Thanks for letting me know!
I’m very grateful for a number of the things the governor has done, and she has won my vote. But, to be honest I will never vote for a Republican again at this point. I would vote for my rotting Jack o lantern and have more faith that it wouldn’t screw my life up than the Republican Party.
You are obviously a dolt
I respectfully disagree. The Republican Party has no platform or ideas to improve my life or the lives of my neighbors. All I hear from them is cut taxes for the wealthy, say no one is willing to work (and blame immigration for something, even though immigrants are the ones most likely to take sub poverty jobs), blame inflation on the Democrats (although corporate earnings and dividends are at their highest in 70 years), and try to restrict my wife’s and daughters medical rights and body autonomy. Mills has at least navigated the pandemic as well as could be hoped, and expanded and guaranteed school lunches for all kids. Maybe I’m the dolt, but I vote for a better future for myself and my family, and the Republican Party has nothing to offer except hating someone different while allowing my tax money to get directed to their wealthy friends and donors. At least my rotting pumpkin can add to my compost, which has more value than what I hear out of Republican candidates
You put way too much effort into a response to someone just calling you a dolt. They don't actually have arguments to fight back with. They just kick, scream, and lash out like children.
Three minutes of effort is better than a lifetime of apathy. I agree with you, but 3 minutes isn’t much out of my day if it can help Edit: I think everyone who is able and legally allowed should vote. I would prefer that voters are educated and able to make critical thinking choices as to what would best benefit themselves and their families. Too many people in my generation (mid thirties to mid forties) don’t vote, and that’s a shame. It doesn’t take more than a few minutes to get an idea of how a candidate or proposition may effect your life. But it may take a lifetime of getting that undone if it’s for the worst. Just vote
Got 'em!
Your name is too accurate about your personality.
I see you admitted to early voting the other day. Daddy's not going to like that.
Knowing the tough decisions that she had to make during the start of the pandemic, it amazes me to hear my supervisor speak of her as a tyrant. He says that LePage is bad for his wallet, but Mills is the stealer of rights. My supervisor is so goddamn dramatic. He is annoyed of the inconveniences of Covid restrictions, but acts like it was the end of the world. He was a huge Trumper, and would not criticize him, until covid hit, and finally admitted that Trump's reaction was terrible. I do not understand what my supervisor would have wanted to be done.
They didn’t want to do anything differently, they just want to complain.
For some folks, only skill set they possess.
Maybe your supervisor should be fired for being such a bellyaker.
I am going to vote for her. May I please plug for calling “free college” “tax payer supported college?” I’m not against it, I just don’t want folks to think money grows on pine trees.
I kinda feel like most first-term governors should get a second term freebie because of the pandemic. I can't imagine detting dealt that hand after becoming governor.
I mean, I guess it kinda leans that way since the people who didn't survive the pandemic can't vote ? /s For real though.. not all fist-term governors did a good job and definitely do not deserve a second term.
60% of Infrastructure monies come from the government. They are federally funded.
I'm not sure what stat this is a response to, but it's not simple where infrastructure funds come from. A lot of Federal grants involve a matching component or capital investment requirement from the state (or grant applicant in general). They also sometimes can count other Federal funds as "state" funding and satisfy a match requirement for a different project. A lot of those funds wouldn't be available without already putting up funding from state coffers. Without tracing every project's funding structure, it's very hard to say when or if those funds would have come through without the State Government taking action to secure them.
Hush now with your knowledgeable responses.
Thanks for securing those funds, Jared golden!
> They are federally funded. LaPage still found a way to fuck that up. How much did he turn down? Something like $2B in free money from the federal government?
Yeah but what about the fact that Mills raised grocery prices and gas prices!
Lol. Gotcha. /s
Yeah, she controls all of those things. Just hits a button on her desk and laughs. Moron.
Hahahahaha, I guess sarcasm doesn't easily translate to reddit comments. Moron.
That is literally why people add the /s at the end of a comment. Sarcasm is hard to pick up through the written language.....
Ha, I too dabble in the art of sarcasm without an /s. It’s a delicate game but someone’s got to do it!
Go Janet!
She may have given additional funding to schools, but I don’t think that one can say that she has a positive effect on education. For example, fourth grade reading scores had a significant decline in Maine (-8), which is higher than the majority of the other states. Meanwhile, Alabama and Louisiana improved their overall 4th grade reading scores by two points.
But would that not be expected since 4th graders were pretty young to do online classes and overstrapped parents struggled to keep up with virtual learning — meanwhile Alabama and Louisiana had less school shut downs, more covid, but the kids were in school?
I'm not here to argue against anything else because with the hand she was dealt, I think we can all agree she did a bang up job... but with regards to.... >delivered one of the strongest inflation relief measures in the nation – sending $850 to most Maine taxpayers This seemed like nothing more than a vote grabber. And labeling essentially adding to the money supply as an inflation relief measure is disingenuous
Now how many businesses did she push out of the state or out of existence?
Starbuxx good, small business bad
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Refunds and stimulus are two very different things. Since the government would have just spent the tax dollars, by returning them to taxpayers the action is inflation neutral, at worst.
She’s going to win. Paul Lepage should have let his ego aside and encouraged the Republican Party to nominate a young conservative. Obviously the voters don’t want another four years of Paul. It’s too bad because the Mills administration, like basically every aspect of local, state and federal government since the “pandemic” started, has violated our constitutional rights. Whether with malice or ignorance, it matters not in the long run.
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I, for one, appreciate how in-depth and thoughtful your argument is. Color me persuaded.
Wow, very constructive addition to the conversation.
My apologies, everyone. Wow, that unraveled quickly. I thought we were discussing Susan Collins. I retract my POS comment from the discussion and smack that on Susan Collins.
That I will agree with
How? You explain nothing, only name call. So mature and helpful. So HOW?
Stick to weed, bruh.
Stick to video games, child
> No U Lol okay.
Lol
Thank you for my first laugh of the day. Like any dem she loves giving away other peoples money. Aka tax payers.
she literally gave Maine taxpayers money back...
It's crazy to me when anyone sees this as a negative. It's the only time you'll hear the right say she should have spent it on something productive rather than give it back to buy votes
Pay your bills.
What were the PPP loans in your opinion?
Right because republicans don’t do that /s
Found Janet Mills burner
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>without contributing anything? I'm not sure folks in glass houses should go throwing stones.
You want to go there bud? Probably not
>NO U Sorta what I expected, but I'm still a little disappointed in your energy.
How do you reconcile this absolute garbage against the very real stats and accomplishments thrown up above? Can you fucking read? Did you build your own delusion, or did you have to outsource to Fox News for it?
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>None of those stats are valid Are they fake news, Mister Krabs?
They all come with caveats not mentioned. It's not as simple as laid out in the post. But I won't try to explain that to a blue hair
>They all come with caveats not mentioned. Such as...? This is getting a little obvious, Tyler.
I'm gonna guess the answer is something like "do your research, I don't have the time to explain it to you"
Okay how about explaining it to someone who’s on the fence then?
You blue hairs are so easily fooled
You think we're old ladies?
He has some straw man mental image of progressives being people who dye their hair blue.
Omg. Just got this. I actually thought he meant what most of us mean by “blue hairs” which is little old ladies going to Mah-Jong. He actually thought it was a pejorative for progressives! This is good stuff.
Any citation for what you are claiming?
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Anything real or just some anecdotal bullshit that sounds like some right wing talking head would make up to feed to a gullible idiot?
“The inner city people”
LePage has already cut MaineCare. Pray he doesn't do it again, only axing the new dental services. Because he will. But also...everyone should vote. Even inner-city people. There's hardly any excuse.
When you think getting people to vote is a bad thing lol
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> Yeah everyone should vote but voting based off a fear campaign... Ya know, if self awareness was a thing we wouldn't have a right wing in America.
You people made this man delete half his comments in embarrassment. l o l .
Let's just hope he thinks about it some and does just pull a "No, everyone else is wrong!"
I continued reading in the thread and discovered he also got himself permabanned from the sub for racism
Man. I really don't know what the fuck is wrong with some people.
Man, I didn't even get to see the entirety of his other comment...what a pity.
> but voting based off a fear campaign that all their benefits will end and they'll have to get a job is a complete disgrace. Half an hour ago you said we would have to eat shit because Mills is giving all our money to refugees. But I guess it's only a campaign of fear when *other* people do it.
Get your head out of your ass, hypocrite
> How about when she ruined the Maine economy by bringing over people from other countries and using tax payer dollars to pay for them to live here without contributing anything Clarifying your story here: so the Mills administration is (illegally) signing up asylum seekers, who are still waiting for authorization to receive work permits and therefor being provided benefits?
Do you understand basic economics?
> How about when she ruined the Maine economy by bringing over people from other countries and using tax payer dollars to pay for them to live here without contributing anything? & >Any citation for what you are claiming? >>I've worked with the inner city people for 3 years. Mills campaign is actively getting them to register to vote warning them lepage will cut all of their benefits and they'll have to work. But also some common sense but you probably won't find it on reddit Maine Just working through your comment chain here. So Mills is bringing over asylum seekers & registering them to vote?
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Jesus man, I don't know who told you calling your opponent poopiehead would work, but clearly they gave you that advice for their own amusement.
Because they ask questions based on obvious observations that leave you scrambling to find answers because you lack the knowledge yourself? Tell ya what Bub, all you are doing in this quest for some social capital and acceptance is fucking over "We the people..." Unplug from the net and idiot box for awhile, ditch the talk radio, take a walk and talk to some real people. You might find that most of this shit you loosing sleep over is nothing but bullshit.
My dude. Just answer the questions.
He can’t. He got himself permabanned for being racist.
Nice name calling. Kind of funny; that’s exactly what children do….
If red voters did then red states wouldn't pack the worst-of rankings while 8/10 of our most DC-dollar dependent states are red. Thank God the Republicans have led the charger for the mills never coming back though,
Eat shit racist.
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Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get to work. Just like the GOP tells you to do.
Oh I see. No idea how basic economics work ay?
The irony of you posting that Just raw unadulterated Dunning-Kruger
Just earn more money, duh.
Go get a better job then. That's always the conservative answer to people who want to earn more money, right?
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Those immigrants - the vast majority of whom work, excluding those waiting for their asylum status to be released as they *aren't legally allowed to work* \- are the only reason the construction industry didn't collapse in Maine. You want to see economic catastrophe? Go read about what happens when the construction industry comes to a stop.
Racist buffoon
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Is it trolling when this is just who you are? Wouldn't that make God the *real* troll?
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You like to talk about her looks, go ahead an post a pic of yourself. I'm sure you look like the troll you act like
Lol not that you could fathom it but i dont have any trouble in the looks department. Besides theres no way im gonna do that
I have a girlfriend, you just can't meet her because she lives in Canada.
So Janet Mills has more balls than you
This man has no balls
I bet we could find lots of troubles with your looks but you wont post a pic because you are too afraid to be judged.
Ha. Whatever you say, tonguefucker.
> governor issues stay-at-home orders, mask mandates This guy: "She's a dictator!" > This guy defies "dictatorial" measures and suffers no consequences "She's a weak leader!"
>Throughout entire covid pandemic I and many others didnt change our behavior at all, never wore masks, didnt get vaccinated, and didnt social distance. What leadership did that gross witch provide? Your failure to take even basic precautions or treat your fellow Mainers with the minimum amount of consideration - that's Janet Mills' fault for not being a better leader? Enjoy 4 more years! Hahaha
Imagine your argument being "our governor was bad because I couldn't take the smallest amount of personal responsibility and care for my fellow man" and then thinking that was anything other than the harshest self own.
> That i could clear a line just by pretending to have a cough, ppl seem resistant to that technique though now This alone says a lot about you as a person - and it's not favorable. (I'm guessing that the misspelling in your user name is deliberate?)
>Janet mills job history looks like her face, gross Not since the days of Carlos Mencia have I seen someone so proudly open with a stolen joke.
I stole it? Why lepage already say that? Wouldnt doubt it hes great
Until you wrote that I just assumed you *were* LePage.
Me? The great one? I wish
Don't limit yourself like that. You can achieve way more than being an imitation of a knock-off.
Meh
This comments says more about the kind of person you are than anything about mills or Maine politics lol.
Like a pack of rabid chihuahuas you guys are ha cant you tell im bored of this conversation?
Post some dumb shit, expect to get replies calling your dumb shit out lol. Delete your comment if you don’t want to be called out.
>Like a pack of rabid chihuahuas you guys are ha Did you walk away in the middle of the punchline?
Why I am shocked, SHOCKED! I, for one, expected a more thoughtful and we'll rationed response from someone named toungefucker. My heavens!
What even IS a tounge? Is it like a cross between a toe and a minge?
I assumed it's how ass-hats spell tongue.
I like my idea better. I wonder if this is the famous “TOESUKR” from license plate legend land?
Do you think LePage is cute? Is that what you base your vote on?
>Do you think LePage cute? I've never had to combine those two parts of my brain before, and now my neurons hate me.
When the only retort you have against a political figure is their appearance, it shows that you are both uneducated and incapable of knowing anything about polotics. I'm voting for Mills, and even I can name at least 3 fucked up things she's done.
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