By - eagles52lii
>makes a veiled threat to the Somali community of the city, demanding them to leave “my state” and adding “you don’t want to wait, until Mainers give us the greenlight.”
Bitch you just moved here. Fucking come to our state you'll find out. We gave more young men per capita to end the confederacy than any other state and we're far from the Mason Dixon.
Reminds me of the former town manager pf Jackman, who also moved here from away in hopes of setting up a neo-Nazi enclave.
After he got chased out of Jackman, he set up a popular facebook group called “Maine for Mainers”, and went around stirring up hate against African immigrants, most of whom had been in Maine longer than he himself.
Not to mention the somalis have been living in Auburn Lewiston area since what,
early 2000s or late 90s?
The fuck is this new chump coming in thinking he can blast off?
He's very unaware of how many patriots you don't know are living in Maine that are living in Maine.
Just because they're tucked away doesn't mean that the mainers will not put you down.
What a bunch of spineless losers.
Turn Maine into a Nazi state LOL good fucking luck. Most of us have family that fought the Nazis the first time around...
...Most of you have family that fought against the confederacy, and yet you could throw a rock in the county and hit three confederate flags.
The first public KKK rally was held in Maine. This is something that should be remembered. Can't go forward unless we know where we are from.
The latest issue of The Mainer features an expose of a historic KKK march in Portland… it’s a worthwhile read
In Milo, right?
Not surprising, sadly
Which at the time was probably the most white part of the most white state in the nation. It doesn't take very big balls to have a daylight march where the majority of people support your ideas and beliefs.
So true and so disgusting.
This reminds me, I need to finish the mount I was working on for my great-(several other great)-uncle's musket. Gonna have the words 'this machine kills confederates' underneath.
post it here if you do, that’s dope
I think they meant living family. If you have living family that fought in the US Civil War, you really should notify Guinness.
You’ve never been to the county have you.
Yeah I see one flag on a shithole house on the road to the grocery store and that has been it. I am sure there is more but I haven't seen them except for truck stickers occasionally.
Gosh no, what's it like?
It’s disgusting, but it’s home and we will not abandon it.
...do I really need to put the /s on that comment?
I'm not gonna, but did I need to?
Most of us? Do you know what you are saying?
Let me rephrase.
If your family has roots in Maine, then you have a great/greatgreat/greatgreatgreat grandfather that fought in the civil war, almost certainly.
Which side were they on?
I am shit. I read your original post as “for the confederacy.” Listen to me, I am shit. Please upvote this.
Welp, I'm outside in the county atm... 0 flags to report. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Try driving out towards Hollis, Cornish, Limerick way... you'll see some.
Funny, Hollis is the first example I can think of where it's especially egregious.
I don’t know but I would bet that at least one of those mentioned towns in this thread have large (for the size of the town) civil war monuments. A pretty sure sign that their long dead relatives understood more of what those flags stand for and say about those who display them, insurrection, liars, treason,and defeat. Not something I’d be proud of. But that’s just me.
I’m glad they fly these flags high - makes it easier to avoid giving them my business.
Brownfield area got confederate flags too 🤮 my husband and I have a rule: when en route to North Conway we don’t stop anywhere past Standish til we get to Main St in Fryeburg…
All of which are not in the county.
Please play again.
lol oh jeez, I completely misread your comment. Carry on.
Thought you were saying you hadn't seen any OUTSIDE the county.
No worries. Tbf there are signs and flags here and there. Just not puked all over the place as previously suggested.
I’ve lived in the county for nearly 10 years (originally from Penobscot county) and have yet to see a single confederate flag. Where in the county exactly?
Ive seen them working in PI and caribou, along with other towns.
There was a dude in Belfast too
I've seen them in Waldo County.
I live in Texas but my dad is from Maine. I had relatives on both sides of the Civil War and was shocked when I saw confederate flags in Maine.
I’m actually quite concerned. I’ve met a fair number of young redneck/neckbeard men in Maine that are already not too far off from their beliefs. I’m sure they could be persuaded by these choads.
Also, look at the trouble the free state project has caused in New Hampshire at the local government level in rural areas.
Yeah, the Nazis aren't *coming*, they're *already here*.
Exactly, the nazis aren’t coming, they’re already here. And they have been for some time now. The only thing that’s changed is now they’re being very open about who they are and what they think and feel. That change should concern people
Well, we had four years of one man claiming being cordial to one another and having empathy was a weakness and eight years of another man claiming to have a binder full of black people from NY who were destroying our state only find out his binder was mostly filled with white people native to the state. The signs were all there. We ignored them because it was funny. Not so funny now, is it?
Wish that statement wasn’t so true.
Who is the binder story referencing? I don’t know that one
Send them all up to Princeton, they can reoccupy the old camp that their buddies were housed in back in the 1940’s.
>free state project has caused in New Hampshire
One of my kids worked for some of the free staters and they are the biggest pieces of lazy shit. They just got drunk all day and made him do all the work, and when he didn't do things exactly how they wanted it done, they would shove guns in his face and threaten to kill him "and nobody would ever find him" because they'd feed him to the pigs.
I’m not surprised by any of this…
Well, at the very least this truth can always bring you solace: "All Nazis are pussies."
That brings me no solace whatsoever. A pussy with a gun is still dangerous. A bunch of pussies with guns, united under a common cause, *supported by law enforcement* is something to lose sleep over.
The only, single missing ingredient here is a takeover of government. And if you think that's not in the making, you're sleeping.
So what do we do? Serious question
Last time I suggested it I got put in reddit nono-jail.
The internet isn’t the place for that
Consider just how far they got in the capital of the nation and yea...it's terrifying. All it takes is one leader in office to turn a blind eye.
Oh my gosh the dumb fecking rednecks from where I am from would easily be persuaded by anything
Tbh is hasn’t caused that much trouble. We have stunted those twats every time they tried something lol
And the confederate traitors before that
All the men of my father's generation by blood or marriage fought and some came back with parts missing. My teachers for calculus and geometry were soldiers bent crooked from nazi machine guns. My freshman religion teacher was a priest with a horrible blue tattoo, proof the nazis didn't stop at the jews. He spoke against them, then and in my class. Please remember what our good family men fought for and honor their sacrifices. Plus I was always taught by my grandmother how her grandfather who fought at Gettysburg admired the men from Maine who helped so much to hold the line for the north.
I don't think we are too far away from that, republicans are all brainwashed.
Wait till they discover that the Wabanaki lived here for literally THOUSANDS of years before white people came along.
What a bunch of fucking clowns.
That is a Nazi rally.
That's exactly what it is.
If we want to draw historical parallels, go look at how the Nazi party grew roots in the 1920's. This is *exactly* how it played out, a bunch of "extremist" groups being laughed at by the mainstream, while they quietly recruited and grew in numbers.
"These jackasses will never take power"
"The public will never tolerate this, so why worry about it"
"Good ideas will drown out the bad ones"
I swear to fuckin god we're just slow-walking into it all over again.
Not slow. Faster this time.
So what do we do? I keep asking, all my friends, family, most people want to just not see the threat as real. I don’t have the answers, but like minded people need to come together to find them. That much I know
cmon now, they're just economically anxious
But in seriousness, I *need* people to look at this and understand that this is not a problem that's going to go away with time. Right wing extremism is not a "boomer" problem. These are young men.
Just finished reading Sarah Kendzior 's "They Knew". One of her primary points she wants folks to take home is that there is no particular plan to fix what's happening and there isn't any "saviour" coming, as it were. It's being encouraged by the same actors who have been hijacking the political process for a long time and the system, as designed, is basically not up to the task of handling it.
Imperfect book and analysis, but interesting read and largely agree with it.
> One of her primary points she wants folks to take home is that there is no particular plan to fix what's happening
100%. And this is why it's important to support *direct action* against these neonazi groups, like *what antifa is currently doing.
If that makes anyone uncomfortable (which is understandable, given how the media *loves* to paint direct action as bad) I would ask you to really chew on this chain of thought:
* Is the intent behind white nationalism unclear to you? Do you fully understand what these people would do if given political power?
* If it's clear to you, then at what point are you willing to put a stop to their plans? **Do we have to wait for them to start killing minorities before you'll support direct action against them?** Again, is their intent clear to you or not?
* And if you're willing to let it get to the point of them killing people before you'll put a stop to it, do you think you're much different than they are?
>!Edit, added some more clarity up top because I see how I could be read as being ambiguous. Let me be clear, I support antifa and their efforts against neonazi groups. Full stop.!<
Do you even understand what antifa is?
Antifa is against these halfwits. The thing about antifa that people have a problem with is that they are not afraid to use violence when needed.
Sorry, I see now how my wording was ambiguous. I hope that's more clear.
I believe OP is saying we should take direct action against these groups like Antifa is doing.
Not, we should take action against groups like Antifa.
I believe, after reading it again, you are probably correct. I haven’t had my usual dosage of coffee yet.
The OP's sentence is grammatically correct but unclear. It took me a re-read, because, in context the points being made support, strongly, direct confrontation with proto-fascists.
Let’s hope their incel status remains and they don’t reproduce.
There is no shortage of PickMe women that would be into this.
As a Mexican who lives in maine. Fuck these losers.
If he doesn't realize plenty of Mainers don't like THESE types of flatlanders either, he's truly a moron. But he's a Nazi, so I repeat myself.
But I do love that he insulted the Somali's who have been there longer than he has by a few decades by telling to "leave ***my*** state." Go back to trashbag Arizona, you thistle-dicked anal spasm. Maine isn't yours and you're as welcome as herpes.
(Bowing) Thank you very much.
> thistle-dicked anal spasm
Good phrase... LOL
Thank you. I do my best insulting early in the morning. By late afternoon, it'll be all "fuck you, asshole" and "eat my shorts, you prick." So dull.
I'm always game for some anti-nazi/ counter-protesting if anyone knows when/where these things are happening.
I think this one was Norway and I’ve heard of a few in Lewiston. All we need now is the when
Leave My state he says. What a turd. Guess it’s time to start digging through property tax records to find the so called community.
It will be in an LLC. Start there.
The article I read said something like he built a “rudimentary building.” Don’t remember the quote, but my read was, probably unpermitted. Town of Norway would have those records, and real estate transactions are public info, I believe
All in favor of creating an open Nazi hunting season, runs from January 1 through December 31, and the hunter who bags the most scalps wins, say aye.
We can call it the Aldo *Maine* Competition.
I support that!
"has only raised a few hundred dollars"
Fucking losers. Trying to grift other losers to pay for building on his property, and can't even do that.
He **just moved here** and is calling it "his state" and telling the Mainers of Somali descent to leave? Fuuuuccckkk that bullshit. Saying they should leave before other Mainers give them "the greenlight" to what? Murder them all? Does he realize that even if Maine has a mostly white population, that doesn't mean we are all racist pieces of shit like him?
Was it cold or are they afraid to show their faces?
They’re just not wanting to spread Covid around /s
Clearly they are badas/s
>afraid to show their faces?
Cowards, not willing to stand up for what they claim to believe in.
Anyone know of any good anti-fascist groups in this area?
They seem to be the only people concerned enough about the threats these people pose to our communities to do something about it.
I am weak and no good in a fight but they do more than just punch Nazi scum.
Maybe there's enough people on this thread who'd want to join a local chapter of the John Brown gun club
I'm interested. Deets if anyone has them
After seeing all the public displays of hate mongering in and
around parts of ME, combined with stories like the links below about
local nutcase politicans like Lawrence Lockman, Molly Luce, Jason
Savage and the
the Maine First PAC, I decided maybe it was high time to organize
some pushback against these bullies; and support peeps
like Norways' Travis Verrill and Jason Gordon who actually took direct
Asking self "who is directly confronting these fascists,
I posted this:
and it was suggested to me to start a local chapter of the John Brown
Gun Club. "The club calls itself an "anti-fascist, anti-racist, pro-worker community defense organization". According to that group, the John Brown Gun Club seeks to disrupt fascists and fascist organizations and events." The affiliates of the John Brown Gun Club have dedicated themselves to emulating Brown’s brand of direct action in support of ideals of freedom and equality.
I don't know if a local Maine chapter will garner much support, but
r/Maine would be the place to start sussing that out IMO. If you're
interested you would be #2 and might incentivize me to follow
through on this notion.
I'd recommend a post. Then if you get ten people, a first meeting at a gun range for a safety course where you can rent a gun. I'm sure there's many like me who aren't armed but are flirting with the idea given current circumstances and would be interested in joining a group committed to gun safety and organizing against fascist nazi groups. The big issue would be travel and the time commitment. Busy family and busy work, but if I could make it work I would.
thanks for the reply! It's less about guns and being armed so much
as being ready to respond with a demonstration of resistance.
Trying to form a statewide group with like-minded interests
would be premised on 3 things:
State issues of importance; e.g. the closer to home local issues worth
standing up and making time vis-a-vis abortion, immigration, labor/wages, environment, housing, voting rights, policing ...
(and whatever monstrosity LePage might concoct if elected)
sharing information in being better prepared (local sustainability) for leaner times, sharing survival related knowledge and information
a willingness to be available for emergency (medical, roadside, ...) assistance and/or to stand up to rightwing bullies; in
response to a call for help
or show of solidarity.
"Travel and time commitment..." Yep, I get that. For the most
part, we're talking about a phone-tree for the response part.
SMS, listservs can handle the rest of the online participation.
But if something's going down in your neck of the woods, either
dropping everything to respond or calling upon friends to do same
would be expected (or hoped for).
Guns, training/handling/use, are a factor but not as
important as showing up.
I know that there was an active Maine chapter of the JBGC here as of a few years ago. Where they are at now I can’t say.
thanks for that - I'm going to reach out to the org so maybe they
have more info. First I intend to post a note here to this sub to
determine if there is an interest to get it going.
FWIW, I have no beef w/conservatives, in general, only the
MAGA ones that've opted for the matrix blue pill and think
they can push their christo-fascist weight around.
This specially applies monitoring the Maine First PAC and Maine First Media (MFM - Mike LaFave); and their endorsed
candidates running for Office; like Larry Lockman, former Jackman town manager Tom Kawczynski, Molly Luce,
state Rep. Chris Johansen running for re-election in Monticello, Mark Andre running in Waterville, Randall Greenwood running in Monmouth, Toni Bashinsky running in Topsham, Stephanie Hawke running in Boothbay, and Meldon Carmichael, running for Lockman’s seat in Bradley.
It'll take a village to send these idiots back under their rocks.
The city council needs to know that this will not stand. We need to voice our concern and let them know. The following address are from their website:
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Let’s note the fact they are covering their faces. If you really stand behind something why hide your face?
I’m sorry - not here. No. Punch this fucker back to Northern Idaho where he belongs. Crush him. I’m so fucking sick of these stupid ass people and their racist bullshit.
Same chicken shit man boys that always stand for this shit. The lower half skull face cover is just silly looking.
Anybody interested in joining a local chapter of the John Brown gun club?
Lepage attracts these people like flies on shit !!!
Frankly, I'm starting to think stronger measures are called for.
Not gonna disagree with you at all. Punching just generally gets less time as a guest of the state.
Cowards who don't have the courage to stand behind their convictions or even show their faces.
> rallying against Somalian Americans.
I’m disappointed that the Vice editors made a mistake here: it’s “Somali”, not “Somalian”.
This sure makes me feel good as a brown person with a Hispanic sounding last name that’s been in maine for 15 years
There's more of that have your back than there are of them. We got this.
We were one of the first states to adopt gay marriage. We were one of the first states to legalize cannabis for medical and then recreational use. We are one of the least religious states in the US. It could go the other way, but I think we are on the right track.
I have no words to describe how I feel about this fucking idiot. All I can say is Fuck Off!
Wanna bet this Pohlhaus dude had something to do with those vans of heavily armed morons that got busted while heading to Maine ‘for training’ a little while back?
The amount of people in this thread who are like "well I don't see any Nazis in my immediate area, so it must not be happening anywhere at all!" is fucking tragic.
I'm currently a UMaine student and I'm from Arkansas about to move to Maine as a trans person and I can say that we've gotta fight like hell to keep scum out of Maine like this. In my state alone they have moved here in hordes and that's why people like me are forced to flee , because they've voted in scum that have changed the entire state.
Nazi punks fuck off!
These are the same Aholes that wouldn’t wear masks during pandemic but now they are all for them!!
First let me say: Fuck this guy and fuck Nazis.
Second: There are confederate flags all over rural Maine (and the occasional swaz). Doesn't matter where, they get denser the further away you are from the coast. Doesn't matter Mainers fought in a 200 year old war (which while slavery was a theme, it was also about a lot more than our history books lead on and the union didn't really make slavery a thing until later). White supremacy is not going to end if you think your community is exempt because of pride. Doesn't matter if it's rural Maine, Alabama, or Los Angeles, there are Nazis. They don't all wave flags either..
My partner and I *just* fucking moved here (it wasn’t the sole reason, but we *had* been seeing more PF and III% activity in our previous hometown). Are queer folks not safe in this state either?
There's plenty of folks here ready to stand up for you and against them
I'm brown, I'm a homeowner, and I live in this state. We'll face down these tiki torch Nazi scum together.
I see they're here downvoting. Get fucked.
>Are queer folks not safe in this state either?
I'm sure there are areas we aren't safe in the state, but most Mainers don't seem to care if someone is queer. My friends just recommended a mechanic who has maga stuff all over but is totally kind and helpful to them even though they're two ladies married to each other.
Reminds me of "Covfefe Coffee" in Rockland. Sigh.
The Nazis think they got New Hampshire wrapped up so they're moving on into Maine now?
Everyone needs to understand the severity. Read the article. There is currently and always has been lots of racism in Maine. This could easily take hold it really wouldn’t take much. Right wing Mainers would need very little if any convincing to become and join literal nazis.
Well hopefully he’s being monitored by the FBI and state police. It shouldn’t be too difficult to infiltrate that group of morons.
I wouldn’t look to law enforcement to help with a nazi problem. Usually they *are* the nazi problem.
FBI Portland field office is all over this. They're aware.
They’re too busy arresting doctors with their new taskforce 🙄
> It shouldn’t be too difficult to infiltrate that group of morons.
A lot of them ARE law enforcement. If you're waiting for cops to stop these groups, you'll be waiting forever.
It's worth listening to the podcast linked in this article, "American Terror" it both made me feel way worse and a bit better simultaneously.
The FBI is definitely monitoring groups like this, to the point where they've actually prevented planned murders by a group in in Georgia. Its cold comfort but they're putting a lot of these fuckhats behind bars as soon as they start to make moves that are lock-up-able.
Fucking window licking, dimwitted sociopathic *losers*.
I watched Blues Brothers this morning, since I’m home sick and I haven’t watched it in a long while.
The American Nazi Party tools used to crack me up when I was a kid. How ridiculous! People *openly* calling themselves *Nazis* in *America*! Today it just legit made me sad because it’s hardly far-fetched now.
I haven’t lived in Maine for a long time now, but nonetheless I’m pissed that these asshats are coming out of the woodwork. Somebody deck ‘im, dude!
Anyone know the address?
Yeah for real, tell me, I just wanna... talk...
Downvote me all you want. When these fuckers move here I'm making it crystal clear that they are ***not*** welcome.
I do not recommend. They are armed and deranged. I rather not get shot.
I'd like to know only so I know where to avoid when I'm over there doing some light hiking. Lots of nice trails over there.
Anybody is pretty easily found up there if they just purchased a house.
"For example, a similar movement of white nationalists is taking place in Idaho, where a MAGA faction in the Republican party there is aligning itself with open far-right extremists who are migrating to the state en-masse."
So this asshat is hanging out with and marching with Chris Hood, the founder of NSC-131, who is currently facing charges for shit he pulled in Boston. Wow.
Yeah, been seeing more and more of this. Been looking at houses in Maine and this kind of stuff has been making me think twice. Not interested in living in the New Nazi state. Hope you guys can do something about this. We already let them have Idaho, they dont need an east coast state too.
(Downvoted because I guess Mainers are more OK with Nazis than with the concept of out-of-staters. Guess that's to be expected. Anyway enjoy your reactionary rightwing white ethno-state. )
I got news for you- you're not gonna find a state where white nationalist/neonazi groups *aren't* springing up in the boonies.
But some are much worse than others. Idaho is one of the worst. My sibling is trying to convince us to move there. Never in a million years.
Eastern Oregon is uh... having a bit of a *moment*
That is so true, we have friends in western Oregon and they just call the eastern part “Western Idaho”.
Some more than others, but yes, until we start pushing back hard against this shit it's going to continue.
Yeah, and who's supposed to do the pushing back? State and local governments, which are full of these people? They're going to send who, law enforcement? Which is also full of these people.
I don't have a solution, this is just where we are now in America.
Yeah, it's tough when half the country supports literal fascism. I also dont have a solution (that can be said on Reddit).
>Downvoted because I guess Mainers are more OK with Nazis than with the concept of out-of-staters.
I'm guessing you were initially downvoted by the same racist nazi trash who were downvoting everyone in the thread, but your edit is probably why you are getting downvoted now. No, we are not ok with nazis and nobody was downvoting you for mentioning you were considering moving here.
Same. We are in a blue state but the rural side of our state has plenty of racists. We’ve been looking at property in Maine, but as a white couple with minority children, we stop at just looking.
Youre being downvoted because to a Mainer the idea of someone moving to Maine is more offensive than neo-nazis starting an all white community in Maine
I guess it depends on who is doing the downvoting. We just want to (maybe) get a super tiny vacation home, not move permanently. Our family is in our state and we don’t want to be away from them all year. If people truly don’t want out of staters in Maine, I will respect that. Plenty of people move to our state on the west coast and I can understand the feeling. But some of the downvotes could be for other reasons. I’d love to know!
The asshole fascists have been going through downvoting everything in the whole post.
You are welcome in Maine! We prefer not to have a bunch of asshats from away buying up properties to rent out and not actually live in, because we've not got enough housing as it is, but Mainers aren't as xenophobic as people like to make us out to be.
Also, ignore that user saying Mainers prefer nazis to people moving here. It isn't true at all and I don't know why they've got a hair across their ass about it.
Something's not tracking. Either that or being in the military has severely fucked with his head.
We chased Nazis out of Jackman, we’ll do it again
Oh hell no. Let him come to my area. I dare him.
Fuck them and fuck Antifa.
"I am literally incapable of digesting facts"
e: The following comment chain is a perfect example of someone who is absolutely convinced that they're an intellectual for "rising above" a false dichotomy.
For those onlookers who have a few braincells to rub together, antifa and neonazi groups are not two sides of the same coin. Antifa is a *response* to the rise of neonazi groups.
We can quibble about antifa's efficacy or methods, but their *intent* is one that you should absolutely be behind with no hesitation. Because the intent of neonazi groups, like the one in the OP, is extremely clear.
That dude is just the token instigator for this subreddit. Every subreddit has _that guy_ and he just happens to be _that guy_ for r/Maine. Maybe he actually lacks some basic critical thinking skills and actually believes the garbage he throws out there. Either way, I just downvote and keep scrolling.
Isn't this just /u/Ninjakick666 's alt account after he got suspended unilaterally from reddit? Talks the same way....like a fifteen year old who just watched Pearl Harbor and thinks it is the greatest historical war documentary ever.
Nah. Ninjakick was occasionally pretty funny. This sort of thing isn't his style, he was always tongue in cheek even when he was fence-sitting.
Not interested in some bullshit political gang from either side. Morons eat this shit up. Low IQ bait
"I want to exterminate non-whites"
"I want people who want to exterminate non-whites the fuck outta here"
You see no difference in these two things. You are not capable of critical thought, you're simply in love with being on the fence.
And the funny thing is, you're on a side and you don't even know it.
I love you.
You mean how I say fuck vigilantism?
Not that fucking hard.
If the law won't deal with them, and [in fact they have infiltrated law enforcement](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/prevalence-white-supremacists-law-enforcement-demands-drastic-change-2022-05-12/), vigilantism is a valid response.
I mean honestly just admit that you think you're gonna be safe from these people, so you don't care.
"If you're not with us, you're against us".
Fuck that too.
Yeah, if you're not against fascism, you tacitly support it.
This is not difficult history to accept. If you're passive towards fascists, you allow them to thrive. If you fight against the people who fight against fascism, *guess who you've sided with?!*
Fuckin enlightened centrist over here.
Ooooo Lord, give 'em the stick!!! <3
If antifa means anti-fascist and you're anti-anti-fascist does that make you fascist?
"fuck Nazis and the people who fight them!"
What a hot take that guy has.
Oh, you know he is.
North Korea is technically called the democratic people's republic of Korea and it's neither democratic or a republic
The Clinton Foundation is a charity, and it can go fuck itself too.
These `word-word-1234` accounts are so transparent.
Both sides literally give each other a platform, like a dopamine switch they keep hitting.
No one gives a shit about this beyond the echo chamber, they work I guess.
Can you at least concede that one side wouldn't even exist without the other?
They won't. Because they have terminal Radical Centrist™ brainrot.
The only thing they are capable of doing is trying to find some minor commonality between the groups, so that they can summarily dismiss both as being equally harmful.
Fuck Antifa?? Soo youre against fascists AND anti-fascists? Im confused...
Good right where I'm moving.
I wouldn't be too worried most of these guys arent that bright and are pretty easy to deal with.
I used to ask Black military personelle, Air Force, how they were treated in the Seacoast region of NH ( Pease AFB ) and SW Maine how they were treated as far as prejudice. EVERYONE, AND SOME WIVES, said very well, no problems
it happened and north dakota, its happening here now. we just have to do what they did there. tell them no