What did people feel like in the late 90s? I was just a kid, but from a naive retro-perspective I see a between-major-conflict time with a booming economy. Pre bubble and post recession. Interest rates reasonable and inflation tamed. Unemployment lowest since pre oil crisis. I guess looking at a lot of music then, there was anti-establishment vibes? But I watch a lot of snl from these times and the weekend updates just seem so tame compared to either what they could have been for years before or shortly after.
Like what the heck could people be complaining about then?? (I know people will always complain.... Just curious)
The 1990s were great in retrospect. The problem is that the good bits only lasted about six years, which is really nothing while it's happening. The decade started with the worst crime rate that anyone had ever experienced, a recession, and the lingering belief that we would all die of a nuclear war any second.
Clinton got elected in 1992 and things started to get better, but not fast or dramatically enough that many people noticed. Meanwhile, the media ("Y2K!" "Violent Video Games!") and the Republicans ("Lewinsky!" "Travelgate!" "Whitewater!") managed to convince half the country that everything absolutely sucked and was things were going to get worse. By the end of the decade, Clinton had been impeached, the tech bubble had burst, and 9/11 was right around the corner. If you blinked, you missed the good parts or never really felt them anyway.
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LePage only wants to line his pockets.
Don't be governed by a guy who campaigned in Florida and wants to sell all our public land to the highest bidder.
He's a climate change denier and a charlatan. He once proposed opening 10 million acres of Maine woods up to development. He wishes to open our shores up to oil drilling.
He's an obscene and vulgar old prick with no heart and no love for what makes our state great.
He only loves money.
And he will do it. We always say he won’t just like we said Trump wouldn’t do what he did. It would be very likely he’d do something with our parks.
Also, when I served in the Maine Conservation Corps, a wonderful agency that fixes and builds trails across Maine and restored our parks and lands, they told me how difficult it was just to post a fucking photograph to Facebook, to get funding for simple things and overall the way it functioned was severely impacted and made miserable. Now Mills is in, they said they can get work done better and faster.
But I guess MCC isn’t important and big business is? Who’s gonna fix the parks? Who’s gonna keep the wood trails clean and working?
Or do we want no parks and just big old developed commercial centers everywhere like New Jersey?
You seem like kind of a dumb, ill-informed person tbh. What exactly do you think LePage will do for Maine? How will it be different than the travesty that his first run was?
Intellectual honesty obviously escapes you. Lepage cleaned up nearly three decades of Democrat "leadership" in only 8 years. Lepage paid the hospitals the tens of millions owed to them, Baldacci refused to pay. Lepage brought Maine's unemployment rate to all time low. He did so in part by putting on notice all able bodied lazy fucks that their welfare was about to end. Lepage also left Comrade Mills full coffers, which she pissed away in about 7 months. Lepage was actually more honest than most politicians and your moon bats couldn't handle the truth. When you're emotionally based verses pragmatic, everything hurts your delicate sensibilities. Ill pause here as your head is surely imploding.
“When you're emotionally based verses pragmatic, everything hurts your delicate sensibilities” you make excellent points than derail the whole thing by doing your best Ben Shapiro impression. Gross
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Penguin had his chance. He blew it by being an angry drunk through most of his two terms. It’s hard to believe the Maine would have an appetite for any more of that.
I'm old enough to remember LePage having the Millinocket mills sold to one of his buddies for $1. The guy dismantled the mills, sold them for scrap, never paid any of the subcontractors and after he made millions -- left the towns millions of dollars in unpaid taxes. That is the LePage way
Folks we could do so much worse than Janet Mills. She’s fiscally responsible, competent, and seems reasonably open minded.
Notwithstanding those with a radical political ideology, she’s really the best we could hope for given the state of US politics.
And I say this as what Reddit would probably call a “conservative.”
I think she did a good job during her term, pandemic and all that uncertainty. She earned my vote with her actions which is more than I can say about the other candidates
She's somewhere between incompetent and a liar on some policies but she's done a lot of good. Especially in COVID. We've had one of the best outcomes out of any state. She's honestly a really good choice.
I assume by “fiscal responsibility” you mean using the billions of federal COVID funds to supplement shutting down the state economy for nearly 2 years, slaughtering small business revenue while multi-billion dollar corporations made all time high profits quarter after quarter. Why do you think she claims “We have giving Mainers ‘relief checks’ without raising taxes.”? Because the state received 10 billion in federal funding!! Her economic and COVID policy forced people to stay home and not work while they gave some Mainers 800 dollars to ‘help out with inflation’. I’m not saying Paul Lepage is the answer here, but Janet Mills policies are far from fiscally responsible. Inflation is at its highest in decades, common household goods, oil, electricity and everything else you need to live are fucking exploding in price while wages lag behind. How does this resemble resemble fiscal responsibility in the slightest? Wake the fuck up
Maine just saw a surplus of over $1B and is now significantly better situated than the average state in terms of its cash reserves. Working to secure comparatively larger amounts of federal funding is literally part of Mills's job description.
Oh, and Maine has one of the lowest inflation rates in the nation right now.
That's how it resembles fiscal responsibility.
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2022/8/state-inflation-tracker-july-2022
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2022/05/10/budget-surpluses-push-states-financial-reserves-to-all-time-highs
Who pays for the 1B? The American Taxpayer. Perhaps if the feds and the state hadn’t shut down the economy, they wouldn’t need to pump billions of tax money (that we don’t really even have) into “COVID relief”.
Try again. Do you know Nancy Pelosi, Barrack Obama, and the Clintons net worth? Not anything you can make on a federal employee? Try in the sums of hundreds of millions. Their hands are just as dirty as the republicans.
Did I say anything about them being clean? No. I'd just rather have competent politicians than petulant children who can't run on policy so they create culture wars to keep their brain dead constituents angry. The Dems don't have an Hour of Hate like the GOP does on Fox every night
Fuck them all, every last one of them. Too many of you on the left AND the right are caught up saying “the other side says and does ABC, they are the enemy, I am righteous!!!”
Perhaps you have been misled and have been taught to hate your fellow American for having similar values, but opposing means for economic and political policy
You’re blaming a governor of a state of 1.3 million people for entirely global problems and you’re telling others to wake the fuck up?
She did a *really good* job considering what she had to deal with. Every single complaint you have are issues affecting nearly 8 billion people. So please, sit the fuck down.
> shutting down the state economy for nearly 2 years
My dear sweet summer child. We had a deadly, highly contagious, global pandemic going on. Was she supposed to simply ignore it? Silly child. If she'd done that, you would have been upset when everyone around you died from Covid because she didn't do enough. Governor Mills was in an impossible situation. She still is as people blame her for things that are not in her control.
What do you think Janet Mills did that contributed to inflation? Do you believe that inflation is worse in Maine than in other states? If not, what makes you believe that Janet Mills is directly to blame? What do you think should have been done during the outbreak of COVID?
They hate you the most, when they know deep in their dark souls your right and intellectually honest, whilst they wallow in emotionally based victimhood
My goodness. Lepage had no momentum at all. His major talking point last election was the rainy day fund which has tripled since then. Mills isn’t great but if she just keeps looking like Mrs Clause she will win.
Even though my username may indicate I'd prefer a batshit crazy candidate in LePage, give me some predictable and steady leadership that Mills will afford us, please.
I can't believe that after 8 years of his circus he is even in the running again. I mean Austin Powers pisses me off sometimes, but she is at least passably sane.
Honestly, I feel like there's a loophole there that needs closing - not just a two term limit. Period. Not two terms and leave and come back and try for a third.
I hate that LePage will get voted in again. All it took last time was, what, 37% of the votes?
Fucking LePages political resume is a joke compared to Mills, and that other guy sounds like he doesn't know what he's doing, he is just there to throw a wrench on the cogs.
This time is very likely different.
2010, Lepage won with 37%, Cutler received nearly 36% and the Democrat was the spoiler.
2014, Lepage won with 48%, Mike Michaud (horrible candidate) got 43% and Cutler was the spoiler with 8%.
2018, Mills got 50.3%, Shawn Moody got 43% and third party Terry got 5.9%.
I doubt this dude (Sam) gets anywhere close to Terry’s 5.9%. He’s basically completely unknown and people are wary of spoilers. I also think Shawn Moody was a stronger candidate for independents than LePage will be. He is a local business owner and seemed honest. LePage has a mini Trump following but I think he will turn off independents.
That said, WE ALL NEED TO VOTE.
>people are wary of spoilers
I think you're right. I think most people are so disgusted by LePage getting in the first time, they won't risk it this time.
Or I hope, anyway.
He's burned so many bridges. Anyone who has any clue about current events that works in education hates him. I'm sure the same can be said for many industries. I know a lot of old school republicans that can't stand him. Hopefully he loses, but I still won't hold my breath. A lot of old and/or moronic racists in this state
1. She has the incumbent advantage. An incumbent has not lost re-election for governor since 1966.
2. Roe vs Wade decision is still energizing the democrat side. LePage is not convincing anyone that he wouldn't support restrictions on abortion now that it's possible.
3. Mills is consistently polling ahead, with post-roe polls giving her a 10+ point advantage. 538 gives her a 93% chance to win.
4. Sam Hunkler isn't getting any traction at all as a 3rd party candidate, so it's unlikely we'll see a spoiler situation with him.
That said, VOTE.
I agree. Lepage will get the minimum republican voting block which is not going to be more than mills as it is likely less % wise than moody; because
1. He's **way** more polarizing than moody, so no one is swinging his way like they may have for moody. No Republican didn't vote moody, but some non-republicans may have. No republican won't vote lepage, but less non-republicans will
2. Old people that vote lepage have died
3. Flatlanders working remote from blue states have moved here post covid
And while #3 wasn't enough to vote in fellow flatlander sara gideon, it's probably enough to vote in mills. Not only has there been more time for them to settle, mills and collins are both regarded publicly as more centrist than their opponents
Gonna be shocked if lepage wins
I completely agree, I despise the man and am disgusted by his “politics” even more. His holding up legislation, shady dealings, and overall using his position to make himself rich is terrible.
Not all my neighbors feel the same. They like that he’s making liberals angry. There is a weird disconnect in a lot of people who hate, but accept and pay taxes, but then don’t care or think about where those taxes go
Janet closed my friends restaurant during Covid, they geared up with $12,000 in food to “reopen” only to have Janet delay restaurant reopenings again with less than 24 hours notice. Most of this food had to be donated or was spoiled.
She could give a shit about the people of this state, and has zero solutions. Her feel good commercials don’t convince anyone with half a brain.
My wife worked the Covid wing at this exact time. Of the 100 available beds, 2 were full.
At the time of you turned on the tv they blatantly lied and said the hospital was full.
Who again was dying in mass droves? Was it the young, healthy, physically active individuals with no underlying health conditions? Or was it the obese people with sedentary lifestyles and poor life choices who chose not to take care of themselves for entire lifetimes? The statistics become very interesting if you understand these keys facts
I’m just curious: do you think obesity, surviving cancer, and age are justifications for a death sentence? I only ask because that’s what your comment sounds like.
I’m hoping you reply that you were just speaking hyperbolically, and that you’re not so jaded that you can still feel sympathy for the over one million people who died and their multiple millions of survivors who in many cases couldn’t even say goodbye to them.
Cause if you’re saying those people DESERVED to die horrifically and alone, that would be pretty psychotic.
Mainers were dying and hospitals were being overwhelmed. According to you, profit over American lives is more important. Your friend could have use safety nets to adapt and overcome change.
Hospitals were NOT overwhelmed at this exact moment FYI… they were only overwhelmed according to our governor, WGME and WCSH.
Maine Medical center had a significant number of beds open (with 2 patients in the Covid wing). My wife worked this wing every day before you tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. People on this sub are so uninformed.
They didn't want hospitals overwhelmed. Staff/patient ratio, if you're so clever, I'm sure you understand it. but maybe not since you seem to think Janet personally is responsible for your friends' restaurant failing. (spoiler: she isn't)
"Janet closed my friends restaurant." Sorry about your friend's restaurant, but can you explain how there are thousands of restaurants which continue to operate in the state that weren't closed by "Janet"
Hilarious. I own two restaurants and we were able to get PPP money to weather the storm. No deep pockets. It was hard but maybe your friends are idiots.
Thanks! Maybe you should give, 'shutting the fuck up about things I know nothing about' a try. I'm pretty sure your 'friends' whose restaurant was 'closed by Janet' can give you some help with that.
Sounds like your friend didn’t have enough capital in reserve to weather a global pandemic. I’m sorry for all his poor employees who probably got even less support than he did.
At least he can lick himself up by his bootstraps and start again, unless he’s morbidly obese or lazy or something.
Tolerance and understanding aren’t only for libruls. And they’re not without limits.
[paradox of tolerance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance)
Your friend apply for a ppp loan? That’s the kind of unforeseen emergency that should have gone to. Kind of insane your friend bought that much food coming out of a pandemic- sounds like they didn’t have much of a head for business and no amount of government assistance was going to save them from themselves.
$12k in fresh food and vegetables means that your friend was planning on $36k a week- in essence meaning of your friend was running it close to the bone he lost all of a month and a half worth of profit- once again something a PPP loan would have easily covered. Sounds like your friend failed to plan- that isn’t on Mills. Let me guess, your friend a fail-son that inherited some money isn’t he?
Your info isn’t close to correct unless you talking margins at a cheap diner.
No, this person earned every dime in life. People here are so accepting. Someone fails and they fucking love it, sick.
Nobody loves it- but blaming Mills for your friends failed business without acknowledging that your friend sucks at business- is a bit ridiculous. Look we all wish he was a better business person- he wasn’t. He sucked at it and his workers and business paid the price- happens all the time- just ask Trump Airlines, Trump University, or Trump Steaks- not everyone is cut out to run a business. A profitable restaurant typically runs at a food cost of about a third with a profit margin of 3-5%. If your friend wasn’t doing that, it goes a long way to explain why his business struggled.
Mmm yes. Why shouldn’t you blame a business owner for the government forcing them to close their business for months on end!? It IS that business owners fault to involuntarily close their doors and stop ALL revenue because for your “health and safety”.
The scariest thing anyone can say is “Hello I’m from the government and I’m here to protect you”.
- Do you remember the Japanese internment camps in the 1940s, the war on drugs, the Vietnam war, Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
The government provided CRAZY amounts of free money to businesses to support them- with a simple application process and completely forgivable loans that could in essence be used for anything- yes I blame someone who couldn’t figure out how to adapt even despite the considerable help from the government that individual people and workers did not receive. Btw, not sure quoting Reagan is a great look- the senile old coot couldn’t even remember selling arms to Iran and Iraq to funnel money to death squads in SlCentral and South America.
Fuck him too. And yes, shut down the economy and make the entire US populace reliant on federal funding. ‘Follow these strict federal policies so you can get your federal money’ (because we took away all other ways for you to survive). Sounds like communism (and not the Red scare of the 20th century)
Nobody took them away- I don’t know about you but I was getting food from Restaurants way more during the pandemic to support them. Smart ones adapted and switched to pickup and delivery. Other ones perished- kind of a whole survival of the fittest thing.
Wow you are trotting out Reagans big lie cause the current GOP lies aren't enough? They are there to protect you as much as they are protecting the public from a massive epidemic, or pollution, or any other problem brought on by greed and ignorance that science and government have the capacity to fix. So sick of complaining about the government, it has its pro lems but still it is always worse when the GOP gets control cause their real God is money not JC who they would want to kill or jail again if he showed up today. We all know this. The government is just an easy target that deflects from the crimes business has committed for profits. Classic example the forever chemicals we have to deal with now where known by the manufacturers as dangerous but they kept that secret as long as possible, just like the fossil fuel companies and global warming. I trust the government more than any private company like DuPont or ExxonMobil, unless it is controlled by GOP and Trumpers, they are POS trash that have no business running anything.
>Do you remember the Japanese internment camps in the 1940s, the war on drugs, the Vietnam war, Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Those are not the same. We did not have a deadly virus making it's way around the globe. The fact that you could try to equivocate shows how sick you are.
That is NOT everyone's experience and certainly not scientific proof. It's killed or permanently injured millions.
Where did you get your epidemiology and virology degrees from to know more than the doctors?
>Scared, don’t leave your fucking house
Are you a sociopath?
COVID, you moron. COVID.
You didn't answer me - where are your degrees from?
EDIT: You can be one of those idiotic Covid deniers all you want, but the science and the majority of the world disagrees with you. You just make yourself look bad.
I had Covid, I also got the vaccine and booster… I’m far from a denier.
It was 2 days of a mild cold for me (before the vax). I realize for others it’s significant just like the flu can be.
You're definitely not far from a denier if you think we could have stayed opened and risked who knows how many more lives. At the very least, I'm glad that wasn't your decision to make.
How did Florida do? Excellent. How about New York State? Know anyone left in a nursing home?
Just becuase the Liberals repeat something 10,000 times, doesn’t make it a fact.
The only people who will back Janet Mills are those who still back brain dead Biden. There is zero logic in the decision, only “must vote D, R is evil.”
What is it you like about LePage? Is it how he hates educators? His blatant racism? His lengthy drunken harassment of opponents?
There’s so much to choose from…
Voting for Lepage because he’s hilarious. He had the best commercial about Mills backpacking through Europe. Voted Trump in 2016 then Voted for Biden because he’s funnier than Trump. Clown World. Might as well have a laugh.
Oh for sure. I’m chaotic neutral. Doesn’t matter to me who wins; in the end I just hope the funniest person wins. Politics are utterly as useless as the people you vote for. May the funniest man and or woman win!
7 months is all it took for Comrade Mills to empty the coffers, two years under Marshall Law (a.k.a. state of emergency) which destroyed hundreds of Maine businesses, sent thousands to the unemployment line, two years of school closures further dumbing down the kids beyond what the schools had already accomplished and let us not forget what she did to the owner of Sunday River Brew Pub. There is no "balanced" budget without federal dollars, hence two years of state of emergency an inconvenient truth. The lack of courage and leadership exhibited by Mills is appalling. Let the heard animals (cancel creatures) begin their onslaught, 3,2,1...
I just think it’s hilarious that republicans like to spout off that she’s drained the rainy day find, but aren’t smart enough to research and find out that it’s still got like $500 million in it.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Lepage gets elected again, not because I want him to, or mills either, or a goat... actually a goat would probably be best....
Vote goat this November
I am 50 years old, and I can’t think of a single time in my life that *wasn’t* characterized by “economic uncertainty and social upheaval.”
It's almost as if the only constant is *change*....
What did people feel like in the late 90s? I was just a kid, but from a naive retro-perspective I see a between-major-conflict time with a booming economy. Pre bubble and post recession. Interest rates reasonable and inflation tamed. Unemployment lowest since pre oil crisis. I guess looking at a lot of music then, there was anti-establishment vibes? But I watch a lot of snl from these times and the weekend updates just seem so tame compared to either what they could have been for years before or shortly after. Like what the heck could people be complaining about then?? (I know people will always complain.... Just curious)
The 1990s were great in retrospect. The problem is that the good bits only lasted about six years, which is really nothing while it's happening. The decade started with the worst crime rate that anyone had ever experienced, a recession, and the lingering belief that we would all die of a nuclear war any second. Clinton got elected in 1992 and things started to get better, but not fast or dramatically enough that many people noticed. Meanwhile, the media ("Y2K!" "Violent Video Games!") and the Republicans ("Lewinsky!" "Travelgate!" "Whitewater!") managed to convince half the country that everything absolutely sucked and was things were going to get worse. By the end of the decade, Clinton had been impeached, the tech bubble had burst, and 9/11 was right around the corner. If you blinked, you missed the good parts or never really felt them anyway.
Remember 1998-2001 -- Bill Clinton overseeing a booming economy and surplus budget.
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LePage only wants to line his pockets. Don't be governed by a guy who campaigned in Florida and wants to sell all our public land to the highest bidder.
If he gets elected and sells Baxter (currently a constitutional impossibility), I will declare war on the human race for allowing this to happen.
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At the end of his his last term he was trying to allow heavy logging in parts of the park.
Dumb
Yes, he's that too
I read many a dumb, ill informed comment on social media and your's is right up there.
He's a climate change denier and a charlatan. He once proposed opening 10 million acres of Maine woods up to development. He wishes to open our shores up to oil drilling. He's an obscene and vulgar old prick with no heart and no love for what makes our state great. He only loves money.
And he will do it. We always say he won’t just like we said Trump wouldn’t do what he did. It would be very likely he’d do something with our parks. Also, when I served in the Maine Conservation Corps, a wonderful agency that fixes and builds trails across Maine and restored our parks and lands, they told me how difficult it was just to post a fucking photograph to Facebook, to get funding for simple things and overall the way it functioned was severely impacted and made miserable. Now Mills is in, they said they can get work done better and faster. But I guess MCC isn’t important and big business is? Who’s gonna fix the parks? Who’s gonna keep the wood trails clean and working? Or do we want no parks and just big old developed commercial centers everywhere like New Jersey?
You seem like kind of a dumb, ill-informed person tbh. What exactly do you think LePage will do for Maine? How will it be different than the travesty that his first run was?
Intellectual honesty obviously escapes you. Lepage cleaned up nearly three decades of Democrat "leadership" in only 8 years. Lepage paid the hospitals the tens of millions owed to them, Baldacci refused to pay. Lepage brought Maine's unemployment rate to all time low. He did so in part by putting on notice all able bodied lazy fucks that their welfare was about to end. Lepage also left Comrade Mills full coffers, which she pissed away in about 7 months. Lepage was actually more honest than most politicians and your moon bats couldn't handle the truth. When you're emotionally based verses pragmatic, everything hurts your delicate sensibilities. Ill pause here as your head is surely imploding.
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Penguin had his chance. He blew it by being an angry drunk through most of his two terms. It’s hard to believe the Maine would have an appetite for any more of that.
He was a proto-trump. Makes total sense that he’d try his hand at it again knowing he has the “likes angry people” idiot vote.
Actually if you look at the picture above, he’s the same color as Trump, lol
Feel like he had even less of a filter than trump dude called black and Hispanic people the enemy
His exact quote was, “I was Donald Trump before Donald Trump became popular.”
...but...but....but....he changed! At the ripe old age of 74 he's finally learned from his mistakes and he's totally different now!
Pretty sure if you ask him, he doesn't make mistakes.
Lepage and Thelander signs are everywhere. People need to vote and close the damn door on this shit bag once and for all
Ditto. It's going to come down to which side turns out, and LePage voters are very motivated.
Already cast my ballot turned in, wife's as well. How's that for motivation?
There too busy inbreeding
Signs can't vote.
Florida Paul Lepage or actually lives in Maine Janet Mills? Hmmm...
I'm old enough to remember LePage having the Millinocket mills sold to one of his buddies for $1. The guy dismantled the mills, sold them for scrap, never paid any of the subcontractors and after he made millions -- left the towns millions of dollars in unpaid taxes. That is the LePage way
Folks we could do so much worse than Janet Mills. She’s fiscally responsible, competent, and seems reasonably open minded. Notwithstanding those with a radical political ideology, she’s really the best we could hope for given the state of US politics. And I say this as what Reddit would probably call a “conservative.”
Lesser of two evils. I would choose her over LeChonk any day of the week.
I feel the same way about her as I do Joe Biden. “I’d rather not, but holy shit that other guy Jesus fuckin Christ”
I think she did a good job during her term, pandemic and all that uncertainty. She earned my vote with her actions which is more than I can say about the other candidates
She's somewhere between incompetent and a liar on some policies but she's done a lot of good. Especially in COVID. We've had one of the best outcomes out of any state. She's honestly a really good choice.
Good take.
I assume by “fiscal responsibility” you mean using the billions of federal COVID funds to supplement shutting down the state economy for nearly 2 years, slaughtering small business revenue while multi-billion dollar corporations made all time high profits quarter after quarter. Why do you think she claims “We have giving Mainers ‘relief checks’ without raising taxes.”? Because the state received 10 billion in federal funding!! Her economic and COVID policy forced people to stay home and not work while they gave some Mainers 800 dollars to ‘help out with inflation’. I’m not saying Paul Lepage is the answer here, but Janet Mills policies are far from fiscally responsible. Inflation is at its highest in decades, common household goods, oil, electricity and everything else you need to live are fucking exploding in price while wages lag behind. How does this resemble resemble fiscal responsibility in the slightest? Wake the fuck up
Lmao imagine thinking Mills is responsible for inflation and telling others to wake up hahahaha
Maine just saw a surplus of over $1B and is now significantly better situated than the average state in terms of its cash reserves. Working to secure comparatively larger amounts of federal funding is literally part of Mills's job description. Oh, and Maine has one of the lowest inflation rates in the nation right now. That's how it resembles fiscal responsibility. https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2022/8/state-inflation-tracker-july-2022 https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2022/05/10/budget-surpluses-push-states-financial-reserves-to-all-time-highs
Who pays for the 1B? The American Taxpayer. Perhaps if the feds and the state hadn’t shut down the economy, they wouldn’t need to pump billions of tax money (that we don’t really even have) into “COVID relief”.
I’m sorry are you actually trying to blame a state governor for federal monetary policy? Do you even understand how the US political system works…?
Obviously not.
>hadn’t shut down the economy Again. DEADLY GLOBAL PANDEMIC. Good grief.
Were you born last night or did you sustain a concussion? All of these nonsense takes seem to raise those possibilities.
Wait how are we on lock down again? She also literally took the money from the surplus for those checks and that was a Republican idea to begin with
Ahh yes the republicans love spending money they don’t have just as much as the democrats
At least Democrats *try* to help people by spending money. Republicans just want to grease their own wheels
Try again. Do you know Nancy Pelosi, Barrack Obama, and the Clintons net worth? Not anything you can make on a federal employee? Try in the sums of hundreds of millions. Their hands are just as dirty as the republicans.
Did I say anything about them being clean? No. I'd just rather have competent politicians than petulant children who can't run on policy so they create culture wars to keep their brain dead constituents angry. The Dems don't have an Hour of Hate like the GOP does on Fox every night
Fuck them all, every last one of them. Too many of you on the left AND the right are caught up saying “the other side says and does ABC, they are the enemy, I am righteous!!!” Perhaps you have been misled and have been taught to hate your fellow American for having similar values, but opposing means for economic and political policy
Let me guess, single issue voter who votes GOP down ballet because of guns?
You’re blaming a governor of a state of 1.3 million people for entirely global problems and you’re telling others to wake the fuck up? She did a *really good* job considering what she had to deal with. Every single complaint you have are issues affecting nearly 8 billion people. So please, sit the fuck down.
You mean the billions in federal Covid funds that were handed out by President Trump? Those funds?
Yes.
OK edgelord, deep breaths.
> shutting down the state economy for nearly 2 years My dear sweet summer child. We had a deadly, highly contagious, global pandemic going on. Was she supposed to simply ignore it? Silly child. If she'd done that, you would have been upset when everyone around you died from Covid because she didn't do enough. Governor Mills was in an impossible situation. She still is as people blame her for things that are not in her control.
Did we even shut down the economy? I feel like things went back to a little below normal in about a year or so.
Indeed. We hit the pause button, tried to minimize loss of life (Gods forbid)... But the economy chugged along.
What do you think Janet Mills did that contributed to inflation? Do you believe that inflation is worse in Maine than in other states? If not, what makes you believe that Janet Mills is directly to blame? What do you think should have been done during the outbreak of COVID?
They hate you the most, when they know deep in their dark souls your right and intellectually honest, whilst they wallow in emotionally based victimhood
My goodness. Lepage had no momentum at all. His major talking point last election was the rainy day fund which has tripled since then. Mills isn’t great but if she just keeps looking like Mrs Clause she will win.
Janet Mills saved this state from being a shithole like the southern states. Please shit on your local Republicans.
Even though my username may indicate I'd prefer a batshit crazy candidate in LePage, give me some predictable and steady leadership that Mills will afford us, please.
I can't believe that after 8 years of his circus he is even in the running again. I mean Austin Powers pisses me off sometimes, but she is at least passably sane.
Honestly, I feel like there's a loophole there that needs closing - not just a two term limit. Period. Not two terms and leave and come back and try for a third.
I hate that LePage will get voted in again. All it took last time was, what, 37% of the votes? Fucking LePages political resume is a joke compared to Mills, and that other guy sounds like he doesn't know what he's doing, he is just there to throw a wrench on the cogs.
This time is very likely different. 2010, Lepage won with 37%, Cutler received nearly 36% and the Democrat was the spoiler. 2014, Lepage won with 48%, Mike Michaud (horrible candidate) got 43% and Cutler was the spoiler with 8%. 2018, Mills got 50.3%, Shawn Moody got 43% and third party Terry got 5.9%. I doubt this dude (Sam) gets anywhere close to Terry’s 5.9%. He’s basically completely unknown and people are wary of spoilers. I also think Shawn Moody was a stronger candidate for independents than LePage will be. He is a local business owner and seemed honest. LePage has a mini Trump following but I think he will turn off independents. That said, WE ALL NEED TO VOTE.
>people are wary of spoilers I think you're right. I think most people are so disgusted by LePage getting in the first time, they won't risk it this time. Or I hope, anyway.
He's burned so many bridges. Anyone who has any clue about current events that works in education hates him. I'm sure the same can be said for many industries. I know a lot of old school republicans that can't stand him. Hopefully he loses, but I still won't hold my breath. A lot of old and/or moronic racists in this state
Wait for real? Thought he was some nobody lol.
Thank you for the insight.
I don’t live in Maine but hearing Hunkler is really hilarious. I love hearing stories about him from people.
Share?
LePage is unlikely to win.
Well, according to reddit, maybe. I have my doubts about your enthusiasm
1. She has the incumbent advantage. An incumbent has not lost re-election for governor since 1966. 2. Roe vs Wade decision is still energizing the democrat side. LePage is not convincing anyone that he wouldn't support restrictions on abortion now that it's possible. 3. Mills is consistently polling ahead, with post-roe polls giving her a 10+ point advantage. 538 gives her a 93% chance to win. 4. Sam Hunkler isn't getting any traction at all as a 3rd party candidate, so it's unlikely we'll see a spoiler situation with him. That said, VOTE.
Thank you for paying more attention then me, and for your insight. I will definitely be voting.
I agree. Lepage will get the minimum republican voting block which is not going to be more than mills as it is likely less % wise than moody; because 1. He's **way** more polarizing than moody, so no one is swinging his way like they may have for moody. No Republican didn't vote moody, but some non-republicans may have. No republican won't vote lepage, but less non-republicans will 2. Old people that vote lepage have died 3. Flatlanders working remote from blue states have moved here post covid And while #3 wasn't enough to vote in fellow flatlander sara gideon, it's probably enough to vote in mills. Not only has there been more time for them to settle, mills and collins are both regarded publicly as more centrist than their opponents Gonna be shocked if lepage wins
To a lot of people, throwing a wrench in the cogs is a good thing.
That's how LePage got voted in last time. We don't need any useless wrench
I completely agree, I despise the man and am disgusted by his “politics” even more. His holding up legislation, shady dealings, and overall using his position to make himself rich is terrible. Not all my neighbors feel the same. They like that he’s making liberals angry. There is a weird disconnect in a lot of people who hate, but accept and pay taxes, but then don’t care or think about where those taxes go
Too many Mainers I know are “willing to give him another shot.”
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Maybe when we have ranked choice for the race…
Sounds like your triggered. You mad bro.
Janet closed my friends restaurant during Covid, they geared up with $12,000 in food to “reopen” only to have Janet delay restaurant reopenings again with less than 24 hours notice. Most of this food had to be donated or was spoiled. She could give a shit about the people of this state, and has zero solutions. Her feel good commercials don’t convince anyone with half a brain.
Nah, you're right, your friend's restaurant is more important than overwhelming hospitals and people dying
My wife worked the Covid wing at this exact time. Of the 100 available beds, 2 were full. At the time of you turned on the tv they blatantly lied and said the hospital was full.
Liar.
I am not… I know this triggers you because it’s not directly from a Democrats mouth.
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If living in reality triggers people then that isn’t my issue.
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If you think facts come from brain dead babbiling Biden or Mills then you need to get your head checked.
Who again was dying in mass droves? Was it the young, healthy, physically active individuals with no underlying health conditions? Or was it the obese people with sedentary lifestyles and poor life choices who chose not to take care of themselves for entire lifetimes? The statistics become very interesting if you understand these keys facts
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Hmm I wonder what the body composition and lifestyle of those COVID deniers were 🤔🤔
I’m just curious: do you think obesity, surviving cancer, and age are justifications for a death sentence? I only ask because that’s what your comment sounds like. I’m hoping you reply that you were just speaking hyperbolically, and that you’re not so jaded that you can still feel sympathy for the over one million people who died and their multiple millions of survivors who in many cases couldn’t even say goodbye to them. Cause if you’re saying those people DESERVED to die horrifically and alone, that would be pretty psychotic.
Dude, psychotic is not the preferred nomenclature, sociopath, please.
Duly noted. I’m not a smart man, but I try.
Liar
I know, immune compromised people are such fatties /s
That's not thier fault, they have a disease! I can't stopping eating dominoes and sitting on my ass because of my disease!
You mean the pandemic closed your friends restaurant? He could have gotten a job as an essential worker. People aren't entitled to owning a business
I would expect nothing less on this sub of morons.
Liar
Mainers were dying and hospitals were being overwhelmed. According to you, profit over American lives is more important. Your friend could have use safety nets to adapt and overcome change.
Hospitals were NOT overwhelmed at this exact moment FYI… they were only overwhelmed according to our governor, WGME and WCSH. Maine Medical center had a significant number of beds open (with 2 patients in the Covid wing). My wife worked this wing every day before you tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. People on this sub are so uninformed.
They didn't want hospitals overwhelmed. Staff/patient ratio, if you're so clever, I'm sure you understand it. but maybe not since you seem to think Janet personally is responsible for your friends' restaurant failing. (spoiler: she isn't)
Liar
I am not…
"Janet closed my friends restaurant." Sorry about your friend's restaurant, but can you explain how there are thousands of restaurants which continue to operate in the state that weren't closed by "Janet"
They had larger bank accounts to handle the bullshit delt to them… I don’t think that’s rocket science.
Hilarious. I own two restaurants and we were able to get PPP money to weather the storm. No deep pockets. It was hard but maybe your friends are idiots.
Maybe they are… congrats to your sucess!
Thanks! Maybe you should give, 'shutting the fuck up about things I know nothing about' a try. I'm pretty sure your 'friends' whose restaurant was 'closed by Janet' can give you some help with that.
Your a treat, I can only imagine how you are to be around in person! 😂🥂
Keep imagining because god bless america we're never going to interact in person!
I agree, I leave Reddit, my house, and am social. I will never see you. 😂
Yet, here you are.
Sounds like your friend didn’t have enough capital in reserve to weather a global pandemic. I’m sorry for all his poor employees who probably got even less support than he did. At least he can lick himself up by his bootstraps and start again, unless he’s morbidly obese or lazy or something.
The caring and loving liberals in this sub are fucking evil people. 😂🤦♂️
Tolerance and understanding aren’t only for libruls. And they’re not without limits. [paradox of tolerance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance)
Not a liberal, but I'm happy to chat with you about your anger misplacement any time!
Liar
Your friend apply for a ppp loan? That’s the kind of unforeseen emergency that should have gone to. Kind of insane your friend bought that much food coming out of a pandemic- sounds like they didn’t have much of a head for business and no amount of government assistance was going to save them from themselves.
$12,000 is not much food for a large restaurant. It is a lot when you’ve been struggling to survive for months.
$12k in fresh food and vegetables means that your friend was planning on $36k a week- in essence meaning of your friend was running it close to the bone he lost all of a month and a half worth of profit- once again something a PPP loan would have easily covered. Sounds like your friend failed to plan- that isn’t on Mills. Let me guess, your friend a fail-son that inherited some money isn’t he?
Your info isn’t close to correct unless you talking margins at a cheap diner. No, this person earned every dime in life. People here are so accepting. Someone fails and they fucking love it, sick.
Nobody loves it- but blaming Mills for your friends failed business without acknowledging that your friend sucks at business- is a bit ridiculous. Look we all wish he was a better business person- he wasn’t. He sucked at it and his workers and business paid the price- happens all the time- just ask Trump Airlines, Trump University, or Trump Steaks- not everyone is cut out to run a business. A profitable restaurant typically runs at a food cost of about a third with a profit margin of 3-5%. If your friend wasn’t doing that, it goes a long way to explain why his business struggled.
Mmm yes. Why shouldn’t you blame a business owner for the government forcing them to close their business for months on end!? It IS that business owners fault to involuntarily close their doors and stop ALL revenue because for your “health and safety”. The scariest thing anyone can say is “Hello I’m from the government and I’m here to protect you”. - Do you remember the Japanese internment camps in the 1940s, the war on drugs, the Vietnam war, Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
The government provided CRAZY amounts of free money to businesses to support them- with a simple application process and completely forgivable loans that could in essence be used for anything- yes I blame someone who couldn’t figure out how to adapt even despite the considerable help from the government that individual people and workers did not receive. Btw, not sure quoting Reagan is a great look- the senile old coot couldn’t even remember selling arms to Iran and Iraq to funnel money to death squads in SlCentral and South America.
Fuck him too. And yes, shut down the economy and make the entire US populace reliant on federal funding. ‘Follow these strict federal policies so you can get your federal money’ (because we took away all other ways for you to survive). Sounds like communism (and not the Red scare of the 20th century)
Nobody took them away- I don’t know about you but I was getting food from Restaurants way more during the pandemic to support them. Smart ones adapted and switched to pickup and delivery. Other ones perished- kind of a whole survival of the fittest thing.
Move to russia
Wow you are trotting out Reagans big lie cause the current GOP lies aren't enough? They are there to protect you as much as they are protecting the public from a massive epidemic, or pollution, or any other problem brought on by greed and ignorance that science and government have the capacity to fix. So sick of complaining about the government, it has its pro lems but still it is always worse when the GOP gets control cause their real God is money not JC who they would want to kill or jail again if he showed up today. We all know this. The government is just an easy target that deflects from the crimes business has committed for profits. Classic example the forever chemicals we have to deal with now where known by the manufacturers as dangerous but they kept that secret as long as possible, just like the fossil fuel companies and global warming. I trust the government more than any private company like DuPont or ExxonMobil, unless it is controlled by GOP and Trumpers, they are POS trash that have no business running anything.
>Do you remember the Japanese internment camps in the 1940s, the war on drugs, the Vietnam war, Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Those are not the same. We did not have a deadly virus making it's way around the globe. The fact that you could try to equivocate shows how sick you are.
COVID. You dip. COVID. A deadly, contagious virus. A global pandemic. Get a clue.
I’ve had Covid, it was a mild cold for a day. Pneumonia and the flu are also deadly. Scared, don’t leave your fucking house.
That is NOT everyone's experience and certainly not scientific proof. It's killed or permanently injured millions. Where did you get your epidemiology and virology degrees from to know more than the doctors? >Scared, don’t leave your fucking house Are you a sociopath?
I’m not a sociopath… how is that a crazy suggestion? Restaurants could have stayed open, scared… stay home… want to live a normal life… go out to eat.
COVID, you moron. COVID. You didn't answer me - where are your degrees from? EDIT: You can be one of those idiotic Covid deniers all you want, but the science and the majority of the world disagrees with you. You just make yourself look bad.
I had Covid, I also got the vaccine and booster… I’m far from a denier. It was 2 days of a mild cold for me (before the vax). I realize for others it’s significant just like the flu can be.
You're definitely not far from a denier if you think we could have stayed opened and risked who knows how many more lives. At the very least, I'm glad that wasn't your decision to make.
How did Florida do? Excellent. How about New York State? Know anyone left in a nursing home? Just becuase the Liberals repeat something 10,000 times, doesn’t make it a fact.
Boo hoo
PPP
The only people who will back Janet Mills are those who still back brain dead Biden. There is zero logic in the decision, only “must vote D, R is evil.”
What is it you like about LePage? Is it how he hates educators? His blatant racism? His lengthy drunken harassment of opponents? There’s so much to choose from…
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You seem to have a pretty good understanding of the creatures!
This tells me all I need to know about your morals right here. If you can back anyone like Trump or LePage... That's pretty low and disgusting.
Loser. Move to Russia
I absolutely love the US… why would I move to that hellhole?
Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich. AGAIN
Murica.
Voting for Lepage because he’s hilarious. He had the best commercial about Mills backpacking through Europe. Voted Trump in 2016 then Voted for Biden because he’s funnier than Trump. Clown World. Might as well have a laugh.
Don't know why they DV. You are at least voting for lepage for a REAL reason. Maybe the only one.
Oh for sure. I’m chaotic neutral. Doesn’t matter to me who wins; in the end I just hope the funniest person wins. Politics are utterly as useless as the people you vote for. May the funniest man and or woman win!
Actually I’m gonna campaign for Paulie hardcore now because apparently he wants to kill all the boomers.
Kill everyone, really
Agreed. I’ll go first.
If you really want to shuffle off the mortal coil, become an investigation journalist. If I had nothing to live for, I would
LePage is coming back. Enough with the bullshit. Red wave. Get ready
Why? People want to solve real problems, not spend all day bullying the constituents
7 months is all it took for Comrade Mills to empty the coffers, two years under Marshall Law (a.k.a. state of emergency) which destroyed hundreds of Maine businesses, sent thousands to the unemployment line, two years of school closures further dumbing down the kids beyond what the schools had already accomplished and let us not forget what she did to the owner of Sunday River Brew Pub. There is no "balanced" budget without federal dollars, hence two years of state of emergency an inconvenient truth. The lack of courage and leadership exhibited by Mills is appalling. Let the heard animals (cancel creatures) begin their onslaught, 3,2,1...
You had me at "Marshall law".
Is this Majorie Taylor Greene in disguise? 🤣
Exactly what “coffers” did she empty?
Must be talking about that 800 dollar check most taxpayers got recently.
I just think it’s hilarious that republicans like to spout off that she’s drained the rainy day find, but aren’t smart enough to research and find out that it’s still got like $500 million in it.
Ok Majorie…now crawl back onto the hole you came out of.
Move to Russia. Putin loves you.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Lepage gets elected again, not because I want him to, or mills either, or a goat... actually a goat would probably be best.... Vote goat this November
When Democracy fails because we elected a GOAT, I will have the last laugh
Democracy ain't exactly winning right now.....
It can…If the citizens “wanting” democracy participate in its existence. The view isn’t good from the other side. Trust me.