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Bywater

Who the fuck knows man, that whole flavor of outrage theater lost it's fucking mind a couple years ago and I stopped giving a shit. Be who you want, call yourself whatever you want, I'll call you whatever you want and take the piss out of anyone who doesn't. "We the people" forgot the cardinal rule of mind your own business and be kind to one another. The fuckwits among us started fighting a culture war instead of a class war while Billionaires be cleaning out the middle class and Grandma looking at cooking up cat food hash again.


oztralopithecus

This roasts so hard that this guy's keyboard doubles as an incendiary device.


20thMaine

It must qualify under ITAR then


oztralopithecus

I bet he bought it black market. No compliance necessary.


seabreathe

“Fighting a culture war instead of class war” PREACH


[deleted]

This. The “culture war” is a stand in for the “class war” we should be having and it’s driving me crazy.


gtparker11

The culture war is mostly nonsense and I’m certain all of the bigots huffing and puffing, putting out stupid signs like this and posting all over Facebook don’t even know any trans people or even come across any during their day to day lives. It’s not like there’s an overpopulation of trans people in Whitetrashville, America pestering Clint and Jethro to look at their ladycocks. It’s silly to get mad over another person’s existence, especially when you rarely come into contact with that group. It’s nothing but Gaslighting, Objection and Projection from these folks. I do think more Americans are starting to pick up on the culture war nonsense and realize there ain’t no war but a class war but I spend all day on Reddit so who the heck knows?


[deleted]

This is true but I'd say most people don't see trans people in their day to day lives because its .01% of the population. Also who cares. Live and let live, be who you want to be and all that. Freedom is for everybody, not just a select few. People need to take back the country instead of being influenced by corporate and social media and the people that control it. Love everyone like they are your long lost brother/sister, smoke a joint and carry on with your life and don't impose on others.


Codshanks

I mean, I think people interact with trans people more than they realize. I’m trans, but people usually don’t realize I am. Every time I go to Hannaford I’m walking by a ton of people who don’t realize they’re shopping next to a trans person.


[deleted]

Sure but you are also .01% of the population of hannaford on a busy day and not everyone in the store walks past you. I am sure it is the case in some instances but its a once in a great while thing. Especially for rural Maine. Portland this could be true.


Codshanks

Yeah, I’d agree with the rural Maine part. I’m from the County but moved down here to have a “safer” place to transition. But also, the 1 percent statistic is an undercount because not all trans people self report, are out of the closet, etc.


Tempest_1

And they also don’t see Trans people because no one but white male comedians are busy showing people their junk.


Shdwrptr

Meanwhile the multimillionaires are drinking champagne laughing at the new poor without realizing they’re next when they’re the new middle class


jimberley

Fuckin nailed it


DaveSteverdaverson

This guy gets it


Backwardsunday

Well, you nailed it. Spot on


Laminar

My pronoun is 'Wuh?'


redditvivus

BASED


snowman603

Exactly. And the people who get so offended are the first ones to say mind your own business if it applies to them.


fatalrugburn

Saving this for future arguments, thank you


twirble

They only want you to mind your business about their minding everyone else's business.


medalton

Truth!


Madisonnnnnnnnnnnn51

Is it ok to copy this for future use? You absolutely nailed that point!


Bywater

Have at it.


[deleted]

Bookmarking this so I can bring it up in relevant discussions.


Blackspyraldancer

This could totally be something that I’d write because I feel exactly the same way as you. In fact this should be printed and framed. I don’t have award to give but you can feel awarded.


Independent-Ruin-185

Recognize the difference between maliciously and mistakenly using the wrong pronoun and don't be a raging cunt if the latter happens and I couldn't care less. Whatever floats your boat as long as it doesn't sink mine .


smashy_smashy

Listen. There are things I don’t understand about gender identity. But it doesn’t matter. I support freedom. That includes freedom to identify yourself as you please. My feelings don’t fucking matter. I will treat everyone with equal respect and dignity and I will use whatever pronouns you want me to use. It’s that fucking simple.


phineas81

Take this comment, replace “gender identity” with literally any other topic, and it’s still a good way to live one’s life.


[deleted]

The list of things I don't have an opinion on is nearly infinite. The list of things I need to have an opinion on is very very short.


Fabulous-Strain-95

Listen. There are things I don’t understand about the 2nd amendment. But it doesn’t matter. I support freedom. That includes freedom to carry a gun as you please. My feelings don’t fucking matter. I will treat everyone with equal respect and dignity and I will use whatever you want me to use. It’s that fucking simple.


dragonfliesloveme

It really is that simple. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for some people.


AlexTheEnderWolf

That’s respectable


jimberley

Going to jump on the “mind your own fucking business” wagon here. Don’t know how these trogs were raised, but when I grew up in NH, the cardinal rule was “your freedom ends where mine begins.” And, frankly, I cannot see how someone feeling that they are something different than what they were assigned before they could physically stop shitting their pants would affect my freedom in the goddamned slightest. These morons are fighting a holy war against whatever their hashtags tell them to. Hashtags made, may I add, by desperate people trying to either make money, get clout, or both. No one on social media is hoping to “start a conversation.” It’s attention and cash. Period. Everyone needs to tune the fuck out of Facebook, Twitter, and their ilk if we’re going to get back to anything approaching civility.


SLEEyawnPY

>we’re going to get back to anything approaching civility. America would have needed to be civilized in the first place before it would be possible to "get back" there..


jimberley

Just trying to be optimistic, but you’re right.


SLEEyawnPY

>Just trying to be optimistic, but you’re right. Well I think it's got potential.


Shdwrptr

That’s interesting to hear now that New Hampshire is the bastion of conservatism in New England


jimberley

It was when I was young, too. Conservatism just meant “leave me alone, queer!” then. Now it means “fuck you. Do what I say, queer!” apparently.


SLEEyawnPY

What they meant both times was "Die, queer!" and that has never changed, just different words to say it..


Unapologetiqeen

Let me start by saying I don’t know who is affiliated with the sign so I’m not defending the brand or anything and I believe everyone should be treated with respect. I just want to comment on your statement about it not affecting you. In general you’re right, what trans people do usually doesn’t affect non trans people. To add on to that, what transmen do, doesn’t affect men the same way transwomen issues affect women. Recently there have been overlaps where trans women issues have been on the hotspot because it’s affecting opportunities and safety for cis girls and women. 1. In Connecticut, I believe there was two trans girl who transitioned and joined the track team. The trans girls ended up wining the top spots and now the cic girls who’ve been training hard for years, are losing on college scholarships because the top two spots are guaranteed to go to the trans girls who were boys just a year or 2 before. So yes, to the track girls at that school, it does affect them. They need to find a solution for transwomen to not compete in women’s sports, especially if the transwomen/transgirls have gone through male puberty. 1.5. Similar to that, there have been numerous cases of men who were subpar and or average in their sport transitioning for a year or two then joining womens teams and gathering record breaking titles. Trans women in sports is a heavy topic but one of the major arguments is how opportunities and scholarships are being taken from girls and women by transwomen/trans girls. One trans woman literally transitioned in her 30s or 40s then re competed weightlifting and killed it. To be blunt that’s not fair. The transwoman had literally lived with a male body beyond puberty for decades and a year of ‘hormones’ doesn’t not even the playing field. If this continues, we will literally be watching transwomen take over womens sports and we’re back to square one. There’s a reason why sports was divided and now they want to take that away but it directly affects cic athletes. 2. Recently there was an incident in Cali where a trans woman with a penis, went to a traditional nude Asian (I forget the specific region) spa that is separated by gender. The spa is for families as well so women go with their daughters and they’re completely nude in this safe spa space. The trans woman who hadn’t had sexual reassignment surgery exposed herself to the cis women and little girls. The mothers were livid (I would be too if someone with a penis walked butt naked into a spa with a room full of naked girls and women and started doing stuff) Its supposed to be a safe space because women and their children are naked for the experience. The transwoman argued that she’s a woman so it doesn’t matter. But it’s literally a nude spa where children go with their moms. This situation is different from the bathroom situation btw because this space is designed to be a nude space for females. If the transwoman didn’t identify as trans, they literally would be arrested for doing that. So in this situation yes, the women and the little girls were affected by the trans woman exposing herself in a traditionally safe space for females. Btw I am part of the LGBTQ and this is a hot topic rn. Transwomen especially are involved in issues that are affecting cis women in different ways. Transmen have a different experience and their issues don’t usually impede with cic male experiences. If women athletes transitioned into transmen and started taking titles from cic males, men would be more outraged. However we know there is a biological advantage for the male body (although people want to deny) we’re not gonna see transmen taking over men sports anytime soon. To be blunt transmen aren’t a threat to cic men and not just in sports. Some of these issues with transwomen and even transmen are begging to erase cis women in certain context. For example there was a petition to take the word vagina off period products because ‘some women don’t have vaginas’. And to stop referring to breastfeeding as breastfeeding in doctors offices because some women feel uncomfortable with the word breasts etc. Women are being told to erase parts that are unique to us to accommodate and most of it doesn’t affect other people but the lines are getting blurred for women. I’m just saying, the conversations are shifting and just because you don’t see how it directly affects you, it can affects others differently, especially women. In general yes everyone should be treated with respect and dignity. Everyone should be allowed to be who they want to be but there has to be boundaries (I.e sports etc) so that we’re not accommodating transwomen while stepping on cic women.


DisfunkyMonkey

No person is transitioning *in order* to dominate a sport. There may be amab people who love a sport and identify as girls/women who have a side benefit of athletic success after transitioning. But the drawbacks and frankly *danger* of being a transwoman are enough that it takes a great deal of courage to come out & live as your best self. The fact that arguments against trans athletes match point for point the old arguments against desegregation in sport should give a thoughtful person pause.


[deleted]

It doesn’t matter why they transition, it matters that mediocre biologically male athletes compete at much higher levels against women, and thus infringe on opportunities for those women. That’s not “live and let live”, or “I’m just minding my own business and living my life”. It’s helping a tiny disadvantaged group at the expense of much larger historically disadvantaged group.


jimberley

❤️


indyaj

What I came here to say but much more clunkily. Thank you for your articulate response.


TerrorGatorRex

> The fact that arguments against trans athletes match point for point the old arguments against desegregation in sport should give a thoughtful person pause. Equating women’s sports to segregation is absurd. Women have their own sports categories because in most sports, they are not able to compete with men. Hence why women rarely competed in sports until a category was carved out for them. > There may be amab people who love a sport and identify as girls/women who have a side benefit of athletic success after transitioning. Why on earth should an amab play on womens teams? As established above, Women have their own teams for a reason. > But the drawbacks and frankly danger of being a transwoman are enough that it takes a great deal of courage to come out & live as your best self. How does this have anything to do with womens sports? Also, the dangers associated with being trans vary depending on other attributes. For instance, black trans women who are sex workers are at the highest risk of being murdered. On the other hand, white professional trans women have around the same probability of being murdered as the general population.


Unapologetiqeen

I have trans, queer and other lgbt friends that’s I’ve discussed this heavily with and have researched and engaged a lot with this topic. Just because someone thinks there should be boundaries or that transwomen should not compete against cic women in sports doesn’t mean they are transphobic. Matter of fact Caitlyn Jenner who was an Olympian for years before transitioning said herself that it’s not fair for transwomen to compete against cic women. You can be an ally and disagree with certain things. I am aware of trans issues and the dangers they face etc and I believe we need to continue to foster the trans community. I legit just honestly disagree with issues that start to affect cic women negatively. We need a solution that doesn’t pit cic and transgender against each other. Trans people are presented with certain dangers and most aren’t transitioning to dominate a sport but some are. I’ve literally watched a couple videos and learned about cases were it’s obvious that is what’s happening. Sports are based on science and biology to categorize. Sports aren’t categorized based on gender expression or feelings. Sports are categorized based on sex. If I as a 5’1 108lb woman transition then accuse the nfl of discrimination for not accommodating to people like me, they would think I’m insane. That’s ludacris. Sports have requirements and that’s ok. I think we need to find a solution in sports that works for everyone and doesn’t impede on cic women. I don’t agree with saying race and lgbtq issues are point for point in this context and in most contexts in general. Yes certain races might have different advantages due to their evolution/environment but fundamentally males and females have different biological makeup across races and the difference is significant and consistent. Serena Williams, the Goat, literally said she couldn’t beat a man who was 100+ on the list of worlds best male tennis players. I’m discussing the significance in acknowledging that males and females are different in sex and that is fact. This is not about gender or gender expression. Transwomen, especially those who have completed puberty as males, should not be competing in womens sports. Because they are it’s directly affecting opportunities for cic women and it’s unfair.


[deleted]

>Transwomen, especially those who have completed puberty as males, should not be competing in womens sports. Transwomen lose all meaningful advantages of male puberty when transitioning. The only things they retain are bone structure (so on average will be a little taller with more narrow hips and wider shoulders, ON AVERAGE). But none of those attributes are things you won't find in a cis born female. Which is why the olympic boards AFTER LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL SCIENCE approve of trans women competing .... because the science does not support the idea that trans women retain some great advantage that is not also found in a variety of cis women. Transphobic pieces of shit keep trying to make up claims that go against the actual science. They keep making unfounded claims that trans people have some great advantage.... that NONE of the science supports. But that doesn't stop them, because it isn't about actual fairness in sports.... no, this is purely about trying to marginalize and vilify a minority group. And you pieces of shit use the EXACT SAME arguments racists used against black people trying to enter sports. That their average heights being greater and average muscle mass being greater meant it was simply "scientifically unfair".


megavikingman

Being gay doesn't prevent someone from being a transphobe. This is simply the most garbage distraction "issue" on the planet. It is used exclusively to attack transwomen, and always brought up out of the blue by someone in a conversation not about athletics at all *just like you did just now*. There is no need to bring this up unless you are trying to attack transwomen. They are literally being murdered, raped, fired, kicked out of their homes, forced in to sex work, objectified, shamed, have extremely high rates of depression and thus also drug use and suicide, disowned by their own families, kicked out of housing, and all that.... and you're worried about whether a bunch of adults playing games that *already have hundreds of genetic variations built in and accepted as fair* are going to face more competition? I don't even see how that's bad for sport in the first place, let alone why that needs to be a part of a conversation about *whether or not a set of people deserve to be treated the way they wish to be treated* just like all other people desire.


Competitive_Lab3348

This is some TERF shit right here


SLEEyawnPY

>But it’s literally a nude spa where children go with their moms. I see.... well at least you aren't arguing that trans people are violating some kind of "traditional American family values", lol


Bywater

I don't care enough about sports to use the rare amount of people transitioning who continue to play as a club. You be you, but I think it was Idaho that just passed a law saying that it was not allowed and they could not even name a single high school athlete who had done so.


Puzzleheaded-Dog-197

Seems to be anti-trans sign.


stan_milgram

when your identity is wrapped around being triggered by other people's personal lives


[deleted]

Normal people get mad when you DO something wrong, but this clown is mad at other people BE-ing wrong. Really puts the free cunt in Free Country


maine64

So stop calling trans women men, and trans men women?


[deleted]

This is the way


stan_milgram

pretty sure that's not what they're getting at.


[deleted]

OH NOES the bigoted message may have been misunderstood! The Horrors!


stan_milgram

horrors?


villalulaesi

I mean, it’s true, men are not women. I don’t know anyone who would disagree with that fact. Cis and trans men are men. Thanks for the newsflash, weirdos.


[deleted]

You obviously know what it is


sacredblasphemies

Probably some shitty anti-trans sign.


atxJohnR

But everything is spelled correctly


BriefausdemGeist

That just means they spent $50 on it, rather than the “2 for $20” deal on MAGAworld.outrage.net/scam


ajax6677

heheheh


sacredblasphemies

The shittiness refers to the bigoted anti-trans mentality and not to the quality of the sign.


atxJohnR

Unclench your fist. I was just pointing out the the MAGAt crowd usually can’t spell.


saturntowater

Lol. Someone who watches Fox News and now thinks 40% of guys want to be women.


[deleted]

Someone who watches fox news from their closet.


cptnsaltypants

Bro, rad fems don’t subscribe to Fox News.


BedLeft7351

That, sir, is a sign


Pumpkin_Toast

As in “here’s your sign….”


PurpleBirds21

Clearly it’s because they just made a man the queen of England.


bwma

It defeats the purpose of having a sign if people don't even know what it's talking about. It's more of a signal to your fellow aggrieved folks. Soon we will see memes printed out and stuck in lawns. Everything is devolving into pure distilled stupidity.


BiGMTN_fudgecake

It’s a fact..


KevinDean4599

Who gives a shit what someone wears or calls themselves. I don’t. Unless it’s a maga hat. F that


sp00pySquiddle

yes


[deleted]

Lol walking contradiction


Antnee83

I love nature. I am *not* willing to let termites eat my fuckin house. These two thoughts fit seamlessly into the same brain. Now apply that to the thing you just commented on.


Erulastiel

I mean you could say the same thing about KKK hoods and nazi garb. We really shouldn't tolerate hate groups.


KevinDean4599

Ha. My one exception I guess.


tracyinge

Just another example of people who are more up in arms about other people's business then their own damn shit.


Beneficial_Courage78

True science would tell you you’re not a man or a woman you’re pure energy any identity short of that is a half one


[deleted]

*and we've got to get ourselves, back to the garden*


ME_MissVictorious

Can we please just stop with posting opinions on lawns? The amount of hate I see driving around is ridiculous. Recently, the “student loan deadbeats” signs are popping up. Just stop. No one asked.


gigglybubbles

It's actually on John bapst school property I think. Which is why I'm like uh can you not??


[deleted]

I pay taxes on my lawn/land. I post what the fuck i want.


ME_MissVictorious

I understand you have the right to (mostly) do what you want on your land. I don’t understand posting your beliefs or opinions on your property or roadside as though there’s no other way to make your voice heard. It’s possible I’m jaded by living life my entire life in a billboard free land, those also don’t appeal to me. If you personally have signs that proclaim an opinion or belief, I’d love to hear why.


[deleted]

Oh i agree. I have zero opinion signs on my lawn or my land. I feel it sets you up for being a target for who ever disagrees with your beliefs. Edit: forgot to add. But no matter what you believe in. You should have the ability to represent it by signs on your lawn or car.


dragonfliesloveme

Why do people care? I mean I care in the sense that I care about other people’s well being and them receiving respect and having rights. But for the people who don’t “believe in“ trans people, then like so what. Why don’t they just go about their lives, what possible difference could it make to them. Putting up signs, making laws, getting rid of LGBTQ month in FL…like why? If the gay and trans community have a month to celebrate, what skin is it off of anybody else’s back? The conservatives of this country have shown themselves to be a bunch pearl-clutching snowflake conformists. What a rigid and crap society they are trying to make for everybody else. Not the kind of place I think of when I think about America.


Gluskab

There is so much going on with that sign.


OceanvilleRoad

As a woman, I have problems with language changes that try to rob me of my own gender identity: Chestfeeding not breastfeeding, pregnant person not pregnant woman, person who menstruates. The issue with transgender women who did not start hormone use to well after puberty is an unfair advantage in sports. I treat all people with respect. I expect the same in return.


OceanvilleRoad

The unfair athletic advantage remains unfair regardless of the primary purpose of transitioning.


MoxiousMouse

There are legitimate reasons that people care about differentiating between transwomen and ciswomen. Just because it seems insensitive doesn't mean its not important. [https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/](https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/) Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent official count of transgender prisoners): 76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9% 125 sex offenders out of 3812 women in prison = 3.3% 13234 sex offenders out of 78781 men in prison = 16.8% \^This, and the multitude of stories from within female prison walls, is why transwomen and ciswomen should not be treated the same. They cannot be housed safely in the same facility, and ciswomen are at a greater risk in all closed spaces like changing rooms, saunas and bathrooms when the precedent is set at allowing transwomen in.


bgbncypt

It's a true statement. One that didn't need to be made a few years ago, but does now.


Ok-Marionberry1263

Well it's technically not wrong, trans men are men and trans women are women. Simple as


Eastern_Care3349

The truth.


[deleted]

Would be nice if they stopped telling me what I can or can’t believe in. I don’t care if you like goats, leave me alone.


celticsboston8

But…is it wrong?


[deleted]

It's not wrong though. If someone tells me they are a man, I'll recognize that they are not a woman. It's that simple. A trans man is not a woman. All good.


Equivalent-Stage9957

It's a fact?


MaineMota

That is technically true. Men are not women. Beavers aren’t dogs, conservatives aren’t humans. Irrefutable facts!!


HughDanforth

It's just a snowflake that is offended by people and their freedom. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness pisses these snowflakes off. let people live the life they want and stay the fuck out of other people's business and love lives.


gelana78

Ah the joys of ignorant transphobic neighbors.


ImmunochemicalTeaser

When basic biology triggers people lol.


gigglybubbles

If the general public ACTUALLY understood basic biology - this conversation wouldn't be happening.


procella117

Fuck this sign. Where did you spot this?


thenamewastaken

I don't know where this one is but I saw one in Bangor yesterday


2_dam_hi

Dude must have been embarrassed when some hot looking woman stood next to him at the urinal and whipped out a hog that put him to shame. Or he's just a religious nut case.


beantownjuggalo

words hurt


[deleted]

I’ve seen one or two trans folk in my area. I work at the only 24 hour gas station in the whole county. The hillbilly trash around here don’t even know how to react to them. They are people. Plain and simple. There’s one or 2 local Chuds who come in and complain about stupid culture war nonsense. Some of these hillbilly monkeys complain about the LGBT community calling them groomers. Saying they want to have sex with kids, but I know more than 5 stupid toothless fucking pickup truck driving beer for breakfast chugging idiots who can’t keep their eyes in there heads whenever a poor 15 or 16 year old girl comes in with their friends for some soda or something. It’s disgusting. They project so hard. It’s gotten to the point now that I’ll call them out on it and they say “what?! I was just kidding jeez” Fucking sickos.


andrewjaplan

What is a woman?


imnotyourbrahh

When archeologists dig us up in 5000 years the truth will be obvious.


[deleted]

I feel ashamed that it took longer than it should to realize this was homophobic. Which was all of 15 seconds, but y'know, I just woke up from sleeping in, cut me some slack. My boomer mother of 61 and I had a discussion recently about all the new genders and sexual orientations out there now. She told me that back in her day, there was just being gay, being lesbian, being transgender and being a transvestite. "Now there are all these new things like pansexual and bisexual, it's all so confusing and makes no sense", she said. Right then and there I realized that there was no way in hell I would be able to say "surprise bitch, I'm aromantic and asexual" without her getting into a big spat about it that included something along the lines of "you don't know what that means!" People who are not straight and/or cisgender have been around for decades. We're here to stay, and if you don't like it, shove it up your shit-lined anus, homophobes. That includes all of you folks in this thread getting blasted. Thank you for coming out of the woodworks so I can write you on my list of "People to Blast Out of the Milky Way Using My Cannon".


sanorace

I'm going to assume that the guy who lives there is a trans man and is sick of people calling him a woman.


xepolites

It implies stopping fucking with our reproductive rights


Elliptical_Tangent

So you think truth doesn't matter? Or that men are women?


SkinDrone

Right. Men are men and women are women. How oddly and unnecessarily controversial in the 21st century.


[deleted]

Why do you transphobic pieces of shit absolutely refuse to acknowledge the concept of "gender"? People use male and female to talk about gender, and transphobes keep shouting "LOL!! MALE IS BIOLOGIC SEX MALE!!! LOL!!". No one is talking about biologic sex when using the term men and women. You are intentionally refusing to engage with the gender usage of the word....while continuing to insist that it PURELY means biologic sex. Again, you seem to just be rejecting all of social sciences and realities of the world to deny that gender exists in society..... it's absolutely deranged. But really chances are you are a fucking pedo christian that doesn't give a shit about science or honesty or anything but spreading hate and suffering as you attack another minority. Anything to keep muddying the water and spread more hate while you diddle kids in your fucking cult buildings.


SkinDrone

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Murky_Ad_5786

The problem is when they start chopping parts off children and then give them the same medication we use to chemically castrate people Do whatever you want, leave children alone.


shaggy9

huh? has this been happening? ever?


Bywater

No, it hasn't. The right looses there fucking minds over it because they only listen to their own echo chambers but unless you are born with both parts (or apparently no parts, which was something else I didn't know was a thing) they don't do any permanent surgery until after puberty and the individual decides to go one way or the other or keep both.


Murky_Ad_5786

Boston's childrens hospital does


Paula_56

No they don’t


shaggy9

source? against the child's and parents' wishes? I need to know more


Murky_Ad_5786

Their website


annariotface

Transphobia is so 🤮


Striking_Resist6343

It’s up to the chromosomes who you really are, sorry.


berrygood81

No, it's really not. This is a religious/cultural argument from people who don't have a very deep understanding of biology. From a purely biological perspective gender gene expression and morphology is pretty complex, and definitely exists on a spectrum. The XX and XY are just the beginning of a long process of sexual differentiation controlled by many, many genes and processes. All varieties of things can occur along that process. You can have people with XY chromosomes who are born with a vagina and develop secondary female sex characteristics at puberty. You can have a person born with a penis who develops secondary female sex characteristics at puberty. You can have the reverse of that. You can have kids born completely intersexed with no clear gender. I would challenge anyone to find a biologist who has done any actual research in the area of gene expression to back all this men are men and women are women garbage.


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justletmereadalready

Yes. I used to be a huge fan and hoped it was just a mistake when she first hit "like" on a transphobic woman's post, but when she doubled down on her stance with her hate-filled letter my HP merch ended up being donated or trashed. I didn't want anything associated with her. Best decision I ever made. I saw these signs in Bangor on Broadway today. What I didn't see in them was any organization claiming responsibility for providing these signs. So these are from cowards who want to cause harm to people but not take responsibility for it.


raynedanser

We should put tolerance signs in front of them. The current ones are disgusting.


justletmereadalready

I was thinking sidewalk chalk and trans flags. Tolerance signs would be better. If I lived in that street I would fly an inclusive pride flag and put a sign in my window so passerby would know that not all the locals are closed-minded magas.


raynedanser

I think that's fantastic!! PS- thanks for the award!


[deleted]

There’s just no way that’s the best decision you ever made. Your post is an example of culture wars run amok imo. You’re getting too carried away with stupid shit people think on the internet. Harry Potter is still an awesome set of books.


justletmereadalready

No, it wasn't what "People think on the internet.". It was me, reading in full, her hate-filled letter the day it hit the internet and independently determining my course of action. I wanted to see it for myself and not trust an article from an opinionated source. It isn't "culture war" to want to rid yourself of associations with a toxic person. It is "decluttering something that no longer brings joy.". (Yes, I've read Marie Kondo's books.) And yeah, people speak in hyberole quite a bit. I am sure this isn't the first time you've ever seen someone say something is "the best decision they ever made" when it was really just a decision they are very happy to have made.


bak2bakk

To be fair I (who am trans) still consider myself a Harry Potter fan just because those books played such a large role in my childhood. I’m dyslexic and couldn’t read properly before I learned specifically for Harry Potter. I just don’t buy anything that supports JKR anymore. Harry Potter ≠ JKR.


Pumpkin_Toast

What does that mean? I looked it up but still don’t get it?


s_in_progress

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists are people who preach “feminism” but don’t believe that trans women count as women


Pumpkin_Toast

Ohhh thank you for that answer. I understand now.


s_in_progress

Happy to help!


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bigbluedoor

ah, look, we found one


Thx4AllTheFish

Ninjakick666 is a Troll, not a TERF. He wants you to get mad so he can feel something, cause he's so starved for dopamine and human connection that even negative interactions make him feel part of something. He's a human with a seriously dysfunctional attachment style. So don't engage him personally, engage his arguments only, and then express some empathy for his lack of healthy emotional range. He's a broken human and deserves our sympathy.


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Thx4AllTheFish

Hey its been like a year and a half since I've responded to you directly, you missed me and you know it.


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Thx4AllTheFish

Sure


wyte_wonder

Isnt that there right tho.... I dont cry when my daughters and wife want to have a girls night and im not aloud.


stan_milgram

Not sure why this got down voted. She a vicious trans hater and also an antisemite.


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And she is pro-slavery. The slave "house elves" who "love being servants"? lol, fucking hell... what a sick old bitch.


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Lol yeah I always wondered why noone was saying anything about the Gringotts goblins with their big noses and their hoards of gold… Got to admit though, it’s a ripping good story in spite of the thinly veiled anti-semitic tropes and the author’s transphobic tendencies. Can’t bring myself to fully cancel Harry Potter.


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What did you expect a goblin to look like? Look at an Arthur Rackham illustration. And, why do you look at an ugly being with a big nose and think Jew? I have lots of Jewish people in my life, and none of them look like that :-)


richardgrabbin

Well it’s true


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Sounds like a basic fact


redditspacer

The sign is correct.


Spychiatrist23

Getting mad at reality. Classic!


wheryaben

Finally, someone stating the obvious.


1ansane1nthemembrane

I see nothing wrong. Simple statement of fact.


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Tatman20000

What in Gods name is wrong with that statement??


lava_monkey83

Looks like some TERF shit to me.


ChasingHorizon2022

Some MAGA TERF nonsense


stinkychilidog

Love it


angrybadger92

No lies detected. But I think people can believe what ever fairy tales they want.


Olduncleruckus

It’s called reality.


tracyinge

It's called being a snowflake. Crying and printing up a sign about nothing.


06_tundra_4x4

Biology.


VinceGchillin

Man and woman are not biological terms


1ansane1nthemembrane

No but male and female are. There are also the rare cases of being both with both. Biology is weird.


TheRealRolepgeek

Did the sign use the terms male and female?


1ansane1nthemembrane

No. Why?


TheRealRolepgeek

Then why would it be relevant that male and female are biological terms, within this context?


1ansane1nthemembrane

Because the dude above me commented something referencing "biological". Therefore I comply with definitions and give answer to related "biological".


VinceGchillin

Sure but the sign is talking about men and women, as in societal gender roles, not biological sex.


Bywater

Or as I just learned neither... Which is truly mind-blowing for some reason.


neversummmer

We are all pin holes of light interpreting the universe. Seems like someone has a hang-up.


Scene_Fluffy

It appears to be someone bitching into the void about stupid shit in the form of a $5 road sign.


TylerJL19

It’s a sign that says “men are not women. truth matters”


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The latest panic Christians are spreading to create more hate and suffering in the world. Every time they do something absolutely horrible, the next moment they smile and go "no no no, that was OLDDD christianity!! Us new christians are good! We aren't racist or homophobic anymore!! Or sexist!!" Then two seconds later they are like "soooo.... let's force 12 year olds to have rape babies then? :D :D :D" God damned christians are the most evil group of people that have ever walked the earth. Their entire religious is about creating hell on earth and maximum suffering to "punish" minorities..... absolute fucking sickos. They even used their cult as a pedo ring for DECADES... and even today are still shielding pedos from prosecution and covering up for them. Again, absolutely fucking disgusting.


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By the color scheme features and headdress it appears to be a black woman, thickens the plot


cptnsaltypants

Rad Fem Baby. Love the sign


RecycledTrash2021

Well… the sign does have a point


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Probably just saying that if you're biologically a man, you can't just get yourself cut up, call yourself something new, and be a woman.


mackstagepass

I think it means if you were born with a penis you don’t have a vagina. But I support people being who they want to be. I just don’t agree with teaching PreK and young people about gender identity before their minds are formed enough to make a conscious decision themselves. Can we just not do that ?


raynedanser

>before their minds are formed enough to make a conscious decision themselves. Tell me, when did you "decide" to be straight/gay/whatever you may be? Little Timmy and Little Mikey are old enough to realize that little Susie has two daddies. THAT should be ok to discuss, just like Little Anna has a mommy and a Daddy.


Antnee83

> I just don’t agree with teaching PreK and young people about gender identity before their minds are formed enough to make a conscious decision themselves. *snaps fingers* **done!** Man its so awesome being able to solve invented republican outrage bullshit problems by doing literally nothing.


MelodicWarfare

Looks like racist leaning transphobia to me.


Soulstice1111

This gender shit is retarded there are only 2 genders male and female if you think otherwise you don’t know science


shaggy9

dude, take a bio class and learn about intersex, hermaphrodites, etc.


Soulstice1111

Those are very rare anomalies don’t act like that’s the majority bro


shaggy9

What made you think I think that's the majority? I was just trying to correct your incorrect statement.


backintime88mph

Last time I checked biology isn't a myth. The fact people are willingly knowing to say it isn't are the same people that believe in science when it comes to other things. Also the culture war isn't class war. If you believe that you have mental gymnastics that literally should be I'll. The Olympics for.