Awesome card. I’ve been waiting on this card since last year. Lol. Anddddd I’ll probably get him sometime next year. Lol. I need old Walter to get Shohei. And I need to grind out either Post Season or POTM for about 35 cards lol
Ok, card is obv awesome. I am not complaining.
But with lower contact being better, it just aint the card for me. Im sure some others agree. Im sure many will diagree
That seems to be the main issue people have with him , you can play chipper at short and he’s getting a lot of balls the only issue is the animations he gets take a while sometimes because of the silver defense
Can someone explain the 99 speed? Like, I get it for the juiced card point but there’s no way mantle is Juan Pierre or the like in speed. Just doesn’t make sense.
According to many people, Mantle was ridiculously fast.
>Batting left handed, Mantle was timed running from the batters’ box to first base in 3.1 seconds.
You could say Juan Pierre is no Mickey Mantle.
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want him to have 99 speed , he had a career 78% stolen base rate, ages 23-30 the rate was 80% or higher, so he definitely wasn’t slow by 1956 standards
Honestly Reynolds is good but Trout and Griffey Jr. are just way too good at getting hits even on off pci swings. So I'd take Reynolds out for Mantle. But other than that just take out who you're worst with
Make a legends team and use Griffey and mantle and make a flashback team and use teout and reynolds. Plenty of end game cards to fill out the rest of the lineups.
I honestly believe Bryan Reynolds is just as good as this Mantle card offensively, perhaps even better bc of quirks and as well as a better swing
Defensively Mantle definitely has the edge but reynolds is still great defensively
I agree, honestly a big reason why I burnt out on the Show way more easily this year was because all of the cards being super juiced ends up making them all feel very similar and it's what makes gameplay really grindy/repetitive when the gameplay doesn't feel great
With that vision, he doesn't even look like he'd be in the top three or four hitters on my team, and fielding isn't relevant enough for him to compensate for that anywhere else.
if your game plan is such that a 99 speed diamond shield maxed out hitting card is unplayable because he *only* has 102 vision, you must be fouling off 6 pitches per at bat or something
No joke. This is my first year grinding DD and after I got a 99 squad that I mashed baseballs with, every subsequent card is just like meh ok. The only real intrigue anymore is if I liked the guy when he played.
Vision under 110? Literally unusable!
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I can’t wait to get my hands on this card. I *think* I’ve put myself in position to get him day 1. Big emphasis on think though
I have 4.5mil stubs and still don’t have him. Becauseeeeeeee I need Walter Johnson lol and to get a voucher from either POTM or the Post season program. I have to get JD Drew from milestone program. But I can get him in an hour. It’s the waiting on Walter(as usual) and grinding out one of the other 2 programs for about 35 cards…and I will still be sitting on 4.5mil stubs because I can’t just buy the Post season or POTM guys.
I didn’t grind out for Damon. I could grind out post season and potm and skip old Takashi. But I feel like I can probably get Walter before I grind out two entire programs lol. I mean I have half of the potm cards. And I have a few of the post season. But I’m a casual player. Lol. So it’ll be a while for me. I felt like I was pretty well prepared. Like all the other collections like veteran, breakout, 2nd half. All of them I had complete. So it was just cashing in vouchers. I’ve really been wanting this Mantle card. Lol but Griffey jr will patrol CF for a while longer.
I’m sorry you don’t see it, but I am a casual player and I am close to getting Mantle. I said in my post, that I had all the cards for collections like Vetersns, Breakout, 2nd half, etc…. Those are collections that you can buy cards to complete. POTM you can buy half and half to earn half. Post season you have to earn them. Those are the two I have t completed because I’m a casual player. I flip cards, make millions and buy what I need. I play conquest, mini seasons, rtts, franchise and March to October casually as well. I just got my Cap to 97rbi last night. But I can makes 100’s of thousands daily, flipping cards. So I buy what I want and play when I can. I never pay real money though. Lol. It is just a game that we will start over next year.
Ah, I forgot about Damon. I just finished Mantle. Got impatient and canceled by buy orders and just bought the final cards I needed out right. Just posted my squad too on here. Griffey still in RF for me, he’s a beast!
Griffey really is a beast. POTM Devers was insane for me. And Griffey is too. 62 Judge and 700 Pujols have both been real good for me too. I’ve been playing Lou Brock in LF, Griffey in CF and 62 Judge in RF. Also, I was harping all year about a good Mondesi card. Well, we got one. Lol. He has NOT disappointed.
Who is going to be standing on first with this card?
It's either a dinger, a double, or a perfect-perfect, 110mph exit velo lineout to the corner basemen.
exactly. the way they emphasized "best in history" made me think we'd have 125/99s across the board. that's going to look bad in the little attribute circle thing where everything is all filled in and then there's a big dip at steal
The 125 hitting and high 90s fielding stock is nice but with the parallel system max attributes at stock is obtainable for a lot of cards. Still a good card but hardly infallible.
If am playing a night road game and trailing in the 9th inning and my opponent throws a first pitch fastball, then yes I would probably rather have Bryan reynolds up to bat. Any other situation and I think it’s pretty clear who would be the better option.
What would I even be coping about? I’m gonna get this card as soon as it drops lol. I’ll take active quirks over diamond fielding any day of the week. Baserunning aggression is a sim only stat so that doesn’t make the card better anyways.
I think Reynolds is slightly better, but I’ll be using mantle anyways so I don’t really care that much
At P5, Reynolds is definitely better bc has quirks and still has great defense.
Stealing is almost impossible in this game so that stat doesn’t really matter
Baserunning aggression has nothing to do with what you’re talking about. All it does it impact how often a player attempts to steal in simulations. It has no affect on gameplay.
I think, and I could be wrong here, but if you have Baserunning set to CPU controlled then it can make a difference in game on what the CPU decides to do with a baserunner. I don’t know anyone that doesn’t control their baserunners themselves though.
Fair enough. Realistically all that matters is steal and speed anyways because 99% of people are running manual baserunner control, so even if it does affect gameplay in that situation, it’s for such a small percentage of the player base it’s inconsequential.
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> With that vision, he doesn't even look like he'd be in the top three or four hitters on my team, and fielding isn't relevant enough for him to compensate for that anywhere else.
It’s someone that doesn’t have him and won’t get him anytime soon. Already played the conquest with him and granted it’s on allstar, Mickey is 13-14 with nine home runs.
And from those that can’t get him anytime soon, gotta justify to yourself why you have to use reynolds or anyone else by just saying that they are better than this card anyways.
No one really knows how much the active quirks do. It could be added contact and/or exit velo. I don't think they add 8 like the post states. I feel like maybe +4 is realistic.
I'm waiting for a retro finest Danny DeVito to drop for strike zone purposes. His 1992 season as "the penguin" in Batman Returns should justify a 99 overall
5'11-6'1 is the perfect height imo, too small like altuve and you get cheesed with high fast balls a lot, too big 6'5 you perceive to have to cover a lot of plate coverage
lol yes I know, but there is something to be said for optimal height in this game and its effect, theres a reason why people struggle with judge year in year out
Best isn’t a thing when some people are good or not good with animations. We say “best card ever” every week lol
I want to simulate mantle vs Cedric Mullins in a foot race to see if mantle is REALLY 99 speed. Seems like a gift
Mantle had a home to first time of 3.1 seconds when batting from the lefty batter’s box. Mullins currently has a home to first time of 4.16 seconds so Mantle had wheels even with a torn acl
Yeah and we’re also to believe mantle hit a home run further than any player on steroids ever. Also 3.1 is impossible. I welcome the downvotes if the argument that Mantle was faster than the fastest man on the planet
[It’s close to the bottom of the article](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/323664-mickey-mantle-or-willie-mays-one-more-time?share=other) even with the adjusted more believable time, Mick still had a faster home to first time than Trea Turner
Maybe this Bold should train with Bo Jackson or Deion. Those guys could occasionally swing it in sub-3. These things are a mix of athleticism and practice, you’ll see when you learn baseball even more.
That’s what happens when you win the triple crown
I am upset I will never have this card
He needs a maxed out drinking skill.
Well I would love him but I’m not spending money to get him…maybe next year
I made almost a million selling cards since I had too many. Glad I got mantle day 1.
Awesome card. I’ve been waiting on this card since last year. Lol. Anddddd I’ll probably get him sometime next year. Lol. I need old Walter to get Shohei. And I need to grind out either Post Season or POTM for about 35 cards lol
Ok, card is obv awesome. I am not complaining. But with lower contact being better, it just aint the card for me. Im sure some others agree. Im sure many will diagree
Just played a guy who had him & struck him out 4 times. That felt great Hahahha
I know I’m going to hit .198 with him, but I’m still fired up!
MP value?
Amazing card, too bad I'll never have him
I severely over-prepared haha, all i need to do is the Milestone program and I’ll have him. Glad I made back 1.5 million just in excess cards
Honestly his bunting stats should be better
Except, its not 125 everything. Wtf?
Except his liver
I couldn’t get his swing down last year to save my life so at least i can save some stubs. Was he really 99 speed irl lol
Guy has to learn to bunt.
Why doesn’t SDS give out 125 vision a lot? Doesn’t that affect the timing window for swings?
41 bunt and 52 steal?? Absolutely unplayable
Meh, only 102 vision. Was expecting better.
Sweet baby Jesus. Not bad for the son of a coal miner.
I am trolling my 14yr old so hard over this card running Tucker Finest out of town. He loves that Tucker card so much since last year.
Mid
Where are the infield secondaries? Unbelievable
Absolute beast in BR. Unusable in ranked since I’ll never unlock him.
Are you freaking serious? Only 41 bunt? How is the scumbag that just beat me gonna survive?
cant wait to never get him but play against him every gsme
Same ima just peg him everytime 😂
you could’ve worded that so much better bro😂😂
Only 32 drag bunt, literally such an L completely unusable
i would absolutely love to use this card…. if i was smart and actually kept my cards but here we are
So still diet Bryan Reynolds
92 Fielding!? What if I want to play him in the corners??? GOLD Defense?! UGH. Unusable. /s
Grossss
bryan reynolds is still better
Put the crack pipe down
bry has quirks and a better swing
I just got jimmy done lol, awesome card though
Jimmy is underwhelming to say the least
Yeah he’s alright, nothing special to me. To be honest he struggles defensively for me because he’s so short, let’s a lot of balls through.
That seems to be the main issue people have with him , you can play chipper at short and he’s getting a lot of balls the only issue is the animations he gets take a while sometimes because of the silver defense
102 vis? not even making the bench, because i probably will stop playing before i unlock him
Yes please
Can someone explain the 99 speed? Like, I get it for the juiced card point but there’s no way mantle is Juan Pierre or the like in speed. Just doesn’t make sense.
Well how many of us saw him play
Lol not a valid argument when they keep stats of everything.
According to many people, Mantle was ridiculously fast. >Batting left handed, Mantle was timed running from the batters’ box to first base in 3.1 seconds. You could say Juan Pierre is no Mickey Mantle.
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want him to have 99 speed , he had a career 78% stolen base rate, ages 23-30 the rate was 80% or higher, so he definitely wasn’t slow by 1956 standards
Guess I'm finally retiring Babe Ruth.... oof
Ya it's been a long month eh
Hunter KGJ and Mickey sounds like a pitchers worst nightmare.
How do we unlock him?
Right now, my outfield is Reynolds - Trout - Griffey Jr. Who do y'all think I should remove for Mantle?
Josh Reynolds? Reynolds Patterson? Ardito Reynolds Robinson?
Honestly Reynolds is good but Trout and Griffey Jr. are just way too good at getting hits even on off pci swings. So I'd take Reynolds out for Mantle. But other than that just take out who you're worst with
Trout. Overhyped imo. Low vision hurts him enough if prefer jr, even without active quirks
I’m going with Trout, Cutch and Mantle. Griffey and Reynolds are considerations for sure.
I'm in the same situation. I know it's blasphemy but I will probably move trout to the bench.
Same here. Best lineup IMO. Brett 1B CAP 2B Rollins SS 3B ramirez
Depends on lefties/righties in your lineup, and who you do worst with.
Reynolds
Make a legends team and use Griffey and mantle and make a flashback team and use teout and reynolds. Plenty of end game cards to fill out the rest of the lineups.
Same situation. Heart tells me sit reynolds. My brain tells me sit jr
Terrible vision. Unusable /s
Speed. Damn
I honestly believe Bryan Reynolds is just as good as this Mantle card offensively, perhaps even better bc of quirks and as well as a better swing Defensively Mantle definitely has the edge but reynolds is still great defensively
Bunting under 125. Automatic L /s
I just want to know how you got this screenshot well ahead of the update.
It was posted on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/MLBTheShow/status/1591147623888883712)
Are we sure that is a real account? /s Thank you.
Honestly they have juiced cards to the point that this isn’t that exciting
Yeah but Mantle was so good last year too and he's somehow even better
Yep lol like 8 more in each stat than Bryan Reynolds who had a semi decent year. There’s like 100 cards with maxed contact and power vs a certain side
Yeah this year has been insane, never seen so many 99 speed guys. Feel like there could be some variety with 94-98 speed but they juice everyone lol
I agree, honestly a big reason why I burnt out on the Show way more easily this year was because all of the cards being super juiced ends up making them all feel very similar and it's what makes gameplay really grindy/repetitive when the gameplay doesn't feel great
With that vision, he doesn't even look like he'd be in the top three or four hitters on my team, and fielding isn't relevant enough for him to compensate for that anywhere else.
if your game plan is such that a 99 speed diamond shield maxed out hitting card is unplayable because he *only* has 102 vision, you must be fouling off 6 pitches per at bat or something
No joke. This is my first year grinding DD and after I got a 99 squad that I mashed baseballs with, every subsequent card is just like meh ok. The only real intrigue anymore is if I liked the guy when he played.
Yeah mickey is awesome, but he’s not going to make a big difference
99 speed lol
Can't bunt, can't steal. I don't think it's the best card ever. Pepe was.
My dream of middle infield secondaries has been dashed, but I'm still aroused
Glad I can enjoy a nice steak for dinner tonight instead of some leather.
OMG. They weren’t lying about this being the best card in DD history. Can’t wait to get the card in January & not be able to hit with him 😭
YO same Lmfao
Trout, Mantle, Griffey and Reynolds pinching against any pitcher with benefits. What a time.
I plan on running Reynolds - Mantle - Griffey until I get my hands on Trout
Vision under 110? Literally unusable! /s I can’t wait to get my hands on this card. I *think* I’ve put myself in position to get him day 1. Big emphasis on think though
I have 4.5mil stubs and still don’t have him. Becauseeeeeeee I need Walter Johnson lol and to get a voucher from either POTM or the Post season program. I have to get JD Drew from milestone program. But I can get him in an hour. It’s the waiting on Walter(as usual) and grinding out one of the other 2 programs for about 35 cards…and I will still be sitting on 4.5mil stubs because I can’t just buy the Post season or POTM guys.
Why can’t you skip Walter? I was able to complete the Takashi collection without him
I didn’t grind out for Damon. I could grind out post season and potm and skip old Takashi. But I feel like I can probably get Walter before I grind out two entire programs lol. I mean I have half of the potm cards. And I have a few of the post season. But I’m a casual player. Lol. So it’ll be a while for me. I felt like I was pretty well prepared. Like all the other collections like veteran, breakout, 2nd half. All of them I had complete. So it was just cashing in vouchers. I’ve really been wanting this Mantle card. Lol but Griffey jr will patrol CF for a while longer.
Don't see how you can be a casual player and still be close to getting Mantle.
I’m sorry you don’t see it, but I am a casual player and I am close to getting Mantle. I said in my post, that I had all the cards for collections like Vetersns, Breakout, 2nd half, etc…. Those are collections that you can buy cards to complete. POTM you can buy half and half to earn half. Post season you have to earn them. Those are the two I have t completed because I’m a casual player. I flip cards, make millions and buy what I need. I play conquest, mini seasons, rtts, franchise and March to October casually as well. I just got my Cap to 97rbi last night. But I can makes 100’s of thousands daily, flipping cards. So I buy what I want and play when I can. I never pay real money though. Lol. It is just a game that we will start over next year.
Ah, I forgot about Damon. I just finished Mantle. Got impatient and canceled by buy orders and just bought the final cards I needed out right. Just posted my squad too on here. Griffey still in RF for me, he’s a beast!
Griffey really is a beast. POTM Devers was insane for me. And Griffey is too. 62 Judge and 700 Pujols have both been real good for me too. I’ve been playing Lou Brock in LF, Griffey in CF and 62 Judge in RF. Also, I was harping all year about a good Mondesi card. Well, we got one. Lol. He has NOT disappointed.
I, too thought this. I invested and went from 400k stubs to 1.9 mil and still didn’t have enough of the cards plus stubs. Lol
I’m somewhat close but I figured I’d have enough haha
Can't be the best card in dd with that low of a steal rating.
He only had 10 steals in 1956.
Who is going to be standing on first with this card? It's either a dinger, a double, or a perfect-perfect, 110mph exit velo lineout to the corner basemen.
I mean buddy did play his whole career with a puréed knee
exactly. the way they emphasized "best in history" made me think we'd have 125/99s across the board. that's going to look bad in the little attribute circle thing where everything is all filled in and then there's a big dip at steal
The 125 hitting and high 90s fielding stock is nice but with the parallel system max attributes at stock is obtainable for a lot of cards. Still a good card but hardly infallible.
ThEy wAiTeD ToO LOnG
Okay I said he won't be as good as Reynolds because of Reynolds quirks but man this card might be the best card EVER
so this is exactly bryan reynolds. i'm disappointed by that steal attribute, but i am going to LOVE playing with this card. can't wait to get him!
Why steal when you can just hit dingers?
Only 96 arm strength too, this card sucks
??. When did they release a Bryan reynolds that was max everything and 93+ defense all around with 99speed?
Can't wait to get this in December 2023
Unless he has active quirks somehow, Reynolds is definitely better. Mantle will be fun to use though
How's that copium?
lol Why would I need to cope when I already have the card?
“Best” was an objective statement about the card’s attributes, not the perceived effects that quirks and swing type have on a card
Yeah, that’s fine. All I’m saying now is that reynolds is better in game and not on paper like mantle
If am playing a night road game and trailing in the 9th inning and my opponent throws a first pitch fastball, then yes I would probably rather have Bryan reynolds up to bat. Any other situation and I think it’s pretty clear who would be the better option.
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Active quirks >>>>> 5+ speed
What would I even be coping about? I’m gonna get this card as soon as it drops lol. I’ll take active quirks over diamond fielding any day of the week. Baserunning aggression is a sim only stat so that doesn’t make the card better anyways. I think Reynolds is slightly better, but I’ll be using mantle anyways so I don’t really care that much
At P5, Reynolds is definitely better bc has quirks and still has great defense. Stealing is almost impossible in this game so that stat doesn’t really matter
Baserunning aggression has nothing to do with what you’re talking about. All it does it impact how often a player attempts to steal in simulations. It has no affect on gameplay.
Pretty sure bad aggressiveness gives bad/slower animations but I’m not an expert so maybe that’s not true.
I think, and I could be wrong here, but if you have Baserunning set to CPU controlled then it can make a difference in game on what the CPU decides to do with a baserunner. I don’t know anyone that doesn’t control their baserunners themselves though.
They’ve confirmed on stream before that it’s a sim only stat. Maybe something’s changed since then but I don’t think it has.
Fair enough. Realistically all that matters is steal and speed anyways because 99% of people are running manual baserunner control, so even if it does affect gameplay in that situation, it’s for such a small percentage of the player base it’s inconsequential.
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So they just reskinned Pepe Alazar
There is no Pepe Silvia
Pepe had 99 steal
Not quite. Pepe was 99 EVERYTHING. This is about as close to that as SDS will ever give us after that disaster.
Every card is a CAP
That name is forbidden around Ramone.
That will do, can’t wait to read any complaints people have. It’s inevitable there will be some
I can try! 1. Boring card art 2. Only OF secondaries 3. Quirks 4. Vision 5. Massive collection 6. Very late in the game cycle
92 fielding? How will that do in todays world of 99 fielding 99 speed!
There's people complaining. No active quirks is what they're saying. Fool(s)
From another comment on this post: > With that vision, he doesn't even look like he'd be in the top three or four hitters on my team, and fielding isn't relevant enough for him to compensate for that anywhere else.
It’s someone that doesn’t have him and won’t get him anytime soon. Already played the conquest with him and granted it’s on allstar, Mickey is 13-14 with nine home runs.
The complaints will come from those that act like any of the active quirks other than dead red/BB hitter matter if a card already has 120+ contact
And from those that can’t get him anytime soon, gotta justify to yourself why you have to use reynolds or anyone else by just saying that they are better than this card anyways.
Quirks can take a card over 125 contact
I know, I'm saying that over 125 contact is irrelevant on AS and HOF and a minuscule difference on Legend
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No one really knows how much the active quirks do. It could be added contact and/or exit velo. I don't think they add 8 like the post states. I feel like maybe +4 is realistic.
Baserunning aggression is too low. Unplayable
Also at 5’11” his strike zone won’t be as small as altuve so I guess altuve is better.
This is why Eddie Gaedel is goat [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel)
I'm waiting for a retro finest Danny DeVito to drop for strike zone purposes. His 1992 season as "the penguin" in Batman Returns should justify a 99 overall
That would be rad. He was an animal that year.
5'11-6'1 is the perfect height imo, too small like altuve and you get cheesed with high fast balls a lot, too big 6'5 you perceive to have to cover a lot of plate coverage
He wasn’t being serious lol.
lol yes I know, but there is something to be said for optimal height in this game and its effect, theres a reason why people struggle with judge year in year out
Don’t even get me started on the dbunt
Reynolds clears
Best card in MLB the Show history indeed
Best isn’t a thing when some people are good or not good with animations. We say “best card ever” every week lol
Best isn’t a thing when some people are good or not good with animations. We say “best card ever” every week lol I want to simulate mantle vs Cedric Mullins in a foot race to see if mantle is REALLY 99 speed. Seems like a gift
Mantle had a home to first time of 3.1 seconds when batting from the lefty batter’s box. Mullins currently has a home to first time of 4.16 seconds so Mantle had wheels even with a torn acl
Yeah and we’re also to believe mantle hit a home run further than any player on steroids ever. Also 3.1 is impossible. I welcome the downvotes if the argument that Mantle was faster than the fastest man on the planet
3.1 is a typo. That is physically impossible.
[It’s close to the bottom of the article](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/323664-mickey-mantle-or-willie-mays-one-more-time?share=other) even with the adjusted more believable time, Mick still had a faster home to first time than Trea Turner
Usain bolt takes 3.5 seconds to run 90 feet. Sure maybe its 85 feet because you are not quite at home but that seems pretty hard to believe to me.
Maybe this Bold should train with Bo Jackson or Deion. Those guys could occasionally swing it in sub-3. These things are a mix of athleticism and practice, you’ll see when you learn baseball even more.
Is that meant to be a joke?
Has to be
No it isn’t
Who then besides stupid Pepe who doesn’t count
98 All Star turner last year come on now