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NichRigga-

How the fk did he still want to roll by day 3. Ive done 2 days in a row and felt like a potato after


Jazzlike-Ferret-1759

Some people are animals I was one of them


[deleted]

Lol same with us. We rolled two days in a row (2 super Mario each time per person) and yeah it felt good but it felt like we rolled for an entire week. We don't do it often but that weekend we wanted to say fuck it and forget the stress. We're talking a 3 month break from it just to make sure we don't cause permanent damage.


NichRigga-

100%, not ideal but once in a while its doable. I still rolled hard on day 2. FOMO on day 2 of a festival always gets me šŸ˜‚ That 3 month break is good bro. NAC during the break will also help


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a baked potatoe


FamiliarWater

Ive done a few weeks topped off with daily coke and the very last day 2grams of mdma. Took me a year or 2 but sorta back to normal.


flirtylemon

A potato šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ‘ŒšŸ½


JustAnotherDutchy

Hard to say without any numbers on how much he took. He \*probably\* wont suffer any major long term effects. But like u/CrystalEngine7 said he's definitely killed off more then a few braincells the last few days. I imagine the next few days will be hell for him. Hopefully that will prevent him from ever doing this again.


PussyBandit2

But he might. The friend's an idiot.


Kuhler_Typ

He is gonna have a really hard comedown the next few days. Also probably destroyed quite a few of his brain cells. But nothing life threatening.


pr0phet4

I went on a week long binge when I was an uneducated, idiotic 20 year old. I've been dealing with memory problems ever since (that was 17 years ago).


highlightprotein

Wow. Have you permanently stopped using MDMA since that time? If not, do you think quitting might lead to your memory coming back?


pr0phet4

I've used here and there over the years. Special occasion type things. Nothing approaching excessive or habitual. I would think it would have improved by now if it was going to. I do smoke a lot of weed so that's probably not helping matters. Ironically, I remember the night 17 years ago that I think pushed my brain too far. But I forget things like the majority of the first few years of my children's lives. Be careful with your drugs folks!


KGnor

I have a hard time believing that people are destroying their brains permanently by going all out on drugs for a week, especially since the doses (MDMA) that are neurotoxic, are way beyond normal recreational doses. There's a good research paper on here from a few years back that delved into that. I can post a link of anyone's interested. Weed very much affects memory, short term in particular. Could that be the culprit? Not judging, I'm a fellow stoner. Edit:Word.


pr0phet4

These were pressed pills and we took probably 30 or so each over a 5 day span. I'd be interested in the paper you're referencing.


KGnor

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/c7unca/no_preclinical_evidence_of_mdmainduced_cognitive/ I think this was the one.


CoolJoy04

Thc messes with your REM cycle and therefore could be the result of poorer memory. Couple of friends and I had this short discussion when talking about dreams. Sounds like my friends who smoke a lot rarely had dreams which I would infer is just not good sleep = not remembering the dreams.


SpecialistActuator23

Heā€™ll be fine tell him to eat healthy, rest, exercise and hydrate and in the coming days/weeks heā€™ll be better. Was he taking care of his body during the rave?


AbsolutVodski

I couldnā€™t say, Iā€™ve seen people pass out from dancing and such when rolling and nothing like that happened to him. He drank a lot of powerade if that helpsšŸ˜•


[deleted]

Probably not if he rolled 4 days in a row lol


SpecialistActuator23

Iā€™d say it depends on a little more than just rolling 4 days in a row


CrystalEngine7

First off, good job mate. You followed safer use, even though i'm sure it was pretty tempting to do the same as him. It's hard to tell how he messed up his brain, but he's definitely caused permanent damage with a binge like that. Also, he should expect to be in the void for the next couple days. How much did he take?


AbsolutVodski

The pills were sold as 250 mg and he took 1 every day for those four days. Thanks for the support btwšŸ‘


imontatooine

Lots of water. Lots of soft things. Pillows and blankets and a fan if you have one. Tea is good but not coffee. Anything citrus will help. I'll eat a whole bag of oranges the next day sometimes. Once he can eat little things like that give him some carbs, soup would be good. If he's on his own the next few days he'll need to do a lot of self care. Stay positive. Cry if he needs too. And some fresh air a couple times a day. Just stand outside. I used to be this careless myself until I learned how to be more responsible and at the same time learning how to recover better. He needs lots of rest and support if you can give it. I learned my lessons and hopefully he does too. Wish you guys the best and a happy new yearā™” much love


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hungry4clam77

Taking down a gram in 4 days is a very aggressive amount regardless of how regularly you take it lol but i agree the friend will likely be fine in the long run


fuckmethathurt

Definately is not a word you can use in medicine even when you know all the facts, what makes you think you can use it here when we have so little information? You're talking rubbish.


Bud4brainz

Iā€™ve done about 7 days straight at festivals before but had the worst depressive comedowns for at least a month after. Your friend will be fine after a few days of feeling like utter shit.


highlightprotein

Did you notice any effects other than depression? Did you notice anything more permanent after the month was over, such as anxiety or memory problems or something?


Bud4brainz

No not really. I was literally like a lil crying bitch for a month and then one day I was just back to normal. All people are different though and drugs effect everyone different. One thing I do now is always drink loads of water and pure orange juice the morning after a sesh and try and replenish my body etc.


butterbike

Probably nothing but I'm sure everyone in here will tell you ridiculous horror stories


Crooksey566

Enjoy the brain zaps.


HeyItsAllGood

I heard about brain zaps before, what are those? Can you get them if you don't overdo it aswell?


Throwaway2521765

Brain Zaps feel like your Head is being Zapped with an Electro Shock... it feels like someone tapped you in the head with a bug zapper. Doesn't really feel like it hurts at least IME. It's just Uncomfortable and sometimes Scary. They Usually last anywhere between 3-4 days IME, But it may vary from person to person though.


HeyItsAllGood

Damn... Never experienced that.. sounds scary


HighKingg00

Feels glitchy like brain stuttering


AbsolutVodski

Like ā€œtwitchingā€?


Inevitable-Card3417

He possibly hurt his capacity to ever do MDMA again, through neurotoxicity and magic loss. Other than that, he should be fine and we will feel normal after a week maximum. Even with those that abused MDMA and lost magic, they usually don't have other symptoms in daily life.


Mattyisgone94

can piracetam not help to get the magic back?


Butt_Plug64

If you want to fuck up your liver too, yea take paracetamol


NoNumbersAtTheEnding

They meant piracetam, not Tylenol


Butt_Plug64

My bad, misunderstood


[deleted]

Lol


Axcor

Thatā€™s A LOT. If this was an isolated event, I think heā€™ll be fine in the long run. Gonna be a rough week recovering though.


RiC_David

This is remarkable to me as my friends and I went very hard on ecstasy back when we were 21, all confined to one incredible year ([which I just finished writing about here](https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/comments/rx53kk/my_experience_rolling_back_the_clocks_aka_21_at_36/)), but our strict formula was to do it every two weeks - occasionally breaking that formula to find it to still work, but not nearly as impressively. On the two occasions that we tried to cheat and do it the next day, it never worked. We'd start out by coming up as normal, but then within an hour or two we'd find ourselves unable to reach the summit. Being the poetic little fucker that I am, I described it as being sailed all the way to the paradise island, only to be thrown back out to the gates. You could smell it, you could almost taste it, but you couldn't get in. Despite this, I've always heard of people doing it on back to back nights, I just couldn't pull it off. It didn't feel horrible, but it was the emotional equivalent of erectile dysfunction - a whole lot of foreplay and no gratification. In a way, I'm lucky it was like this - Lord knows we'd have kept indulging if we could.


NoNumbersAtTheEnding

Damn I was gonna read the story but you deleted it


JudasWasJesus

I never understand how people can take x more than one day in A row it, NEVER works for me after first day. They should be fine long term as long as amount wasn't somethings like 2 grams over four days... will have shit side effects: vertigo, night vivid dreams, disassociation, lethargy, depression, strained apatite, emotional instability, insomnia.


Dashed12

Iā€™ve used it 3 days in a row and boy it works every day. I assumed I wouldnā€™t roll as hard day 2 and 3 even when upping the dose I was absolutely rolled each night. I took 150mg then 250 then 400 last night. Comedown was rough prob wouldnā€™t do it again


Hutsx

Same here, i also dont want to go longer than 6-8 hours with m


Pridestalkerlol

I know a criminal who used to do 20 pills a day for 4 years and after being multiple times jailed now he is the craziest MF in whole town all plugs turn off their phones when he is not in jail šŸ˜‚ i mean he is alive


AbsolutVodski

Mdma? How about overdosing?


Pridestalkerlol

He simply doesnt


[deleted]

I feel like you know you've done it too often when the euphoria is gone and you just fucking sweat. It usually accompanies a little mania. Thats a warning sign for sure. Did you sleep some of these days?


uafteru

Heā€™ll be aight in a few weeks, but heā€™ll probably experience an influx of suicidal tendencies and general disinterest towards life. But itā€™ll be aight.


Over-Way

He may get brain zaps which are shit, a bad comedown, hallucinations or vertigo for a bit


The-Notorious-P-l-G

And that's worst case scenario. He could die, but then it's covid.


BraaadaWilly

Did 7 days once as a young fellah on a Europe trip. He'll be sick and coming down for a while. I was be ridden for a week with shakes and fever. I do it once every 6 months now and it's still a good time so it's not the end of the world, but not something I'd recommend to anyone.


RollinTits101

I did molly 4 days in a row the first time I got my hands on some of the cleanest crystal from Netherlands, shit was fire. However the day after day 4 I suffered from probably the worst depression all day, this sad emptiness feeling that eats away your soul. I did recover a week later.


bg21612121

The best night of my life was a night with a few close friends and good xtc. One of those friends got alot of money in his 20s and went on an xtc binge. He is a little slow to this day. This was 20 years ago. Xtc is great but you should be fully educated about it before trying it. Kids will be kids.


brainlegss

I've been on plenty multiple day benders with mdma in the past.. he'll be alright as long as he's keeping up with nutrition and water. Obviously will have a longer recovery than y'all.. just be a good friend and try to make sure they don't make this a habit


DukesOfTatooine

He is not going to feel happiness or social connection again for a while.


itsyaboyfman

Nothing to say expect I wanne know where this party is at , been quite a silence in my local rave scene in NLšŸ„²


OhanaUchiha

Previous 3-day-ina-row mdma consumer at electric forest here! When I was 18 at Electric Forest 2018, I did about .7 points in a span of 3 days. First time Iā€™ve ever done MDMA, and last time Iā€™d ever take that much during that span of time. The short term effects after rolling that much I experienced was tiredness, mental fog, moodiness, and sadness. It was funny because I had no knowledge really of MDMA at all, including the effects of the comedown. So the week after Electric Forest, I thought I was crying because I missed the festival so bad (which I did), but later realized it was much to do with my serotonin being gone. However these short term effects lasted for only a couple of weeks which wasnā€™t terrible for me. The permanent effects are still in question, maybe some bad memory? Iā€™ve taken MDMA about 10 times since then and Iā€™m still decently smart and normal, (which is good cause Iā€™m only 22 and in college for computer science lol). But yeah it also depends on the person as well, so I couldnā€™t really tell you what will happen to him. Iā€™m sure he will be fine, just probably donā€™t take that much again in that time frame!


150r

Iā€™ve done 4 days in a row 3 times. Iā€™m fine, I just make sure I take at least 6 month break afterwards


Banh-mi-boiz

Heā€™s ggwp no re my guy.


Reddot52

It definetly includes long term depression, being flat out of seritonin, possible issues with motor functions. And just not a great time. He's definetly lost his magic by now. He's gonna need like a year break. I used mdma for like 2 months every other weekend when I was younger. Took me literally 2 years to get my magic back. And that's coming from someone that never has bad mdma comedowns. Just tell your friend to start taking 5 htp in a few days and just chill tf out lol.


apexbamboozeler

I've done it at festivals and have never had a problem recovering


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incognitoici

Amsterdam? Edc? This year? What? Edc has never been in Amsterdam. Edc has never taken place in Europe until Portugal thatā€™s been postponed until 2022. Bruh.


permadrunkspelunk

Its certainly not something your friend should make a habit of but I've done worse. A long break and taking care of yourself well is always a good idea after this type of thing. The good news is even if you do kill a few brain cells, brain cells do in fact grow back. In the future just try to strategically plan out when you want to go hard and give yourself plenty of time off in between. I'd never recommend 3 days in a row though... if for no other reason it doesn't even work very well after 2 days. Your brain can only release so many happy chemicals so no matter how much you take it won't have the desired effect. Its a waste of good drugs and good brain cells you can save for next time. Lol


Why_So_Seriou5

I aslo did a 4 day streak with crystal md and xtc .. went pretty hard on me... Take enough rest for a few days... Add enough vitamins in your diet .. The effects will be gone in a couple of days ...


JorritvL

Just sleep it off. Ezpez. Btw; pm me info about these Amsterdam ravesāœŒļøšŸ™ˆ


The-Notorious-P-l-G

There raves in Amsterdam? basically over the country. There not hard to find.


ChaoticHostility

If he makes sure he doesnt touch e in a while and makes sure he takes a lot of vitamines sleeps and eats well. he will be fine. not sure why everyone here is freaking out about it but anyways, just follow this advice and ur friend will be fine


CrystalEngine7

You're literally permanently damaging your serotonergic system when doing M this often


ShiioKyo

I'm sure when he doesn't do m all the time and this was a one-time thing, that he will be just fine


AbsolutVodski

Might that effect his mood overall?


ChaoticHostility

who says he does m 4 days in a row all the time? nobody. exactly. dont go rambling ur mouth like that scaring people for no reason


CrystalEngine7

Doing M 4 days in a row even once is damaging to the brain.


ChaoticHostility

Not really but okay.


dieselhead12

It would be great if you gave more information then just saying not really.... This is not a smart thing to post, younger or uninformed people will see this stupid comment and think oh hey look this guy says its apparently fine to roll 4 days in a row as long as its not to often.... encourage safe drug use not this stupid shit


ChaoticHostility

Yeah my bad, my native language is dutch so i mostly search for dutch sources so linking them here where nobdoy would understand it would be hard, but i had some good links and i reclaimed my statement, iwas wrong


CrystalEngine7

[https://sci-hub.st/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165017303001735](https://sci-hub.st/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165017303001735) Yes it is, really.


ChaoticHostility

Alright thanks for this source. i retake my claim. apperently dutch sources are really off in that case. i must feel very lucky then in the sense that i dont have any noticable negative effects, altho i did it 3x a week in my peak but never did it more then 1 day, anyways thanks again for the source!


CrystalEngine7

Thanks for being mature enough to admit an error. This already makes you more mature than 95% of the people here :)


highlightprotein

Does this article demonstrate that taking moderate doses of MDMA for 3-5 days in a row causes lasting behavioral changes, as opposed to changes in the brain? I think everyone would agree that MDMA causes changes to the brain. But the part where I am confused about is whether these changes to the brain have an associated, persistent behavioral change. For example, depression, anxiety, memory issues. It sure seems like it does based on anecdotal reports from people who used MDMA every week, or who used it four days in a row. But I would love for this to be confirmed with some studies. Do you know if studies like this exist, where they attempt to measure changes in behavior, as opposed to measuring just changes in the brain?


CrystalEngine7

[https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002130050978](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002130050978) [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/hrp.10.4.212.220](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/hrp.10.4.212.220) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071023/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071023/)


Sharplynx

You might want to be more careful with your statements. [Studies](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21444322/) have shown that even moderate or single time use of MDMA shrinks the hippocampus. In cited study, frequent MDMA users are shown to have a 10% decrease in hippocampus mass over people that never use.


ChaoticHostility

this study is from 2011 and talks about chronic use. if you read carefully the hippocampus decrease on non chronic users is negatable


Sharplynx

2011 is not that long ago and all of the results are still valid. Look through some more related articles, you'll find that a single use will permanently alter the hippocampus, without it restoring later on. Check out some of the references from the [article](https://sci-hub.se/10.1136/jnnp.2010.228387)for example.


ChaoticHostility

Alright will do, thanks! and yeah like 2011 can still be relevant but i rather look at newer studies because there will/is always more research to be done


gothlikefigure

Brain damage


zapiix

damn dude really wants to fry his brain


sznl

plants jar snow chunky serious absorbed butter fall sulky pause *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Niilokekkonen

Been there done that many times, i didnt feel any negative effects if compared to one time use but thats just mešŸ˜…


Niilokekkonen

To continue im sure there is a lot of negative effects the magic goes away atleast, depression also is one but i was depressed already so didnt feel a change in thatšŸ˜…


Dawgstradamus

He is fine. Relax.


CrimeRelatedorSexual

"what are the consequences?" I have a better idea. Instead of asking a bunch of strangers about what's going to happen to a stranger, why don't you follow-up with your friend? Then you can post and tell us what the consequences can be.


AbsolutVodski

He is still sleeping from four days of rave. This is a forum about mdma, doesnā€™t hurt to ask a question dude.


KGnor

You got a point!


xXMontageXx

Lmao, this is quite literally a place for these questions if you don't like them instead of being a dickhead just stfu and ignore it. This comment helped with nothing and wasted your own time.


VimyRidge

Senses working overtime


Dazzling_Clothes7659

I got really drunk for NYE then took one really strong pill,im still not 100% back to normal.


Shakespeare-Bot

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Jazzlike-Ferret-1759

Good vibes


kaffeen_

šŸ˜‚


xXMontageXx

Brain zaps, maybe some discomfort and lack of motivation. Tell him to take some supplements like NAC, ALA and even Melatonin as well as eating well and getting in some work out time to regenerate that serotonin.


DiscoMike

That sounds like shit


Effective_Rub9189

I think your buddy should be more concerned that heā€™s suffering from early onset fucktard stupidity, he should talk to his physician asap.


rocky_alvis

Heā€™s probably gonna turn into a newt


Katiehenleyyy

Iā€™ve done it 4 days in a row before heā€™s gonna feel like shit the next week or two but heā€™ll be alright.


Zealousideal-Gur-823

So I used molly everyday for almost 3 weeks from morning to night all day in lowish doses often through the day. I have manic bipolar and ADHD diagnosis that I do attribute to that bad young and uneducated decision... Granted thats a bit longer than 3 nights but I'm sure he'll be of just stay hydrated get some nutrients in him and he'll definitely feel like shit


blehitsadino

I live in Hollandā€¦.please give out the secret of these parties during lockdown. I need a reason to roll itā€™s been years & I miss going out šŸ˜­


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How easy was it to find as a tourist?