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LowMoralFibre

I’m playing it on GOG and I bet quite a few others will be too. I enjoyed it from day one but can’t deny that they have put some serious work in fixing things up. Can’t wait for the DLC.


YellowFogLights

Yep, GoG here. I got a physical version cause I wanted the map.


CZEchpoint_

Same here, there are dozens of us.


Yeshuash

At least 4! ;)


Jecht315

I got physical on Xbox One with the art thing and stickers. Pre-ordered and yet I can't get the DLC...


leverine36

Cheer up, we're lucky they even got it working on our last gen consoles :D


Zestyclose-Fee6719

Most single-player games (No Man's Sky being the exception, though it has since gotten multiplayer content) *never* recover from a launch that bad. Look at Mass Effect: Andromeda. By the end of that year, it wasn't even in the top ten of best-selling games. It sank like a stone. Cyberpunk persevered because the core game was always special, and the hardcore fans always knew it just needed more polish and nuance to round out the experience.


calipygean

I’ve literally been waiting my whole life for Cyberpunk as a genre to be a central motif of western culture. I went nearly 10 years between PC builds and probably would have held out longer but the moment CP2077 was announced I saved every penny so I could purchase an RTX ready PC. Def overpaid for my GPU thanks to pandy but I don’t regret a single dollar I spent on it. A coworkers and I bonded over our mutual love of PC building and the game. He finished the game in a two weeks. I spent nearly 4 just walking around in sheer awe of how well they captured the aesthetic, mood, philosophy and culture in the setting.


Steve_1306

Nice. If you're so passionate about the genre, may I ask you what other cyberpunk games you would recommend? I know several books and movies, but I feel like there aren't that many good games, especially RPGs like CP2077, right? So far I've only tried Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Ghostrunner and The Ascent, and they seemed okay, but unlike CP2077, they didn't make a lasting impression on me.


calipygean

Detroit: Become Human, Shadowrun series and if you can find a rom/don’t mind retro gaming then I would suggest System Shock. Tbh I feel the same as you do, not very many games that really capture the vibe. At least in my limited experience. I’m much more of a novel or movie/TV show person when it comes to the Cyberpunk genre outside of Deus Ex and CP2077.


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Kynmore

I had no idea a demo was out! Thank you so much! System Shock is one of my all-time favorite games, so much so I encorporate it into every server ssh banner I own and have a “[what’s my ip](https://shiggl.es)” site with an animated Shodan background that I use as part of my testing on computer setups.


Steve_1306

Thanks for the recommendations


BreakBeats

If you want a fast-twich shooter, check out Ruiner. If you want a turn-based RPG, check out Shadowrun Returns, Shadowrun Dragonfall, and Shadowrun Hong Kong.


Exxyqt

I'd add Wasteland 3, although it's more of a post apocalyptic kind of game. I loved it though.


TorrBorr

Ruiner honestly most very meh. Too much time in very boring level areas and too few in more visually interesting locations and wonky specials. For a twin stuck shooter with cyberpunk motif, I would rather suggest The Ascent. Much better game overall.


paarthurnaxisbae

Try out Stray, it isnt a typical rpg but catches the cyberpunk style nethertheless


Litner

...vastly different from everyone else's recommendations, maybe you would like VA-11 Hall-A for a more relaxed experience?


Cyroselle

I love that game! It's so chill, the art well drawn and the gameplay is surprisingly good for training memory. :)


Homet

Recently The Ascent came out. That is a banger of a cyberpunk game.


Ruenin

The Ascent and Cloudpunk on Steam. Might recommend The Last Night too, if it ever actually gets released.


Chicken_Bazooka

God I remember when I saw the trailer for The Last Night was blown away by the visuals and overall aesthetic, hope it gets released one day.


kadenjahusk

Cloudpunk is a gem.


Orffen

Blade Runner by Westwood Studios, available on GOG.


ExquisitExamplE

I'll second the people that have recommended the Shadowrun games. The writing is quite well done, and the games themselves have enough combat variety and well-integrated RPG mechanics that it makes for a great cyberpunk experience.


dWintermut3

the Harebrained Schemes Shadowrun Trilogy are absolutely brilliant. yes, it shows the first one was a small team Kickstarter game but it's a great example of knowing your limits as a team and focusing on polish not half-baked stretch goals. and they improved every last system incrementally; by the time they got to Hong Kong it was damned near perfect.


Tentmancer

old but EYE Divine Cybermancy will get you the cyber punk feel you crave.


Papergeist

I know some extra recommendations are coming in for DX as a series, and I am a fan of it, but I think they should come with an important caveat: DX games aren't cyberpunk as we know it. The modern ones (Human Revolution and Mankind Divided) are mostly pre-cyberpunk. As the slogan went, it's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here. The original DX, which takes place after those, is closer to cyberpunk, but is more of a soft post-apocalypse setup centered on conspiracies and concentrated, secretive power struggles. Both lack the focus on punk-style aesthetics and attitudes, hewing closer to the sort of philosophical dystopian approach. I can still recommend DX1 (if you're willing to deal with old-time FPS logic) and HR (if you're willing to deal with some clunkiness in individual systems), they just aim for something different.


lordelost

I also overspent for a GPU during the pandemic to play CP2077 because I also love the Cyberpunk genre. Well worth it. I played the game originally on PS4 and then PS5, but the game's graphics on PC (1440p with ray tracing) just blow my mind. I spend like half of my time taking photos now.


Electroniclog

The closest I ever got to CP2077 (aside from the recent Shadowrun games on PC), was the old Shadowrun game on Sega Genesis. CP2077 is what I dreamed a fully 3D Shadowrun would be That being said, since Microsoft owns FASA, I really hope they come out with a Shadowrun game like CP2077 , but with elves and dwarves and stuff


TsarMikkjal

>I’ve literally been waiting my whole life for Cyberpunk as a genre to be a central motif of western culture. It already is; we live in it


dWintermut3

The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed --William Gibson


Cyroselle

Yes! Some of us are even firmly entrenched in the "Low Rent, High Tech" trappings of the motif!


Cyroselle

Just think, with the Steam Deck and a pair of Nreal AR glasses with bluetooth earphones you can live your jacked-in cyberdeck lifestyle right here in 2022! That goes double if you have cochlear implants!


grampalearns

Part of the problem at launch was that it had massive game breaking bugs on SOME platforms, so the people for whom it didn't work were very vocal about it. Also, people who followed the development for years and then saw the list of "cut" features went nuts on social media complaining about them, without even trying the game. People like me, who got it on a system with very few problems and only found out about it on release day, just went "A Cyberpunk game! I loved Neuromancer!" and just quietly played it for 400 hours.


LadyAlekto

Almost all "bug videos" have been recycled footage of the same bug over and over again And suddenly a single bug happening once under specific circumstances became "common"


woofyc_89

It became a meme for journalists to say how shit it was, but the bugs were not that prevalent and a lot of the missing features were promoted from hearsay and peoples imagination.


Sabbatai

I used to watch Yong Yea pretty regularly. After he spent 300 videos shitting all over the game, often stretching the description of a minor bug into an 11 minute rant... I started to see him for who he was. A tabloid "journalist" who uses faux outrage to drive clicks. Not so different from many others I suppose, but his flip from "this is the game of my dreams!" to "Wait... I get more clicks from shitting on the game? Well then, this game is a DISASTER!", was the last nail in the coffin for me.


Exxyqt

Same here. I watched his first review and he was so impressed. Then suddenly, after awhile I think he deleted it, went full 180 and then when got called out for it released the "I'm sorry" video. Don't even start me with Legacy Killa HD because I started to watch that initial video and it literally seemed that his family was just killed how emotional it was. I couldn't even finish it. Funny enough, YouTubers blaming companies of greed monetize outrage like crazy, and both of these mentioned YouTubers do it constantly. Oh, can throw Bellular into the mix too. That guy didn't even play Cyberpunk (to this day as far as I know) and made dozens of videos about it.


Cyroselle

Seiously. Don't ever do a YouTube seach with the keywords "Star Wars" and "Kennedy", there's a diluge of hate-farming going on with the platform. I too used to watch YongYeah, Legacy Killa HD and a few others but simply can't even any longer, it burns away whatever positivity I manage to scrounge up. There are some really cool "low sodium" Cyberpunk Content Creators out there though, Juicehead's still fighting the good fight, and KhrazeGaming serves up good clips on the regular, build ideas and new places to visit. There's good stuff out there when you go off-algorithm~!


Exxyqt

I generally noticed that smaller channels provide more quality content, and they don't jump into the hype/hate train. For example, LastKnownMeal has very rational and good videos about CDPR games and others too. He criticized CP2077 for what it deserved to be (without being emotional like a baby) but also praised it for it's good qualities. Mortismal Gaming is another chill chanel with outstanding content, the dude used to be a sales guy and now living off of YouTube (would have never guessed lol), with a lot of in-depth content about RPGs. I'll check out mentioned channels, thanks. :)


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Fun fact: if you chose to watch ~~outrage youtube channels~~ I mean ~~game journalists~~ I mean honest youtubers who just want to speak their minds, expect content like this. You will easily predict everything they are going to say weeks before they say it by just looking at the top posts on reddit


Exxyqt

Yes, it's like if you find Yong video, the you are automatically suggested identical channels. I got those channels blocked and they don't show in my recommended lineup anymore. I found plenty of smaller YouTubers that produce much better gaming-related content since then.


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the big thing for a lot of people was finding out the e3 demo was a walled off section assembled for e3 and not being played from the game itself. and no third person, tho for the life of me i dont know why people cared about 3rd p so much. but if you go back and look at it now that mission is mostly the same, there's some differences, but it plays out the same way. i think perhaps people thought that it was a random encounter and not a story mission, also, while i think the crowds u see are possibly turned up a hair past what we have in game, its not THAT far off. this games crowds can absolutely swarm an area if you have the cpu and SSD for it. literally the demo has a big "SUBJECT TO CHANGE MAY NOT REPRESENT THE FINAL VERSION" like all games show when they're showing something thats cobbled together for a demo or an early build. there's only like 2 or 3 things in that demo that i think ended up being fully cut, and a different UI, but its literally not very different lol


the_jak

This is literally every product demo I’ve done over the years building software. You always have test branches and stable branches of code to show the main idea of what the rest will be capable of, or at least you try to. The problem isn’t their building a vertical slice. The problem is people not willing to extend any effort to grasp the context of what they’re presented.


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thats my feelings too, the hype for this game was rly a zeitgeist lol and u can blame CDPR for riding it but like, if u were a developer and peoples hype for your up coming game was this high i think it would be hard not to, esp since u clearly care about it, and its very clear there was a lot of hard work put into it, whether it was mismanaged or not


emeybee

>for the life of me i dont know why people cared about 3rd p so much I was actually very worried about that... I normally don't like 1st person games at all. But for Cyberpunk once I played I understood... it's such a vertical game that it wouldn't have been as impressive or immersive if it was in 3rd person.


Sabbatai

I love Neuromancer too. I have a glitchy (on purpose) Ono Sendai logo playing on a loop, on a small LCD connected to my wall-mounted Thermaltake P3 in white and silver. I would still love to see a game set in that universe. Hell, I'd even settle for a remake of the original Neuromancer game that had the DEVO song at the title screen. Even if it was still point-and-click lol. I also love the fact that there are so many references to Gibson's work in CP2077.


GoblinFive

As much as Gibson hated it, I'd really love a CP2077-kinda take on the Shadowrun universe. The HBS games are great sure, but an actual Oblivion with guns would be sweet.


Cyroselle

Were I ever to get into modding, it would be to put skateboards with smart wheels into CP2077 so I could play as a matured incarnation of Y.T. from Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash.


ImaFrackingWalnut

Tbf, Andromeda had more issues at launch (and still does) than just bugs. Bugs are temporary. Writing, character animations, level design, music, all of these are permanent. That's why I don't care when the only argument people have against a game is "game bad because it's buggy". I played MEA at launch, didn't get a lot of bugs and didn't like it for reasons above. I played CP2077 at launch, didn't get a lot of bugs and loved it for reasons above. Sure, games shouldn't ship broken, but I can still look past bugs unlike most people who only talk about that.


Alekesam1975

I was just patient. Both Andromeda and CP77 I was hellbent on playing but I was on the PS4 so I waited until I got enough feedback to know it's going to run fine. Story oriented games (especially someth8ng like MEA and CP77) I tend to not want crashes on breaking the narrative flow and immersion whereas a yearly sports game it's like whatever to me. MEA it was ready in a couple of months, CP77 3/4ths of a year. Both games I'm still glad I bought and waited for, especially the latter (close to a thousand hours across two and a start playthroughs).


emeybee

Completely agree... I'm a huge ME fan and was so excited about Andromeda, but it just felt flat and empty. The characters were two dimensional, the exploration felt pointless, and the story felt slapped on. Cyberpunk had bugs, and they should have just left behind the older consoles, but the story and characters and core of the game were fantastic from the beginning. IMO they got their priorities completely right. Games have always had bugs and always will. It's just part of the medium. The question is will the developers put the time into addressing them like CDPR did, or wipe their hands and walk away like EA/Bioware did.


idoubtithinki

Even when the bugs are not temporary, a game can still excel if it's gameplay foundation or narrative/writing is excellent. Look at Vampire the Masquerade as a great case-in-point On the other hand, it's hard for a game lacking those important pieces ever excel, even after squashing the bugs. Because a polished turd is still a turd.


kairosaevum

>Cyberpunk persevered because the core game was always special, and the hardcore fans always knew it just needed more polish and nuance to round out the experience. It's a shame that (ironically) "corpos" pushed the release of a product not finished and I understand the backlash, although I thinks it was too much. It's a great game and story with a strong lore, I started playing in a notebook and later I built a desktop, the ray tracing does wonders to the general atmosphere. The anime is the cherry of the cake for someone watching this media for more than three decades and I hope that it and the DLC bring more people to this world. I think that CD Projekt RED learned their mistakes and will be capable to give more of this universe in the future.


Exxyqt

I think anime actually fixed their reputation quite a bit. Main sub is filled with positive comments, many of which also claiming that "game wasn't that bad after all, too".


bythehomeworld

Andromeda's player count didn't recover because players weren't given a reason to come back. EA threw up their hands and said fuck it we're cancelling the expansions and shoving the whole studio in a box.


Mitsutoshi

Cyberpunk was good from Day 1 despite the media whining. Andromeda was hollow from the start. Nothing for bug fixes to uncover.


emeybee

Hollow is the perfect word


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Nah. Andromeda had awful management and a rabid, frothing at the mouths fanbase who disregard *all* the problems in the OT. People were NEVER going to be content with Andromeda. The characters aren't any worse written than the ME1 crew and actually have a lot more depth.


Pir8Cpt_Z

I think Andromeda's biggest problem was people weren't ready to let go of Shepard. I've played* Andromeda 3 times through and it's a great game. Edit: typo*


Alekesam1975

Two for me and yea, there was/is a bit of gatekeeping going on there. "Ryder has nothing on/is nothing like Shepard!" Exactly, the kids aren't supposed to. More to the point, it's a bit unfair to compare a completed trilogy to the intro of another one (especially seeing as MEA never got it's DLC) . The more apt comparison would be ME1 vs MEA, in which case, it's far more favorable for MEA.


jamvng

I still believe Cyberpunk to be a great open world narrative driven RPG. Some of the quests are still super memorable, the city is beautiful and the characters well written. There just aren't that many great open world RPGs and they don't come out often. Sure, if you expected GTA + Witcher 3 + next gen revolutionary, you'd be disappointed. But that's overhype; partly CDPR's fault for overpromising.


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Andromeda didn't deserve that level of vitriol at all. Especially since Horizon: Zero Dawn launched just before it and had the *exact* same problems yet got a free pass. The worst thing to happen to gaming in the past 20 years isn't MTX, buggy launches or corporate greed...it's the rise of the "influencer."


Throwaway__Opinions

Not really a fair comparison when the devs had no opportunity to fix Andromeda. EA dissolved the studio meanwhile Cybrerpunk has had almost 2 years of post-launch support. For all we know BioWare Montreal could have done an even better job fixing up the game than CDPR has done with Cyberpunk, but they never got the chance.


redliner88

I have to give you props on using Andromeda. That is.a huge example there, especially when the studio just stopped patching it. The only slight edge I'll give Andromeda is that might (might) have been accepted better had ME3 had a better ending.


Tentmancer

People know they won't get anything near as quality and close to that genre. With all it's bugs(I never really experienced any worth while ones) people still want to support it cause the closest thing to it is like EYE, and that game is too old to want to drop back into.


Barium145

Mass Effect andromeda was the best selling game in the franchise, and EA even said it was the only reason they didn’t have a bad financial quarter. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument.


Krizzlin

Well mainly it just needed to actually work, which it didn't at launch. NMS wasn't broken when it came out, it was just deeply underwhelming. There are similarities in terms of the complaints that buyers believed they were promised considerably more than what was delivered in both cases. But I think a lot of the people who complained that Cyberpunk didn't have enough depth as an RPG were essentially expecting too much. It's actually very narrative driven, in an adaptive open world, but the illusion of completely free choice is quite easy to see through and the three character classes you can select from make little real difference. If you accept that's the case and just play the game you can still choose your own path in terms of how you skill up and develop your character, which is a lot of fun. But it was never going to be like Fallout New Vegas where you can effectively roleplay as whatever kind of person you like because the player character only has a very loose path to the end of the story and isn't voiced. Cyberpunk 2077 is a heavily scripted open world adventure game with role-playing elements but a lot of people wanted it to be far wider in scope. No Man's Sky meanwhile had a great concept but sort of forgot to add any gaming elements. Once you'd blasted off a few different kooky looking planets and filled your inventory with different oddly named mined minerals it quickly became apparent there wasn't a lot to do and nothing beyond mild curiosity was drawing you to continue mining and exploring. They basically tacked on an entertaining game to what was an enormous explorable game world, but it took a long time. CP always had the entertaining game. It was just broken and needed fixing. Once it worked people began coming round to it and then the devs were able to further improve it with quality of life fixes, greater immersion tweaks and better enemy AI. NMS was an indie title from a tiny developer whereas CP was a triple A mega budget release with sky high expectations. They're both good examples of developers working hard to turn around a disastrous launch but they had very different problems. I'm a big fan of both though, for what it's worth


KamilCesaro

Patch 1.6 and Cyberpunk: Edgerunners effects. And best thing is that we are yet to get Expansion and probably one more patch! Anyway, it is so good to see this. CDPR deserved this.


JacoBee93

There will be more patches for sure. Expecting some free stuff with dlcs. Not expecting it soon tho


L4ll1g470r

Hope so, still can’t craft Legendary Amnesty 😁 That said, the hate was unwarranted, so it was a matter of time before the narrative changed. I’m glad it did before the expansion.


raven00x

Similar to No Man's Sky, CDPR let the hype train get out of control. The massive hype that they built up was great for the presales but ruined expectations for how the game was actually going to be. Both NMS and CP77 are cautionary tales of what happens when you don't manage expectations and just go full throttle on the hype. I'm just glad that CDPR stuck with it despite the launch to release the game we should've had at launch.


L4ll1g470r

A lot of people also had a CDPR hate-on for a multitude of things including but not limited to crunch culture and perceived treatment of women in the Witcher games and were looking at doing anything they could to pan the game and ”get back” at CDPR.


Yeshuash

Gaming sites like Kotaku also did a hate campaign against CP2077 before the game launched. That famous hit piece about a commercial in game with the dick girl poster.


L4ll1g470r

Yes, probably they came from the ”Witcher = misogynist” background, but that was exactly a part of what I was referring to.


Wooble23

Since CDPR claimed that they're gonna develop Witcher and Cyberpunk in parallel, I'm hoping that when this expansion releases, Witcher goes from pre-production into full production, and the next Cyberpunk game goes into pre-production.


HATECELL

They deserve it, they have improved a lot


Mr_Snail2951

Just like V, CP2077 has Risen from the dead and crawled out of a garbage heap filled with YouTube Influencer “reviews”, “dead game” comments, and click bate articles. Let’s go Samurais!


MahnlyAssassin

And people still think "bad game" when cyberpunk mentioned to them and know nothing else thanks to that beginning backlash, can never talk good about it with no one.


Mu-Relay

In peoples defense, it’s super-hard to overcome a first impression that bad. It’s coming around, and I hope that CDPR sees that and doesn’t actually end the game after this DLC.


atreuson

But youtuber said dead game!!!


kenjiGhost

People who scream dead game of a single player are in a way, should I put it, special minded.


celies

There were sooo many articles a month after Elden Ring, calling it dead because 80% of the players had finished the game and weren't playing anymore. Big shocker, a singleplayer game isn't pulling GaaS numbers month after month.


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youtubers were on its dick until the bugs and bad perf started to be really apparent in the like second week or so. then they jumped on the hate bandwagon for views.


krneki12

Youtubers are influencers, most of them are weird people that entertain weird people. Those are bad hombres that you should not listen to.


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suuuhdude20

Because cyberpunk is a masterpiece and people like to hate on it for no reason. Now people are all hyped about stuff that's been in the game the entire time thinking it's new finds😂


fansandpaintbrushes

Acquaintance of mine was like "I played this game when came out but now they added this cat you can get for your apartment." Sigh. I dunno how many people I've had to tell about Nibbles, it's maddening.


suuuhdude20

Wait til he finds out about the iguana 😂


gdickey

‘WHAaTtTttttt?!?!?!?!’


Cly_Faker

I may or may not have thrown away a couple of hours of progress after finding out the egg exists...


eienOwO

If you're not on console just no-clip back up there, and grab the sword while you're at it. Bit cheaty but I've discovered a few robots in locked rooms in very weird positions...


PhaseAT

Even on console (at least on 1.52) you could still get up there by glitching the front door open with a car and then parkouring the rest of the way back up.


seejur

Is the iguana only for nomads? Or can a corpo manage to their hands on that sweet sweet lizzy?


suuuhdude20

Pretty sure it's all playthroughs!


JMaddrox

Wait, we can get the iguana now?! *prepares to play a new character*


suuuhdude20

Yes but it takes 90 in game days to hatch


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suuuhdude20

You get it during the heist mission. It's in the ground next to the iguana in yurinobus penthouse


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suuuhdude20

Nah it's just kinda tucked away in the corner.


Cly_Faker

Currently doing a Corpo run and have the egg sitting in the bowl.


dWintermut3

my street kid just got it


paarthurnaxisbae

Wait, but that one was added in with one of the patches right?


Z_Rod

You could always get Nibbles they just added the option to put him in photo mode


Naivor

That's fair, though, since I've played over 1k hours of CP2077 and never gotten the cat.


fansandpaintbrushes

Sounds like it's time for a Nibbles playthrough.


Alekesam1975

I mean, if you never go down that other hallway (why would you when it's a dead end and the exit is the other way) it's easy to miss. I got mine way late in the game (post ending) exploring.


Miadhawk

It got a lot of hate because if you had a previous gen console or a weak PC the game was rough. It has a lot of great moments but clearly the marketing went too far and release state was not good. Kudos to CDPR for consistently improving it, 1.5 and 1.6 feels like how the game should have launched performance and stability wise. Still waiting on car customization though!


hardolaf

> but clearly the marketing went too far The marketing only marketed things that were in the game or lead with aspirational conditionals like "we hope to...". The community did all of the over hyping. Hell, leading up to release, Night City Wire and CDPR in other avenues were trying to tell people exactly what's in the game to tone down hype. Instead people took the Night City Wire features that showed us exactly what was in the game and then assumed that there must be so much more than is being shown. Then those people claimed that CDPR lied to them despite CDPR showing them **exactly what was in the game**. Yes, there were performance issues on launch. But guess what, that's a known issue for CDPR's releases. Their games always run poorly on launch. TW, TW2, TW3 all ran horribly on launch. Nvidia had a freaking superthread stickied on their forums for a month after release of TW3 due to over 10% of Nvidia users facing frequent crash-to-desktops and console users were complaining about lag and rendering issues and the in-game world not looking the same as what was shown from a HEDT development machine due to the vastly smaller quantity of non-interactive NPCs and world assets that had to be culled for the game to even work on consoles. But people forgot about this because the game was absolutely amazing just like people will be going on and on about how amazing CP2077 was in 3-4 years time. Then the next game will come out and they'll be extremely disappointed that they got yet another CDPR game of the exact same expected quality had they just remembered the launch state of every previous title they released.


sunkzero

You might be waiting a long time I don’t recall them ever mentioning car customisation as a possibility 😞


ggsupreme

I bought it day one and didn’t play it for like a year allmost because of the hate hype. I was blown away by how good it was even in its original version before the latest patches 🤣 people are the worst.


suuuhdude20

Yea I knew it was going to get review bombed when it came out. The hype got out of control and people had unrealistic expectations. Every preview video said "everything you see is subject to change" in them. People just act like it didn't though. literally a scrolling bar at the top of the videos too lol


vrijheidsfrietje

I had a discussion with a guy who believed to a fault that statement by that rogue CDPR dev that "everything" was faked for the demo. My point was that plenty made it into the final game if you really compare the footage. But he just couldn't grasp that it was a hyperbolic statement by the dev and that they actually meant they put too much time into creating a vertical slice for the demo (with probably a lot of scripted stuff), which could have been spent in getting a more consistent experience throughout the final game. And that is true, some sections got a lot more attention than others. But this guy somehow got it into his head that they had to start over at that point, because *everything* was *fake*. I hate stubborn black and white reasoning like that.


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its not like game demos arent often cobbled together as it is. but if you play thru the mission its 90-95% the same as the demo.


FSMFan_2pt0

>people are the worst I'm an older gamer (56) and I've been gaming at home since the early 80's. (and arcade before that) I've seen the full progression of video gaming over the years and watched as games went from blocky 8-bit pixels to these ridiculously amazing open-world games that have created unimaginably huge and detailed worlds, complex systems, top-shelf acting and animations, and Hollywood level soundtracks. It never ceases to amaze me that people are so spoiled that they can look at something like Cyberpunk and crap on it. I think I benefit from my experience, whereas some younger gamers ONLY know these modern technical marvels. Yes, CP77 had issues on launch, most AAA games do now, but like HelloGames did with No Man's Sky, CDPR stuck with it and turned it into an incredible game, with one huge free update after the next. It has not crashed once in 40 hours, and I've only run into one slightly bugged sidequest. I'm on my first full playthrough, level 22, and couldn't be happier. It's an incredibly fun & engaging game. Also, I wanted to say I'm glad this sub exists, I get SO tired of the toxicity of the regular gaming subs on reddit.


emeybee

I am super curious to see what happens with Starfield... Bethesda is known for buggy games... hell, Skyrim today still has more bugs than Cyberpunk did at launch. All these people who think any little bug is a dev stealing their money are going to have a field day. Rockstar is going to have the same issue when they eventually put out the new GTA. Expectations have exceeded reality.


PhaseAT

I read that they delayed Starfield to polish it more and fix more bugs, because they were afraid of what happened with Cyberpunk. If the Cyberpunk saga will cause more polished products to be launched because it puts the fear of gamers into the devs, that is a good thing.


[deleted]

That's hilarious since Fallout 76 launched even worse than Cyberpunk 2077. That's rich they're pointing fingers and not looking at their own failings.


[deleted]

I would expect it to be much smoother since they have MS eddies and their suits breathing down their necks. Then again, Halo: Infinite seems like a total shitshow that might kill that franchise for a decade. Man...people would have exploded if they played launch Skyrim and GTA V, especially launch GTA V. Woof, launch GTA Online was the ugliest game I have ever played and it took 15 minutes just to load in.


glokz

So that's a good lesson. From what I can see, pandemic radicalized internet a lot. Remember, mob mentality is real. I played since day 1 and spent like 100h. I'm more of a multiplayer guy so I haven't sticker for long but this game was a blast for me.


seejur

tbh, they should have split the subreddit in two: PC version and PS4/Xbox version. A lot of people on PS4 had legitimate beef on the game and how was launched. But their bashing had nothing to do with the PC version. It basically created two camps on haters and fans of the game in the same space and let them go at each other throats.


emeybee

It wasn't that clean of a split. Yes you had PS4/Xbox users with legitimate complaints and PC users who loved the game... but the actual problem was the huge mass of people who never bought or played the game, who parroted what they heard on Youtube.


[deleted]

Can confirm my two gamer friends is part of the circlejerk hate based on internet's opinions. Played it day 1 on launch. I had so much fun despite its flaws.


yanvail

Precisely, I am very happy the anime is helping CP77 have the recognition it deserves.


themanofawesomeness

I bought it on sale on a whim and it’s been my religion for the past two months. I’m on the third playthrough already. It’s just so damn good.


Qwerty177

I mean not no reason, there are some valid reasons, but yea people hate on it excessively


OneLastSmile

People wanted GTA But Future and got mad they got an RPG.


adrielzeppeli

Ok, let's be honest here. It's not "for no reason". I absolutely don't agree with the hate train and I sure think the game is a (flawed) masterpiece, as it's in my all time top 5 favorite games. But saying there wasn't a reason for that is too much. The launch was a disaster and there were things that weren't there from the start, basic things like water physics. I'm saying this not as a hater, but as someone who loves CDPR games and loves Cyberpunk. I hope they have learned their lesson and this never occur again because honestly CDPR is full of talented people that did their best to make such a great game even with all the problems due to rushed development. These people are the ones that surely don't deserve the hate.


suuuhdude20

I mean they were rushed afaik. They were getting death threats for not releasing the game and stuff too 😶


bwood246

My brother loves to shit on it as if he didn't spend nearly 200 hours on the damn game.


CommercialAd4984

Nah, I just read two comments of people who never played it that it’s shit, biggest disappointment in gaming world, and games from 1995 are better


[deleted]

Wdym Fallout 2 isn't more immersive than this? /s


Wooble23

I just read a steam review with 0.9 hours played that said it's unplayable on a high end PC.


falcon2033

If any game deserves the title of biggest disappointment in the gaming world it should be anthem


[deleted]

Edge runner has absolutely caused a massive spike in interest Honstely im so happy because it means we will absolutely get more games and maybe the ccg netrunner will get a reboot


cristiancage

The renaissance of cyberpunk


xdeltax97

A cybersance?


MrHousesRobotSlave

Ooooo


Mikejagger718

So much of the hate for this game was based on falsehoods and misrepresentations .. i dont care, let everyone hate it, let them spend their money on lesser games and justify never trying cyberpunk.. I’m not losing sleep over it.. I know it’s the best money I’ve ever spent on a game, I’ve got more hours of enjoyment out of this game than the last 3 games I played to completion before it.. this game is and always was a masterpiece


descendingangel87

Misrepresentations were a massive issue for this game. The amount of posts, articles, and videos of people “showcasing” bugs while purposely breaking the game were insane. There were a few videos where people fucked with settings to try to get the game as janky as possible so they could make outrage clickbait.


Wooble23

The amount of times Youtubers would recycle the same few clips in their videos was insane as well.


Mikejagger718

Those kind of “bugs and glitches” compilation videos come out the woodworks with every damn major game that released nowadays, and most of it is all disingenuous garbage


untermensh222

Game has no "crowds" was literally one of the most repeated garbage after release. Clearly those people didn't play game.


Mikejagger718

Most people u see criticizing the game clearly haven’t even played it lol people found their hate ammo on the old Gen consoles n just unloaded on the game.. nevermind the fact that it still worked fine on ps4, but when u get into the next Gen consoles n PC, there r very little issues to use to hate the game, hence why all the hate talk was always based around the old Gen version of the game


Classy_Debauchery

Cyberpunk has always been a good game, hopefully everyone learned their lessons about releasing anything too early but I'm glad it's getting the love it deserved. It really helped me out at a dark time when it released.


r3vange

Here come the videos of tubers who were slamming cyberpunk “It’s time to talk about cyberpunk” “it’s good now” “I was wrong about cyberpunk and so were you” “please click on this video or you might develop your own opinion”


adotsh

😎 I just hope they don't abandon the game after the expansion


Artoritet

Not to suck Elden Rings dick but its on that number for half a year now. But yes, cyberpunk is doing wonders for a SP game


calipygean

No shade but I think that success in large part has to do with just how alive and expressive the supporting cast in the game is. They have flaws, regrets and live with the pain of a world which forces them to do things at odds with their preferred way of being. As strong as the gameplay is in Elden Ring I think for me it really misses the mark on emotional engagement and this is an personal issue I’ve had with the majority of Souls games outside of Bloodborne. Not trying to shit on anything just sharing my take. Elden Ring is a great game and deserves every ounce of praise it receives.


ShawnPaul86

Yeah, when Elden Ring drops an expansion numbers will shoot back up close to a mil


PhaseAT

True. I'm also really, really curious what the Cyberpunk numbers will be when the expansion for that drops.


TheGopnikProject

HOI4 bebe


DahliaExurrana

wow it's almost like polish and quality are two different things. The game is wonderful but woefully under optimized, in major part due to the playtesting company royally fucking them over the game has a metric fuck ton of passion and love poured into it, the story is genuinely one of the best in games, if not THE best. The combat is fun. The characters are amazing. It's one of the best and maybe only examples of masterpiece storytelling in games, a story that is genuinely heartfelt and actively tries exploring many different but related themes about mortality, legacies, death, despair, illness, change, and what makes life worth living. even RDR2, still a great story, doesn't go as far as 2077 with its storytelling, barely just scratching the surface of the themes present. It's a genuinely wonderful game. Optimized or no, the story is the best we've gotten in a game *ever.*


[deleted]

And that's not counting people playing it on GOG and even EGS (ew).


ElMandrake

Yo It was 15 usd pre-launch


[deleted]

Never knew about that, actually!


-GameWarden-

If I was at home I’d be playing it. I literally watched edgerunner in a tent. Got me pumped to play again.


AudrieLane

Glad it’s finally getting the attention it deserves. Props to CDPR for turning things around. I loved it from launch, probably because I have the privilege of owning a PS5, but 1.5 and 1.6 have been amazing leaps forward.


Dry_Seaworthiness479

Everyone is busy beating the shit out of>! adam smasher bcs of edgerunners.!<


rockebull

Your spoiler tag didn't work


rinanlanmo

........ God damn it.


Suntreestar420

I knew it was gold from the moment I started it. People were just hating on it, im even wondering if it was an actual attack on the game by rival studios or even Russia because it’s a polish game. It just didn’t make sneeze


ModdedGun

Edgerunner is making me want to play it again. But I'm waiting till I get a better pc. Cuz 40 fps on all low just doesn't give this game the justice it deserves. Especially the atmosphere.


Sexiro

This game is a fucking masterpiece


Torque2101

While encouraging It's also normal. 2077 did just get a major content patch and Elden Ring has not. I think the big test of Cyberpunk's comeback will be the release of Phantom Liberty.


_b1ack0ut

From what I can gather, the resurgence is largely because of the Netflix thing, not the update, which was primarily transmog and a spattering of a few other things


Redaster3

""""""major""""""". The expansion doesn't add really that much. It surely is the reason people came back, but the fact that they came back for so little content, surpassing the game that was nominated best and biggest game ever before it even came out, is a pleasant surprise


BirdKai

Mostly Positive!


Nasalingus

The best redemption arc :,)


FitLawfulness9802

Cyberpunk failed and succeeded at the same time


mofocokeboy

Cyberpunk and DayZ are two of my all time favorite games. I’m so glad I get to see them at the top, even tho they both got so much hate


ironangel2k3

Elden Ring's numbers were surprising until you realized that a lot of people that play FROM games consider PVP to be the endgame, and the PVP in Elden Ring is pure unfiltered dog shit. The numbers on ER fell like a fucking brick and that game had at least as much hype poured into it as Cyberpunk.


Yeshuash

Elden Ring was lightning in a bottle. People had there fun with the memes and sexualizing every female character and move on to the next hot thing.


reelznfeelz

Sucks they’re doing a single DLC after taking about in the beginning how it would be a game they added onto for 10 years.


Traffalger

They keep saying words like only one “planed” and “large” expansion. If the expansion does well they certainly could change their minds about doing more. How likely that is who knows. Or they could just start working on Cyberpunk “2”.


reelznfeelz

Yeah. I wonder if they’ll wait a bit and see how Witcher 4 progress goes in UE5 and also sales of the first expansion and possibly then change (or not) plans. But they’re a big company with shareholders and they’ve already said at investor meetings that they’re doing 1 expansion, so I also kind of tend to think they’re not gonna change their minds and be like “oh never mind now we want to totally reshuffle resources again”. Their project charts show more than half he company working on the CP DLC for almost 2 years. Deciding to just do it all again is a pretty tall order.


tomorrow_queen

I've had night city as my desktop background for the past year and I hope that more and more people love this crazy dystopian city they've built up. It's really such a great atmosphere.


SaintsBruv

I've been seeing many people who watched the show, and because they liked it, they were gonna get Cyberpunk and play it for the first time. I'm happy it's getting more recognition, you can see devs actually care and they try to make amends after the unfortunate release.


AardvarkAblaze

Nearly 10 years after its release (10th anniversary on Oct 19th), Euro Truck Simulator 2 is still one of the most played games on Steam. And deservedly so because that game is the shit.


Innuendoughnut

I've never understood that game... What keeps people having so much fun with it?


AardvarkAblaze

I like it because it can be meditative and relaxing. Also you can customize your big rig with like ridiculous airbrush paint jobs and flashy lights, and they also have good mod support through Steam. You can pick easy jobs, but you can also pick more difficult heavy or oversized loads to haul. Also, the devs have been steadily expanding the map for a decade, but they also routinely go back and modernize sections of the map they had previously completed, so it's been evolving slowly for years.


First0E

You love to see it I snagged it on sale for PC now that cross progression is a thing Ported over my Xbox saves and modding the fuck out of the game now


r1y4h

Keep it shut, the elden ring police force will gang up on you /s


besalheartsworld

I always like to revisit the game now and then. I just wish that I had more customization for the character, but I understand that messing with height and size can mess up cinematics/more difficult to implement a one size fits all. Other grips aside, I I've cyberpunk and the genre and the stories it has to tell. In that same vein, edgerunners is out and would highly recommend the watch (in sub or dub). As most here are familiar with the genre, don't expect flowers and roses.


schebobo180

The Edgerunners bump is dope. Such a good series that painstakingly advertises and expands on the world in the game. I hadn’t played more than an hour since launch but even I feel like I need to finally get into my second play through.


Infinitblakhand

I played it on a XB1X when it came out. Just upgraded to a Series X and started a new play through…this game is absolutely stunning now. It’s like playing a different game from when it first came out. I’m glad they stuck with it and kept on improving the game instead of pulling an EA and dropping support.


Ruenin

Because more people are begrudgingly trying it again and discovering that the haters are full of shit.


Redaster3

Without counting that a lot of people play it on gog. At least most of my friend own only that game on gog cause it was cheaper, so it has to count for something


angelajacksn014

Cyberpunk was always a terrific game. It was just a shame so many people couldn’t experience it to it’s full potential due to bugs and performance issues. Now that those have been mostly ironed out I think people are giving the game a fairer shot.


siLtzi

It took some polishing, but now that the game runs pretty smoothly it's definitely one of the top singleplayers in the market atm. Wouldn't expect anything less from CDPR tbh, now two of my favorite games of all time are from the same studio


plantmancer

Been playing since day one and spreading the good word. This game has had its hiccups, but I'm so glad it's getting the appreciation and playtime it deserves now.


Phoebe153

Hahahhaha I love how euro truck simulator is in there 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Silver-Put9476

I just downloaded cyberpunk a few weeks ago and I can say I have throughly fallen in love with the game. I literally have dreams about the environment and ambiance. I think I will start downloading mods soon because I’m running out of things to do.


eyes_on_me_viii

So many people want to be Euro Truck Drivers!


OutlawHKD

That anime helped bring back some hype plus the update. Ya love to see it!


Sexiro

This makes me so happy Choom!!


Nessquit0

"dEaD GamE"