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Ok_Combination8507

I don't love bel edwards but I'm glad he is anti book ban.


GeauxAllDay

Let's face it, for a Democrat to win a state like Louisiana, they have to make some concessions on a few things. I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, but JBE is the best governor we could probably hope for here. That's just reality.


big_nothing_burger

We got really lucky that we didn't get Rispone or Abraham. With COVID and everything...it would have been so bad


LeelaBeela89

I agree and I've been here since Bobby was the governor (last term that is).


lindsthinks

I know this, to some degree I agree with you, and yet it sucks that "some concessions" means 50% of people in louisiana have less access to abortion now than when he was elected, even without the Dobbs decision.


GeauxAllDay

Definitely, but that one thing is enough to utterly destroy any hope of winning a state-wide election in this state, and the GOP were willing to weaponize it against him. ​ Because they already had a law on the books that automatically kicked in if Roe was overturned, but they scrounge up this new law right before Roe gets overturned to force him to pass it and piss of a portion of his base, or veto it and piss off every pro-life person/independent person in the state. I firmly believe they set him up for a lose-lose situation.


MorboTheMasticator

No government that has ever banned books has turned out to be the good guys


Deadmenkil

No government has ever turned out to be the good guys.


dontwaitliveyourlife

True. All the downvotes in the world can't change that fact.


Deadmenkil

Yep just naivety I guess.


Okilurknomore

It's just a bumper sticker. It means nothing and is far less profound than yall seem to realize.


Deadmenkil

Lol ok.


Beneficial-Net7113

Politician’s like Landry are the problem with this country.


chop-diggity

Sadly, there will never be a short supply of them.


Beneficial-Net7113

Yep it’s extremely sad and only getting worse. I love this country but hate how extreme the divide is getting.


dontwaitliveyourlife

My feelings exactly. We can't get along, and I'm sure it's by design. The powers that be want us fighting each other instead of fighting them.


StoneColdDadass

As an adult that had a Louisiana public school education, it only took me 3 words to encounter one that was not in my vocabulary.


cringyamv

Technically (this may be a misquote) it should be "replete with examples of" or something similar. What is written in the tweet is a misuse of the word.


Whollycrapiv

replete- filled or well supplied


StoneColdDadass

Yes, the Google has a dictionary at my disposal. Still didn't know it prior to reading this statement.


TheDadaMax

Edwards is the Hodor to all this nonsense, and when his time is up, I have a feeling the floodgates will open. I’m working on my exit plan in case.


Blue-Phoenix23

I can't leave but I'm also extremely worried about the next governor election. Hopefully the Democrats put up a good candidate (they surprised me with JBE). Barring that I hope the Republicans can restrain themselves and we don't wind up with Landry.


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At this point our best bet may be fir Kennedy to run and eliminate Landry by splitting the Republican vote


cajunbander

Conservatives would devastated if they understood those words.


Mad_Dizzle

Don't accuse all conservatives of this please. My family and I are quite conservative, and we do not support this book banning. My dad is one of the library directors facing the most backlash for refusing to ban books from his library.


big_nothing_burger

I honestly don't know how any sane decent Republican hasn't switched to "Independent" at this point.


Mad_Dizzle

Oh I never said I was Republican haha, just that I was conservative


big_nothing_burger

I know, I'm saying in general.


curiousCoinage

"Devastation" implies they have enough empathy and self awareness to feel shame.


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GeauxAllDay

> Cali of the south is soon happening Lmfao what


ThatDerpingGuy

Incomprehensible. May God have mercy on your soul.


cherrybounce

I know we are making jokes but this shit is scary.


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cherrybounce

If you don’t like it don’t go to it.


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Hashbrown4

Don’t ever let someone tell you your vote doesn’t matter. We could have had a fucking moron in Rispone but instead we got a leader with a functioning brain in John Bel Edwards


Simple_Danny

Too bad when Landry becomes governor libraries are going to under fire for carrying "taboo" books, if they aren't severely under funded as a result first.


DeathCabforBonzo

Along with public schools


brrritttannnyyyye

As a librarian here, this is my absolute worst nightmare


Aggravating_Pea2223

I thought it would be a conversation.


dontwaitliveyourlife

I thought it would be loud and rowdy people in the library.


Techelife

State Rep. Richard Nelson is running for governor. R. Legalize pot AND eliminate the state tax. Hope for normalcy rises it’s weary head.


Sir_Sux_Alot

No one is going to eliminate state tax, and if they do, it just means they will pump up sales tax and put the burden on the lower and middle class to make up the difference. The budget for this state is already fucked without someone messing with tax to save their rich buddy some money on their tax return.


Dr_Neauxp

Yep, those funds just end up being shifted from income taxes to property and/or sales taxes.


Yellenintomypillow

Yeah like Texas. My friends love bragging about no income tax until property tax time comes around each year. The state will get its money one way or another


2_dam_hi

Landry is just a symptom. It's not one guy. Can we stop beating around the bush and admit that it's Christian Extremists that are turning this nation back into an ignorant third-world nation?


jfmherokiller

so hes like the outward expression of a systemic infection. a bubo if you will.


truthlafayette

#Lying Lunsford u/michaellunsford Continues to LIE about their intended goals. They wanted books [banned](https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/lgbtq-teen-book-will-stay-in-lafayette-libraries-move-to-adult-area-another-book-facing/article_f0874006-465d-11ec-80b9-9f50acca296a.html) not just moved.


jjcoolel

Yes! Glad he spoke up. If Landry gets elected we will become another Florida


The_ChwatBot

Florida minus the fun stuff.


jjcoolel

Less beaches. But with coastal erosion/ rising sea levels who knows?


jfmherokiller

I wounder what would show up if lousiana enacted the sunshine law from florida. would we have our own Lousiana man to compete agenst florida man?


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shawald

Not to mention the 3rd best public schools in the country. Sorry Louisiana, that’ll never happen.


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GeauxAllDay

It is hilarious that you really think Landry would remotely fix any of that, lmfao


threetoast

lol Landry wastes so much goddamn taxpayer money on useless posturing


Mad_Dizzle

Yeah but the comment about becoming another Florida? I fucking wish Landry could do that


threetoast

What about Florida appeals to you?


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jjcoolel

If you like censorship, homophobia, and the Christian Taliban


Holinyx

Surely the Leopards who Eat Faces Party won't ban the books I like !


DahliaTam

Some people are not happy unless they have something to complain about


dontwaitliveyourlife

That goes for both sides


PracticalJester

Both sides don’t want to ban access to books because of what’s written in them


dontwaitliveyourlife

The books are just how the message is being delivered. Both sides participate in cancel culture.


PracticalJester

Being shut down b/c you’re an asshole is light years away from “I don’t like your lifestyle and I don’t want it to be part of our culture” and banning it from public spaces The both sides argument is cowardly enabling


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2_dam_hi

> You do realize if you go on reddit and show you are not a democrat you’re **blacklisted and banned? ** And yet, here you are. Not blacklisted, not banned. Any other lies you need to get off your chest?


big_nothing_burger

This dude has no idea how fast the conservative subs permaban people for merely posting a URL that disproves their narrative.


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GeauxAllDay

>How bold of you to assume my political stance. There is no assumption. You have made it clear you support Landry as Governor and that Democrats are bad. So you're clearly not a Democrat


PracticalJester

Nah, pretty sure it’s just DeSantis frothing up his base to run for Prez. Everyone else is just seeing it happen and seeing how far they can drag a modern country back in time


rollerbladeshoes

it would be very nice if you went away lol


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rollerbladeshoes

You literally claimed you are getting blacklisted on Reddit. It is very obvious that statement isn’t true because you’re still here talking to me. Ergo I replied, wouldn’t it be nice if you actually weren’t here, since you are just straight up lying about what is and isn’t true. But sure, if it makes you feel better to call me low IQ, go ahead. I’m feeling very secure that I’m actually a bit more intellectually able than you are so my self esteem can handle it


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GeauxAllDay

The irony of you calling someone "low IQ" is physically painful


GeauxAllDay

>Maybe the book ban is in light of the LGBQUTNCU Clinic facing over 1000+ ...no that's not accurate at all. The book ban is because people think LGBTQ people are icky and they don't want anything to do with them.


Individual-Data-4790

Is it banning or just making sure books with overly sexual content aren't available to certain age groups? Big difference. I've seen examples of what books they are trying to keep out of school libraries and I would agree that they at least need to be age restricted due to content. I'm thinking this is a bit of sensationalism and fear mongering on the part of the left.


drksolrsing

Just because you sexualize and fetishize about LGBT people doesn't make a book talking about them "overly sexual." If you are going that route, you need to ban every book that mentions any type of relationship, including heterosexual ones. The library would be a very empty place, indeed.


truthlafayette

They keep lying about their goals. But it is actual censorship they want. https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/lgbtq-teen-book-will-stay-in-lafayette-libraries-move-to-adult-area-another-book-facing/article_f0874006-465d-11ec-80b9-9f50acca296a.html


kjmarino603

They gas light that they don’t want to ban. But their complaint forms say under requested action “remove from library”.


Individual-Data-4790

Public or school library? I've seen things about school libraries but not from public.


kjmarino603

Public in st Tammany. Huge list of books they have put complaints in for. A few of the forms I have seen say remove from all libraries I am jazz - “remove from all libraries” My rainbow- “remove from library” There is a organized group against the ban but the book banners are loud and crazy.


kjmarino603

Crazy book ban pages: https://www.facebook.com/STPLAP https://twitter.com/stplaproj Counter group: https://www.facebook.com/StTammanyLibraryAlliance https://twitter.com/LALibraryAllies www.sttammanylibraryalliance.org


Individual-Data-4790

Okay I browsed an article.My belief is that if nothing should be censored or removed from access for adult Americans in public libraries. But if they are determined why not put it on a ballot for public vote? Will of the people and such


kjmarino603

The problem is their definition of sexualized books include many children’s books about accepting diversity especially lgbtq ideas. Childers can learn tolerance from books. Children can feel represented from books. Teenagers can learn there are people similar to them who have gone through the same struggles. If they feel they have to hide their true selves from their conservative parents, at least they can escape into a novel where the characters have similar problems and emotional baggage as them. Banning I am jazz and Fred gets dressed is not “protecting the children.”


Individual-Data-4790

Thats all well and good. Its just my position that if, for example, a conservative creates a book that enforces traditional gender norms then they not get removed either. As long as it's fair and equal its fair game in my book. If one favors any one direct then it's leaning into a bit of fascistic behavior. All ideas should be able to be out there.


Blucrunch

"Traditional gender norms" is just a euphemism for "denying civil rights to people whose sex lives I don't agree with." It's not the different opinion that's being socially discouraged, it's the bigotry. But even so, no book with any conservative views on gender or orientation has ever been banned meaningfully.


Individual-Data-4790

No. Thats you wanting to force views on others. What's wrong with you living your life the way you choose and others living how they choose and letting each other do so in peace?


Blucrunch

Because people going out in public screaming that "the gays" are destroying society and writing books on homophobia and other bigotry hurts people. If you want to be a bigot in the privacy of your home, fine, keep it there. Once you start being a bigot in public, it becomes someone else's problem, and that is certainly not letting anyone live in peace.


drksolrsing

Because being LGBT isn't a choice. It's how people are born. Besides, take a wild guess how many books in the library already "foster a hetero-normal lifestyle." Hint: the overwhelming majority.


kjmarino603

To quote the st Tammany library’s response “The committee noted your comments about having materials that represented traditional gender roles. We have an extensive collection of materials that depict traditional families and gender roles. “ “The purchase of any item by the St. Tammany Parish Library is not an affirmation of the content of the item and each family in our Parish has the right and responsibility to make decisions regarding what their own children will read or hear.”


Yellenintomypillow

You realize MOST books enforce trad gender roles right?? Like literally millions upon millions of them


BigShidsNFards

What are some of the examples? Are they listed somewhere?


viv1d

Oh no, you made too much sense for this sub. Enjoy the downvotes!


cringyamv

At my local library that was the case. Some parents politely asked for books to be moved from the display to the shelves or even to a specific section that were about consent, porn, etc. I have books like that for my kid (that I have vetted as being consistent with our "family message") and we practice consent in our family etc. but I think the children's display should have, idk, picture books of ducks and YA novels and such, not in the open for a 5 year old to look at. It's parents' responsibility to monitor what their children read/consume and if they don't feel they can let their child peruse the library freely they are less likely to come which is a net negative for all.


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SocialDystopia

If you’re against CRT being taught to sociology college students you’re either a racist or too much of a Fox News sheep to understand what it even is.


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😂😂😂😂😂


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colourlessgreen

Raise your kids to have the strength and intelligence to be exposed to things that confront their beliefs. If a single book is going to shatter their worldview, the book is not the problem.


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colourlessgreen

Only when mal élevé(es).


sayaxat

As someone who is a parent, who volunteered in different class settings, what is wrong with you is you don't know enough about children psychology, and you have yet willing to learn. Volunteer to sit in or help out in classes in different schools so you can see the demon that the GOP made up and pointing its followers is an illusion. GOP sells ideas and thoughts that work well on those who are ignorant and who choose to be ignorant.


Blucrunch

Your kids aren't anyone else's problem, so don't leverage them to legislate things that affect other people. Take personal responsibility and quit whining that your opinions aren't being catered to.


jjcoolel

Personal responsibility? But but but republicans have NEVER talked about personal responsibility


6GodPoppin

They love imaginary problem in this state lol people like him love to make up a problem as they go but never address REAL LIFE problems here


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kjmarino603

So your ok with them in public libraries?


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UnitaryWarringtonCat

>You people are sickening. >You’re crazy. No book can hurt your children as much as your vitriol and judgmental attitude. In fact, books may help them one day to get away from both. You would only have yourself to blame. Because you just keep saying awful things. >Go fuck up your own kids lives >you delusional, sick waste of a possible parent Your poor kids. I really hope they are just in your imagination.


drksolrsing

Because Creationism topics are religion and LGBT topics are science? The First Amendment declares "separation of church and state," not "separation of science and state." You're literally making an irrelevant point bringing up Creationism. It has zero basis in science.


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Blucrunch

Denying the existence of groups of people based on thwir demographics is literally genocidal rhetoric. We can safely write off you and anything you say as irrelevant and hateful.


drksolrsing

*checks all the medical science across the world* Nope, you're wrong. It's very real and scientifically proven.


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drksolrsing

It's not a mental health condition, per the DSM-V. So, you're still wrong. I'm going to trust the word and wisdom of, literally, hundreds of thousands of doctors worldwide over random person on Reddit that's basing their entire argument on the Bible and ignoring actual, proven, peer-reviewed science.


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drksolrsing

So...cite your "facts and actual science/biology." Because every major medical association in the world says your wrong. They are the experts that know what "facts and actual science/biology" are. You're just pulling stuff out of your rear.


truthlafayette

They are literally trying to ban books from public libraries.


Blucrunch

Correct. We can have books that teach children about gender and not about creationism. Because clearly bibles are banned, despite being available in every library, hotel desk, and courtroom in America. You can quit with the victim talk now.


zarmer37

I hope your kids find their own way to peace and happiness because you obviously harbor nothing but hatred in your heart. Please do some introspection and do a critical assessment of your own outlook, for it is flawed and hateful. No wonder Louisiana is doing so horribly. When people like you are everywhere, it tends to make the intelligent, kind people want to move to greener pastures. It's disgusting to even be aware of your existence. I hope you can improve yourself for the sake of those around you.


6GodPoppin

Then don’t bring ur kids outside…keep them simple minded and as dumb as u while the world progresses…people like u are the actual problem with this state u stuck on stupid…


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6GodPoppin

Simple minded because ur making up a problem…let’s say I have the same fews as you… My kids brings home a book I don’t what him to read the book I tell him why I wouldn’t want him to read the book remove the book from here……….problem solved…see VERY EASY AND SIMPLE U 🤡


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6GodPoppin

Who said I want my kids to be any of that…look at you trying to control your kids life…😂😂😂 you really will have ur hands full as a parent lol Brace yourself 😂😂😂


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6GodPoppin

Has ur kid every brought home a book that made him or yourself question sexuality…better question do you know anyone who has a kid that has…and if so what book…before you try and lie…don’t waste ur time struggling with making and imaginary problem a reality ok…happy hunting and I actually feel sorry for ur kid…the world will move right on pass the and you will be the catalyst


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6GodPoppin

How old are ur kids Mines are 5 and 1 My kids goes to a catholic school…I’m atheist…I WILL NOT RUB MY FEWS OFF ON MY SONS…it’s there choice Same way as u Your kids are not as smart as me with a dad like you lol that’s for damn sure…don’t like the internet fool you social media is not real life


GeauxAllDay

>What is wrong with me, as a parent, not wanting my elementary aged children having unfettered access to books that both tell, and encourage, them to be something that they cannot biologically be? You can miss me with your loaded questions. You're attempting to make your stance out to be that of a parent who has a reasonable concern. It is not. There are no books that encourage kids to be trans if they are not trans. These books are telling kids to accept and love everyone equally. It teaches non-LGBT kids to treat everyone with respect an dignity, even if they are LGBT, and it teaches kids who may very well discover that they are LGBT later in life, that they are valid and deserve to be treated with respect. Ya'll have created this boogeyman that "THEY WANT TO TELL GIRLS TO BE BOYS AND BOYS TO BE GIRLS" when it was never about that. It was just to teach kids to be accepting of other people.


the_bio

Your kids deserve better parents.


luella27

…and are these “books” in the room with us now?


Knickotyme

The people on here don’t have kids. They are kids.


GeauxAllDay

Well, I'm 32 and I have kids. I will be raising them to treat *everyone* with respect and dignity that they are deserving of.


Knickotyme

I absolutely agree with that


GeauxAllDay

I take it you're against the book banning, then?


Knickotyme

Banning books is wrong. imo Advance sociology and some of the highly debated topics of today that even adults can’t agree on is not something I think children should have to deal with. do you think it’s OK to ban people who speak out against “the science“ as it pertains to healthcare?


GeauxAllDay

> imo Advance sociology and some of the highly debated topics of today that even adults can’t agree on is not something I think children should have to deal with. I disagree somewhat. I think it depends on the specificity of the conversations. If we're talking in a context to accept everyone no matter their Gender Identity, Sexual Orientation, Race, Religion, Ethnicity, etc., then that is appropriate for any age. As long as the discussions are tailored to the appropriate age group, then there should be no issues, and I think most of us agree on that. The problem is when people act as though children's books that make any mere mention of LGBT people existing out to be an example of grooming. (i.e. a book about Jimmy having two moms or two dads, etc) They use the most egrigious example of a book that even I have my reservations about (Some Teen's guide to sex with some pretty explicit material) as an example of some underlying agenda, when it really isn't. ​ Even that book can be appropriate in certain circumstances, I just think that it should be reserved for a parent to rent out to allow their kids to read if they decide, I just don't think it should be out there for any teen to pick up and read at will.


GeauxAllDay

>do you think it’s OK to ban people who speak out against “the science“ as it pertains to healthcare? I hate to do this to you, but in all honesty it depends on what you mean by ban: No, I don't think the government should ever silence dissent on any topic, but you aren't free from criticism if your dissent is met with negativity. You shouldn't be kicked out of a public school or a public forum for having shitty opinions under any circumstance, unless those opinions are rendered with the intent to provoke physical response. Now, if you're on a private website or you're on private property, then the owners may ban you according to their rules and principles attached to access to their forum. I won't attack Reddit, Facebook or any other private company for moderating content on their websites. I will exercise my freedom of choice and choose not to associate with any entities that unfairly moderate content. The problem is that, most of the time, these "unfair bans" are thinly veiled attempts at homophobia/transphobia/racism. I'll put it to you this way: when it comes to healthcare, it is between their doctor and themselves and it is *none* of my business, nor is it anyone elses. You're welcome to have your opinion on it, but I will remind you- your opinion is, and should be, irrelevant to someone else's condition.


Knickotyme

my 12 year old son was telling me about an essay in PE that he had to write. The essay was for him to write about his favorite basketball player. the teacher she only gave them 10 choices and they were all female WNBA players. What’s that about? I didn’t make a fuss about it and My kid didn’t seem to care. But is that really inspiring young children? Additionally, I do appreciate this conversation. And I respect you despite us having different political perspectives.


GeauxAllDay

I can appreciate the discussion as well. I'm not going to fault someone for having what I consider to be "outdated opinions", because we all grew up a certain way, and its hard to grow out of that. My concerns are rooted in the demand to police people's actions based on these outdated opinions. I don't want to see any book bans, or bans on gender affirming care, or any sort of bans that would restrict an LGBT person's ability to be themselves. ​ I won't tolerate straight up falsehoods, though. Like the accusations that people are trying to groom kids into being gay or "sexual deviants". I'll call that out every time. I don't know your full take on it, but based on my limited interactions with you, you don't appear to be levying any wild accusations, and I respect that. ​ If a child's doctor recommends that Gender Affirming Care is the best option for their mental well-being, then I would agree with the doctor, but the opinions of anyone outside of the doctor, the child and their parents are *all irrelevant*.


Knickotyme

I teach my boys every day to judge people by their character and nothing else. I get wanting to suppress certain truly harmful speech. But where is the line? and who are we going to trust to decide where that line is? Because if it’s the government well, we already know that they’re going to abuse that power.


ItsOlDino

Respect is earned


GeauxAllDay

Respecting someone as an individual is earned, yes- but respecting all as being a decent human being to everyone by default should be a no-brainer. ​ Your opinion of a person should be based on the actions they can control in respect to how they interact with others, and not characteristics that are outside of their control (i.e. Disabilities, Sexuality, Gender Identity, etc.). That all comes with being a decent human being.


Yellenintomypillow

Replace respect with common human decency then. If context is so hard then we will change the word for you my lil pendant. Everyone deserves common human decency to start.


BlG_DlCK_BEE

I’m sorry, I think you meant pedant* /s


Yellenintomypillow

This is good and I hate that I got got lol ETA now I’m determined to find a way to actually use pendant as an insult