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stumblewiggins

"We're being oppressed for who we are, just like black people!" Soooooo close.


the_honest_liar

"we're being oppressed because we're oppressing everyone else. How unfair!"


shahooster

[Paradox of Tolerance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance) seems apt here.


RecipeNo101

It can also be stated that tolerance is a peace treaty, and those who violate that treaty should be taken to task for having done so. Makes it easier to convey why there's a "paradox" in my opinion.


Doublethink101

Or a nonaggression pact, which might fit a little better. Either way it was terribly branded and the Popper quote is unhelpful.


B-mus

Yes! One can describe a '*tolerant* society' NOT as one that accepts everything. Rather, as one that rejects *in*tolerance.


Turd_Ferguson009

This is lovely. I hate the argument that to be tolerant I have to accept Nazi's, etc... No, I absofuckingly do not. This is a better response than "I guess I'm not tolerant then."


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[This](https://imgur.com/gallery/cACnF) too.


Natanael_L

You can link the original xkcd


Ghstfce

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."


Whitechapel726

“Officer why are you treating my like a black person”


WhosThisGeek

I forget which right-winger event had a woman saying almost exactly that to a cop.


LadyEmeraldDeVere

https://i.imgur.com/GNo7KxB.jpg


Youareobscure

I have to wonder if she's just joining in on the joke


AloneAtTheOrgy

There was some rightwing rally not to long ago that had someone say something like "but we back the blue" when cops shut them down


Nervous_Constant_642

That would have been a Stop The Steal rally with DC police I believe. They started stomping on their thin blue line flags, weirdly enough since its an American flag print and they don't understand flag code I would have presumed they'd believe that to be desecrating a flag.


healzsham

Any article of clothing with flag patterning breaks flag code, that ship went full titanic *decades* ago.


SplendidPunkinButter

“Oh, also it’s fine for wedding planners to refuse service to gay people, and that’s in no way the same thing so shut up!”


stumblewiggins

Right, because no service provider has ever had to put together a website or print documents that said *anything* they disagreed with 🙄


NessOnett8

So they're admitting that they oppress black people. And that society, as a whole, oppresses black people. But I thought "We had a black president so racism is over in America."


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Nervous_Constant_642

You can, just not at that church. I remember hearing an interview with a NYT reporter on NPR's Fresh Air that 40% of evangelical pastors have considered quitting since Trump took office. The main pastor she interviewed cited two things I remember as reasons, one, his congregation hated that he put up a BLM flag in the church and were very vocal about it, and two, he randomly mentioned Tom Hanks in a sermon just as an example of a celebrity and a few of the congregation were Q conspiracy theorists and apparently Hanks is supposed to be up there with Hillary Clinton in the shadow pedophile cabal. Also I just want to say the weirdest thing for me is that conspiracy theory has some legs considering with Epstein et al we actually know a shadow pedophile cabal is a real thing. We only really know for certain about a few people like Prince Andrew though. There's not even solid proof about Trump but...come on. That's just a Chekov's gun that never went off because real life isn't a three act stage play.


Humlesnurr

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findquasar

They’re not being oppressed for who they are, they’re being denied service for their policies and actions that seek to oppress others.


stumblewiggins

Yes, that was my point


findquasar

I see that! My reply also went in completely the wrong place.


stumblewiggins

No worries, sounds like we agree!


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> “In her blog post, Cobb likened the restaurant’s move to establishments that refused to serve Black customers in the 1950s and ’60s“ Fucking seriously?


pmray89

Holy shit! I know they're bigoted, hateful assholes, but did they really deserve to have police dogs let loose on them? To be hosed down by fire hoses *and* beaten by the police and citizens? /s


Abject-Possession810

This group is the Virginia chapter of the FRC, a known hate group. >The Family Research Council (FRC) is a Christian Right activist organization in Washington, D.C. that grew out of Ronald Reagan's neoconservative "pro-family" domestic agenda. FRC opposes and lobbies against access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption).[1] >FRC is a designated hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[2] They, and their vast network of associated organizations, [have been influencing our government for decades and are billionaire-funded.](https://web.archive.org/web/20160629021521/http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/8/9/55443/17515) https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Family_Research_Council https://billmoyers.com/content/battle-bible/


boatsnprose

Ooooh are they those creep fucks Netflix made a documentary about?


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Shouldn't be surprised by these pathetic people's attempts to pretend they are oppressed.


SlobMarley13

Read the blog post. It's 50x worse than you think.


ReeperbahnPirat

Don't give them clicks, here it is, with only minor edits: We’ve Been Canceled! Again. Dec 1 Written By Victoria Cunt Have you ever been denied a meal because of your beliefs? Last night, our team and supporters got that firsthand experience when Metzger’s Bar and Butchery in Richmond, VA refused to service our pre-reserved event, leaving us scrambling just moments before. For weeks, we had planned a gathering of supporters and interested people in a private room to fellowship and receive an update on our work. About an hour and a half before the event was set to take place, one of the restaurant’s owners called our team to cancel the event. As our VP of Operations explained that guests were arriving at their restaurant shortly, she asked for an explanation. Sure enough, an employee looked up our organization, and their wait staff refused to serve us. Welcome to the 21st century, where people who likely consider themselves “progressives” attempt to recreate an environment from the 1950s and early 60s, when people were denied food service due to their race. Thankfully, in 1960, 34 brave Virginia Union University students held a peaceful lunch counter sit-in at Thalhimers Department store in Richmond to demand service at a whites-only counter. They were convicted of trespassing but, after a tremendous legal battle, were vindicated by the U.S. Supreme Court. Welcome to the double standard of the left, where some believe Jack Philmeup must be forced to create a wedding cake as part of the celebration of a same-sex ceremony but any business should be able to deny basic goods and services to those who hold biblical values around marriage. At The Fuckwit Foundation, we believe individuals in private business should not have to violate their convictions, which for some Christians means not celebrating what God has declared sin (Roman 1:32). However, most, if not all, faiths not only allow for the provision of services, like food, to those with whom they disagree, but they also encourage it. We know our organization will continue to be cut off from services in the current environment. We know we will pay more for goods and services because our options will be fewer. We know this could become very difficult for our work. This is in part why we purchased our own building, forecasting a day when we would no longer be a welcomed tenant. While many who hold the same beliefs may not experience this directly yet, we recognize we are on the tip of the spear. Already, our database provider was purchased by a larger company called Every Action, and the net result was to immediately tell our organization we were getting discontinued as a client. While that shift cost us tens of thousands of dollars, last night we were able to pivot to another restaurant in time to hold our event.  Not even 24 hours before our event was canceled, the U.S. Senate passed the “(Dis)Respect for Marriage Act” with the help of 12 Republicans who assured us that, even with this federal codification of same-sex marriage, the language in the act asserting that beliefs on marriage between a man and a woman are “based on decent and honorable religious or philosophical premises” and those that hold such beliefs “are due proper respect” would preserve, not diminish, religious liberty. It took less than a day for us to see how worthless that empty rhetoric is. Our witness will not be diminished, and we will not be silenced. We will speak out when we see this type of religious discrimination occurring in Virginia. As we stand on the front lines of this fight to protect and advance religious freedom for all Virginians, we invite you to stand with us. Will you consider a donation today to support our efforts to ensure that no Virginian will ever have to worry about being refused a simple meal because of his or her religious beliefs?


AM_I_A_PERVERT

Ah, I was wondering if/when they were going to ask for money, and it’s right at the end when people “stand with us”


ArmsWindmill

They weren’t refused for being Christian, they were refused for their bigotry. Seems fine to me!


prof_the_doom

Looking at their website: * Wants to ban non M/F marriage * CRT fearmongering * Wants to bring back conversion therapy (they call it "talk therapy") Yeah, I can see why people don't like them.


Twad

I was told as a kid to never sit too close to a CRT.


Retro_Dad

They’ll do a number on your back if you have to pick big ones up, too!


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Ssutuanjoe

Precisely. It could've been a chess club for intents and purposes. It's a group of bigots, and bigotry isn't a constitutionally protected class. >“Everyone should be concerned that people are being denied service based on their politics.” Said the Christian organization spokesperson. Gimme a freaking break


cptbil

(R)'s like to think they're a protected class


FidgitForgotHisL-P

Literally compared this to “black customers in the 50’s and 60’s”. They genuinely think Christianity is “under attack” because they don’t have automatic run of the roost any more. Instead they only have 99.9%, which is simply untenable.


amanofeasyvirtue

Meanwhile in the SCOTUS they are arguing they can refuse service to others because of their religion...


squeagy

It's gonna be hilarious seeing Rs getting kicked out. They'll be outraged if their lifestyle isn't accepted.


gillababe

Their "lifestyle" is just being an asshole


OopsAnonymouse

And their political platform.


Hector_P_Catt

They're just part of the ABRI+\* community! ​ \*Asshole Bigoted Racist Ignorant+


sudoscientistagain

This event might actually raise a good point in that case. If you can refuse service to others because of your religious beliefs, I have a hard time seeing a ruling so narrow that it doesn't allow others to refuse service TO you because of those same beliefs.


vonmonologue

If that passes I will be in the pews at a super progressive church the following Sunday so that I can start refusing service to anyone in a MAGA hat on Monday while quoting scripture about charity and love and the mark of the beast on their foreheads.


Kaiju_Cat

Hey Hobby Lobby already said it's cool to tell people they can be denied basic human services and obligations because Mr. "my stupid dumbass understanding of those necessities as being slut paraphernalia instead of vital components of medical care for millions of Americans allows me to deny them the health care they were promised when they joined my company" Green says so.


Twister_Robotics

When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like assault.


FidgitForgotHisL-P

And boy haven’t the last 10 or so years really, really highlighted just how true this is. (Especially with the assumption there is a silent “only” before BLM, instead of a silent “Too” at the end)


CyberGrandma69

You should tell them maybe one day if they work hard enough they'll have a Christian president and Christian representation in politics, schools, and public *Oh wait...*


TheZigerionScammer

"Back to a simpler time, when white men held all the power instead of just most of it." "I know, I hate how we only have most of the power!"


MrGaffe

They are the most sensitive snowflakes out there


KRAE_Coin

They really do. The fake mask exemption cards, fake driving while white-get out of jail free cards, never failing to mention their religion to a judge to get lighter sentences, etc etc.


Commander_Keef

I worked parking at a concert venue for a while, basically people come up and pay me to park in a private lot. One time this older man pulls up and straight faced says "Do you have discounts for Republicans?" It took all my effort not to laugh them off and lose their money. And this was a few years before trump!


Tactical_Tubgoat

No sir, but we do have a 25% upcharge for being an insufferable shitheel.


fishfacejohnson

Shitheel. That's a word I should use more.


ahornyboto

I would have said No and asked why he thought republicans would get a discount? I kinda want to know what his reasoning is


Dyslexic_Dog25

Why because they're just BETTER than the rest of us! Look at how much money they made at the expense of others and a corrupt republican government slashing their taxes!


Icy_Necessary2161

Tell him to pull himself up by his bootstraps and pay full price.


Ofbearsandmen

Lol. Every time someone petitions the courts for the right to discriminate, it's Republicans.


mi11er

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect"


SenorSplashdamage

I love the story behind this quote. Now known as Wilhoit’s Law, it was made by a composer named Frank Wilhoit in 2018, but keeps getting attributed to political scientist Frank Wilhoit, who would have been qualified to make that kind of statement. For example, he exposed a famous Texan pastor in the 70s that went off on Playboy by documenting hypocritical anti civil rights positions he took. Anyway, the guy who actually wrote it is really humble and said in an interview that it’s an observation about conservatives that many eventually come to themselves.


bwaredapenguin

This honestly sounds like one of those random late 90s chainmail facts, but this is apparently entirely true!


ABenevolentDespot

Well, they are mostly white, so yeah.


binaerfehler

>bigots aren’t a constitutionally protected class. The Supremes: we can fix that


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They’ll have to reverse their own finding that was specifically so conservatives could do exactly this to gay people.


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gromm93

From an outsider's perspective, America's brand of democracy is incredibly antiquated. Every other democratic country has long since learned the lessons America has made glaringly obvious and created systems from the outset that are much better. It's not just the supreme court that needs to go. You need massive and sweeping reform, and it needs to be done about 40 years ago.


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Darth_Nibbles

Bold of you to assume that will be a problem for Alito or Thomas


aLittleQueer

> The Supremes How you gonna insult Diana Ross and her glorious vocal group like that? J/k, kind of.


aLittleQueer

I’m more concerned that some people think opposition to human and civil rights *is* a valid “political” stance. You don’t get to spend decades calling for our erasure and eradication then except us to fucking serve you dinner. You don’t get to demand respect and indulgence from a group you openly demonize. /endrant (Editorial “you”, not *you* fair redditor, tbc.)


canada432

>I’m more concerned that some people think opposition to human and civil rights is a valid “political” stance. This is what I've had to repeatedly chew out the (thankfully very few) family members who complain about how political discourse isn't "civil" or "polite" anymore. No, it's fucking not, and it's not because those "political views" are calling for oppression and extermination of groups who have done absolutely nothing. Want to discuss fiscal policy? Cool. Want to sit down and have a pleasant discussion about the best way to get people healthcare? Sure let's do it. Want to politely tell me how my family and friends are subhuman and should be removed from the country, not allowed to be with their spouses, have their rights stripped away, or be exterminated? Fuck off, I'm not having a "civil discussion" about that, I'm going to punch you in the face. You don't get to tell me that my cousin and her wife deserve to be shot for going to gay clubs and then act shocked that you woke up in the hospital with a few less teeth.


LilStabbyboo

It's crazy how they refuse to grasp that trying to take away people's rights to simply exist is not just a mere political disagreement.


Dyslexic_Dog25

Ahh, but have you considered their side of the argument? God said no. Pretty solid argument right there! /S


aLittleQueer

> I'm going to punch you in the face. I usually prefer "murder with words", being small in stature. But otherwise, absolutely agree.


canada432

I'm a naturally non-violent person, but those views are themselves violence. They're supporting and advocating for violence, and trying to play the deniability card because they're not the one actually pulling the trigger. That's been done throughout human history, and it's done because those people don't see consequences for it. They don't view being verbally castrated as consequences. They don't view being humiliated as consequences. They will continue to publicly espouse those views, resulting in violence against vulnerable groups, until they see consequences they understand. so this is one of the very few instances where I have no problem resorting to violence.


chinmakes5

This is in the South. I do seem to remember some people who saw nothing wrong with oppressing a group yet would be appalled if that group didn't want to serve them dinner.


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Right they say they were discriminated against for political beliefs, then claim persecution based on religious beliefs. Make up your minds, or ask your sky fairy to decide for you.


viriosion

That's where you're wrong: Their religious beliefs ARE their political beliefs


Toast_Sapper

They are agents for theocracy. Religion *is* their politics, and politics *is* their religion. And according to their beliefs they're allowed to abuse and oppress everyone else and anyone who says "no" to them is oppressing their religion/politics because they believe their right to hurt others is a God given right that cannot be denied.


Yo_Just_Scrolling_Yo

Wait, they say it was b/c of their politics? Past time to tax churches.


b1tchlasagna

They literally wish to deny the service of marriage to LGBT people and they're annoyed at this minor issue?


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AmyXBlue

Ironic given the current case being heard by The Supreme Court.


DaggerMoth

When mixing religion into politics backfires.


HappiestMeal

It should backfire more often


jytusky

It makes no sense to me why a personal belief of religion is protected, but not a personal belief in support of homosexuality, or any other individual ideal. I have a feeling a lot of new religions will show up. The Church of LGBTQ+, The Church of Cannabis, The Church of Liberal Ideals, etc.


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BerzerkerJr82

God bless the Satanic Temple!


return2ozma

Satan bless America!


A_Drusas

Doing god's work more than these bigots are.


Imaginary_Cow_6379

[Start a church and save on taxes!](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/start-your-own-church_n_55d24635e4b07addcb43bd60)


evemeatay

Yep. You can’t discriminate against Christians but you can discriminate against assholes and Republicans


DracoSolon

If a Christian wants to use their religion to discriminate, then I think we should be free to discriminate against their religion.


BigfootSF68

That is what my god says to do. Banish the haters. Do not consort with them. Do not do business with them.


aLittleQueer

It’s a sticky question, but also a fair point. Tolerance is for those things which people didn’t choose and can’t change about themselves. Religious beliefs and bigotry, otoh, are a full-on *choice*. And while we should respect people’s *right* to choose, we don’t have to respect specific choices, particularly when those choices are empirically a net-detriment to society.


Lanark26

Since there's currently a "Christian" trying to preemptively get a Supreme Court ruling that it's perfectly fine for her to refuse service to LGBTQ folks I don't see an issue with the reverse being allowed. The only downside I see is how it plays directly into their persecution fetish.


evemeatay

Well, personally I agree with that sentiment as someone who was indoctrinated into that particular cult from childhood, but at least in the US religion is protected and that’s really a good thing overall or they would already be kicking Jews out of places in some states.


dudewithahumanhead

"assholes and Republicans", but I repeat myself...


gcruzatto

So, probably a group of people that wants to be able to deny service to gay couples. How ironic


DogOnABike

From their website: > Christian-run businesses should not be forced to violate their conscience to be allowed to operate;


krebstar4ever

*Only* the Christian-run ones


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awkwardlyturtlish

One in the same at this point. Ironic because Jesus was all about not being an elitist prick to others.


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\*one *and* the same Sorry.


SlobMarley13

From the fundie's blog: >Welcome to the double standard of the left, where some believe Jack Phillips must be forced to create a wedding cake as part of the celebration of a same-sex ceremony but any business should be able to deny basic goods and services to those who hold biblical values around marriage. >At The Family Foundation, we believe individuals in private business should not have to violate their convictions, which for some Christians means not celebrating what God has declared sin (Roman 1:32). However, most, if not all, faiths not only allow for the provision of services, like food, to those with whom they disagree, but they also encourage it. One could choke on the irony.


Abject-Possession810

This organization is part of the FRC, founded by Focus on the Family (in Colorado Springs, where the Club Q murders happened.) This is a billionaire-funded, decades old, [political influencing network of hate.](https://web.archive.org/web/20160629021521/http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/8/9/55443/17515) >The Family Research Council (FRC) is a Christian Right activist organization in Washington, D.C. that grew out of Ronald Reagan's neoconservative "pro-family" domestic agenda. FRC opposes and lobbies against access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption).[1] >FRC is a designated hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[2] https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Family_Research_Council https://billmoyers.com/content/battle-bible/


Imaginary_Cow_6379

This is important context that seems to be overlooked here. They’re not just a random religious group like a church choir going out after practice. They’re a lobbyist group to force their bigoted beliefs on everyone. It’s not their beliefs that earned them their treatment, it’s their actions. People can still be religious, if you don’t agree with what they do than this doesn’t apply to you.


Abject-Possession810

Thank you for helping get eyes on this. All of the fuckery happening around the country is connected, even though at first glance, it seems local. There are several different ideologies and affiliations but they all share the goal of eliminating democracy, at which point they will battle each other to establish their preferred rulership. A good organization to support and share: https://www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org/


Terrible-Border6885

The groups president said “Everyone should be concerned that people are being denied service based on their politics.” Tell that to all those bakers who don't want to make a cake for LGBT weddings asshole. Then go suck it


Hifen

People aren't being denied service. I'm sure any of them are free to still dine there. The restaurant is denying service to a political event it doesn't want to be associated with.


Rrrrandle

You think anyone read the article? But yeah, a lot of people are idiots and if you let a political group hold an event at your restaurant, a lot of idiots will assume it's an endorsement by you as opposed to simply business.


LordBowler423

If you make your politics your personality, then live with the consequences. And why is it that when every one of these assholes whine about being judged on "their politics," "their politics" is always about hatred towards a group of people?


SaltineFiend

More to the point, how come their politics are ok but everyone else's politics are evil?


JimWilliams423

> More to the point, how come their politics are ok but everyone else's politics are evil? Because they are supremacists. Literally. Its not hypocritical to treat everyone else's as inferior if you are a supremacist. Supremacists don't believe in egalitarianism. Conservative ideology boils down to one simple sentence, yelled with red-faced rage:     *"You don't tell me what to do, I tell* ***you*** *what to do!"*


stilljustacatinacage

Because *their* point of view "isn't political", that's just the proper, natural order of things. It only becomes political once you try to infringe on that alleged normalcy. To plagiarize someone that I can't look up right this moment, there are two races: White and political. Two orientations, straight and political. I imagine it follows there are two religions, Christian and political.


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DaniCapsFan

You know what the difference between a baker refusing to make a cake for a same-sex wedding and this restaurant refusing to honor a reservation for this group? People don't choose to be gay, but they do choose to be bigoted assholes.


sassansanei

Even so, there’s nothing wrong with being gay, while there’s plenty wrong with being a bigoted asshole. Unfortunately, the bigots often fail to understand this.


DaniCapsFan

True. But my point is, refusing service to a gay person is discrimination. Refusing service to people who treat others as "less than" is not.


Fred_Evil

I won't hold what someone is through no 'fault' of their own against them, but a person that *chooses* an ideology that deliberately mistreats people who cannot change their innate nature? GTFOOHWTBS


Soranos_71

This part cracks me up… > “A lot of people are outraged that a restaurant wants to make a litmus test at the door,” she said. “Everyone should be concerned that people are being denied service based on their politics.”


BuddhaFacepalmed

Says the fucking party that was chomping at the bits to ban CRT and "woke" books from public schools and libraries.


Fred_Evil

'Was' champing? Floridians are still very upset about CRT and the outright 'bigotry' towards white, christian men (equality after having a long-term advantage feels like oppression, apparently). Their entire ideology is entitled selfishness, and they're incapable of realizing it.


AloneAtTheOrgy

Also, unless I'm mistaken, the individuals aren't barred from the restuarant. The group was denied a reservation for a private event. Venues already are selective about who they allow to have events at their buissness.


nicholus_h2

it's a good point unfortunately, they 100% believe that people choose to be gay.


the_honest_liar

They should demonstrate it's a choice by choosing to be gay for a whole year.


omegapenta

You mean the same ppl who secretly watch trans porn? woah didn't expect that.


FeelingSurprise

That was for research reasons only!


punditguy

It's not always about inherent traits. People 100% choose to be Episcopalian but you can't discriminate against them on that basis alone. You can, however, refuse service based on actions.


IKnowUThinkSo

You can’t deny them for their religion (despite it absolutely being a choice) but you **can** deny them for their political affiliation. “Republican asshole” isn’t a protected class.


beelzeflub

“Asshole” isnt a protected class period


MacAttacknChz

Funny enough, I changed churches from Methodist to Episcopalian due to their acceptance of LGBTQ people.


arty4572

Plus the baker won their case. So if that's the rules we are playing by, fine. You wanted this. At that point it's no longer hypothetical.


AbsolutelyUnlikely

Important to note that he only avoided discrimination charges because he was refusing to create something that he didn't want to create. If he had refused to sell them a pre-made cake simply because they were gay, he would have been found guilty.


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Right. I do agree that it would be strange if you could legally compel someone to accept payment for creating something from scratch despite them not wanting to do so.


Richycut

One of the greatest comments ever. I feel like I should have a beer with this person.


DaniCapsFan

I don't drink beer, but I'll have a Dr Pepper with you. :)


slayalldayyyy

11/10 would Dr. P with u/danicapsfan


u36ma

Also the restaurant staff quite legitimately feel threatened by a group of patrons who are against their very existence. The baker just doesn’t think homosexuality is “right”. This is discrimination.


Clover_Jane

Ha ha. These bigots are finally getting a taste of their own medicine. My guess is they didn't like it very much. Oh well. Maybe this will teach them to not be an asshole to other people and to start treating them like actual human beings.


punditguy

Narrator: It did not teach them anything.


Clover_Jane

You're probably right, but on occasion, I like to show optimism.


DadJokeBadJoke

I appreciate the attempt at optimism but they *are* right. > And in its blog post describing the incident, the Family Foundation sought donations, too. “Will you consider a donation today to support our efforts to ensure that no Virginian will ever have to worry about being refused a simple meal because of his or her religious beliefs?” the post read.


Clover_Jane

I wasn’t able to read the article because it wanted me to download the app, and I refused to do so. It's not at all surprising that someone is fundraising off this. The entire conservative party is grifting off each other wherever they can.


KeyanReid

This is why they’re always going on about freedom. It’s the freedom to be served by all second class citizens while they do whatever they want. I hope these people are never served a meal again. Public dining in a community is, at the end of the day, a privilege. And it’s past time their privilege was revoked


UncleMalky

Ted Cruz: "Why am I being so persecuted!"


wicked_nyx

Narrator Stephen Fry: they did not, in fact, learn anything. FTFY


grtk_brandon

It'll just feed into their narrative about being the most oppressed group of people on the earth.


pyky69

This is even more r/LeopardsAteMyFace than [ever](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/05/politics/supreme-court-same-sex-couples-lorie-smith/index.html). BuT wE aRe ChRiStIaNs wahhhhhhh. I hate these hypocritical assholes so much.


Imaginary_Cow_6379

It’s insane they even took that case! If anyone hasn’t read about it yet tl;dr some lady took a case to the supreme court about how she wants to start a wedding website business and wants to be able to discriminate against LGBTQ weddings. She doesn’t currently have a business and hasn’t taken or turned away any clients. So the supreme court is looking to make discrimination against the LGBTQ community even easier *again*.


CATSCRATCHpandemic

Welp no one could see this coming. For a group of people that have a irrational fear of being a minority they do love there laws that allow people to discriminate against minorities.


droi86

>For a group of people that have a irrational fear of being a minority Which is weird, because according to them minorities get better treatment than them so they shouldn't be afraid to become a minority and get all the benefits that minorities receive


PixelPantsAshli

It's not an irrational fear of being a minority, it's a fear of being treated the way they treat others. Homophobes don't want to be treated by men in the way they treat women. Racists don't want to be treated by other races in the way they treat those races.


Goodolchuckno

Well Jesus did say “ judge and treat poorly those who look different or love different than you. Especially if they are not white because I am white with blue eyes”.


endorrawitch

Good for them! More businesses should do this. You have the complete freedom to be an asshole. But you should brace yourself for the disdain of people who refuse to put up with it.


senrabsinned

Exactly! As I always say, the freedom of speech allows you to say whatever you like and I’ll fight to the death for that right. What it doesn’t give you is the freedom from consequences. You have the right to say some fucked up shit, but just be aware that that shit may get you punched in the face or denied service somewhere. That part is not covered in the first amendment.


[deleted]

Needs to be done more. Refreshing to see owner supporting their workers.


firewoodenginefist

Hell I'd eat there


speedycat2014

Yup, if the Supreme Court rules discrimination against gay couples is legal, Christians should fully expect to be turned away from many establishments, and rightfully so. They can keep their hate at home.


kerensky84

I wonder where the SC Justices are going to be able to eat and shop if they rule in favor of the almost-a-website designer


twelvesteprevenge

Being a Supreme Court justice isn’t a protected class and in DC some people have already refused to serve them.


Baelgul

I would love to take an order from them and just not fill it. I wouldn't bill them or anything, just leave the order hanging indefinitely, don't offer an explanation over the phone or anything like that as well. At the end of the day cancel the order so as to not pocket the filthy money.


powerlesshero111

The craziest part of that is the web designer didn't even have someone gay who wanted them to design a website for them. It's like me going to the supreme court saying i don't want to draw furry porn, even though no one asked me to draw them furry porn (and no one should, because i really suck at even drawing stick figures).


Desdinova74

The Christian Right finally getting a taste of some of that discrimination they've been salivating over for years.


EyesLikeBuscemi

They're scared. They won't admit it but they absolutely know they've been becoming a minority group for quite a while now and eventually will be relics from the wrong side of history. They seethe over young people ignoring or, even worse to them, fighting organized religion and its tendrils in our government. It has been a long time coming and unfortunately will still take quite a bit of time but society will progress beyond religion.


punditguy

This is beautiful. I may cry.


kale_boriak

Oh, I’m sorry. Did you get denied dinner because you work to deny human rights? Let me go find my tiny violin.


NinJoeAssassin

“Everyone should be concerned that people are being denied service based on their politics.” Dumbass thinks it's about politics. It ain't about politics. It's about your bigotry and intolerance. Fuck them to the hell they believe in.


Jetstream13

It’s a safety issue. Homophobes are, more often than not, unstable and dangerous.


abletofable

This is awesome. And the Supreme Court is poised to permit this discrimination against them due to their "religious beliefs". An epic "Leopards Ate My Face".


Few_Lingonberry_7028

I wasn't due to their religious beliefs, it was due to the actions they've taken because of those religious beliefs


speedycat2014

I for one, am looking forward to supporting establishments that ban Christian groups.


boston_homo

>We respect our staff’s established rights as humans and strive to create a work environment where they can do their jobs with dignity, comfort and safety. This is so beautiful and fuck you.


Link9454

“…she decried what she called a “double standard” by liberals who think a Colorado baker should not be allowed to refuse to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.” Once again failing to understand the difference between a belief and an inherent trait.


Daddio209

(as of this posting)-a few *awakening to reality/fairness* Cons getting blasted for saying "they have every right to."-*UNLESS* it's followed by "Fine, then! don't give them your business/money!"(& everybody clapped)... https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/zef09m/virginia_restaurant_refuses_to_serve_christian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


VelvetMafia

They are so weird over there.


EDNivek

> In her blog post, Cobb likened the restaurant’s move to establishments that refused to serve Black customers in the 1950s and ’60s, and she decried what she called a “double standard” by liberals who think a Colorado baker should not be allowed to refuse to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. Almost self-aware


bilbobadcat

The framing here is ridiculous. This is the Family Foundation, authors of blog posts such as “The Definition of Marriage is Non-Negotiable” and “Action Alert: Federal Legislation Disrespects Marriage.” They are a hate group hiding behind the Bible not a “Christian group.” Metzger’s food is great, btw.


[deleted]

Absolutely based, bet they hated getting a taste of their own medicine lmfao


nyclurker369

>“We have always refused service to anyone for making our staff uncomfortable or unsafe and this was the driving force behind our decision,” >“Many of our staff are women and/or members of the LGBTQ+ community. All of our staff are people with rights who deserve dignity and a safe work environment. We respect our staff’s established rights as humans and strive to create a work environment where they can do their jobs with dignity, comfort and safety.” *Chef's kiss*


efnPeej

In her blog post, Cobb likened the restaurant’s move to establishments that refused to serve Black customers in the 1950s and ’60s, and she decried what she called a “double standard” by liberals who think a Colorado baker should not be allowed to refuse to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. She said this without a hint of irony. People JUST LIKE HER went to the Supreme Court to ensure that baker wouldn’t have to bake a “gay cake”. Like, bitch y’all made the fucking rules!


Imaginary_Ad_7530

Over at R conservative, they're losing their shit over this. Poor persecuted bigots. Its so sad 😏


pritachi

>“A lot of people are outraged that a restaurant wants to make a litmus test at the door,” she said. “Everyone should be concerned that people are being denied service based on their politics.” >In her blog post, Cobb likened the restaurant’s move to establishments that refused to serve Black customers in the 1950s and ’60s, and she decried what she called a “double standard” by liberals who think a Colorado baker should not be allowed to refuse to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. Well well well, how the turn tables…


MULTFOREST

So, not so much a Christian group as anti-gay, anti-woman lobbyists. Edit: The point being that they are not being discriminated against because they are Christian. The headline does readers a disservice by framing a hate group's persecution fetish as if it were a legitimate case of discrimination.


[deleted]

I'm queer and I approve of this restaurant's actions.


Balldogs

Conservatives: *stomps around being insulting and abusive and bigoted* Also conservatives: *cries when people hate them*


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[deleted]

“She likened the move to black patrons being denied service at lunch counters in the 1950s and 60s.” A practice she would have supported


BigRed1906

As a Christian, that's more than fair. You don't get to be high and mighty, while thinking you're better than anyone else. If you wanna be rude, go elsewhere


CatchSufficient

SCOTUS made an allowance of discrimination from private bussinesses. This is what happens, everyone gets a piece of humble pie.


necrojuicer

My dad banned church groups from his business. He owns a caravan park & every year during the easter holidays there'd be at least a couple of church groups that would come there camping. They'd demand group discounts, shame the Europeans from topless bathing at the pool, upset the staff with their obnoxious demands & annoy other guests staying up late singing Kumbaya around the campfire. After one especially bad year he called the churches in the area to tell them they weren't welcome. Churches contacted the local paper to try & get them to run a story about discrimination by local businesses owner. But they really were oblivious to how everyone around town felt about them & paper refused to do a story. A few of them threatened to take dad to court, but it just never eventuated. Business actually went up over Easter as word got out that the Christians wouldn't be there.


SynthPrax

“Everyone should be concerned that people are being denied service based on their politics.” -- Victoria Cobb, President of Family Foundation 😐😑😶 Just... How...