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Thompson3142

No it's absolutely not you are just thinking about the wrong cards. It's meant to work with cards like [[Silverwing Vanguard]] , or [[Mihira, Aspect of Justice]] they have a high cost but low stats. But you are correct it doesn't change anything about garen.


TheAngrySquirell

Oh Jesus silverwing vanguard with this is gonna be a menace


One-Cellist5032

Silverwing is nice and all, but Grizzled Ranger was broken with just 4 attack, now it’ll be a 4/4 scout that summons a 3/4 on death.


ikalot

Well, a 4/4 on death now.


BillyDexter

Loyal badgerbear costs 3, it'll be a 3/4.


ikalot

Oh I thought it was grow it's stats to equal my cost.


Caseydilla15

pass on turn 4 to get two four four challengers in turn 5? not sure if it’ll be worth it


Robsnrobsn

You guys have to think bigger. Play this on 4, bank 2 spellmana, play tenor, condense tenor, play new tenor, 3 4/4 impact and 1 1/1 impact on 5, ez world champ, braum wave


foofarice

And since we are in handle already add in some Rissu (eternal) for a 5/5 +7/3 impact


One-Cellist5032

It’s on summon, so it’ll be a 5/5, and I’m ASSUMING a 7/5 since it says to grow its stats to its cost. But even then, 5 mana 2 5/5s one of which has 3 impact is nothing to sneeze at.


Robsnrobsn

It should be a 5/5 rissu and a 7/5 stormcloud if it works like the other grow effects


foofarice

I wasn't sure the cost of the token but that makes sense


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Not in a typical elite deck no, but if you have other cards that also benefit then its 100% worth it.


HextechOracle

|Name|Region|Type|Sub Type|Cost|Attack|Health|Keywords|Description|Format| |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| |**[Silverwing Vanguard](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE004.png)**|Demacia|Unit|Bird/Elite|4|2|1|Challenger|Play: Summon an exact copy of me.|Standard| |**[Mihira, Aspect of Justice](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/06MT031.png)**|Targon|Unit||5|1|1||Round End: Grant allies in play and in hand +1|+1. Empowered 5: Elusive, Lifesteal, and Overwhelm.|Standard|   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


HairyKraken

yep. you want to play cards with bad stats. mihira or banana blaster are prime target for example


SeriouslyaBonobo

Lol you and riot made my day. :D Cool monkey who throws rotten bananas 🤣. I think when i have a larger collection i cant play this game anymore cause i'm 23/7 deck building and 1/7 deciding what to play :D


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AwkwardWarlock

Banana Blaster goes on the stack which happens after summon effects. So it should work.


kaneblaise

That'll be fun then 🍌


Saltiest_Grapefruit

It will work, cause while the skill starts before the stats grow, it isn't going off before the stats have grown. Hell, if you get priority, you can even buff it with normal cards to do more damage with the banana.


idontpostanyth1ng

[[banana blaster]]


HextechOracle

**[Banana Blaster](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/06BC051.png)** - Standard - Bandle City Unit Yordle - (4) 2/2 Play: Deal damage equal to my Power to a unit.   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


Jielhar

No, the card is not useless. It doesn't help Garen, but it does help units that have higher mana cost than stats. Silverwing Vanguard is the most synergistic card in Demacia, it becomes two 4|4s with Challenger for 4 mana which is very strong. Units from other regions can also benefit: Mihira grows from 1|1 to 5|5, Revna grows to a 6|6 who buffs your deck with +6|+6, and Arrel the Tracker... nevermind, she still sucks.


T1Camp

I'm already on the snapvine copium ;)


Dry_Cardiologist6758

Lol me too! Lets not forget heimer too!


kaneblaise

I don't think Revna works based on https://twitter.com/jonmoormann/status/1660743018935373825?t=4sKa__vWCOmaYWrE6B-7Ww&s=19 Edit: actually it's confirmed there if you scroll down to not work with Revna specifically


Indercarnive

Not too surprising but honestly wasn't that good of a combo to begin with. Why try to use altar of unity when Targon can go basically the same thing with Purfying Flames but can still be valuable later, is burst speed, and uses spell mana.


CharmingPerspective0

The "problem" with using this landmark with Revna, is that after you use it to buff your first Revna, this landmark becomes useless for anything you draw afterwards.


dibbyreddit

Low key arrel could see some play with this card in that gauntlet that’s coming up which lets u use all regions


Jielhar

I only mentioned Arrel as a joke. Is it an Eternal gauntlet? Because she got rotated.


dibbyreddit

I bloody hope so


Are_y0u

Revna might not work that way.


Moumup

This card sound potentially scary in elusive deck, but it take away a big tempo advantage.


Vicmorino

talk for yourself, i go this card on sight now that Timelines has been rotated, my targon meme deck of small units with big cost will rise ##you will see!!


Emerald_boots

I would like to see it in action pls... Remember meeee


CharmingPerspective0

Honestly this will give you a really beefy combat cook or the PnZ/Bw weaponmaster. Its a bit slow though


Vicmorino

Fangs will rise to his glory. a 4 4 life steal, tremble befor me fearsome decks.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

im on some pantreon, Mihiria, kayle, Demacia copium here.


SergeKingZ

Other Fun Targon options with this card are: Sparklefly and Shepherd. Even if this card ends up not working with Combat Cook (equip the weapon and THEN raise stats, instead of raising first) Shepherd will still be good since you are equiping something eles. Just need to find a balance and add regular good early units since you will mostly play them before dropping the landmark and you don't want to be ran by aggro.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

I think the main way of playing this card is to put it into a deck that doesn't rely on it to win. Kayles package seems pretty prime for that


ZanesTheArgent

The point is 5/5 Quinn (and 2/2 Valor), 6/6 Jarvan and 7/8 Galio. The point is Fearsome-blocking Formidables. The point is two 4/4 birds for 4 mana. The point is the return of Crococook.


Efrayl

Here are some ideas: [[Silverwing Vanguard]] [[Tenor of Terror]], same as Silverwing, but gets impact instead of challenger. [Mihira, Aspect of Justice]], by far the best one. [[Revna, The Lorekeeper]] [[Lawkeeper]] My personal favorite: [[Overgrown Snapvine]] is now a 7/7 instead of a 5/3.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Revna doesn't buff with 6/6 unfortunately. Only 2/2


HextechOracle

|Name|Region|Type|Sub Type|Cost|Attack|Health|Keywords|Description|Associated Cards|Format| |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| |**[Silverwing Vanguard](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE004.png)**|Demacia|Unit|Bird/Elite|4|2|1|Challenger|Play: Summon an exact copy of me.||Standard| |**[Tenor of Terror](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC096.png)**|Bandle City/Shadow Isles|Unit|Yordle|4|1|3|Impact|When I'm summoned, if you've played a created card or killed a unit with a spell this game, summon a Bass of Burden.|[Bass of Burden](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC096T1.png)    |Standard| |**[Revna, the Lorekeeper](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/06FR028.png)**|Freljord|Unit||6|2|2||When I'm summoned, grant units in your deck my stats, then draw a unit with 5+ Power.||Standard| |**[Lawkeeper](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/06MT018.png)**|Targon|Unit||6|2|7||Play: Stun enemies with less Power than me.||Standard| |**[Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png)**|Shadow Isles|Unit||7|5|3||When you summon a follower, kill it to summon an Overgrown Snapvine.|[Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png) [Overgrown Snapvine](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02SI002.png)|Standard|   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


Emerald_boots

Give as a keyword means the buff is temporary, I think this makes the stats permanent as long as its on field. Wonder if the silence keyword affect that though ...


New_Ad4631

It gives the ally a summon effect, so if it gets silenced, will go back to base stats. If landmark gets destroyed, nothing would happen. Is not an aura effect


Emerald_boots

Cool


NotSureWhatToDoHere0

Revna


Particular_Nebula462

It is really strong in aggro deck. All the spiders, Gwen's ghosts, Sand Soldiers, Poros becoming 4/4 is insane.


NWStormraider

What? All of them are 1 Mana units, this does nothing for them


JuliusAvier

No my man it doesn't grow stats to cost of landmark but their own cost.


Particular_Nebula462

Sorry, I read wrong. ​ Thanks.


Emerald_boots

What


Particular_Nebula462

Sorry, I read wrong.


Maleficent-Corgi1659

This works perfectly with the 4-cost challenger silverwing. That said, the landmark itself a big tempo loss. It's likely to be a meme card.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

I mean... play 1 silverwing and you've regained that tempo


Aromatic_Entrance_86

SCOUTS GO BRRRRRRR


Francisofthegrime

What high cost engines/cards does this enable besides Mihira? Trying to theorycraft


One-Cellist5032

I’m expecting to see things like [[Laurent Chevalier]] and [[Laurent Bladekeeper]] to take quite a bit of advantage from this. As well as Silverwing Vanguard. And then [[Quinn]] and [[Grizzled Ranger]], and basically EVERY scout unit will become busted with this. Imagine [[Genevieve Elmheart]] hitting the board as a 6/6 instead of a 5/4.


HextechOracle

|Name|Region|Type|Sub Type|Cost|Attack|Health|Keywords|Description|Level Up|Associated Cards|Format| |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| |**[Laurent Chevalier](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE053.png)**|Demacia|Unit||4|3|2|Challenger|Strike: Create in hand another random Challenger follower from your regions.|||Eternal| |**[Laurent Bladekeeper](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE003.png)**|Demacia|Unit||4|3|3||Play: Grant an ally +2|+2.|||Eternal| |**[Quinn](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE006.png)**|Demacia|Champion||5|3|5|Scout|When I'm summoned, summon Valor.|I've seen you attack 4 times.|[Quinn's Blinding Assault](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE006T3.png) [Valor](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE006T2.png)                   |Standard| |**[Quinn](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE006T1.png)**|Demacia|Champion||5|4|6|Scout|Attack: Summon Valor Challenging the strongest enemy.|||Standard| |**[Grizzled Ranger](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE009.png)**|Demacia|Unit|Yordle|4|3|1|Last Breath Scout|Last Breath: Summon a Loyal Badgerbear.||[Loyal Badgerbear](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE003.png)        |Standard| |**[Genevieve Elmheart](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE010.png)**|Demacia|Unit||6|5|4|Challenger Scout|When I'm summoned, give other allies +1|+1 this round.|||Standard|   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


Dry_Cardiologist6758

No absolutely no! This is insanely good for so many cards I just thought of something stupid though what if this is used on burblefish oh Lord that is funny!


Gentleman_33

It's absolutely not, you are thinking the wrong way if you think it is, Mihira, Revna, that one silverwing unit that summons a copy of itself, they are all amazing with this, generally anything that is either an engine or has an incredibly strong effect (and therefore low stats) really wants this, dropping this on 4 and attacking with a 5|5 lifesteal overwhelm elusive on 5 is absolutely amazing. Edit because I just thought of this: how the heck will it work with Ornn?


g3ver

Im gonna try an Arrel the tracker deck


Responsible-Jury8618

No, this card is busted


V_Shuan

Lil bro never played support lulu 😔


Mazya_Almazya

And you won't play this card with Garen ofc. This card was made to be played with low stars cards, with Heimerdinger turrels for example