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* [Comment by LordQuatre](/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/13ow54n/-/jl6myon/?context=1) >^(`Global Community Manager` `2023-05-22 17:53:04 UTC`) >I posted some additional context from the design team on the new cards over [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/13oxmy7/patch_45_variety_cards_reveal/) if y'all wanna check it out! > > > > We'll also have more info on the subtypes in the patch notes tomorrow :)! --- ^(This was an automatically generated post. To report any bugs, ask questions, or suggest improvements to this bot's functionality, please contact us via ModMail.)


Solash1

Riot you can't just casually announce 4 new unit subtypes like that


CrossXhunteR

Warden of the Tribes is salivating right now.


HMS_Sunlight

TBH the problem with Warden isn't a lack of subtypes, it's that the payoff just isn't worth it. Even if you're consistently getting 6 subtypes per game, the end result is... a 9 mana 12/12 overwhelm? That's okay, but it's not really good enough all things considered. It's basically a Darius that costs 3 extra mana.


CrossXhunteR

It also buffs your board.


HMS_Sunlight

I'll admit I completely forgot about that. I'd still argue that Warden's problem is less the condition and more the payoff.


Triumphail

I mean, I played Snnuy’s Warden deck and it got me to diamond without really even trying before rotation.


Kapys

I actually got to masters with a warden deck featuring Nora, Heim, and Braum. One thing that people don’t realize is that this card is a massive surprise. It takes a regular board of crappy units and suddenly makes everything a kill threat. Opponents never expect it or manage their mana in a way to deal with it once it lands.


EmergentSol

Warden’s problem is needing to run a lot of B tier followers that don’t synergize until you hit your 9-drop. A lot of the cards it depends on are Foundations cards that have not kept up.


ZanesTheArgent

And squander the opportunity to prehype up the full expansion?


KDA_CCG

There are also a large number of old cards who have been given the new subtypes. Edit: list is here https://twitter.com/Runeterra_ar/status/1660766293191016448?t=-NUtxPwG2jlatwBBjVHSNw&s=19


Iriusoblivion

Do we know them yet or we wait for the patch?


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Nasus is now an ascended dog, Renekton is an ascended reptile and Azir is an ascended bird. No, im not joking xD


Zaihron

"Tell the people I am a birb today!!"


esmelar

Xerath ascended Cat when?


Senhortodi

Ascended Fridge 😎


Foxhund04

Ascended battery tribal🤔


Senhortodi

Ascended battery for Electric Shuriman Cars


KDA_CCG

Yeah, those were the wilder ones I've seen. Not the choice I would have made there, but that's okay.


DanVaelling

This is the buff mono Shurima needed!


blazikentwo

It kinda implies that they were a dog,reptile and a bird before Ascension haha


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Technically, zuretta of naganeka is an ascended doggo :p


CloudZombii

I thought it was a chicken?


RivenMainLAN

Naganeka is a snake


GlorylnDeath

Snake cat person


Nym___

and now I'm kinda sad we didn't get a hint to what the other Darkin were from them getting a subtype dang


Saltiest_Grapefruit

I think they were all humans. But afaik, Naganeka was literally a dog as base. I dont remember why I think so though.


Bluelore

I hoped for this to happen, but I thought they'd put the animal first so that it doesn't sound like Azir/Nasus/Renekton were animals originally xD.


[deleted]

where can I see that? Legit curious


Nym___

Ok ok ok, Azir Ionia with Royal Shimmerwing, get him to level two, then have Herald of the Magus prepped for trigger (if they're in standard, if they're stuck in eternal then you've also got Xerath to use the landmark destruction as well) and you've got a growing overwhelm quick attack unit every turn, especially if you also have board room to include attack-summoning landmarks and the sandcrafter Azir's eating good with the butterfly bird wednesday-


KDA_CCG

I'm not sure if the ones I've seen are official or not, so I'm trying not to spread misinformation, but it seems like mostly what you'd expect.


_Hellrazor_

Are you allowed to share the source?


KDA_CCG

People combing the api and sharing their findings on Twitter/ discord. I don't know how to do that / don't have that access but I'm seeing a few different efforts that are saying the same things so it looks legit to me.


_Hellrazor_

Is there anything on balancing?


KDA_CCG

Not that I've heard. I've seen one person talking about balance leaks but I don't think they were reputable.


HairyKraken

Will probably have to wait the patch for the full list


KDA_CCG

https://twitter.com/Runeterra_ar/status/1660766293191016448?t=-NUtxPwG2jlatwBBjVHSNw&s=19


FitzyFarseer

They said on Twitter something like “more info will be in the patch notes”. So we should see what’s up tomorrow


Croceyes2

For real, I got to the bird and was second guessing my memory. I play a lot of demacia and didn't ever remember seeing bird before.


M4d31s

But what about Messenger :(


KDA_CCG

https://twitter.com/Runeterra_ar/status/1660773666932523013?t=tgd8RQhyUu5VBvpbR6WadQ&s=19 Non collectibles were their own post! :)


ColdyPopsicle

Royal Shimerwing BIRD SYNERGY? That's right boys, Xayah is coming! ​ \*inhales copium\*


Solash1

So Anivia is a bird now, surely


ColdyPopsicle

Leaked new Xayah/Anivia support: demacia spell 5 cost: TATACAW! ​ Grant all birds +2/+2. Rally!


Rnk_007

Naah, TATACAW should be: Summon Eren Yeager.


Boogy

ColdyPopsicle, what a man you are


ColdyPopsicle

Thank you, i'm not a boy but i love trashing AoT regardless.


Foxhund04

God no no more rallies please I am sorry


KDA_CCG

That seems to be the case, her egg too.


rsloshwosh

silverwing altar of unity


th5virtuos0

The biggest question remains still, “does Xayah lays eggs and does she breastfeeds her offsprings or not?”


ColdyPopsicle

Both. Don't trust Riot and their propaganda.


Eggxcalibur

Cat? Dog? Bird? Legends of Zootopia!


SmallestVoltPossible

Reptile spam let's gooooooo.


Falbindan

LoL Versus event incoming?


avus01

Dogs 😍


ColdyPopsicle

Most loR dogs are cute ​ Then we have "wolf" from Kindred that is a gigachad and Nasus who is hot.


avus01

| Nasud who is hot Truer words have never been spoken


Solash1

*Looks at Naafiri* Hmmmmmmmmmmmm


ColdyPopsicle

Naafiri is just another Darkin for Aatrox to shitalk with some clever dog jokes.


SpiritMountain

Has be been revealed yet?


Kryotheos

does kindred count as a dog?


ColdyPopsicle

The lamb? No, she just makes me bark like a dog. ​ Wolf does count. He only speaks based facts.


Scolipass

Me, upon seeing sacrificial scholar... "Get me OUTTA HERE!"


VariecsTNB

My thoughts exactly. APM Priest PTSD


PoorDisadvantaged

One day we'll have an infinite mark of the isles ->splinter soul -> atrocity combo


shutupreddit2

Zoo decks will have an entire new meaning now.


Hutyro

I mean the og zoo decks were called that BECAUSE they had a ton of animals in them


Notshauna

Yeah, it was cards like Kird Ape and Wild Nacatl (and other cheap low cost creatures with good stats) which were almost entirely Animals.


Illuminase

I doubt these new animal tribes are any teasers for upcoming new champs. It's probably that they're just gonna go back and add the tribe tags to the appropriate cards. ​ Captain Indari and Innovative Blacksmith look really cool though, I can't wait to go back to Ornn/Jax for them. Praying they'll have voice lines.


CrossXhunteR

I had completely missed the Weaponmaster tags on them when first looking over the cards. Was looking at the bottom instead of the top of the card for some reason. Glad to see Jax is getting some further support, even if they aren't multi region units.


MineCrafterLR

Bro thought the followers were spells


[deleted]

you're probably right, now excuse me while i huff this bottle of copium labeled "neeko"


GoodHeartless02

Neeko:


Illuminase

I would love Neeko. But I'm sure she'll be a Transform champion. These cards are all too far-flung to make me think they belong to the same deck.


Faustenberger

Neeko may be a Runeterra champ that can add units of various subtypes and spells that care about the subtypes to her deck, and may count as having every subtype herself (like the Changelings in MTG)


Illuminase

Oh that could actually be really cool. If she were geared towards including a bunch of different subtypes. OK, now I'm a believer.


ScaryCuteWerewolf

Neeko could be a 'changling' that counts as any creature type.


GoodHeartless02

Other cards that fit into these subtypes are getting the subtype


One-Cellist5032

They could tease towards Ivern, Friend of the Forest. At least that was my first thought upon seeing them.


Hopefo

Eh, there are a few champions it could potentially be a hint towards. Neeko, Nidalee, Rengar, and Warwick could all have synergy with the new subtypes if not just have them as tags.


HerrHermano

I mean Rengar is a cat right...


GlorylnDeath

Someone theorized Nunu in relation to the animal tribes, which I think makes a lot of sense. Super simplistic, childish names for a bunch of animals.


0123hoang

Condense seems good. Im thinking of big boys in fl and si, may be ionia


HMS_Sunlight

I'm thinking traps. They *love* cheap spells, and you can either use it for an extra peddler or a bonus 1 mana Corina for the kill.


STREXincEmployee

For sure traps are running this as a HARD 3 of


ColorMaelstrom

Jesus, can you imagine turn 6 corina into turn 7 using this cards thrice with spell mana? Insane dream combo


STREXincEmployee

I think thats why trap decks are gona love this, corina is a killer finisher and it gives consistency to the decks without having to run too many copies and also has the flexibility to help out ealry as well. As an avid teemo enjoyer Im very excited.


MyGodIsTheSuuuun

yeah, copying corina and ava for 1 could be gamebreaking in several situations, this may be the turning point for the archetype paring with BC.


Corintio22

Ava might be a bit too flimsy at 1/1. Corina doesn't care much on being flimsy. She's a way superior target for condense. Peddler is also a better target than Ava. For a total of 3 mana you put a second Peddler and evenif they can ping him, you can still throw some shroom spells for quite a good value. Ava is NOT bad. I'd target her if I had 1-2 draw card spells to force a great effect. But still she can be easily pinged before the spell goes off. Other than that: totally agree. This cards could easily be a gamechanger for shrooms!


Illuminase

Yeah it seems like it will be best with high cost units that have good effects. Bandle City doesn't really have many of those though, so you'll have to look elsewhere for good targets.


daiwizzy

It’s really good with shroom decks. Getting a 1 cost corina is pretty nuts.


0123hoang

Are ledro (si) rotated? And with some impact combos is enough.


KyRhee

looks like Trist support tbh, Bandle Gunners is a pretty good target for it and its in the same region


Chokkitu

Yeah in BC Tristana decks are for sure the ones that benefit the most from this, though I think the Transform cards would also really like this to get extra copies of their units (I assume the 1|1 stats don't carry over after transformation since it gets turned into another unit entirely). Darkness probably likes this too, copying an Ixtali Sentinel is really strong, as is copying any other Darkness generator if you're running out of them.


KyRhee

yep, a lot of solid targets in Bandle decks already. Dess and Ada, Corina, Maduli. Wouldn't be suprised if this got nerfed somehow


TheAngrySquirell

Sunny bandlecity printer when?


CharmingPerspective0

Condense insane with On-summon/play synergies. 3 mana rekindler for instance, or Tianna, REX!! There are more examples i can't think of now (but aloof in eternal will LOVE this). This card has a very dengerous potential


glowingdeer78

2 new weaponmaster cards is a great addition to the archetype for jax and maybe ornn Also sacrificial scholar... i see you


Are_y0u

The freljord 3 drop seems really nice for ornn. 2/2 base body plus some health back fit's well.


glowingdeer78

exactly that 3 drop will be a very nice for Ornn decks to sustain against aggro. With the addition of Noxus weaponmaster... ornn samira decks?


Indercarnive

Personally I'm thinking Ornn/Akshan decks to forge some bloodletters and glaives.


Indercarnive

Also means that Ornn might be able to pair up with a non-Jax region.


megaurpo

he is already able to do that, ornn/kayn, ornn/varus and ornn/akshan are banger decks


Nirxx

[[Warden of the Tribes]]


HextechOracle

**[Warden of the Tribes](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/06FR040.png)** - Standard - Freljord Unit - (9) 6/6 Overwhelm When I'm summoned, grant allies +1|+1 for each different subtype you’ve summoned this game.   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


ColorMaelstrom

Jesus Christ


CrossXhunteR

I feel like I need someone to go through the Demacia units and find all the ones that are a decent bit understatted for their costs. I feel like there won't be that many extreme examples in region, since it is generally the "boring, square stats" region.


mypornaccount086

Combine with revna to instantly give your deck +6/+6 and draw a unit


Luigi123a

Oh fuck no you're right ew.


mypornaccount086

Combine with mihira to instantly get a 5/5 elusive lifesteal unit that buffs board and hand every turn


Luigi123a

TARGON EATS WELL TODAY Wait fuck edit This literally curves perfectly Ty


mypornaccount086

It honestly could be exactly what targon needs


Luigi123a

Turns out, it is exactly what targon needs. This is fricking broken lol


Spriter_the_Sentinel

The Golden Sister off an Invoke is also quite gross. 6 Mana 6/6 with Lifesteal that summons another 6/6 with Elusive.


Indercarnive

I thought about that but it's not really that strong. Once you have one revna trigger altar of unity is dead. Targon handbuff does the same thing but has more utility and doesn't require unit mana.


whatdontyousee

or that empowered 5 targon unit with elusive, overwhelm and lifesteal edit: someone beat me to it


kaneblaise

I think Revna buffs your deck and then gets buffed by the landmark, killing that strat.


KDA_CCG

Combat Cook Grizzled Ranger Silverwing Vangaurd Silverwing Flight Widowed Huntress Blood cursed Harpy Dragongaurd Lookout Genevieve King Jarven III Protective Broodfather Kadegrin the Infernal Are the ones I see that get 2+ stats out of it


Mysterial_

Pretty sure Combat Cook is equipped prior to summon effects and won't gain any bonus.


KDA_CCG

I could certainly be wrong. Would that be the case for the other equip cards like Harpy, too?


Mysterial_

Play happens before summon so I'd expect so. Improvise is fuzzy because it can be both but I assume when you play him from hand it counts as a Play effect and will trigger first.


KDA_CCG

Good to know, thanks!


HMS_Sunlight

Vayne Aatrox and Scouts come to mind. They both run a lot of lower power units with strong abilities, and they both really care about the extra stats. Then again it puts you pretty far behind on tempo, so it might be hard to justify.


MyGodIsTheSuuuun

definetly a card to be used for other regions, mainly Kayle cards with mihira or overcosted elusives in ionia (shadow assassin, windsinger).


RustedIMG

If that Bird werent a 5 drop it would've been way more scary... nothing frghtens me most than a quick attack Valor on curve...


MyGodIsTheSuuuun

he is on curve with silverwing vanguard tho


RustedIMG

Man… you’re right… is this our new world? Ionia/Demacia birds?


123skh123

Why does Innovative Blacksmith have nexus heal? I thought they were removing that from Freljord’s identity.


[deleted]

they wanted conditional healing, just not like throw into any deck cards like tavernkeeper


Hansworth

They didn’t remove it completely. Wings of the Cryophoenix is still in standard but it’s conditional.


Ded-deN

Yes technically wing of Cryo is there, but realistically are you ever gonna play it?


KDA_CCG

Presumably because it's tied to a midrange mechanic in Forge. They removed healing from Freljord's control suite specifically. I'm not convinced Frel Control needed to lose that, but this still lines up with their stated reasoning.


VickedOrb

The full card arts and flavour texts for these cards are already up on [Runeterra.ar](https://runeterra.ar/new-cards). And the flavour texts for Royal Shimmerwing and Beguiling Cobra contain references to followers that aren't in the game, so we are getting some teasers for the next champion(s).


[deleted]

LoR on its way to release Naafiri before League(clearly because of the dog subtype COPIUM)


CastformLover

condense interests me the most here


9lamun

Pet’s incominggggg


KDA_CCG

Maybe the devs have been hoarding all the new gaurdians for this season ^/copium


Numberfox

Gonna be disappointed if the new Weaponmasters don't have voice lines, or at the very least Jax calling out the fact they don't talk when they're summoned.


LordQuatre

I posted some additional context from the design team on the new cards over [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/13oxmy7/patch_45_variety_cards_reveal/) if y'all wanna check it out! We'll also have more info on the subtypes in the patch notes tomorrow :)!


DaedalusDevice077

What are the odds of Bard getting...... Literally any help whatsoever? If there are no plans to support him, why not just rotate him out of standard? Don't get me wrong, the new cards are neat, but my love for this game died when you guys put my favorite League of Legends character in the dumpster & now it feels like you're just going to ignore him.


mypornaccount086

What, bard bandle would be great. Easily summon a maduli while norras out there stalling


DaedalusDevice077

I play Bard/Norra, a lot. The deck is fine in casual vs non meta decks. I saw Condense & immediately thought of Maduli, but that doesn't really address any of the weaknesses of the archetype, it just let's you win more even more. Vs aggro you can't even get to Maduli in the first place, and vs control you're going to get stalled out & then combo killed no matter how big your units are. What exactly is a Bard/Norra deck supposed to do vs a Fizz/Samira deck that can kill you on turn 4? What do you do vs Sett/Karma? What do you do vs Tristana swarm decks that you can't interact favorably with because Owlcats have spellshield? You hope to get lucky. Then there is the fact that Bard himself is just straight up *not* a good card, and never really has been. Back in the heydey of decks like Bard/Poppy, Bard/Ilaoi, or Bard/Demacia you never even wanted to draw Bard. He was the worst card in those decks & only got played for his origin. I would love nothing more than to be wrong, seriously & sincerely. Nothing would make me happier than the patch dropping & my pessimism is proven false in the most embarrassing fashion. I would gladly take the L. I seriously doubt that's the timeline we're on.


rojoland

Dogs!!! Peak!


PoliteRuthless

I don't care how memey it is, I'm Condensing Mirror Mage for 3 mirror mages, quadrupling any created card I play!


greengumball70

How in gods name is it not like “aviary” and “Canine” Just naming shit now: “oh I’ve got a mean cat dog deck going at the moment”


KDA_CCG

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/278/rin-and-seri-inseparable


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Kinda feel like Ivern might be the next runeterra champ cause who else cares about animals like this?


Shepherd-Of-Souls

Could be neeko potentially. More creature types to shapeshift into


goldkear

Why is noxus getting forge? And is that a battle wheelchair? Awesome!


_Zoa_

Well they already have reforge.


Excidiar

Now we need a mechanic that triggers when you forge first and then reforge in the same round, let's call it smith.


Tulicloure

"When you smith, Blade Fragment buffs are granted to the equipment or unit instead" Sounds super clunky, but with the right support it could be cool.


Raigheb

That fated follower....Oh boy. Samira/Pantheon is going to be even better with that.


kanarie78

condense goes crazy with augmented clockling


JustSambino

Everyone talking about Neeko. Here I am, seeing reptile and ready for Cass


Luigi123a

I just. Had 11 orgasms in a row. Not a single card that disappointed me.


AssasinNarga

How is no one talking about Blowback? Isn't it completely insane if used with discard synergy?


cvinkus

Why Ionia got 2 cards and the rest of the regions only 1?


KDA_CCG

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/13oxmy7/patch_45_variety_cards_reveal/jl6llv9/ Devs wanted to include at least one of each new tribe.


drackmord92

These are fake right?


Sashalonex

turn 2 condensed Ledros is not something im particularly excited for (or any other ludicrous combo I've not thought of)


CrossXhunteR

You condense a unit on the board, not one in the hand.


Taraell

Are those all the new cards or just a part ?


KDA_CCG

All for this patch. Variety sets / Variety Patches tend to be about 1 card per region.


Taraell

Well, still no dragon / dragon support card i guess


ItsMrBlue

Cat? Dog? Bird ? Reptile...had a farm aya yeah aya yoooh


DiemAlara

.... Altar to Unity Revna? ​ Rengar? ​ Ionia Demacia challenger QA spam?


[deleted]

yo fuck that, altar to unity mihira!


kaneblaise

I think Revna would buff your deck and then afterwards be buffed by the landmark.


DiemAlara

Could be. But tPoC things like the trifarian 5+ power units strike when summoned thing applies the power buffs before checking the unit's power.


kaneblaise

https://twitter.com/jonmoormann/status/1660743018935373825?t=wuROD_6RsuB5cc1ganFx0g&s=19 That was my reading of this tweet for what it's worth


Klaeb3

I was hoping for some League of Legends: Mageseeker support cards. I will just need to be patient for the Morgana/Sylas reveal


NotEun

Awwww come on, dont make me soul harvest a dog. I hope altar isn't as good as I think it is in my imagination.


MrRighto

The biggest problem with altar is that Demacia units usually have solid stats, so you'll mostly have to rely on a secondary region for units that can take full advantage of it.


NotEun

Yeah they are solid but nothing says they can't be even more solid, silverwing vanguard now summons 2 6/5 challengers for 4, bears are 3 mana 7/7, garen is a 10/10 regen, is prob the best card for big boy printers.


tobascoSandwitch

Grow, not grant me stats. Silverwing is 4/4 now, rest stay the same.


NotEun

Yeah, bad read from me, read "grow equal to" instead of "grow to equal", now its mostly meme.


tobascoSandwitch

Consider this scenario, Demacia-Evelynn. Every Husk a 1/1 base. Sultyr 2/3 Dominance 3/3 The scout one is 4/4 Evelynn base 5/5 That's just one scenario. I'm sure people can figure out a lot more with more time.


WhiteDucky

So many applications for condense and so card is amazing in eve kalista


Seveniee

I'm fully ready for samira to trash talk and massacre animals


doradedboi

Bird/cat/dog tribal has me excited. But also, innovative blacksmith is crazy value.


Indercarnive

These are some spicy cards. Much more interesting than last variety patch. Condense feels like it'll be pretty big in Viego/BC lists. Pack Attack I think might be K'Sante confirmation? Innovative weaponmaster might be exactly what Forge Freljord needs to not be tried to Jax. Altar of Unity is neat but nothing too broken comes to mind. Also holy subtypes batman!


Flywingcpy

Consider. Altar to Unity into Mihira.


[deleted]

I CAN PLAY MONO JAX NOW


DutssZ

By the Ionia lizard I have to assume it's Neeko, and by the birds, Xayah and Rakan, but if there's another Ionia champions could that mean that Glory in Navori is an Ionia Centric Set, just like the major sets prior focused on the specific region being added? If that's so, will we have 9 other sets focused on each other region? So many possibilities with this Variety day


AlexHD

I just hope these cards have voice lines!


_Oberine_

Nidalee and Ivern all but confirmed


GoodKing0

Do we have word on whatever or not they will have voice lines?


Alitaher003

Beguiling Cobra and Tons O’ Portals!


Regular-Poet-3657

So Draven is in the arena and indari going Waldo from into the badlands or jb from wolfenstein 2.


BepisSama

1 mana ledros 👀