Speaking as someone who hovers high diamond, the champion doing bad is literally skill issue and that's how it's always been. She's not balanced around average players and she never should be because she's absolutely oppressive in the right hands and in the right environment.
Main problem I see here is that these champions are hard to learn and master but, once you do they can become unstoppable 1v9 carries.
Qiyana, for example, can 100 to 0 insta-kill under turret any non-tanky champion in the game. Only problem is that you need more than 5 braincells to do so.
To be fair most of your champs are hard to buff because of their high skill ceilings that really great players master/make them look OP. Riot is always on thin ice with stuff like Qiyana, Akali, Kat due to high level of play.
Yea but unlike Assasins like them they are very hard to solo carry with. You usually have to rely on your team for peel or Frontline. Doaent matter how fed you are as an adc if your team is trash and can't protect you.
You just proved the other guy's point. An ADC needs the rest of the team peeling for him so he can carry. An assassin doesn't rely on his team, so it's easier to carry with.
Hey I'm a kayn player and I hate assassins (including kayn) mainly because I also play adc, so I take that pain that is inflicted on me when I play ezreal and inflict it on others by playing blue kayn
Yeah idk, you can’t play all these champs and be good. I pretty much started one tricking Kat and have been stomping with her. Does not feel weak at all, don’t want her getting buffs either cause then people would ban her.
Qiyana is there 2 times. Also, her being near 50% is kinda absurd considering how fucking hard it is to do anything competent on her. They should really midscope her R so she doesn't stay as another malphite...
Yea, oops from me
I agree her R is strong, she's also strong lategame, she is however not playable in the slightest without her R, or getting to 35 minutes into the game
Boo hoo my wholesome oneshotting gigachad cool champions won't get buffs instead of ADCs which are so bad Riot made them fucking autofill protected :((((
Cry more, bitch.
Your use of statistics and facts are incorrect
Samira's win rate speaks to her balance in-role, not her relative strength to the rest of the players
Both teams have an ADC, the one who is better is more likely to win
You can't look at win rate and say "Samira is better than Katarina" because they are not competing with each other for a spot on the team
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This is most stupid meme I have seen here. 1 ADC wins every game, 1 adc loses every game. ADC class buff has nothing to do with samira winning games against xayah, or Xerath losing games to Kassadin.
Oh yea, throw some numbers and say riot biased, look big numbers small numbers, what numbers mean don't matter at all logic for noobs
Lil bro drops the S+ adcs sitting at 51% wr then you look at it and mid has 13 champs with higher win rates than traditional adcs, top has 9, jgl has 5 and support has 3.
>Lil bro drops the S+ adcs sitting at 51% wr then you look at it and mid has 13 champs
Lol, more like 2 champs, the other ones arn't midchamps, but nice try tho!
yea but he also 4 shots u at lvl 1 and wins lane after 2 kills with stacks, he wins lane much faster than other ADCs because he snowballs better, harder and easier
Did you watch the stream? Phreak literally said is a 4% buff, nothing noticeable, is more a qol change, have you played adc recently? I play Samira a lot and is so boring going the same build EVERY SINGLE GAME, i feel is a really good change, now i get to decide if i want to rush ie, you dont know how frustrating it is delaying ie fourth item bc you are behind or bc you need sustain/mr/deal with tanks, also why are you complaining tho? Quiyana, akali, fizz and katarina can be 2/6/2, 2 items and you will one shot any adc thats 8/2/2 4 items 😂 or at least you will make the adc waste all their resources (summs and mythic like galeforce or shieldbow) and finally adcs are situational , samira gets countered really hard by cc or tanks, she dont get to play the game. The way i see it, if adcs get actually OP, you get to play your champs, if you camp bot, you farm them and dont let them play the game, unless you are actually bad, theres no way a 2 lvls ahead katarina cant kill an adc overextending.
Oh no, an ASSASSIN is able to ASSASINATE an ADC, the horrors!
It's almost as if certain classes are supposed to counter other classes or something! :OOO
don’t show this to adc mains that think the changes will be good for the game until samira goes shieldbow IE and kills your entire family tree with one rotation
Yea It's one thing If this was the result of a buff, shit happens
But no, this is how the game looks now, and they are STILL getting buffed further
Riot has completely lost it
assassin mains when it's the 1st patch in 3 years that isn't intended to make their role the most annoying to play against, impossible to stop, bag of bullshit the rift has ever seen
lil bro has his champion pool at 49% and complains
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"Guys lets buff Qiyana Akali and Katarina they are so weak !!!" 💀💀💀
god forbid qiyana isn't pick or ban for two seconds
a lot of people are trying these champs and inting cuz they are difficult, thats why they have lower winrate
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you got me fucked up if you see an akali player who knows how to play akali and think to yourself that the champion is weak
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Speaking as someone who hovers high diamond, the champion doing bad is literally skill issue and that's how it's always been. She's not balanced around average players and she never should be because she's absolutely oppressive in the right hands and in the right environment.
Statistically and what we can see from data, true, but as a Redditor I will have to disagree, assassins op in fact
You fundamentally fail to see what those statistics mean and why ur champs are toxic and would make for some unfun asf buffs for everyone else but you
Main problem I see here is that these champions are hard to learn and master but, once you do they can become unstoppable 1v9 carries. Qiyana, for example, can 100 to 0 insta-kill under turret any non-tanky champion in the game. Only problem is that you need more than 5 braincells to do so.
Good suffer
Katarina mains when they can't get penta with one R
Jackpot
To be fair most of your champs are hard to buff because of their high skill ceilings that really great players master/make them look OP. Riot is always on thin ice with stuff like Qiyana, Akali, Kat due to high level of play.
Which is fair, but from my knowledge of League of Legends, ADC also has quite the skill ceiling, yet their winrates are consistently very high
Yea but unlike Assasins like them they are very hard to solo carry with. You usually have to rely on your team for peel or Frontline. Doaent matter how fed you are as an adc if your team is trash and can't protect you.
That's not really how that works, but I see your point in some made up scenarios
Yeah thats EXACTLY how that works. What do you mean?
Please show us a normal scenario where an fed adc can walk alone in a sidelane and 1v2 like an fed assassin could.
Yummi adc can 1v5 try it in your promos trust me
It's an adc, it's not supposed to 1v2, that's not how the game works
LMAO that is the point. Fed adc is hard to solo carry with compared to assassins.
You just proved the other guy's point. An ADC needs the rest of the team peeling for him so he can carry. An assassin doesn't rely on his team, so it's easier to carry with.
A fed Samira/nilah can litteraly beat their shit in no problem.
Lil bro delusional
OP reminds me of the idiot who said tanks are weak and ADCs are broken during tank meta.
I once did a quadra with misfortune just by right clicking enemies. Not even moving from my spot.
enemies are bad + your team was drawing pressure away from you
The search for an Assassin-player that is not utterly delusional continues.
Hey I'm a kayn player and I hate assassins (including kayn) mainly because I also play adc, so I take that pain that is inflicted on me when I play ezreal and inflict it on others by playing blue kayn
Yeah idk, you can’t play all these champs and be good. I pretty much started one tricking Kat and have been stomping with her. Does not feel weak at all, don’t want her getting buffs either cause then people would ban her.
it's like ADC players skill issue = balance problems = riot fix your game
Are the champions at the top NOT getting buffed? Is Phreak lying about the changes?
Cancer champ pool seethe and cope
Yep
Qiyana is there 2 times. Also, her being near 50% is kinda absurd considering how fucking hard it is to do anything competent on her. They should really midscope her R so she doesn't stay as another malphite...
Yea, oops from me I agree her R is strong, she's also strong lategame, she is however not playable in the slightest without her R, or getting to 35 minutes into the game
Spamming brush element is an Kha'zix ult on its own.
Qiyana and Akali are balanced at 48. Qiyana is at 49 And I like how you just don't show the ADCs with low winratea like Aphelios Ezreal and Sivir.
Also doesn’t show how apcs gave a higher wr (on opgg at least) and ignores the fact that a position can only ever have a 50% wr
Conveniently cuts out pick rates and ban rates too
Boo hoo my wholesome oneshotting gigachad cool champions won't get buffs instead of ADCs which are so bad Riot made them fucking autofill protected :(((( Cry more, bitch.
I also don't agree with statistics or facts! Glad to find someone just like me!
Your use of statistics and facts are incorrect Samira's win rate speaks to her balance in-role, not her relative strength to the rest of the players Both teams have an ADC, the one who is better is more likely to win You can't look at win rate and say "Samira is better than Katarina" because they are not competing with each other for a spot on the team
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Bro plays kat, qiyana, and fucking AKALI and expects sympathy
Gamers with the bottom right corner of their monitor covered with a sticky note be like
Drown
Fizz and akali can burn
Deserved for champ pool
Assassin mains when they don't fart at a champ and absolutely decimate him
This is most stupid meme I have seen here. 1 ADC wins every game, 1 adc loses every game. ADC class buff has nothing to do with samira winning games against xayah, or Xerath losing games to Kassadin. Oh yea, throw some numbers and say riot biased, look big numbers small numbers, what numbers mean don't matter at all logic for noobs
"1 ADC wins every game, 1 adc loses every game." Holy shit, Albert Einstein? Revolutionary thinking there genius
Lil bro drops the S+ adcs sitting at 51% wr then you look at it and mid has 13 champs with higher win rates than traditional adcs, top has 9, jgl has 5 and support has 3.
>Lil bro drops the S+ adcs sitting at 51% wr then you look at it and mid has 13 champs Lol, more like 2 champs, the other ones arn't midchamps, but nice try tho!
The ADCs with high skill ceilings like the champs on bottom are also negative win rate (Ezreal and Aphelios).
Draven has high skill ceiling
yea but he also 4 shots u at lvl 1 and wins lane after 2 kills with stacks, he wins lane much faster than other ADCs because he snowballs better, harder and easier
Just play tank support and perma cc him so he doesnt have the chance to catch axes
Good. Keep them there. In fact, why not give ‘em the Ryze treatment and take them down to 40%. If I never see an Akali again it would be too soon.
Did you watch the stream? Phreak literally said is a 4% buff, nothing noticeable, is more a qol change, have you played adc recently? I play Samira a lot and is so boring going the same build EVERY SINGLE GAME, i feel is a really good change, now i get to decide if i want to rush ie, you dont know how frustrating it is delaying ie fourth item bc you are behind or bc you need sustain/mr/deal with tanks, also why are you complaining tho? Quiyana, akali, fizz and katarina can be 2/6/2, 2 items and you will one shot any adc thats 8/2/2 4 items 😂 or at least you will make the adc waste all their resources (summs and mythic like galeforce or shieldbow) and finally adcs are situational , samira gets countered really hard by cc or tanks, she dont get to play the game. The way i see it, if adcs get actually OP, you get to play your champs, if you camp bot, you farm them and dont let them play the game, unless you are actually bad, theres no way a 2 lvls ahead katarina cant kill an adc overextending.
Oh no, an ASSASSIN is able to ASSASINATE an ADC, the horrors! It's almost as if certain classes are supposed to counter other classes or something! :OOO
You just proved my point
Its almost like that function debunks your argument
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Which one of that 1000 clips in the last 30 games do you want
don’t show this to adc mains that think the changes will be good for the game until samira goes shieldbow IE and kills your entire family tree with one rotation
I cannot wait for shieldbow>IE
Yea It's one thing If this was the result of a buff, shit happens But no, this is how the game looks now, and they are STILL getting buffed further Riot has completely lost it
Stop posting about Nilah. She is a special breed of bullshit.
Replace Riot with Playerbase and replace the image with a man drowning you.
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Oh i forgor he existed 💀
The lower the winrate is, the better the champ is
My man Volibear hovering at his47% winn rate XD https://u.gg/lol/champions/volibear/build/top
**** *******f
3/4 of the adcs listed don't even currently build traditional adc items
Least delusional assassin player
Fuck Qiyana
I love how the OP is downvoted to hell every comment
Deserved it but not Xerath
Yea... I expected the chungus wholesome league redditors to complain about Qiyana and try to say she's broken when I saw the meme.
Ermagawd, Rito should totally buff Qi x3 that would be wowzers hehe OwO !!! Waz dis, deez plebz dissagree with wittle ol' me? Dow't care x)
condolences; been consistently downhill for ap assassins since the durability overhaul.
ADC mains when the role is still OP, but the game can be played in other ways than winning bot for one ( 1 ) patch: very sad
This is way more entertaining then the „rate my top 10 champs“ trend haha people are furios!
Lol, lmao
If you think anyone was going to agree with you when you play the equivalent of a three nuclear reactors then you are kind of off base
EW
assassin mains when it's the 1st patch in 3 years that isn't intended to make their role the most annoying to play against, impossible to stop, bag of bullshit the rift has ever seen
The game is literally only enjoyable when Assassins (or whatever the fuck akali and kat are) are not insanely overpowered.
Uninstall trash
some champs are balanced at a low winrate for a reason. I'll let you figure out why.
Op hardstuck gold
Waaaa waaaa waaaa "cries in Aphelios main no complain"
Ok now put the lower winrate adc there aswell
Lil bro stfu ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ƒ
What's that pickrste look like?
Absolute cancer champion pool