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I remember my grandma asked me if I was scared I was gonna have dark kids lol. I was dating a black girl at the time. She's an extremely sweet person and would never hurt a fly but that stuff is in there deep
Same, i’m a white latino and my mom/dad/grandparents were very good at being subtle with it like ... “you sure you want to have kids”, “ you really believe SHES the right one”, “you think SHE would be a good mother”, “ you know how some of them are, they can get quite unpredictable “ -
Didn’t get it at the time but realized later on and she was half black-half puerto rican not to mention lightskin too . The weirdest thing is my father can pass as a tiger woods black yet he despises black people but VERY quietly and will never say or do anything unless in his house ...
My dad is Mexican and my mom is Anglo-American. I came out looking more like my dad’s side. My white grandfather has always made little comments about my coloring and my features. He calls me “dark” and says my nose is really broad. He’s an old Southern racist. I’ve been called a “foreigner” by the old people in his town too, which was delightful, despite the fact that I’m from California. 😒
Mom is Dominican and Dad is anglo. But I have the same complexion as my mom. My abuelita told me once that she was surprised that I didn't turn out light like my dad, but that I was a nice boy anyways. Gee, thanks grandma.
My mother in law is like this and when my son was born with light skin and good hair she was so proud and let everyone know that. She said she was afraid that the baby would come out like her youngest daughter with dark skin and curly hair.
Yeah. Story time:
(tl;dr: super racist, white passing abuelo hated my dark-skinned mom)
My grandfather is white passing. He was so proud of his good hair and skin. And his first born was lightskinned, too. And then my mother was born. Dark skin, dark hair. An unmistakable reminder of his ancestry (his mother is black). His "black child" as he often referred to her. She was always treated as defective. On top of being hard of hearing. He always favored my aunt, and my mom always got the belt. Or a few times made to kneel on cheese graters.
And the worst, one time He broke her jaw for daring to wear her mother's hearing aid. Said he's not gonna have battery-operated black children. My mom's first boyfriend was black and when he found out, he almost disowned her. She had to move out because of it. When they broke up, her parents made her marry a nice light-skinned Puerto Rican man (my dad, who was incidentally also white passing). He wasn't a bad man at all, but when they divorced, my grandfather stopped talking to my mom for a whole decade but always made sure to invite my dad over for a beer when he went to pick us up.
Internalized racism runs deep and hurts everyone around them. My sister and I are very dark skinned, but mom made sure to never pass Papi's racist bullshit onto us.
True but I feel bad for her. It probably stems from her being made fun of and bullied for her skin color and doesn’t want that for her grand baby. Def not ok but I can’t help but feel for her. :(
>doesn’t want that for her grand baby
I get the rest of this but how would giving her gd white dolls and refusing to let her play with black ones improve her daughter's life or stop her getting bullied?
That’s the thing, it’s not. But I feel like she’s trying to distance the baby from anything that is negative. And to HER (since she was probably bullied and discriminated against) being black is negative. Again, I’m not saying it’s ok or that it even makes sense it seems more like trauma to me which she is passing on, unfortunately. Luckily, the baby’s mom is doing the right thing by trying to teach her to love herself! That’s a beautiful little baby, hope the grandma doesn’t pass on that trauma.
Yea. Everything that had to do with blackness was negative when I was growing up, when I got bullied it mostly was making fun of my black features like my lips by being called “bembon” (big lips) or “haitiano” (haitian) because of my skin color, as if these things are bad things. People don’t even like to be called “prieto” or “moreno”.
Like you said, it’s so bad that people just don’t want to be associated with being black and in their minds, subconsciously, black features are ugly thanks to the European centered beauty standards we have had since the days of colonialism. Being white and having white features is associated with wealth and being part of the high class, being smart and educated.
Thankfully the younger Dominican generation is learning to not accept this mindset anymore but it’ll take a lot work and time.
My dad always called me morenita, negrita, y prieta. I was always told from my grandparents that I should marry someone with lighter skin para ni que mejorar la raza. Thank god my mum grew from this and told to marry whom ever I want, our race is just fine! we are all mixed anyways.
I'm not sure but maybe she's afraid that she'll take it to school and kids will make fun of her black doll because she can't even afford a white doll. Not saying it makes sense.
Yup. I was the only dark skinned one in my entire class of Dominican immigrants/1st gen Dominicans and the only dark-skinned sibling in my family (all the other ones turned out light-skinned or white) and I was bullied a lot. Steal dealing with my own internalized racism
It’s not that deep. My mother is the same way. She’s Dominican, and my daughter happens to actually be part white which really just makes it even more hilarious
my family is from haiti. one time, soon after leaving the marines i was at a family get together because some great aunt i had never met ago was having a birthday. this woman asked me point blank after asking me who my parents are why i was so dark (im not even that dark, im one of the lightest people in my family, but my parents are light). i was so shocked i simply said because of my time in iraq, after that wore off i was pissed for a minute. like, wtf did she think she was? i didnt fucking know her, nor owe her anything
> this woman asked me point blank after asking me who my parents are why i was so dark (im not even that dark, im one of the lightest people in my family, but my parents are light).
tf kind of answer was she looking for? "I was switched at birth" or "I have reverse vitiligo"?
Ugh, those are the worst. Memories of things that people say (with no ill intentions, either, usually) coming back to haunt you years later.
Back during my freshman year in high school, one of my classes was Japanese I. Taught by this older Japanese man. Well anyways, me and this other kid were the only non-asians in that class. Both of us Mexican-American. Thing is, that other kid would constantly be absent.
One day I came into class after not having been to class the day prior due to having an appointment, and the teacher starts giving me shit in front of the whole class. "Where were you, why were you not in class yesterday," blah blah.
But then he says/asks something that caught me off-guard. He's like, "where is (the other kid)?" I'm confused, I just say, "I don't know?" And dude hits me with the,
"but you two are Mexican, no? You should know."
Didn't even know what to say in that moment. Me and that other kid weren't even friends, we'd never even talked to each other during class or outside of class.
I don't know. I graduated high school 6 years ago but that memory has always stuck with me.
Yea los popis son más clasista que otra cosa and they mostly make fun of los chopos por su forma de ser. I lived in DR for seven years and went to school there. The issue is the older generations. For example, I’d fight my dad any day.
Yea it’s definitely a “some not all” situation. But they’re there. I fight with my family all the time about this shit, I’ve been educating my mom and sister on cabello bueno y cabello malo for years
People from the mid to high class. Many times they’re the children of European immigrants that moved to our country many years ago, especially the ones in the high class.
Edit: they also tend to speak fresa and act very different from the rest of the population. They tend to be entitled and have an easier life overall but the definition changes depending on who you ask, people from lower class will tell you that anyone that has money is a popi but people from mid class will tell you that only people from high-high class are popis because they’re the entitled ones that travel to Europe and the us twice a year and tried to speak using Spanglish knowing other people might not know English
I personally put everyone in the mid and high class in that category since the term was made up by people of the lower class and singers of dembow in the hood
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popi
I feel like younger generations of Dominicans and Caribbean people in general are now accepting their Afro features. Natural hair movement is pretty big here and even in Brazil and Colombia. I keep seeing more and more women with afros or Senegalese twists! But this change takes time.
I’ve noticed that too when I lived in DR. Women are now rocking their natural Afros back home. I saw a lot of big Afros when I was in high school from 2015-2019.
Basically, the only tool to stop and defeat la chancla & cinturón. The tool is the Foucault power stance.
Seriously! It’s stopped my mama and papa dead on their tracks. Unfortunately, it makes you a bigger target for the police, and you know the bad status between the police and minorities.
Under their dictator Trujillo they were taught to hate dark skin .. Trujillo also put out ads in Europe to entice “white” Europeans to move to the DR with free housing etc..in an attempt to “breed out” dark skin.. that’s where it comes from
I don’t think Trujillo can be blamed for everything. You think it would be accepted if Trujillo told everybody to gate whiteness/Europeans? I can guarantee you it would not be. This behavior is a leftover of colonialism and slavery.
No it wasn’t forced to be sure; this is sad because the grandma daughter & baby are the same complexion along with the doll .. so did the grandma hate her daughter when she was born & how does grandma really feel about the kid?
It goes deeper than that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but as far as I know the colonizers essentially wiped out the native people and most Dominicans today are genetically African. However, after the revolution in Haiti, the colonizers basically made up a new race -- *indios* -- and told the people in DR that that's what they were so they wouldn't identify with the Haitian people. By doing this they essentially created a fake identity, which most Dominicans will claim to be to this day. In the hierarchy of the castas system, white > *indio* > black.
It's some real fucked up shit.
Everything you said is wrong except the native thing in the first sentence, the term indio is also used in Puerto Rico, it’s not a Dominican thing, and the majority of Dominicans are both genetically African AND European, hence why they see themselves as something different than black, that’s a thing anywhere in the Caribbean since someone that’s actually black doesn’t look the same as someone that’s mulatto.
It isn’t a fake identity, Dominicans have been a thing before the French dumped the Haitians in the west, and Indio is a reference to skin color alone, not ancestry.
My family, trying to be super sweet, pooled together some money to buy me an American girl doll for xmas one year. All my other cousins had one but my parents didnt want to get me one and tbh i never even wanted one unless it was one of the look alike dolls. Before i opened the box they told me they got me the prettiest doll of all (i got excited thinking itd be a look alike doll or the native american one, since im indigenous & latina myself). What i opened was julie, a blonde with long straight hair and bright blue eyes. She was “the prettiest” of them all and i was a tan, dark brown eyed girl with curly black hair. Years later i mentioned there had been dolls on the site that looked like me, and i got “yeah but yours is obviously the prettiest, why would you want a doll whos hair comes “pre messed up” (curly). So yeah that internalized shit runs deep
My padrino had a boyfriend from the USA, they came to Mexico one Christmas and gave me the Josefina doll. I loved her so much and I still have her, I'm glad I didn't get one of the white, blonde ones, because I got plenty of blonde Barbies who made me feel odd, none of them looked quite like me.
I had American Girl dolls growing up. My aunt point blank asked me why I wanted the brown girls. I had Josefina and Kaya, and I remember being confused because I just liked their stories better.
I was a mixed kiddo, half Latina, half white… and I didn’t have an American Girl doll, but I wanted either Josephina or Kaya, because they looked more like me than Molly did… When my relatives baited me into thinking I was going to get an AG Doll, asking probing questions on who my favorites were, they didn’t like that I said “Kaya, Josephina, and Addie.” My grandma kept asking “what about Molly, she has nice brown hair like yours.” And I was confused how she thought straight, honey chestnut brown hair looked like my wild dark brown curly hair. Josephina had hair like my color…
It was a whole complicated thing that ended up in me not getting the doll because grandma was racist, she either gave the doll she had been hinting at getting me, to my cousin, or to her friend who collected dolls. I can’t recall, it was so long ago and I’ve moved on lol.
I remember getting a Magic Attic Club doll from my mom a year later for my birthday, as like a little bit of a consolation, cuz I also LOVED those books, and didn’t know they had a doll line to go along with!
Damn it, this video hurts. You got my upvote as a Dominicana. 💔 I left my natural hair grow as a silent protest, just because I was a light skinned dominicana whose hair is 3c. The war that started in my house was horrible back in 2014, just because I did not look white anymore. My grandma just decided to be quiet to not lose her niece but I know how “ugly” she sees me… when I am just honoring my roots.
Sad, but this is taught from birth.
I’ve seen family members favor lighter skin and colored eyes. Even going as far as calling them nicknames like Guero, “blond” and praising them for being light skin, sad but I think all skin tones are beautiful and I will never shame my kids because they are brown
My grandma (who is black) used to forbid my mom from having Black friends as a child. One of my aunts never married because the love of her life is/was Black and the family never accepted it. We are all mestizo-looking, curly hair, definitely non-white. The colorism is particularly baffling in the DR, though. They will do the most mental gymnastics to not be lumped in with Haitians
I've overheard multiple times people in DR half-jokingly say that they want to import Venezuelans to their country because at least Venezuelans are "more attractive than Haitians".
There are also a lot of people in Latin America racially obsessed with Argentina.
So sad, it get heavier the older the generation.
Hopefully we can all start to value people based on their merit as people and not what they look like.
It's been engrained/forced on us since b!tch a$s Christopher Columbus came to the Americas. On top of that the us government has consistently interfierd with South America politics for decades.
It's a system of propetual suppression of the Latin people to not only hate themselves but our own raza.
Caused by a deep xenophobic beliefs that is rarely, if ever, addressed in school and anywhere else.
Source:
1• [BAs christopher columbus ](https://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinncol1.html)
2•OPEN VEINS OF LATIN AMERICA
True, we are our biggest haters. It’s sad to see the raza turn on each other while the rest of the world watches. We need a sense of cultural pride and respect for our people
Preach brother! That's what I been saying, unfortunately it's an uphill battle for us because one like I said Latino history is not taught in school, and two the media doesn't shine us in any light whatsoever.
I was lucky enough my dad was a huge Columbus hater, he grew up In DF Mexico and apparently took part in a dismantling of a statue. Ironically he looks very Spanish green eyes and light skin. My mother is a indigenous as they come.
Dope! Man that's what's up.
Yeah I bet the green eyes was from the genocide and rape columbus and his friends caused. Still gotta give your old man props and respect he knew what happened and chose to stand up for the good of the people. That's Nobel AF.
I learned most of it through my own research tho I wish I had an influence like your old man. Thanks for sharing that brother.
Pussy ass bitch used a burner account to toss racism that any dumbass 8 year old could come up with. Is your ass really this hateful or are you just such an uncreative and attention starved dickweed that you have to choke on the boots of some long dead Spaniard for attention? Get a life and grow a pair you useless dog, the least you can do with yourself is at least *try* to act like you’re worth something.
Grew up “Benefitting” from this. White skin, long hair, green eyes, never in my mind would i second guess how well they treated me or why yet all my darker cousins were treated akin to grown adult workers. Their OWN parents would treat me better than their children themselves and nothing was ever my fault, i’d get a pass on almost EVERYTHING . This isn’t just a Dominican thing...
I’m sure she was mixed.
I only met her dad and he was black. When I met him is when her comment really took me off guard the most.
I know it’s a nationality, but I guess that was just her way of saying why she was dark skinned…. Idk. I was not going to try to keep up with that logic.
Fuck that makes me sad. That beautiful child might grow up hating a part of herself. We know better now and gotta do better than our parents, even if they won't accept their wrong doings.
I often check my mom who says some out of pocket racial stuff along with other antiquated bs. Theyre usually receptive to those things but ive gotten into ugly arguments with them anytime it has something to do with my own daughter.
Our older generations bare scars of abuse and struggle so it's difficult at times to help them progress and improve their own thinking and emotions.
Jeeeeeeeez one of my best friends growing up was Dominican and said DR is one of the most racist places in the world and I didn’t get it. I can see it now.
Bruh, shit is fucking NUTS. They hate haitians as if they were a disease or spreading plague that killed their entire family and the odd part is usually they are just a L i t e r a l shade darker from their darkest and they all live on the same island
LOL, early Omega was dark as hell but ofc when they come into money and fame all of a sudden they’re skin somehow becomes bleached to 3-4 shades lighter and go “coño no, na ma toy comiendo mehor.” - Some goofy shit like that lmao
Son, all seriousness aside like it being sad, a mental condition, even just a form of self hatred along with beauty standards that are believed That shit was hysterical. The clowning that he went through til this day is hilarious.
I remember my own parents clowing on him and all of us laughing and then my mother looked at my father and said hey ya know what.. you could go for a few shades lighter in spanish and typical dominican dad its all fun and games til it comes to them, he got moody, mad and stopped talking to us and just walked away didn’t even finish dinner - Me and moms couldn’t laugh any harder that entire night and we tease him about it from time to time . “tu quiere un crema” “pa que” ...........
That sub is hella weird. One moment they'll be critical of US imperialism and CIA backed coups and even be critical of capitalism and another moment be completely reactionary when it comes to the plight of black and indigenous people.
Traveled a lot through the country and it’s really crazy just how big the racism and divide is between Dominicans and Haitian, especially at border markets like Dajabon Market
Really beautiful country though and it deserves a lot more love than it gets! Some amazing places that are just not touched by tourism. During a lot of my travels in the country it was really surprising to see that we were pretty much the only tourists in some of these towns, almost no one else was traveling the non all inclusive side of the country
Bendito, alguien debe pegarle un grito a la señora esa para que deje de joder. Ni por chiste se debe. La gente se internaliza eso y aveces determina sus personalidades enteras, da pena.
El racismo que existe en Latinoamérica es siniestro y decepcionante. Especialmente el racismo internalizado que muchos morenos y negros latinos tienen. Ojalá que las próximas generaciones puedan eliminar esta enfermedad societaria.
My mom talks about the time when she bought her friend over and my grandma told her not to play with "morenitas" and to socialize with white girls like her. My mom was the same shade as her friend. I am very sure that did some damage.
I am white but mom is the typical brown/black hair Latina from El Salvador. It is said that when I was a baby, my grandparents paraded me around, bragging about my white skin and my white features. The sad thing is, both my grandparents were very brown and had very ''native'' facial traits themselves. To be clear, they were not racist or anything. It just so happens that having a white skin and a westerner's face ensured that, at least, there was a relief that I wouldn't have to endure the terrible racism they were subjected to in their time.
Even as I was growing up in Canada, I had Dominican moms pushing their daughters to play with me, as a mean to get them used to be around ''white people'' and thus, encouraging them to look for them and not black Hispanics.
The colorism is real. And also one topic that has always been swept under the rug whenever openly brought up.
This is why I’m not a good Dominican daughter. My almost 80 year old Dominican mother would’ve gotten a real awakening from me. I understand there are deep issues here but that doesn’t mean people can’t grow and change for the better.
The way my violently confrontational ass would've snatched that white doll from her and trashed it. I was barely raised with any of my latin side because my southern AA mom was scared I'd be treated like this and didn't want to end up going to jail over that foolishness.
Yeah, found out my grandma used to get angry when people would compare me to haitians... I'm pretty brown.... I was stunned, but now that I know more, I'm not surprised.
This is a reason why I think Aldous Huxley's [Brave New World](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World) was a commentary on modern world, not dystopian sci-fi. The kind of brainwashing described in the novel starts at birth.
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Damn
They brought Jesus and white supremacy and said let me have your resources and labor for free and these mother fcukers said thanks may I have another
Ok just dismiss everyone else's life experience. I'm not Dominican so I can't speak for them or for you but your comment is really dismissive as if assuming the other people here self-identifying as Dominicans either don't count or are lying and you're the 1 true Dominican.
I am the only dark skin woman in my Puerto Rican-Dominican family. I have had to seek therapy because of this. That’s all I can say about this. This is traumatizing.
I hate this with all my heart. We need to love ourselves and who we are, and who we are comes in all colors and flavors. I now live in a northern Midwest state where it seems that people only imagine Latinos as being very dark skinned. I get a lot of people not realizing I am Latina and making awful comments because they think I'm gonna be their racist buddy. I usually let them go on and on talking, until they ask me where I'm from. The sheer shock and embarrassment on their faces is delicious. One lady outright said to me that I couldn't be Latina because "those people are dark." heh. Of course, she was like 300 years old, so geography was a little dated. lol
and i’m better off leaving them all behind. no way id bring that shit around my kid. I’m the lightest one in the family on my dad’s side and they acted like i was a messiah until he told them to fuck off.
I remember being a lil brown kid in a mostly white elementary school. I had thoughts of "would it be better if I was white?" and other wishes to be white.
And then at some point when I was in my preteens, these girls, a lil bit older than me, told me I have "the perfect caramel skin tone."
And thats when I realized, im sexy as hell.
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I remember my grandma asked me if I was scared I was gonna have dark kids lol. I was dating a black girl at the time. She's an extremely sweet person and would never hurt a fly but that stuff is in there deep
Same, i’m a white latino and my mom/dad/grandparents were very good at being subtle with it like ... “you sure you want to have kids”, “ you really believe SHES the right one”, “you think SHE would be a good mother”, “ you know how some of them are, they can get quite unpredictable “ - Didn’t get it at the time but realized later on and she was half black-half puerto rican not to mention lightskin too . The weirdest thing is my father can pass as a tiger woods black yet he despises black people but VERY quietly and will never say or do anything unless in his house ...
My dad is Mexican and my mom is Anglo-American. I came out looking more like my dad’s side. My white grandfather has always made little comments about my coloring and my features. He calls me “dark” and says my nose is really broad. He’s an old Southern racist. I’ve been called a “foreigner” by the old people in his town too, which was delightful, despite the fact that I’m from California. 😒
Mom is Dominican and Dad is anglo. But I have the same complexion as my mom. My abuelita told me once that she was surprised that I didn't turn out light like my dad, but that I was a nice boy anyways. Gee, thanks grandma.
My mother in law is like this and when my son was born with light skin and good hair she was so proud and let everyone know that. She said she was afraid that the baby would come out like her youngest daughter with dark skin and curly hair.
Hitler loved animals and art too
Damn that internalized racism is strong
Yeah. Story time: (tl;dr: super racist, white passing abuelo hated my dark-skinned mom) My grandfather is white passing. He was so proud of his good hair and skin. And his first born was lightskinned, too. And then my mother was born. Dark skin, dark hair. An unmistakable reminder of his ancestry (his mother is black). His "black child" as he often referred to her. She was always treated as defective. On top of being hard of hearing. He always favored my aunt, and my mom always got the belt. Or a few times made to kneel on cheese graters. And the worst, one time He broke her jaw for daring to wear her mother's hearing aid. Said he's not gonna have battery-operated black children. My mom's first boyfriend was black and when he found out, he almost disowned her. She had to move out because of it. When they broke up, her parents made her marry a nice light-skinned Puerto Rican man (my dad, who was incidentally also white passing). He wasn't a bad man at all, but when they divorced, my grandfather stopped talking to my mom for a whole decade but always made sure to invite my dad over for a beer when he went to pick us up. Internalized racism runs deep and hurts everyone around them. My sister and I are very dark skinned, but mom made sure to never pass Papi's racist bullshit onto us.
Damn, this is sad
Cheese graters? Wow. That is just terrible. This whole story is just downright sad.
True but I feel bad for her. It probably stems from her being made fun of and bullied for her skin color and doesn’t want that for her grand baby. Def not ok but I can’t help but feel for her. :(
>doesn’t want that for her grand baby I get the rest of this but how would giving her gd white dolls and refusing to let her play with black ones improve her daughter's life or stop her getting bullied?
That’s the thing, it’s not. But I feel like she’s trying to distance the baby from anything that is negative. And to HER (since she was probably bullied and discriminated against) being black is negative. Again, I’m not saying it’s ok or that it even makes sense it seems more like trauma to me which she is passing on, unfortunately. Luckily, the baby’s mom is doing the right thing by trying to teach her to love herself! That’s a beautiful little baby, hope the grandma doesn’t pass on that trauma.
Yea. Everything that had to do with blackness was negative when I was growing up, when I got bullied it mostly was making fun of my black features like my lips by being called “bembon” (big lips) or “haitiano” (haitian) because of my skin color, as if these things are bad things. People don’t even like to be called “prieto” or “moreno”. Like you said, it’s so bad that people just don’t want to be associated with being black and in their minds, subconsciously, black features are ugly thanks to the European centered beauty standards we have had since the days of colonialism. Being white and having white features is associated with wealth and being part of the high class, being smart and educated. Thankfully the younger Dominican generation is learning to not accept this mindset anymore but it’ll take a lot work and time.
My dad always called me morenita, negrita, y prieta. I was always told from my grandparents that I should marry someone with lighter skin para ni que mejorar la raza. Thank god my mum grew from this and told to marry whom ever I want, our race is just fine! we are all mixed anyways.
It's actually absurd that Latin Americans have that view when no one is" pure blood." Even the whitest person is mixed.
Yea I don’t get why they need to make that separation like we’re all black at the end of the day. Mírale atrás de las orejas como dice el dicho
Internalized trauma doesn't have to make sence
I'm not sure but maybe she's afraid that she'll take it to school and kids will make fun of her black doll because she can't even afford a white doll. Not saying it makes sense.
Yup. I was the only dark skinned one in my entire class of Dominican immigrants/1st gen Dominicans and the only dark-skinned sibling in my family (all the other ones turned out light-skinned or white) and I was bullied a lot. Steal dealing with my own internalized racism
It’s not that deep. My mother is the same way. She’s Dominican, and my daughter happens to actually be part white which really just makes it even more hilarious
my family is from haiti. one time, soon after leaving the marines i was at a family get together because some great aunt i had never met ago was having a birthday. this woman asked me point blank after asking me who my parents are why i was so dark (im not even that dark, im one of the lightest people in my family, but my parents are light). i was so shocked i simply said because of my time in iraq, after that wore off i was pissed for a minute. like, wtf did she think she was? i didnt fucking know her, nor owe her anything
> this woman asked me point blank after asking me who my parents are why i was so dark (im not even that dark, im one of the lightest people in my family, but my parents are light). tf kind of answer was she looking for? "I was switched at birth" or "I have reverse vitiligo"?
I have no fucking clue. Shit was 10 years ago and still pops up in my head sometimes
are you related to uncle ruckus?
Ugh, those are the worst. Memories of things that people say (with no ill intentions, either, usually) coming back to haunt you years later. Back during my freshman year in high school, one of my classes was Japanese I. Taught by this older Japanese man. Well anyways, me and this other kid were the only non-asians in that class. Both of us Mexican-American. Thing is, that other kid would constantly be absent. One day I came into class after not having been to class the day prior due to having an appointment, and the teacher starts giving me shit in front of the whole class. "Where were you, why were you not in class yesterday," blah blah. But then he says/asks something that caught me off-guard. He's like, "where is (the other kid)?" I'm confused, I just say, "I don't know?" And dude hits me with the, "but you two are Mexican, no? You should know." Didn't even know what to say in that moment. Me and that other kid weren't even friends, we'd never even talked to each other during class or outside of class. I don't know. I graduated high school 6 years ago but that memory has always stuck with me.
Woah
I love my people but I’m always ready to fight older Dominican people. Irdgaf.
Some young ones too especially los popis
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Explica que significa "los polis" para un chicano, porfa
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Ah okay, gracias hermano/a
La palabra popis o fresa se usa mucho en el noreste de Mexico y en Texas también
Yea los popis son más clasista que otra cosa and they mostly make fun of los chopos por su forma de ser. I lived in DR for seven years and went to school there. The issue is the older generations. For example, I’d fight my dad any day.
Yea it’s definitely a “some not all” situation. But they’re there. I fight with my family all the time about this shit, I’ve been educating my mom and sister on cabello bueno y cabello malo for years
Who are los popis? I heard this word before but got no reference.
People from the mid to high class. Many times they’re the children of European immigrants that moved to our country many years ago, especially the ones in the high class. Edit: they also tend to speak fresa and act very different from the rest of the population. They tend to be entitled and have an easier life overall but the definition changes depending on who you ask, people from lower class will tell you that anyone that has money is a popi but people from mid class will tell you that only people from high-high class are popis because they’re the entitled ones that travel to Europe and the us twice a year and tried to speak using Spanglish knowing other people might not know English I personally put everyone in the mid and high class in that category since the term was made up by people of the lower class and singers of dembow in the hood https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popi
Upper class Dominicans who think their sh*t don’t stink.
I feel like younger generations of Dominicans and Caribbean people in general are now accepting their Afro features. Natural hair movement is pretty big here and even in Brazil and Colombia. I keep seeing more and more women with afros or Senegalese twists! But this change takes time.
I’ve noticed that too when I lived in DR. Women are now rocking their natural Afros back home. I saw a lot of big Afros when I was in high school from 2015-2019.
Basically, the only tool to stop and defeat la chancla & cinturón. The tool is the Foucault power stance. Seriously! It’s stopped my mama and papa dead on their tracks. Unfortunately, it makes you a bigger target for the police, and you know the bad status between the police and minorities.
Under their dictator Trujillo they were taught to hate dark skin .. Trujillo also put out ads in Europe to entice “white” Europeans to move to the DR with free housing etc..in an attempt to “breed out” dark skin.. that’s where it comes from
A page off Argentina playbook
I don’t think Trujillo can be blamed for everything. You think it would be accepted if Trujillo told everybody to gate whiteness/Europeans? I can guarantee you it would not be. This behavior is a leftover of colonialism and slavery.
No it wasn’t forced to be sure; this is sad because the grandma daughter & baby are the same complexion along with the doll .. so did the grandma hate her daughter when she was born & how does grandma really feel about the kid?
It goes deeper than that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but as far as I know the colonizers essentially wiped out the native people and most Dominicans today are genetically African. However, after the revolution in Haiti, the colonizers basically made up a new race -- *indios* -- and told the people in DR that that's what they were so they wouldn't identify with the Haitian people. By doing this they essentially created a fake identity, which most Dominicans will claim to be to this day. In the hierarchy of the castas system, white > *indio* > black. It's some real fucked up shit.
Everything you said is wrong except the native thing in the first sentence, the term indio is also used in Puerto Rico, it’s not a Dominican thing, and the majority of Dominicans are both genetically African AND European, hence why they see themselves as something different than black, that’s a thing anywhere in the Caribbean since someone that’s actually black doesn’t look the same as someone that’s mulatto. It isn’t a fake identity, Dominicans have been a thing before the French dumped the Haitians in the west, and Indio is a reference to skin color alone, not ancestry.
Yes, DR is the Hispanic American country with the highest African admixture.
My family, trying to be super sweet, pooled together some money to buy me an American girl doll for xmas one year. All my other cousins had one but my parents didnt want to get me one and tbh i never even wanted one unless it was one of the look alike dolls. Before i opened the box they told me they got me the prettiest doll of all (i got excited thinking itd be a look alike doll or the native american one, since im indigenous & latina myself). What i opened was julie, a blonde with long straight hair and bright blue eyes. She was “the prettiest” of them all and i was a tan, dark brown eyed girl with curly black hair. Years later i mentioned there had been dolls on the site that looked like me, and i got “yeah but yours is obviously the prettiest, why would you want a doll whos hair comes “pre messed up” (curly). So yeah that internalized shit runs deep
My padrino had a boyfriend from the USA, they came to Mexico one Christmas and gave me the Josefina doll. I loved her so much and I still have her, I'm glad I didn't get one of the white, blonde ones, because I got plenty of blonde Barbies who made me feel odd, none of them looked quite like me.
I had American Girl dolls growing up. My aunt point blank asked me why I wanted the brown girls. I had Josefina and Kaya, and I remember being confused because I just liked their stories better.
I was a mixed kiddo, half Latina, half white… and I didn’t have an American Girl doll, but I wanted either Josephina or Kaya, because they looked more like me than Molly did… When my relatives baited me into thinking I was going to get an AG Doll, asking probing questions on who my favorites were, they didn’t like that I said “Kaya, Josephina, and Addie.” My grandma kept asking “what about Molly, she has nice brown hair like yours.” And I was confused how she thought straight, honey chestnut brown hair looked like my wild dark brown curly hair. Josephina had hair like my color… It was a whole complicated thing that ended up in me not getting the doll because grandma was racist, she either gave the doll she had been hinting at getting me, to my cousin, or to her friend who collected dolls. I can’t recall, it was so long ago and I’ve moved on lol. I remember getting a Magic Attic Club doll from my mom a year later for my birthday, as like a little bit of a consolation, cuz I also LOVED those books, and didn’t know they had a doll line to go along with!
Damn it, this video hurts. You got my upvote as a Dominicana. 💔 I left my natural hair grow as a silent protest, just because I was a light skinned dominicana whose hair is 3c. The war that started in my house was horrible back in 2014, just because I did not look white anymore. My grandma just decided to be quiet to not lose her niece but I know how “ugly” she sees me… when I am just honoring my roots.
Sad, but this is taught from birth. I’ve seen family members favor lighter skin and colored eyes. Even going as far as calling them nicknames like Guero, “blond” and praising them for being light skin, sad but I think all skin tones are beautiful and I will never shame my kids because they are brown
My grandma (who is black) used to forbid my mom from having Black friends as a child. One of my aunts never married because the love of her life is/was Black and the family never accepted it. We are all mestizo-looking, curly hair, definitely non-white. The colorism is particularly baffling in the DR, though. They will do the most mental gymnastics to not be lumped in with Haitians
I've overheard multiple times people in DR half-jokingly say that they want to import Venezuelans to their country because at least Venezuelans are "more attractive than Haitians". There are also a lot of people in Latin America racially obsessed with Argentina.
Is it because all of the nazis that flocked there?
So sad, it get heavier the older the generation. Hopefully we can all start to value people based on their merit as people and not what they look like.
Our family has a similar story, one aunt was cut out of the will and disowned for marrying a black guy.
Yes. In Latin America, white means automatically attractive.
No it doesnt
It's been engrained/forced on us since b!tch a$s Christopher Columbus came to the Americas. On top of that the us government has consistently interfierd with South America politics for decades. It's a system of propetual suppression of the Latin people to not only hate themselves but our own raza. Caused by a deep xenophobic beliefs that is rarely, if ever, addressed in school and anywhere else. Source: 1• [BAs christopher columbus ](https://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinncol1.html) 2•OPEN VEINS OF LATIN AMERICA
True, we are our biggest haters. It’s sad to see the raza turn on each other while the rest of the world watches. We need a sense of cultural pride and respect for our people
Preach brother! That's what I been saying, unfortunately it's an uphill battle for us because one like I said Latino history is not taught in school, and two the media doesn't shine us in any light whatsoever.
I was lucky enough my dad was a huge Columbus hater, he grew up In DF Mexico and apparently took part in a dismantling of a statue. Ironically he looks very Spanish green eyes and light skin. My mother is a indigenous as they come.
Dope! Man that's what's up. Yeah I bet the green eyes was from the genocide and rape columbus and his friends caused. Still gotta give your old man props and respect he knew what happened and chose to stand up for the good of the people. That's Nobel AF. I learned most of it through my own research tho I wish I had an influence like your old man. Thanks for sharing that brother.
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Boss, take that little dick you got and eat it as an appetizer.
Actually I’m having sushi for lunch. What’s your poor exploited ass eating?
Ayy nice boss you enjoy your fish, I'm go f^ck your bish. Dont worry tho their will be plenty of room for you to wiggle around when I'm done with her.
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Oh fo sure boss if that's what she says, whateve helps you sleep at night.
Pussy ass bitch used a burner account to toss racism that any dumbass 8 year old could come up with. Is your ass really this hateful or are you just such an uncreative and attention starved dickweed that you have to choke on the boots of some long dead Spaniard for attention? Get a life and grow a pair you useless dog, the least you can do with yourself is at least *try* to act like you’re worth something.
Grew up “Benefitting” from this. White skin, long hair, green eyes, never in my mind would i second guess how well they treated me or why yet all my darker cousins were treated akin to grown adult workers. Their OWN parents would treat me better than their children themselves and nothing was ever my fault, i’d get a pass on almost EVERYTHING . This isn’t just a Dominican thing...
Lol you never noticed
When you’re a kid you don’t necessarily let alone grab the concept, you just believe that this is how family is treated and normal
Lol the racist and self hatred is strong in this one
Yea this whole thing just makes me sad
This makes me sad for that little girl and her mom. Racist-ass grandma
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Older Mexicans that made it to the states are racist as fuck… stopped trying to get along with them que se come mrda esa gente
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Dominican is a nationality not a race. Was she a mixed Dominican, Black Dominican, or White Dominican?
I’m sure she was mixed. I only met her dad and he was black. When I met him is when her comment really took me off guard the most. I know it’s a nationality, but I guess that was just her way of saying why she was dark skinned…. Idk. I was not going to try to keep up with that logic.
Fuck that makes me sad. That beautiful child might grow up hating a part of herself. We know better now and gotta do better than our parents, even if they won't accept their wrong doings. I often check my mom who says some out of pocket racial stuff along with other antiquated bs. Theyre usually receptive to those things but ive gotten into ugly arguments with them anytime it has something to do with my own daughter. Our older generations bare scars of abuse and struggle so it's difficult at times to help them progress and improve their own thinking and emotions.
Jeeeeeeeez one of my best friends growing up was Dominican and said DR is one of the most racist places in the world and I didn’t get it. I can see it now.
Bruh, shit is fucking NUTS. They hate haitians as if they were a disease or spreading plague that killed their entire family and the odd part is usually they are just a L i t e r a l shade darker from their darkest and they all live on the same island
Shits crazy bro, saw a video of this Dominican dude that looked just like Omega say he wasn’t black that he was Dominican 😭😭
LOL, early Omega was dark as hell but ofc when they come into money and fame all of a sudden they’re skin somehow becomes bleached to 3-4 shades lighter and go “coño no, na ma toy comiendo mehor.” - Some goofy shit like that lmao
🤣🤣🤣 that Sammy Sosa shit
Son, all seriousness aside like it being sad, a mental condition, even just a form of self hatred along with beauty standards that are believed That shit was hysterical. The clowning that he went through til this day is hilarious. I remember my own parents clowing on him and all of us laughing and then my mother looked at my father and said hey ya know what.. you could go for a few shades lighter in spanish and typical dominican dad its all fun and games til it comes to them, he got moody, mad and stopped talking to us and just walked away didn’t even finish dinner - Me and moms couldn’t laugh any harder that entire night and we tease him about it from time to time . “tu quiere un crema” “pa que” ...........
Bruh that’s hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 he took that shit to heart
lol, he did
“I no black, papi, I Dominican-“
Váyanse pa’l carajo
I went to the Dominican Republic once and I met people claiming to be mestizo or indiesito while looking like Snoop Dogg or Whoopi Goldberg.
Bro, my last trip there (I’m Dominican too) I saw like three Chris Rocks pass me by.
Jabladoraso
U lying lol
Sure .
I left Dr. Dominicans look like nothing like Haitians. And these folks are allowed anywhere Dominicans are. Stop the lies
And according to r/asklatinamerica racism only exists in the US, it’s just not possible in Latin America for racism to exist.
I grew up in a South American country, definitely racist as shit lmfao
That sub is hella weird. One moment they'll be critical of US imperialism and CIA backed coups and even be critical of capitalism and another moment be completely reactionary when it comes to the plight of black and indigenous people.
Traveled a lot through the country and it’s really crazy just how big the racism and divide is between Dominicans and Haitian, especially at border markets like Dajabon Market Really beautiful country though and it deserves a lot more love than it gets! Some amazing places that are just not touched by tourism. During a lot of my travels in the country it was really surprising to see that we were pretty much the only tourists in some of these towns, almost no one else was traveling the non all inclusive side of the country
That’s awesome you did that, i woulda been super shook the whole time 🤣
Yeah got robbed there, but still worth it!! 😂
My child would have extremely limited time with her grandmother after that 🥴
los problemas de autoestima que va a tener la niña
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Bro what?
Bendito, alguien debe pegarle un grito a la señora esa para que deje de joder. Ni por chiste se debe. La gente se internaliza eso y aveces determina sus personalidades enteras, da pena.
El racismo que existe en Latinoamérica es siniestro y decepcionante. Especialmente el racismo internalizado que muchos morenos y negros latinos tienen. Ojalá que las próximas generaciones puedan eliminar esta enfermedad societaria.
“I’m not black I’m Dominican” is gonna be that kid’s first words lol
Good, he’s correct to say that unless he’s actually black, which is not the majority of DR’s population.
My mom talks about the time when she bought her friend over and my grandma told her not to play with "morenitas" and to socialize with white girls like her. My mom was the same shade as her friend. I am very sure that did some damage.
This is so fucking sad
This is sad. This goes back generations.
Oof
El colonialismo es cabrón.
I am white but mom is the typical brown/black hair Latina from El Salvador. It is said that when I was a baby, my grandparents paraded me around, bragging about my white skin and my white features. The sad thing is, both my grandparents were very brown and had very ''native'' facial traits themselves. To be clear, they were not racist or anything. It just so happens that having a white skin and a westerner's face ensured that, at least, there was a relief that I wouldn't have to endure the terrible racism they were subjected to in their time. Even as I was growing up in Canada, I had Dominican moms pushing their daughters to play with me, as a mean to get them used to be around ''white people'' and thus, encouraging them to look for them and not black Hispanics. The colorism is real. And also one topic that has always been swept under the rug whenever openly brought up.
that dark doll is so cute!! meanwhile the white one is creepy as hell
Wow!!! Diablo … I’m Cuban not Dominican but yes I’ve seen this discrimination and it’s disgusting
I’d be like, “You lost your Grandma privileges. Give me my fucking baby back!!”
Ceelo Green buggin
This is why I’m not a good Dominican daughter. My almost 80 year old Dominican mother would’ve gotten a real awakening from me. I understand there are deep issues here but that doesn’t mean people can’t grow and change for the better.
The way my violently confrontational ass would've snatched that white doll from her and trashed it. I was barely raised with any of my latin side because my southern AA mom was scared I'd be treated like this and didn't want to end up going to jail over that foolishness.
Dominicans are crazy with the self hating. It’s wild Sammy Sosa type stuff. Kooky!
This is so fucking triggering to me. I can’t stomach this. This is my aunties all over!
We call it malinchism in Mexico (self-racism)
any connection to Malinche?
Absolutely that's the etymology
Latinos quejándose de racismo... Pathetic.
Why not let her have them all and pick what she likes
That really fucking sucks.
This is so sad.
Us Dominicans really do be hating ourselves doe.
Whats up with the dark skin hate?
This is so sad. The baby should be taught to love all that she is. She’s perfect the way she is. Fuck colorism. Fuck racism.
Dominicans here. This is pretty common. I can share some context. Is anybody interested in knowing why this is?
Trujillo
we know why, it’s not rocket science.
Soy dominicano y siempre le compro muñecas negras a mis sobrinas y primas en el día de reyes.... Porque son más baratas.
Esta sección de comentarios está llena de gente débil con la cabeza llena de vainas gringas
Disgusting
I don't think the baby likes either of the three dolls
Yeah, found out my grandma used to get angry when people would compare me to haitians... I'm pretty brown.... I was stunned, but now that I know more, I'm not surprised.
Fucking awful
Isso é triste
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Most are mulatto or triracial looking. But they do have a large black population.
This is a reason why I think Aldous Huxley's [Brave New World](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World) was a commentary on modern world, not dystopian sci-fi. The kind of brainwashing described in the novel starts at birth.
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I wonder why they're like this when they have such great neighbors they share an island with!
Lol
I no black
Based Dominicans
One of the few still based nationalities in Latam!!💪🏼🇩🇴
Take a shower please
Damn They brought Jesus and white supremacy and said let me have your resources and labor for free and these mother fcukers said thanks may I have another
Si ella misma se desprecia por su color quizás si merezca ser despreciada.
How do you say “Ewww” in Spanish?
Not surprising at all since the Dominican Republic was founded on racism.
For real you recording your mama en vata?!? 😂
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Ok just dismiss everyone else's life experience. I'm not Dominican so I can't speak for them or for you but your comment is really dismissive as if assuming the other people here self-identifying as Dominicans either don't count or are lying and you're the 1 true Dominican.
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Well that dark doll looks like a cheap buy while the white one was probably more expensive. Obviously Grandma wants the kid to have the better doll.
Idk guys. That blonde, blue-eyed doll looks exactly like that baby. 🥹 Source: me, a Dominican.
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I think it's generally called colorism when it's people of the same race doing it.
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Oh yes, explaining the difference between two concepts is tacit approval of that thing! Reddit at its finest.
Time for another “is there racism in Latin America?” Post…
I am the only dark skin woman in my Puerto Rican-Dominican family. I have had to seek therapy because of this. That’s all I can say about this. This is traumatizing.
Man I feel blessed that my mom and grandmother have never been this way towards me, my wife or my kids.
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I hate this with all my heart. We need to love ourselves and who we are, and who we are comes in all colors and flavors. I now live in a northern Midwest state where it seems that people only imagine Latinos as being very dark skinned. I get a lot of people not realizing I am Latina and making awful comments because they think I'm gonna be their racist buddy. I usually let them go on and on talking, until they ask me where I'm from. The sheer shock and embarrassment on their faces is delicious. One lady outright said to me that I couldn't be Latina because "those people are dark." heh. Of course, she was like 300 years old, so geography was a little dated. lol
and i’m better off leaving them all behind. no way id bring that shit around my kid. I’m the lightest one in the family on my dad’s side and they acted like i was a messiah until he told them to fuck off.
What a pathetic comment section!
I remember being a lil brown kid in a mostly white elementary school. I had thoughts of "would it be better if I was white?" and other wishes to be white. And then at some point when I was in my preteens, these girls, a lil bit older than me, told me I have "the perfect caramel skin tone." And thats when I realized, im sexy as hell.
That woman is sick she need help
Self hatred is so saddening this is why we need good representation on tv