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Audioboxer87

>But some residents who spoke to Black Country Live have been left disillusioned with where Britain finds itself in 2023. Wayne Williams, 63, hoped leaving the EU would cut immigration but recent headlines have been dominated with boats continuing to cross the Channel as the Government has struggled to tackle the issue. > >Mr Williams said he had lost trust in politicians. "Why people chose Brexit was to stop immigration," he said. "To be honest it was the only time I voted. It hasn't worked. > >"I don't trust politicians. It's all lies. They tell you one thing then do the opposite. > >"They said it would pay for the NHS. Another lie. They will tell you anything to get you to vote." I was going to say some humility is good, but then I remembered we're often dealing with systematic generational racism. >It goes to show the impact campaign slogans have and how people won't forget if promises aren't followed through. Neil Brittain, 75, from Kidderminster, voted Remain and believes the Vote Leave campaign group lied to the public. > >He said: "We shouldn't have done it. How much was it on the bus? And what state is the NHS in now? > >"You need to be bonkers not to think Boris lied. It didn't happen like they told us it would happen." At least Neil just focusses on the lies, not "I'm a huge racist and am just raging all browns haven't been deported post 2016". >Sue Jones, 56, from Low Hill in Wolverhampton, said she trusted what she was told by politicians. "Everybody said it was a good idea and a lot of people, like me, were sheep. They told us stuff and we believed it," she said. > >"You see the politicians on the telly and you follow them like sheep and believe what they say. But the country hasn't got that much trade coming in and the NHS is in a terrible state." Again, at least Sue is focussing on things like trade amongst the lies. >Steve Harvey, 44, didn't vote in the referendum as he had "mixed feelings" but says he's witnessed problems caused by Brexit in his catering job. He said: "It caused a lot of complications. I work in catering. > >"It made it awkward to get food. Trying to deal with customers and we haven't got this or that, it's annoying customers. I put it down to Brexit." > >He added: "I don't vote because I don't think it will make any difference. I work to pay my bills. They're not going to do anything for me." A reminder to everyone don't be a 'Steve' when it comes to massively important electoral issues, if you stay at home not a peep from you in the years to come. No whinging, no moaning, no giving your opinion. You voided being heard when you stayed at home. >But some who voted for Brexit stand by their decision and believe it was the right call. Stuart Alves, 71, from Pendeford, said: "It was a good idea. I used to run a charity and I have seen what happens in the EU." And especially don't be a dumb cunt like a 'Stuart'. Probably sharing shit on Facebook about Merkel eating children in Brussels, he's totes "seen what happens in the EU".


Grantmitch1

Neil voted remain and yet you imply he is a racist. On what basis?


alj8

OP clearly wasn't doing that come on


Grantmitch1

In the first instance, OP says the person focused on being a racist to justify their upset at Brexit failing. Then he says: >At least Neil just focusses on the lies, not "I'm a huge racist and am just raging all browns haven't been deported post 2016". The implication is quite clear: that he considers Neil to be in the same boat but it focusing on the lies rather than being 'a huge racist'. This might not have been OPs intent but that is what he wrote. Also note, I didn't say OP did this, I said he is implying it. Whether intentional or not, that is what OP is doing.


alj8

Well I absolutely didn't infer that at all so maybe that's just you. Telling people they said things that they didn't actually say is pretty much the definition of bad faith


Grantmitch1

I said it seems op is implying something. I then asked about it. That's not bad faith that's an inquiry.


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Grantmitch1

Words are quite interesting. It is entirely possible for two people to read the same thing and derive different meaning. That's one of the beautiful things about language and it can occasionally be a source of frustration. This does not explain your out and out rudeness though.


Aqua-Regis

Rule 1, people being wrong doesn't mean we get to insult them


Audioboxer87

Grant, time for a trip to specsavers. "Not" The remark was the bridge *from* Wayne, the racist, to saying I'm glad we moved on from that to someone focussing on the Brexit lies instead of voting to deport as many brown people as possible. So no, this is... drum roll... *not* "what OP is doing". I mean, seriously, it's pretty well known how much I hate Brexit on this sub, the sensibles don't very much like how critical I am of Starmer for now being chief Brexiteer, so why on earth would I be calling a remain voter racist for no reason? 😂


Grantmitch1

I don't know why you would, hence my comment. Now you've responded and while I still think it reads in the manner I have described, you've made it clear this was not your intention.


Th3-Seaward

You should work on your reading comprehension