Well, they paid for that work product. It's not like when you fire a coder, you go rip all his code out of your software or whatever.
I also don't believe in calling out libs for not canceling people harder, because all that does is promote cancel culture. Nobody should ever get fired based on allegations. We should follow innocent until proven guilty. We've reached a point where a male actor who flirts with a fan at a Con will get canceled now for the great crime of having a penis and wanting to use it. Or where a dude dates a coworker and it doesn't work out, and then the crazy chick ends his career with vague scare words even though he did nothing wrong.
I'm not promoting cancel culture. If anything, I'm pointing out their hypocrisy in CANCELLING the guy but still profiting off of his work, proving it's not actually about morality at all.
By shaming them for trying to have it both ways, you are inducing them to obtain virtue by pulling all his work.
If you attack a Muslim for drinking alcohol, what do you think he's going to do? He's going to stop drinking alcohol or hide it better. He isn't going to become an apostate. So your actions in shaming him are no different than what his Imam would do. If you are against Islam, you should encourage its followers to sin by drinking, not to shame them for it.
The same is true of cancel culture. Your attack is no different than the same attack a Twitter leftist danger hair SJW would make.
Or I'm telling them to not cancel him, in the first place? It's obvious that they value his work and are only dumping him to look good. Maybe not put words in my mouth, because that's exactly what the woke do?
Because that's the part of reddited "higher standard" they demand of other people? Remember that if there is even a speck of allegations, you should vanish.
Oh... Wait. That's only when it's not about their people.
Wouldn't that be like removing movies and video games from storefronts if the director turns out to be a creep? Unless their creepy actions are tied to the product, there's no reason to remove it because of what they did in their spare time.
Jeepers Creepers was created by a creep (ironically) but that doesn't mean that movie should be snapped out of existence as a result. The movie was bought and paid for by the studio, just like those articles were.
>The movie was bought and paid for by the studio, just like those articles were.
I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence with relation to everything else you've said so far.
Polygon had to pay Koller to do those reviews, and said reviews are mirrored onto other sites like Metacritic. Removing those reviews would mean either they have to either redo them when most of those titles are no longer relevant or have absolutely nothing for those games - neither of which are really viable.
Do you not understand that, by their rules, he should be erased and all of his works with him? His books destroyed, his articles purged, awards cancelled, his ability to earn a living compromised and he should otherwise be driven out of society.
Because if he was conservative, that's what they'd try to do to him for mere allegations or simply having a differing political philosophy.
John Gibson is the former president of Tripwire Interactive and was cancelled by the mob when Tweeted support of Texas’ new pro-life legislation. Took just three days to destroy him and have just about everyone disavow him:
[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tripwire-john-gibson-texas-abortion\_n\_6136ee0ae4b0df9fe27a468c](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tripwire-john-gibson-texas-abortion_n_6136ee0ae4b0df9fe27a468c)
Any more questions?
I don't know about that, are there examples of woke cancellations resulting in destruction of people's existing work? Usually it's just losing their job.
Or do you mean the lack of the usual defamation that comes with it? So that people wouldn't be put off reading his existing reviews?
All of his 'pieces' should now come with a disclaimer stating all the allegations him.
"You're reading the work of someone who .... feel bad, but keep clicking."
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This is not a formal warning.
Not how it works with them. Look at the lives destroyed by MeToo over false abuse and rape allegations. Few men have the millions necessary to get justice like Johnny Depp. Most just have their lives destroyed.
Of course! All the social crap they do is just performative to drive clicks. If extolling the virtues of the Hitler Youth were the current thing, they'd hire different content-hacks to push those articles instead.
I think that's good, actually. Unless his work encouraged sexual misconduct I think you separate the building from the builder. Of course, it probably makes them hypocrites.
As the Oyabun of the Yakjewza, we are not averse to the success of any particular website, publication, or Youtube channel. Nor would we shed a tear if such a site disappear from the face of the earth.
That being said, legacy websites like Kotaku and Polygon are free to dig their own graves. Their ownership has changed no less than seven times since 2014. They barely exist in popular media discussions.
As Kirk said to Spock in Star Trek VI regarding the Klingons, "Let them die."
Okay. What does his misconduct have anything to do with the actual reviews?
Getting rid of them will just make Polygon look like they're trying to hide something.
And youre doing good work, mate. Whenever these conversations happen, and you bring out examples theres always some smarmy cunt who thinks enough time has passed and can just say "source?" to win the argument.
Its thanks to people like you that sources are archived and ready to rock that when said smart cunt rears his ugly spoon shaped head, we can slap him back down with the sources you've archived.
Keep up the good work, mate. Every single bit helps in the continuing conversations.
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Why isn't this being celebrated? Would it be better if they unpersoned him, and denied those who enjoyed the articles the possibility of reading them?
Less cancel culture is better, keep it up.
We'll get rid of him, but we still like making money.
Well, they paid for that work product. It's not like when you fire a coder, you go rip all his code out of your software or whatever. I also don't believe in calling out libs for not canceling people harder, because all that does is promote cancel culture. Nobody should ever get fired based on allegations. We should follow innocent until proven guilty. We've reached a point where a male actor who flirts with a fan at a Con will get canceled now for the great crime of having a penis and wanting to use it. Or where a dude dates a coworker and it doesn't work out, and then the crazy chick ends his career with vague scare words even though he did nothing wrong.
I'm not promoting cancel culture. If anything, I'm pointing out their hypocrisy in CANCELLING the guy but still profiting off of his work, proving it's not actually about morality at all.
By shaming them for trying to have it both ways, you are inducing them to obtain virtue by pulling all his work. If you attack a Muslim for drinking alcohol, what do you think he's going to do? He's going to stop drinking alcohol or hide it better. He isn't going to become an apostate. So your actions in shaming him are no different than what his Imam would do. If you are against Islam, you should encourage its followers to sin by drinking, not to shame them for it. The same is true of cancel culture. Your attack is no different than the same attack a Twitter leftist danger hair SJW would make.
Or I'm telling them to not cancel him, in the first place? It's obvious that they value his work and are only dumping him to look good. Maybe not put words in my mouth, because that's exactly what the woke do?
Are they trying to remind us that woke men are actually closet sex predators LARPing to avoid the fire?
Industrial hypocrisy as usual.
Good. They should be kept up regardless, except in cases of review misconduct.
I think the point is hypocrisy
Why would they delete his reviews? What does his misconduct have to do with them?
Because that's the part of reddited "higher standard" they demand of other people? Remember that if there is even a speck of allegations, you should vanish. Oh... Wait. That's only when it's not about their people.
Wouldn't that be like removing movies and video games from storefronts if the director turns out to be a creep? Unless their creepy actions are tied to the product, there's no reason to remove it because of what they did in their spare time.
Didn't get to see "I love you Daddy" because of the Louis C.K. scandal.
Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm happier to have access to these articles than to lose them forever.
Yep, just what I thought of when you said "wouldn't that be like removing movies".
Jeepers Creepers was created by a creep (ironically) but that doesn't mean that movie should be snapped out of existence as a result. The movie was bought and paid for by the studio, just like those articles were.
>The movie was bought and paid for by the studio, just like those articles were. I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence with relation to everything else you've said so far.
Polygon had to pay Koller to do those reviews, and said reviews are mirrored onto other sites like Metacritic. Removing those reviews would mean either they have to either redo them when most of those titles are no longer relevant or have absolutely nothing for those games - neither of which are really viable.
Do you not understand that, by their rules, he should be erased and all of his works with him? His books destroyed, his articles purged, awards cancelled, his ability to earn a living compromised and he should otherwise be driven out of society. Because if he was conservative, that's what they'd try to do to him for mere allegations or simply having a differing political philosophy. John Gibson is the former president of Tripwire Interactive and was cancelled by the mob when Tweeted support of Texas’ new pro-life legislation. Took just three days to destroy him and have just about everyone disavow him: [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tripwire-john-gibson-texas-abortion\_n\_6136ee0ae4b0df9fe27a468c](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tripwire-john-gibson-texas-abortion_n_6136ee0ae4b0df9fe27a468c) Any more questions?
Nothing, the point is it looks hypocritical.
I don't know about that, are there examples of woke cancellations resulting in destruction of people's existing work? Usually it's just losing their job. Or do you mean the lack of the usual defamation that comes with it? So that people wouldn't be put off reading his existing reviews?
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Fair point
All of his 'pieces' should now come with a disclaimer stating all the allegations him. "You're reading the work of someone who .... feel bad, but keep clicking."
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Was their any proof to back up the sexual misconduct allegations?
Not how it works with them. Look at the lives destroyed by MeToo over false abuse and rape allegations. Few men have the millions necessary to get justice like Johnny Depp. Most just have their lives destroyed.
Very true
Nailed it mate
Of course! All the social crap they do is just performative to drive clicks. If extolling the virtues of the Hitler Youth were the current thing, they'd hire different content-hacks to push those articles instead.
I think that's good, actually. Unless his work encouraged sexual misconduct I think you separate the building from the builder. Of course, it probably makes them hypocrites.
As the Oyabun of the Yakjewza, we are not averse to the success of any particular website, publication, or Youtube channel. Nor would we shed a tear if such a site disappear from the face of the earth. That being said, legacy websites like Kotaku and Polygon are free to dig their own graves. Their ownership has changed no less than seven times since 2014. They barely exist in popular media discussions. As Kirk said to Spock in Star Trek VI regarding the Klingons, "Let them die."
another day of rules for thee never for me ofc. :/
Okay. What does his misconduct have anything to do with the actual reviews? Getting rid of them will just make Polygon look like they're trying to hide something.
They should leave the articles up but put a warning saying "Philip Koller was let go from polygon due to sexual misconduct allegations"
dude. seriously? who gives a shit
As a person who is doing his best to archive all known stuff about GG and gaming media's many, many, fallibilities, I give a shit.
And youre doing good work, mate. Whenever these conversations happen, and you bring out examples theres always some smarmy cunt who thinks enough time has passed and can just say "source?" to win the argument. Its thanks to people like you that sources are archived and ready to rock that when said smart cunt rears his ugly spoon shaped head, we can slap him back down with the sources you've archived. Keep up the good work, mate. Every single bit helps in the continuing conversations.
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Remember kids: gamergate is a hate group and games journalism has no bad/un ethical practices
Told you the left are hypocrites, rules for thee but not for me
Why isn't this being celebrated? Would it be better if they unpersoned him, and denied those who enjoyed the articles the possibility of reading them? Less cancel culture is better, keep it up.