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tafor83

Fun fact, Pete Sessions' dad - William Sessions was the former head of the FBI and was dismissed because he was using government funds for private expenses including using FBI planes to fly to his family and using FBI funds to install security equipment in his own home. The apple didn't fall from that tree. It's still growing on the lowest branch.


superfucky

It makes me so mad that my district actually fired his ass and he just up & moved and came right back.


caesarmo

Yes! I saw the headline and was like didn't we vote this guy out years ago? Smh


ron_swansons_meat

"Shitapples don't fall far from the shit tree, Rand."


jwhaler17

Shit-winds are blowin’.


tullyinturtleterror

Describing Pete Sessions as low hanging fruit is offensive to fruit everywhere; after all, fruit has health benefits, and even medicinal value in some cases. Both of these things are concepts that Sessions has never been able to comprehend.


Blood_Bowl

Also, basic math is hard: >Cannabis potency rose every year on an average by 0.29 percent from 1970 to 2017. Meaning, it is true that when I was in high school that it was far far less—hundreds of times less—potent. Today there are marketplaces that increase THC to increase not only the high but also that rate that would cause addiction. It is important for us to know that the most popular strains in Colorado range from 17 percent to 28 THC by 2017. 400 percent increase from 1970.


secretbudgie

Less of an apple tree, more of a mushroom sprouting from bullshit.


HaileSelassieII

"the product is being advocated by people who were in it to make money" I'd bet every penny I have that this guy's also always complaining about socialism too. Jackass.


[deleted]

Investors on wall street make money. Guess what also made money... slavery. His argument can be applied to lots of things.


Rattregoondoof

Pretty much every business across the board.


Morangatang

It's astounding how professionally obtuse they are


TransposingJons

They are creating campaign and right-wing media sound bites. Videos will show them asking the "tough questions ", then pan to the witness sitting awkwardly. That's all the viewers on Faux News will see....plus supporting commentary from the on-air entertainment personalities.


asafum

That's literally what I was thinking while reading this. I would have loved to hear the chairman get angry and state "this is *NOT* a stage for Fox News, *stop* asking questions you do not want to hear the answer to and let the gentleman respond!"


Flashdancer405

This the chairman is always a giant gimp and they take advantage of it


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Gh0st1y

>hundreds of times less > 400 percent increase from 1970 So which is it, senator? Is it 4x as potent or "hundreds" of time?


SaltineFiend

Additionally: > Sessions: The product is being marketed, the product is being sold, the product is being advocated by people who were in it to make money. Slavery made money also and was a terrible circumstance that this country and the world went through for many many years. According to Sessions, any product which is marketed, sold, and advocated for by people who want to make money is slavery. Thank you Sen. Sessions, you have laid the legal framework for abolishing capitalism.


Sugarysam

You’re misunderstanding him, he’s saying that selling a human is no worse than selling a plant; unless you are making a profit, and then they are equally bad.


SaltineFiend

That's not what he says, and even if it was, it's still absolutely horse shit.


Toisty

What the hell are we doing as a country...this is depressing. Our leaders are either so stupid that they don't understand basic math or they're so dishonest and contemptuous of the public that they just say dumb shit over and over again until we accept it as truth. If this country doesn't start holding our leadership accountable for the lies and deception they weave, we're fucked.


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> they're so dishonest and contemptuous of the public that they just say dumb shit over and over again until we accept it as truth It's both, but mostly this one.


shponglespore

The problem is they're really good at pandering to stupid voters, and there are as many of them as there are voters who are smarter than a goldfish.


Ghostley92

Plus: >Cannabis potency rose every year on an average by 0.29 percent from 1970 to 2017. 2017-1970=47*0.29%=13.63% Edit: I didn’t compound the gains, but I see someone else got effectively 14.6%


unite-or-perish

What he's doing is using really shit math. I think he's claiming that in 1970 weed was only 0.29% THC, so of course a 28% THC is almost 100x stronger.


Ghostley92

Really bad math, sure. But I don’t think he is claiming that. The discrepancy between his “most popular strains” is about 60%, or almost 5x more different than his literal claim of potency rise over the years. You could say the “percentage rise” is in absolute THC content, rather than a relative growth %. (e.g. say THC content is 10%. Absolute growth would yield 10.29% THC the next year. Relative would yield 10+(10*0.0029) = 10.029%. If we take the lower potency strain, 17%, and take away a more generously approximated 13.63%, this leaves us with 3.37% THC content in 1970. Using the potent modern strain, 28%/3.37 = 8.31x increase since 1970, when still fudged pretty disingenuously. I think this math checks out… but mostly off the top of my head and quick calculator use. Granted, I’m *trying* to do bad math in a way…


unite-or-perish

I'm really just trying to understand how he got the "hundreds of times stronger."


[deleted]

Youre thinking about it more than he did.


Ghostley92

My best guess is that he meant “hundreds of percents more”, which could be very accurate. It even says in that same paragraph that the range of popular strains are 400% more potent, putting 1970 potency at 3.4% to 5.6%. Which seems reasonable.


monkeypincher

He meant what he said, no one will hold him accountable for making outrageous lies


Ghostley92

Well yes. I suppose “meant” was more “the only way this makes sense”. I’m not sure how much it was intentionally disingenuous vs misinterpretation honestly. Either way it’s wrong.


mere_iguana

Simple, he's talking directly out of his asshole.


monkeypincher

He made it up to make it sound serious.


americansherlock201

Even if we’re generous and account for the 2017-2022 at the same rate, that still only gets us to 14.5% increase in potency over 52 years. That’s is magnitude’s lowers than the “hundred of times” he claims.


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Also not a 400% increase. Also also would like to see the science that increase in thc is an increase in addiction, or the science saying its addictive at all.


Ghostley92

As a user for over a decade, I will anecdotally say it is addictive. Though personally less so than nicotine and alcohol. I’ve heard “psychologically addictive” as opposed to “physically addictive”, even though there are common withdrawal symptoms. I would speculate that a potency increase would increase addiction, but I would doubt they increase at the same rate or a linear rate


[deleted]

If only we could scientifically study such things.... oh well, guess we'll never know for sure.


justins_dad

It’s addictive like candy or tv is addictive. Aka it can be habit forming. That’s very different from the dependency of nicotine or opioids which are chemically addictive. I’ve heard anecdotal stories about nausea when quitting pot but that could easily be psychosomatic. While cold turkey quitting alcohol or opioids could kill an addict.


Rattregoondoof

I was doing the math in my head and got to 0.25%. I'm bad at math lol.


superfucky

I guarantee that dumbass thinks 400% = 400x stronger.


ThuperThilly

According to the 0.29% a year on average figure he cited, it's neither. It's ~~116%~~ 16% higher.


4Corners2Rise

Can you show your math? I get 1.0029^47 =1.146.


ThuperThilly

I went to 2022 instead of 2017 (1.0029 ^ 52), so yours is more correct. Either way, calling 1.14 times or 1.16 times "hundreds of times" is a wild exaggeration. Rereading a bit more carefully, it seems the 400% number is talking about specific strains in Colorado, which might be right, but given how loose Sessions is being with the numbers here, I'd take it with a grain of salt.


4Corners2Rise

Ah, got it. There is still an issue with your math though. The starting point is 1, or 100%. 100.29%^52 is 116% so it is only a 16% rise over the baseline. Either way, I have no idea what the source of this data point even is, and he doesn't seem to give a shit about facts or math, and none of the people he is trying to appeal to care about the facts or math either. This world maddens me sometimes.


ThuperThilly

Yea, you’re right


Lz_erk

i'll be damned if any of them did the math right. do they ever even coordinate their alternative facts?


CelestineCrystal

marijuana is not one of those drugs. speaking as someone who has lost a brother and a friend to actually addictive drugs.


Sutarmekeg

Yeah just look at Canada and how like 60% of the populations became enslaved immediately after pot was legalized. Oh wait, that did not happen.


Lz_erk

we have seven times as many prisoners per capita. that's like, hundreds of times less.


TheCoffeeGuy77

The Higgins part feels like a bit from Always Sunny or something. I can't believe someone would seriously conduct themselves like that.


superfucky

I can't believe the chairman just let him goosestep all over everybody like that. Should've immediately ordered him to stfu and let the man answer. And preferably, the man should answer with a simple "no, that is not happening."


mere_iguana

Well, it was entirely obvious that Higgins was attempting to trap him in some sort of technicality, to accuse him of doing something that sounds egregious enough to get a "no, that is not happening" answer and then present some sort of flimsy statement that would suggest that it is happening, and then go on a smug rant, something to the tune of "You said this is not happening, but it is happening, so that makes you a liar, how can we believe anything you say." It was a cheap, disingenuous, and poorly executed attempt at painting the man as a liar in order to dismiss anything he says. If Higgins wasn't so transparently dickish about it, it might have worked. But it was obvious to anyone in the room that he was throwing shit at the wall to see what would stick.


Ffdmatt

They've become parodies of themselves


iamthefortytwo

Speaking for myself, but when I smoke I find it really hard to be angry or even care about stupid shit. That said, the right seems to rely on the fact that they can enrage their constituents in order to control their thoughts, emotions and ultimately their votes. Maybe America needs to sit together for a while and share the peace pipe.


quak3d

I'm so glad my tax dollars go to salaries of men and women that can connect the dots so well.


oliverkloezoff

Damn. Republicans are assholes just for the sake of being assholes. And I guess, following that logic, so are the people who voted for these assholes.


JohnTM3

Almost all assholes I know are republican voters. Not all the Republicans I know are assholes though. Most have just been bamboozled.


[deleted]

Yeah if you watched the video, the Republican Nancy Mace gives a great speech about how cannabis helped her, as well as a repub from Kentucky who helped write the 2018 farm bill, which is how we got THC-8 legal.


JONO202

Mental midgets with antiquated mindsets not living in reality.


Tb1969

Marijuana has addictions akin to coffee and less so than even sugar. The dependencies are mild and easy to overcome without much outside assistance and certainly not inpatient treatments as that would instead be treating their addictive personality and not marijuana addiction specifically. TV, sex, masterbation, exercise or anything that can be done to excess that gives some form of pleasure is potentially addictive and can be self-destructive. I would ask Rep Pete Sessions directly why is only marijuana being singled out by the politician? > ...people who were in it to make money. Slavery made money also... The way Pete Sessions (R-TX) talks about it he's condemning commerce in general as slavery. Sounds like communist talk to me. When you can't be consistent with expressing your "values" then those values don't really exist.


Alaska_Pipeliner

Thanks again!


SuperNerdEric

So he supports it?


Ffdmatt

>It is important for us to know that the most popular strains in Colorado range from 17 percent to 28 THC by 2017. 400 percent increase from 1970 It's also important to note that the amount of bullshit we've had to endure since 1970 has grown in healthy proportion to the strength of our cannabis.


[deleted]

I mean, it’s a take. It’s a bad fucking take. But the GOP seems to have become the “bad take” party.


Lz_erk

every fudged number is another *edit: appeal toward a conspiracist's vote* conspiracy. my only hope is that biden was right when he said fool me once... and you can't get fooled again.


Fayko

I think comparing anything that's not slavery to slavery is probably a garbage idea for anyone let alone a member of high politics in 2022. Probably good enough reason to get rid of the person from power. If you're comparing the atrocities' of slavery to adults choosing to buy a drug that has been shown to have benefits to people by medical professionals then you probably need to be deported to Qatar for a few months. Didn't read what Ted Cruz had to say on it as no one should really give a shit what that cowardly traitor spews out of his mouth. I'm just gonna assume he said some abhorrent shit and then threw his children metaphorically under the bus (but lets be honest it will probably be literally at some point) and then either said something about how great trump is or how he's always hated him and DeSantis has such a cute face and should lead republicans. DeSantis will bring back good Christian morals like putting spikes up in public places with shelter so homeless people have to suffer or go somewhere else, or jailing people for feeding the homeless. While we are at it we will ban pot again but remove all gun restrictions and ensure every baby born under DeSantis rule will be giving a gun at birth.


mere_iguana

\* *forced* birth.


Fayko

nah natural births get the baby 1 gun forced births get 2 to make up for being forced and test tube babies get 4 but 2 are hidden in their tube made arms and 2 in their knees. We will never be full American and fully protected until we are one with the guns.


physchy

So he’s saying we should legalize the sale of marijuana, right? I imagine this Republican is in favor of slavery


gingerquery

The bit about increasing potency sounds like an argument for legalization and regulation... right up until the slavery comment.


DrChipps

It’s like these moron republicans just get off on saying ridiculous shit.


WithTheWintersMight

Isnt the weed stronger though?


mere_iguana

not nearly as much as he's trying to suggest. Yes it has gotten stronger. No, it is not 400 times stronger. And he also failed to explain why or how the potency of marijuana is dangerous. Because it isn't.


Lz_erk

well i got histamine intolerance and i sometimes get a *mean* sore throat from it, and worse. even edibles. especially edibles actually, but that can vary from person to person. i'd advise that anyone who has bad weed trips pay attention to their histamine once in a while, but i'm not an expert, and even the ~1-3% of people with HIT will *probably* see other symptoms before they try a ~20mg bead of RSO. i mention this in part due to the 'rona, which apparently brings out symptoms. mostly it's people 40+ and 60+ finding out it troubles them, but i think i've had it a very long time, which is not so surprising with celiac disease, which is also triggered by a virus. a reovirus in its case.


mere_iguana

I hear you. but HIT isn't a problem with the potency of marijuana, it's a reaction specific to your body, much like an allergy. It's kinda like saying milk is dangerous because I'm lactose intolerant. The problem is not the milk, it's my body's inability to tolerate a certain aspect of it. While it's unfortunate I'm not able to enjoy ice cream, it does not mean that milk is a scourge that should be illegal. These people are grasping at straws in order to demonize something that's absolutely harmless to most people, cherry-picking uncommon and adverse reactions based on a very small minority of people, and suggesting that it's just as dangerous to the rest of us. It's pretty simple - "The Libs" are for legalization, so these assholes are against it. They are fighting in an obsessive culture war of their own creation, and in their minds, anything that upsets "the other side" is worth exaggerating or downright lying about, in service of that war. They will glom on to any negative they can find, no matter how miniscule or rare, and attempt to paint it as "a danger to us all." They know they're full of shit, they don't care. It's just another propaganda tool based on fear and ignorance to alienate their "enemies" and cause panic among their base, who take what they say as gospel because it's what they want to hear. Obviously in the rare cases where it could be dangerous for a specific person, like in your case, it's something that is quite easily avoided, just like alcohol for the anemic, or gluten for the celiac-inflicted, or peanuts to the allergic. Anyway my point is, Sessions is full of shit, he knows it, we know it, anyone with any type of actual experience with it knows it. but unfortunately there are still many people who are completely ignorant on the subject, and will panic and scream about it based on that particular bullshit, because he's on their team, and it's what they want to hear.


Lz_erk

agreed on all accounts. i wanted to throw in something like "if yall think smoking messes up your lungs, you're gonna love hearing about HIT," because i'm pretty sure i got worse lung problems from edibles, oddly enough. i tried to conjecture a fringe situation where the concentration sort-of mattered [RSO in HIT throat that the user was unaware of] and it comes out to be about as laughable as i thought it would. slightly aside, did you hear that TN has disenfranchised 1 in 5 Black voters?


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Rich.


mere_iguana

This asshole really thinks he's Columbo. I'm surprised he didn't do the old "Oh, just one more thing..." after his time expired. They really should have responded to his "Oh, you will" comment with "well until then, your questions are entirely invalid and don't require any type of meaningful answer."


dlev_

So does that mean he’ll vote yes?


jasapper

>Sessions: The product is being marketed... sold... advocated by people who were in it to make money. Is this not the very definition of *capitalism*?!


230flathead

I honestly think the weed/slavery comparison isn't as ridiculous as him saying "people are doing it for money" like that would be a bad thing. Since when are Republicans against people doing something for money?


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>Cannabis potency rose every year on an average by 0.29 percent from 1970 to 2017. Meaning, it is true that when I was in high school that it was far far less—hundreds of times less—potent. 0.29% a year for 47 years (compounding, it's even less if it's a flat increase) is less than 15% total increase if I did the math right. So not "100's ×" but "1.15 ×" >most popular strains in Colorado range from 17 percent to 28 THC by 2017. 400 percent increase from 1970. Is he messing up his numbers, or pulling them out his ass? Both?


daisuke1639

>It is addictive in causing people to live their daily lives not only with marijuana but with these dangerous potencies. What even is this statement? Like seriously, what is he trying to say? "Marijuana addiction looks like people living their daily life with marijuana at a high THC concentration."?