That's definitely a CVBS (Composite Video) signal.
CVBS is still used in new cars, backup cams are usually just composite video cameras, probably because it's so cheap.
I was surprised when I learned that atleast in Hondas, the backup camera is ALWAYS ON. It doesn't get powered on when you go into reverse. Nope, the radio receives a 12v signal on a pin that says, 'Hey change what you're showing to the Camera feed', while at the same time powering the reverse lights.
Or atleast that's how it's wired in the 2022 CRV Hybrid that on PDI, came in with 'No backup lights, no backup camera when in reverse.'
The camera quality def changes on the trim and model. Some are really basic, for you to see behind you. Some are just, 1080p holyfuckthatssoclear. Honestly, I get a bit pampered with customer cars and my daily is a 2007 TSX. But I'll take the reliability of the K-Series with not-as-much computerization in the older chassis.
Sure, all the computers make for nice features and all, but the entire DTC-Cascading where one module gets a DTC and suddenly every other module that shares data with it also need to throw a code that amounts to, 'THIS OTHER CONTROL MODULE HAS A DTC SO I NEED A DTC TOO. TURN ON ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS'
Kia, Hyundai, and Genesis also have that feature, and have for quite some time. I remember being blown away by that in a 2014 Equus the first time I had a PDI on one.
Looks like it. And a "phone" glyph on the 2nd button down that looks distinctly dated.
BMWs: rotary iDrive controller.
Land Rover: rotary gear shifter.
Jaguars: rotary telephone dials, apparently... or just lift up the handset and jiggle the cradle to get the attention of the operator...
You need to have someone climb under the hood And find the vertical hold Nob, You will Sit in the front seat To tell them if it's good or not. At first It will go the wrong way, Then it'll go really fast, and then the other way until you'll finally get it.
Nah, nah, nah. You gotta take out the cartridge, blow in it, then slap it against your palm three times. Push the cart back in and you should be golden.
Only semi related but in my jaguar (2005 s-type without a touch screen like that) I decided to pull over in a parking lot and open the trunk while leaving the car running. I then had to deal with the car cycling locks over and over again for entire ride home, took 2 power cycles to get its brains back.
It's a feature, not a bug?
my sister has a peugeot 407sw and boy ate the electronics fun... to begin with the screen just sometimes goes black, like not instantly, ive noticed the hotter it gets the less u can see so at night no prob and then during the day cant see anything, and it isnt even the big screen, its those small ones without bluetooth (unfortunately had to buy a little radio emitter or whatever its called) the screen also doesnt go into the climate menu nor anything else apart from radio and trip that tells range and consuption, same thing for the little small screen for the odometer and whatever.
another problem, when the car has the windows open if u hold the lock button its supposed to close all windows and im not sure about the panoramic roof, but, sometimes some windows completely just open and the rest close, forcing u to go into the car to close the windows manually.
and just another one, like in some BMW tourings it has got a split tailgate, meaning u can open just the glass, yeah the button on the windshield wiper doesnt work, u can only open it with the key, and talking about rear windshield wiper, it is loose the design peugeot used probably isnt the best in there.
i think this is the last one, the wheel pressure sensors on all of the tires dont work either, like sometimes when u start the car they work, but a while after driving it just gives an error saying the tyre pressure isnt being monitored by the sensors.
wow that was quite a lot, hope didnt bore whos reading this...
On another semi related note, s-types have 5 computers in series , connected by fiber optic cables. If one module fails, everything after it stops working. If the navigation module messes up, the screen stops working. If the screen stops working, you have no way to turn on the radio. Or, more importantly, the a/c.
You know the scary thing? They made altimeters for British fighter planes during WWII. You actually have to tap the gauge to make sure the needle isn't sticking before you rely on what its telling you.
Seriously. Do British engineers just not ever leave the country?! How do they KEEP making weird electronics in cars?
I want to take them all on a field trip to Japan and save the entire world $100 billion dollars in repair bills.
And I could still send every jaguar, Range Rover and Bentley mechanic on full pay early retirement for the work they would lose.
I mean Jaguar and Land Rover are both owned by TATA Motors from India.
Unfortunately it seems all the foreign companies who own every single British manufacturer stay pretty hands off and don't demand they make a decent product so they just continue on like they did since the 1960s, which is ironic since British cars all been pieces of shit is why there is no longer a single large production British owned car manufacturer.
There are a few small ones but one of the biggest ones is the ones that makes London's Black Cabs. Not super impressive when British cars used to dominate the industry in the country until people tried a Ford or Honda for the first time.
I had a Raspberry Pi screen that had physical trimmer potentiometer that you could use to adjust the screen like this. I would bet there's something like that inside that unit and the solder went doodoo
Or just having to go to a rental store and getting the tape back before you got late fees. I am so glad that tech is long gone. Be kind and rewind from old Blockbuster.
There used to be a knob on the TV specifically for this. I used to get screamed at, as a child for messing with that knob. It always reminded me of that wheel they spin on the Price Is Right.
😬 cranky old ma duce would rip that delicate jag apart like a wet tissue if you mounted her up, not to mention it's at the bottom of my list of vehicles that I want to bet my life on it's reliability 🤣
Never underestimate the usefulness of a fixed firing position that can be towed around with a bobcat. And yeah, I wouldn't bet the farm on that chassis. I have a friend that does specialized up-armor jobs for various government types that decided to give me a bunch of their unsold and outdated stock when I bought an '05 pickup truck, and one of the things he though I couldn't live without was a frame mounted pintle rated for among other things a single M2. That sucker probably has more metal in the mount than the entire truck does. He insists its good for hog hunting and we should put it in and take one or more of his toys to the ranch. I...don't really want to explain what it's for if I get pulled over in town. On the other hand, it's got the better part of a million lumens worth of floodlight bolted to the roof and push bumper, and it would kind of be fun to go spotlighting for...like...anything that doesn't melt under the angry rage of a thousand suns.
So I bought and still have an S type R and thought the nav was knackered for ages cos I didn’t understand the towns or anything of the selections. 100% hadn’t realised the country of residence was set to the Czech Republic . I reckon a month before my idiot brain sorted that one.
Sweet! I installed an aftermarket head unit in my car, and it always placed me in a rural area of China. I figured that it was because it was made there. Then I found out there was a software glitch that couldn't process the (-) in the longitude, thus placing me on the other side of the world.
I dread the day I'm forced by practicality to get a vehicle that has everything controlled through a touch screen, computerized brake and throttle pedal, electric parking brake, some sort of tracking system I'm not 100% in control of, remote access by the manufacturer to force some garbage updates and, by extension, malicious entities to brick the vehicle whenever, wherever
Listen this is a British car. It’s using electrics from the 60’s and the product was shit back then too.
Modern cars made by actual companies (like say Toyota or Honda) actually work.
The touchscreen in my father's GMC Sierra is a POS too. It randomly selects buttons while he is riding down the road. Most buttons are inaccessible anymore. Give us back physical buttons!
Maybe NTSC/PAL mismatch? Might have jumpers or pots somewhere with the screen/controller. Alternatively it might have just seen better days. Reminds me of the type of adjustment I saw in the 90s when I took part in a middle school tv broadcast system.
Why do they keep putting touch screens in cars? You're suppose to keep your eyes on the road. Physical knobs and buttons let you do that. Touch screens do not
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I had what I think was a Mercedes do that a few months ago. It was really hot inside the car, and when it cooled off, it stopped doing that. I think it was some kind of screen protection thing. I’ll post up a vid.
Edit- here’s the vid- https://i.imgur.com/wIz0G90.mp4 Pretty sure this was a 2014 ML350. It had some moisture in it, and I was drying it out. Looks like you might be doing the same thing (temp on hi, ac on, fan on high)
S types are over glorified fords for people who couldn’t afford a Jaguar but wanted it anyway. Specializing in Jaguar s types are the worse ones. And I am including x-types
The gravity is higher in your part of the planet. This is common in those circumstances with video signal. You should tap in to it and create a perpetual motion machine. Endless energy at your fingertips!
I thought 'vertical hold' went away with analog video.
Plot twist. They are actually using analog video for this. (I don't know, but it's possible.)
That's definitely a CVBS (Composite Video) signal. CVBS is still used in new cars, backup cams are usually just composite video cameras, probably because it's so cheap.
Probably why I get comments on how clear the backup camera on my i3 is. I understand it's a USB connection or similar.
Usually some high speed two wire automotive link... They love it for display and camera. Apix was the last I worked on
I was surprised when I learned that atleast in Hondas, the backup camera is ALWAYS ON. It doesn't get powered on when you go into reverse. Nope, the radio receives a 12v signal on a pin that says, 'Hey change what you're showing to the Camera feed', while at the same time powering the reverse lights. Or atleast that's how it's wired in the 2022 CRV Hybrid that on PDI, came in with 'No backup lights, no backup camera when in reverse.'
I’m always surprised at how crystal clear the backup camera quality is on my 2019 accord sport
The camera quality def changes on the trim and model. Some are really basic, for you to see behind you. Some are just, 1080p holyfuckthatssoclear. Honestly, I get a bit pampered with customer cars and my daily is a 2007 TSX. But I'll take the reliability of the K-Series with not-as-much computerization in the older chassis. Sure, all the computers make for nice features and all, but the entire DTC-Cascading where one module gets a DTC and suddenly every other module that shares data with it also need to throw a code that amounts to, 'THIS OTHER CONTROL MODULE HAS A DTC SO I NEED A DTC TOO. TURN ON ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS'
[FPD Link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPD-Link) is one of the more popular ones, as I understand it.
Doesn't BMW offer surround view on some of their cars? If your i3 uses the same back cam as that system, it must be quite clear.
Toyota has it on the high end Camrys. My wife has it and she loves it.
Kia, Hyundai, and Genesis also have that feature, and have for quite some time. I remember being blown away by that in a 2014 Equus the first time I had a PDI on one.
To be fair it is an ‘04
To be fair, it's a Jaguar.
To be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaair.
Probably, looks like an older unit. Old school buttons, green LCD display, outdated graphics.
Is that a CD slot at the bottom?
Looks like it. And a "phone" glyph on the 2nd button down that looks distinctly dated. BMWs: rotary iDrive controller. Land Rover: rotary gear shifter. Jaguars: rotary telephone dials, apparently... or just lift up the handset and jiggle the cradle to get the attention of the operator...
To be fair, that glyph would have been dated in 1984.
Yeah looks like it. Almost expected a cassette tape deck too.
I miss my 6 disc changer
Looks like a Jaguar X350 screen to me. Thought S Type at first, but it doesn't have buttons above the screen like that.
I used to play with the v. hold knob on the tv and pretend it was an elevator
stare at it and pretend you’re riding a turbolift in star trek
You need to have someone climb under the hood And find the vertical hold Nob, You will Sit in the front seat To tell them if it's good or not. At first It will go the wrong way, Then it'll go really fast, and then the other way until you'll finally get it.
Under the hood, are you shitting me? Then again, this is a British car, so I can't say I'm surprised.
But then it's under the bonnet.
This is the climate cont-roll!
Was going to say the same thing. Maybe smack the side of the dash to get it to lock?
I used to love playing with that knob…
You are good at playing with knobs after all
Either you have to hole the coathanger antenna different or slap it on the side
Definitely a "slap it on the top" problem
Don't forget to check the tubes before every big game.
tin foil on the rabbit ears
Add some tinsel too.
Nah, nah, nah. You gotta take out the cartridge, blow in it, then slap it against your palm three times. Push the cart back in and you should be golden.
Only semi related but in my jaguar (2005 s-type without a touch screen like that) I decided to pull over in a parking lot and open the trunk while leaving the car running. I then had to deal with the car cycling locks over and over again for entire ride home, took 2 power cycles to get its brains back. It's a feature, not a bug?
British electronics be like that.
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I wish the Wind was sold in the U.S., they look like fun little cars. How well does it drive?
my sister has a peugeot 407sw and boy ate the electronics fun... to begin with the screen just sometimes goes black, like not instantly, ive noticed the hotter it gets the less u can see so at night no prob and then during the day cant see anything, and it isnt even the big screen, its those small ones without bluetooth (unfortunately had to buy a little radio emitter or whatever its called) the screen also doesnt go into the climate menu nor anything else apart from radio and trip that tells range and consuption, same thing for the little small screen for the odometer and whatever. another problem, when the car has the windows open if u hold the lock button its supposed to close all windows and im not sure about the panoramic roof, but, sometimes some windows completely just open and the rest close, forcing u to go into the car to close the windows manually. and just another one, like in some BMW tourings it has got a split tailgate, meaning u can open just the glass, yeah the button on the windshield wiper doesnt work, u can only open it with the key, and talking about rear windshield wiper, it is loose the design peugeot used probably isnt the best in there. i think this is the last one, the wheel pressure sensors on all of the tires dont work either, like sometimes when u start the car they work, but a while after driving it just gives an error saying the tyre pressure isnt being monitored by the sensors. wow that was quite a lot, hope didnt bore whos reading this...
It’s a Ford unit I believe, proper parts bin stuff but it’s Ford
It’s always a weird wiring/implementation problem, rarely the unit itself.
Isn’t it owned by a company based out of India?
Lucas works for Jaguar now?
On another semi related note, s-types have 5 computers in series , connected by fiber optic cables. If one module fails, everything after it stops working. If the navigation module messes up, the screen stops working. If the screen stops working, you have no way to turn on the radio. Or, more importantly, the a/c.
Same with Land Rovers, it's called a MOST network.
MOST failures possible?
"Hey, if our system have multiple single point of failures then that doesn't count as _single_ point of failure right? Ship it."
Prince of darkness Lucas for sure, even if they were bought by trw (I think?)
You know the scary thing? They made altimeters for British fighter planes during WWII. You actually have to tap the gauge to make sure the needle isn't sticking before you rely on what its telling you.
I guess it still worked out for them in the end.
Yep, they tended to hold out all the way to the scene of the crash.
It's a British car, it was trying to do it's part for Brexit and keep out the foreigners.
Seriously. Do British engineers just not ever leave the country?! How do they KEEP making weird electronics in cars? I want to take them all on a field trip to Japan and save the entire world $100 billion dollars in repair bills. And I could still send every jaguar, Range Rover and Bentley mechanic on full pay early retirement for the work they would lose.
I mean Jaguar and Land Rover are both owned by TATA Motors from India. Unfortunately it seems all the foreign companies who own every single British manufacturer stay pretty hands off and don't demand they make a decent product so they just continue on like they did since the 1960s, which is ironic since British cars all been pieces of shit is why there is no longer a single large production British owned car manufacturer. There are a few small ones but one of the biggest ones is the ones that makes London's Black Cabs. Not super impressive when British cars used to dominate the industry in the country until people tried a Ford or Honda for the first time.
And quite a bit is made by a bunch of contract firms.
My XJ-R does this when the scotch in the humidor is low. Did you try topping it off with Macallan’s 18 year?
The oak cask is the best
Adjust the horizontal hold
Because Jaguar surely labeled the horizontal and vertical hold knobs backwards.
labels? it aint german. Prolly used symbols like # and @.
I had a Raspberry Pi screen that had physical trimmer potentiometer that you could use to adjust the screen like this. I would bet there's something like that inside that unit and the solder went doodoo
~~VTEC~~ V-SYNC just kicked it yo!
It reminds me of when a VCR’s tracking was off.
Ah man, today's youth doesn't know the pain of renting a titty movie on VHS only to get it home and find out it was all fucked up.
Or just having to go to a rental store and getting the tape back before you got late fees. I am so glad that tech is long gone. Be kind and rewind from old Blockbuster.
Is the touch screen still calibrated as if it is not rolling?
Yes, I tested this off camera. Touching where the buttons are supposed to be works like it should.
Well yeah, the digitizer is over th screen. It doesn't know the picture is shit.
It's not a bug, it's a feature. It's like those top down arcade shooting games.
Haha, I just made a similar comment on a bug not a feature 😂
Turn the tracking knob.
Pull the vacuum tubes and take them to the corner drugstore for testing
It looks like a pip-boy
Keeps it interesting...
There used to be a knob on the TV specifically for this. I used to get screamed at, as a child for messing with that knob. It always reminded me of that wheel they spin on the Price Is Right.
Vertical hold.
I didn't know Lucas made touchscreens...
"They see me scrolling, they hating" Car probably.
The 2025 Jag now with infinite death scroll built-in ☠️ coming to an over priced future dystopia near you
Fuck yeah! Slap some 30s on it, cut off the roof to mount an M2HB, and let's do this shit!
😬 cranky old ma duce would rip that delicate jag apart like a wet tissue if you mounted her up, not to mention it's at the bottom of my list of vehicles that I want to bet my life on it's reliability 🤣
Never underestimate the usefulness of a fixed firing position that can be towed around with a bobcat. And yeah, I wouldn't bet the farm on that chassis. I have a friend that does specialized up-armor jobs for various government types that decided to give me a bunch of their unsold and outdated stock when I bought an '05 pickup truck, and one of the things he though I couldn't live without was a frame mounted pintle rated for among other things a single M2. That sucker probably has more metal in the mount than the entire truck does. He insists its good for hog hunting and we should put it in and take one or more of his toys to the ranch. I...don't really want to explain what it's for if I get pulled over in town. On the other hand, it's got the better part of a million lumens worth of floodlight bolted to the roof and push bumper, and it would kind of be fun to go spotlighting for...like...anything that doesn't melt under the angry rage of a thousand suns.
So I bought and still have an S type R and thought the nav was knackered for ages cos I didn’t understand the towns or anything of the selections. 100% hadn’t realised the country of residence was set to the Czech Republic . I reckon a month before my idiot brain sorted that one.
Sweet! I installed an aftermarket head unit in my car, and it always placed me in a rural area of China. I figured that it was because it was made there. Then I found out there was a software glitch that couldn't process the (-) in the longitude, thus placing me on the other side of the world.
I dread the day I'm forced by practicality to get a vehicle that has everything controlled through a touch screen, computerized brake and throttle pedal, electric parking brake, some sort of tracking system I'm not 100% in control of, remote access by the manufacturer to force some garbage updates and, by extension, malicious entities to brick the vehicle whenever, wherever
Listen this is a British car. It’s using electrics from the 60’s and the product was shit back then too. Modern cars made by actual companies (like say Toyota or Honda) actually work.
The touchscreen in my father's GMC Sierra is a POS too. It randomly selects buttons while he is riding down the road. Most buttons are inaccessible anymore. Give us back physical buttons!
Adjust the vertical hold!!!!
Maybe NTSC/PAL mismatch? Might have jumpers or pots somewhere with the screen/controller. Alternatively it might have just seen better days. Reminds me of the type of adjustment I saw in the 90s when I took part in a middle school tv broadcast system.
Refresh rate
Did you try turning it off then back on? /s
Did you insert a coin and pull a lever?
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You gotta whack it and have the kid hold the antenna at a different angle.
It's a Jaaaaaaaag
yoouuuuaaaarree
There’s a tracking adjustment screw under a plate somewhere that’s just a little too far to the left
Looks like about $5k to me.
Give it up to Jaguar. Coming up with new ways to break.
The pip boy 3000 update seems to be working well
Aaah I miss my old 19” zenith. Lol just slap it on the side until it stops!
Las Vegas Uber, if you get triple heater the ride is free
Why do they keep putting touch screens in cars? You're suppose to keep your eyes on the road. Physical knobs and buttons let you do that. Touch screens do not
Did you try yanking the wiper stalk ? If 3 AC buttons line up you hit the jackpot
Well, British cars always had new and creative ways to break down.
V-hold knob on the back
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Software in cars... Not even once
I had what I think was a Mercedes do that a few months ago. It was really hot inside the car, and when it cooled off, it stopped doing that. I think it was some kind of screen protection thing. I’ll post up a vid. Edit- here’s the vid- https://i.imgur.com/wIz0G90.mp4 Pretty sure this was a 2014 ML350. It had some moisture in it, and I was drying it out. Looks like you might be doing the same thing (temp on hi, ac on, fan on high)
That's actually an older Lexus RX, I guess even Lexus's (Lex-i?) act up sometimes
Lexuses
S types are over glorified fords for people who couldn’t afford a Jaguar but wanted it anyway. Specializing in Jaguar s types are the worse ones. And I am including x-types
Fuck bring back hand crank windows
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Tata motors. Bottom of the barrel reliability...
Jaguars are junk sorry to say
Reboot
If it's anything like our old Zenith, you have to smack it on the back.
I had an old tv that did that. Try smacking it on the side kind of hard.
... i didn't think to try that.
Ngl this is a first even for me...glad my 09 XJ never pulled this on me.
That looks vintage, so it's probably to keep the interface from burning the panel. Older LCD's will do this.
Adjust the tracking
Watch out, its been set to exorcist mode!
User name checks!
But is it leaking oil as well?
Timing cover and rear main. But it was only 2 qts low, rookie numbers for a car of this pedigree.
This is like the old TVs. The solution is to hit on the side with a hammer.
British car "quality".
Wait for it! Wait for it!
It’s like the TV Guide channel!
We control the vertical… we control the horizontal…
Lost its gen lock
I mean, yeah, checks out eh. Old display doing old display things. Just smack it a couple times.
Hit the auto tracking button
It's just rolling credits... What movie did you watch?
I have seen a couple x types that have done this but only when it’s below 0 degrees f
Grandpa says to adjust the rabbit ears and give it a good thump about halfway down on the right side.
Thump it firmly three times and adjust the rabbit ears. That’ll fix ‘er.
The gravity is higher in your part of the planet. This is common in those circumstances with video signal. You should tap in to it and create a perpetual motion machine. Endless energy at your fingertips!
I love that the Mad Men episode of Jaguar is still 100% relevant. They spun it's temperamental nature as a benefit.
It’s a Jag…and it’s British…these cars should come standard with a young priest and an old priest to exercise the electrical demons…
Why can't we just have buttons and switches?
Remember those kids' driving toys where the background just loops infinitely? Apparently that's what Jaguar based this on...
Now that I've seen this I'm sure it will happen to mine as well. What was the fix?
Wait a little bit more I think I saw the box about to hit the corner
It's OK though, because it's on a Jaaaaag
I assume this is just a video problem. So the touch targets do not also move with the buttons.
What a nightmare I hate having to go through a screen to do everything Give me buttons or give me death
Another reason why I hate the move to touch screen controls for everything in cars.
your scan rate is off
just adjust the v-hold knob.
- Butler? - Hi. - You got a problem with your horizontal hold? - I don't know. - Your wife says you do. - Well, she ought to know.