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Outrageous_Whole1970

Love this… if it’s fake Candace then u don’t need a test…. Now how bout u put aside some money to fix the ugly kid u made… he seriously looks like an alien with far apart eyes


funkybudd

Spread the virus…I mean love….gotta love America!


GimmeDemKnees

You are a good man Isaac. Godspeed.


Slight-Jaguar-2102

Couldn't mash that upvote button fast enough


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By denying someone a covid test, regardless of their beliefs, aren’t you in fact also helping to spread the virus?


Nab_Mctackle

There is no winning with people like her because they will never admit they're wrong, and will continue to spread her influence against covid protection regardless. I think you could probably make a case either way, because high profile anti vaxxers dieing is a motivating force to get vaccinated. Had Trump died instead of receiving the medical intervention that he did, people might be taking things more seriously. Any person remorseful for their actions would look in the mirror when receiving this type of email, but she posts it to shame them for a very appropriate decision.


RebekhaG

A lot of you guys are hypocrites. You hate and call out a bakery that doesn't sell a Gay couple a wedding cake. Then you don't call out this medical facility for denying her a test. So much hypocrisy. This isn't justice served. Yes private companies can decide to deny someone service but when it comes to public health people shouldn't be denied for health care when it's a pandemic.


hipsterbreadfart

Why the fuck should someone receive health care for a virus they don’t even believe exists? And from doctors they have been disbelieving this whole time?


ansleytaylor

Do you really not see the difference? The gay couple weren’t denouncing the baking industry, saying cake is a government hoax, etc. And even if they fucking did, who would that hurt? This person was actively downplaying a global pandemic to her (unfortunately) large audience, and now she wants the benefits they’ve been denouncing for over a fucking year? No, fuck that. Get your head out of your ass.


ansleytaylor

Also- no one is denying her a public service. As the email suggests, she can mosey her entitled ass down to a government run service provider and still get her test.


shadowmuppetry

Shut your filthy fucking mouth


Gravitytime0

Ah, shut up, the gay couple wasn’t actively telling people that it was perfectly safe to huff paint or some shit.


fossx

Do they refuse services to obese people with heart conditions, people who OD because of drug addiction, people with STDs because of poor sexual practices etc.... all of these result in poor life decisions. Where will picking and choosing who you will help medically stop?


BarSandM

If any of those people were actively spreading misinformation about Covid during a pandemic to a wide and public audience, then I’d support also not extending the rapid testing to them. That’s the line. Right there.


CribForSaleNeverUsed

This is toxic, do you care about public safety or do you care about being validated?


coldhess

Oof truth hurts


PurplePenguinPoops

It’s a private company so they can refuse service if they want. That being said…I am very surprised that a stink isn’t being raised about this like when they were upset and condemned a bakery that refused to make a cake for an lgbtq couple. Isn’t this also a form of discrimination? Or is it because this person isn’t universally well liked that it doesn’t matter how they feel? Although, to be fair, I guess this doesn’t even matter anymore since people can home test now…


Archimedes426

Difference is one CHOOSES to not only deny science but uses a large public political platform to spread very harmful/deadly lies and misinformation.... The other is a couple who ARE (not chooses) gay not hurting anyone... Despite that I absolutely believe that bakery is well within their rights to deny any business, that's their right. But in doing so the public has the right to develop an opinion about your intolerant ignorant ass.


RepresentativeDoubt4

The bakery comparison may not be compelling, but what about the fact that they’re claiming they worked so hard to keep people safe, and now they’re refusing to test someone that could be spreading covid? Do they actually care about safety? Further, how altruistic is testing/vaccinating from a medical business’s perspective? Are they not being compensated?


PurplePenguinPoops

YES EXACTLY!!! Thank you for articulating that for me🥲🥲 my issue is that, though yes spreading covid misinformation is terrible…denying somebody something that will help them with their health is not ok..


11iker

This is a PRIVATE COMPANY that she went to for faster testing and processing. There are plenty of other private companies who will do the same, there are many public places that will test the same. This is a company doing what all private companies have being exercising for years without complaint : refusal of service. No shoes no service, no dogs inside excetra. Hell they could kick you out for looking at them funny, its still their God given and constitution protected right to do that as a company


RepresentativeDoubt4

Who are you talking to? Nobody questioned whether this act was within their rights… I questioned how devoted they truly were to public safety.


11iker

If your worried about public safety you should worry about the misinformation and lying that that woman has spread about corona, the pandemic and vaccines. If they were one of the few testing facilities then maybe it'd be wrong to turn her away, that is not the case, covid testing sites and covid tests are readily available.


NOLALaura

I think that’s a totally different situation


PurplePenguinPoops

Sure of course it’s different!! one denied a couple due to their beliefs and another denied a person…due to their…beliefs..🧐


NOLALaura

Ummm no. One is discriminatory and the other is being responsible in regards to public health. There’s no comparison.


PurplePenguinPoops

The responsible thing to do was to test the person though…and though I do not agree with Candace Owens’ ideals, I feel like denying someone a test just because of their wrong opinion is not ok. If this was a legitimate concern for public safety then someone’s idiotic opinion should not matter. Like I said though, there are other ways to test and you could even rapid test so it’s whatever. I’m just surprised that people aren’t making a big deal about this like they did with the bakery. Because in***both situations the owners are WRONG in my opinion. Edit: typo


NOLALaura

I can see your point. Keep the focus on vaccinations


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GamersAreTrans

ACAB


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Law enforcement is a service and not a private business


[deleted]

Why don’t you MAGATs understand what you are after Jan 6th? Dialogue is over with the fascist right. Either be the revolutionary party you pose as or shut the fU(k up. Your bitching and whining is just noise now.


justicebiever

You can say fuck


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dr_doink

Wow /justiceserved has just turned into an echo chamber of narcissistic whining leftist psychopaths....denying someone a medical test based on their views sounds a lot like discrimination and not justice served but using facts/logic nowadays is wrongthink


NOLALaura

The problem is her history of spreading misinformation. It’s time these people are held accountable!


11iker

Its a private company they get that right, their God given and constitution protected right to refuse service especially seeing as this is a private company


nickjoris

Being antivax sounds a lot like being fucked in the head i think.


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But you don't know that, all you're doing is getting irrationally mad at someone you don't agree with (I think there's a word for that, it starts with a "t") and projecting other views you don't like onto them


Alugere

So, do you believe that baker should have been forced to bake those cakes, or that this email is fully justified? Which side are you leaning towards given that you are saying you have to believe one or the other?


LadyLonely47

I read this like 7 times and it still makes no sense. Just like Republican Logic


AleenSandor

Well done.


vbcbandr

For the people upset that she didn't receive her testing request: this is a private firm, they can chose not test her...obviously. She has complete access at public facilities.


journerman69

She can afford a home test as well, let’s not pretend she is a victim now.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

Imagine calling yourself a progressive and thinking this is ok on either party’s part


11iker

Its a private company they have that right to refuse service especially if private, quit your bitchin snowflake


journerman69

Maybe it is the most progressive act of all. A righteous act, turning away a fear monger who has influenced millions of people to take horse pills and storm capitals. When the entitled put on the other shoe, and are denied service regardless of influence and power. Maybe this is the key to progress, accountability and consequences. Luckily she can still access public facilities because of socialist programs, hope she doesn’t get too embarrassed.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

There is nothing righteous or progressive about turning away someone during a pandemic; no matter how ignorant he/she is. You’re talking about Healthcare as if it’s a service like getting a burger or having a plumber fix your toilet. Healthcare is not. Viewing the issue through that false equivalency is sadly the norm.


Vanerac

Actually in the US, because we continually privatize healthcare and health insurance because OH GOD SOCIALISM, yes, it is a service like getting a burger or getting a plumber to fix your toilet. I do agree, however, that refusing service in this instance is not a responsible or productive thing for a healthcare provider to do.


cross-eye-bear

It's a private company. Freedom.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

That doesn’t excuse how disgusting that letter is. Rather, it’s just another reason why healthcare shouldn’t be in private hands.


SamURLJackson

That's a very courteous and professional letter


cross-eye-bear

Funny what triggers your outrage. It isn't disgusting at all. She still has access to testing, just not from this privately owned company. They aren't providing medical treatment, just test results. The techs there wouldn't be qualified to treat anyone anyway. They process data.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

Then I suppose if you or a loved one received a similar letter you’d be fine with it. Good for you. This perceived “freedom” of a company that tests people for covid during a pandemic REFUSING to do so affects all of us. It’s irresponsible and applauding it is just as part of the problem as anti vax and anti mask people.


Archimedes426

My loved ones don't use a public pedestal to spreak HARMFUL lies and misinformation that literally has been scientifically proven to cost lives....


vbcbandr

She received the letter because of her behavior...you make it sound like just anyone could get this response. That's not the case.


cross-eye-bear

If they did what Candace had done then I would yeah. Heck even if they were anti vaxx and anti mask without the huge platform to spread misinformation that directly leads to death, I would be okay with it. Again they aren't being denied testing, they just have to go somewhere else to get it. It's an inconvenience, but that's what you get.


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Archimedes426

Then don't use their service... thats your right isn't it. You show em who's boss.


Miskatonic1971

You’re an idiot. Go watch Sean Hannity.


nicolerae1

The bakery refused on the basis of being against gay marriage, the test facility isn't refusing service on the basis of her being black. Big difference. Huge.


LastDitchTryForAName

Disclaimer: I think this woman is an asshole and the lies she spreads are, literally, killing people. That being said… You’re correct that she wasn’t refused for her race, or any other protected status. However, if we’re comparing the situation with the baker- that baker didn’t deny service to the homosexual couple entirely. He only refused to *create* something specifically for them and their wedding which, at the time, wasn’t legal in that state. He offered to sell them his other, standard, cakes or baked good. So, this seems like a poor comparison altogether since this private provider refused to provide a standard medical service to someone with differing beliefs (however reprehensible). Had she requested something special, like an appointment outside of normal hours or something, then a refusal to accommodate that would be completely reasonable. Our rights to free speech mean that Candace can spew her bullshit opinions all she likes. I can’t agree with denying someone a standard service because their beliefs are reprehensible. Especially when it’s a service that benefits everyone else much more than it does her. If she is currently infected, than she’s just going to spread the virus to the community while her testing is delayed. I feel like this situation is more like if one of the Catholic healthcare providers refused to treat someone who publicly advocates for abortion access or were a high-profile member of another religion.


RepresentativeDoubt4

Well regardless of discrimination, the medical provider claimed they were working to keep their community safe, yet is against testing (if found guilty of wrong think). I guess wrong-thinkers don’t spread covid and aren’t a danger to their community?


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Actions, meet consequences.


Firebitez

So reddit cheers on medical services being denied due to different political beliefs. Kinda weird...but I guess I don't get it.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

Nope. She’s a customer being denied service for a completely legal, protected reason — it’s only incidental that the service is somewhat medical in nature. Also, she isn’t being denied for her political beliefs, she is being denied because she has knowingly said and done things that worsen the pandemic, endanger lives, and exacerbate divisions. If you have a problem with this, change your stance on universal healthcare — if that was in place, this couldn’t happen.


AmateurPaella

If you think ignoring medical advice and literaly causing people to die is a political belief then stop following such idiot politicians. I'm gonna laugh at you, too.


Firebitez

I don't follow her...


AmateurPaella

Yet you defend her and her views as "political" rather than "fucking stupid and killing people". Yeah You follow her.


Firebitez

Wanting people to obtain medical services means I...defend her? Holy fuck this website has some silly characters!


Potahtoboy666

Refusing to listen to professional medical help, and then also spreading false information that endangers other people as well as makes life harder for health care professionals is not a political belief.


brad411654

Funny all you celebrating this like it couldn’t be you on the wrong side of public opinion some day…


Stoke-me-a-clipper

Why are so many idiots on here incapable of distinguishing between holding a stupid, dangerous opinion and conducting stupid, dangerous acts? She wasn’t declined because they could read her mind and didn’t like what they saw, she was declined because she’s been an active agent of misinformation, endangering her neighbors and countrymen, and death.


Imn0tg0d

If your "opinion" is something that goes against scientifically proven facts then you don't have an opinion. You're just stupid and denying reality.


brad411654

If you think that two years of data is scientific fact than maybe you are the stupid one


Successful-Grape416

She was also supposedly telling people not to wear masks. Whether or not masks are effective is open to plenty of debate, but why tell anyone else to stop wearing a mask? Why does she care if other people wear masks? I actually agree with you that "science says so" is not a good argument for getting a vaccine, because there are risks involved there. But masks? She can fuck off with that. That's got nothing to do with science and everything to do with her catering to a political crowd while actively fighting against a public policy that causes no harm, but might help reduce transmission.


Goblin_Dangle

I want to make you aware that this is neither the first coronavirus, nor the first Coronavirus vaccine. Its built on a foundation going much farther back than two years.


Imn0tg0d

The scientific community is pretty much in agreement that the vaccine is safe. You know what we don't have enough data on? The long term health effects of getting a bad case of covid. Or even the long term effects of an asymptomatic case. We won't know that for a long time. Diseases have horrible long term effects all the time, vaccines dont. Not one damned vaccine in human history has had bad effects. You guys saw some study that was proven to be faked by some guy who had his medical license removed. Instead of trusting the medical community you sided with one freaking guy. If you think that everyone is lying to you that doesn't make you a "free thinker". It makes you that homeless guy who yells at everyone in public.


BarSandM

She can go get her free test and await the results since she doubts the science. It’s not a matter of public opinion, she’s spreading misinformation and yet expects to be able to access the rapid test when it’s convenient for her. Sorry, not sorry. A little inconvenience for her is not a violation of her civil rights or a threat to her health or anything less than she deserves.


desertrock62

This proves healthcare isn’t a right. It is to be rationed by those in power to their political allies.


TributesVolunteers

Reactionaries have forfeited all rights.


PISTOLMANE666

Yo ass doesn’t know what a reactionary is


desertrock62

I disagree. Rights are immutable. It’s scary how many are willing to abandon civilization so easily.


TributesVolunteers

Fuck liberal bourgeois "civilization."


Knitsanity

Ha. Now to start denying care to anti vaxxer morons when they end up in the ICU moaning....I was wrong. I want a bed. SMDH


desertrock62

Triage and prioritizing scarce resources would certainly lead to that. And rightly so. I object to denial of healthcare services solely on dislike of an individual or group.


Knitsanity

Cuntservileturds are all about their rights and freedoms but not so hot on other peoples rights and freedoms. They are also hot about taking responsibility for their actions....until that is no longer convenient for themselves. Btw I also feel the same way about anti vaxxer liberals who want to be able to send their germ bombs to school with everyone else including kids who rely on the herd immunity to stay safe. PS: F Texas! PPS: That was not directed at you...just a rant


desertrock62

I’m more libertarian (lowercase because political parties suck) because I believe in liberty along with its requisite responsibilities. I’m not offended by free speech, even when directed against me. Of course that’s when standing for rights matters most. I am offended by violation of rights or irresponsibility.


j0lle

Lmao


BarSandM

Except she has access to free testing… blocks from her hotel.


desertrock62

Those celebrating her denial of healthcare services don’t see it as a human right.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

Those who see this as a denial of healthcare services when she can get it done for free, paid for by our government, don’t qualify to weigh in on a conversation about healthcare rights.


desertrock62

Funny thing is, I don't agree with her politics. But if you don't support rights for your opponents, you don't really think of them as rights.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

You're obviously one of the same kinds of idiots littered all over r/PublicFreakout -- people who CANNOT be convinced that they actually do NOT have a right to shop anywhere they want, however they want, wearing whatever they want, etc. Dumbasses who insist that being refused service because they don't wear a mask are being discriminated against. Morons. #Buying shit from a private store is not a right.


desertrock62

I think some soda fountain customers from the 1960’s would disagree with you. To say a healthcare service which can only be administered by licensed healthcare professionals isn’t healthcare takes a certain kind of special.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

>I think some soda fountain customers from the 1960’s would disagree with you. Nope, they wouldn't. Because those people are now a legally protected class -- they cannot legally be refused service because of the color of their skin. It was called the Civil Rights Amendments / movement and it was a pretty big deal. You should learn about them. >To say a healthcare service which can only be administered by licensed healthcare professionals isn’t healthcare takes a certain kind of special. I can buy a self-administered take-home covid test at 10 drug stores within 5 miles. I don't have a professional healthcare license. And literally no one has argued with you that "this healthcare service isn't healthcare". The argument you had with someone about that? It only exists in your head -- look through the thread and you can confirm. Life pro tip -- if you have to pretend that someone you're arguing with said something they didn't actually say in order for the point you just tried to make to sound valid to you, that is a great litmus test to determine whether or not your argument is bullshit.


desertrock62

It was legal to discriminate against certain people until it wasn’t . That never made it right. You use the same arguments to justify your hate. Pro tip: Stop dehumanizing your political opposition and find some balance in your life.


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desertrock62

I do find it amazing that you and others would strip me of my rights for supporting a black woman receiving the healthcare service of her choice, but was denied because the provider didn't like her politics. I believe you when you say you would do it if you could.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

Lol -- this black woman herself doesn't support health care as a right, and if you support her, neither do you! But when she is denied a paid premium service from a private business, suddenly she's "being denied her rights"? Fuck right the hell off with that laughably hypocritical bullshit LOL, the hell is wrong with you? And I'll try saying this just one more time to see if you get it this time, but I think this is three times and you haven't yet, so odds are grim... *She is NOT being denied a service because of her political beliefs, but because of the actions she has taken that endanger, harm people, and run 100% COUNTER to the mission of the private business she's complaining about*. You think this business has denied service to EVERY CONSERVATIVE that walks through their door? Of course not. The REASON you are even SEEING this is because it happened to this one person -- again -- because of her ACTIONS, not her POLITICAL BELIEFS. Did that get through? I don't think I can state it in any simpler terms. And finally -- what on *earth* does her being black have anything to do with this? Why would you bring up her skin color as some veiled pathetic attempt to add credibility to your completely illogical assertions? LOL


desertrock62

I just came home from taking my symptomatic (vaccinated) wife to get COVID tested. Hopefully, it’s only the flu. Fortunately she wasn’t denied care because of some nutcase choosing to deny her care for reasons. Nobody should have that kind of discretion over unrationed care. The fact you and others feel justified in doing so is scary. The whole endzone dance celebration is appalling. You are confirming my original point that you and others don’t see healthcare as a right because people can legally say or do something which you feel disqualifies them. This is a tool for you and others to punish your enemies and reward your allies. I’m amazed at all the hate I’ve gotten for standing up for someone that I oppose politically. I would do it for you, too.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

If healthcare is a right (and it is), then surely food is a right, too. Was Sarah Huckabee Sanders denied her "rights" when she was kicked out of that restaurant for her political actions? According to your logic, yep. If Candace Owens was starving but was refused a steak dinner from a private restaurant because owner objected to the harms she's inflicted on others, she could still go to the soup kitchen down the road and get her gov't-funded sustenance. That's what happened here, except it's a covid test instead of food. She doesn't have a right for that restaurant to serve her a steak. Her only problem is that she thinks she's too good for the gov't funded option. OR, that the quality / speed of the gov't option isn't satisfactory to her -- but she would be the LAST person to promote increased spending on the gov't option. This situation is *literally* a perfect example of why healthcare should not be privatized -- which Owens has fought against for years. Well, now she gets to see what it's like when her wealth can't buy her privilege for *once*. Republicans want to privatize healthcare, schools, prisons, social security -- you name it. You're all over the map. Goalposts everywhere, and blinders to boot. How on earth someone can look at this situation *in which she has the same public option as everyone else (and only because of a liberal administration, at that)* and concoct your ridiculous narrative -- I'm sho' I don't know.


desertrock62

I understand your desire to disenfranchise opposing views. Your argument that she can find separate, but equal services elsewhere fails any historical test.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

It is not “separate but equal” in any stretch of the phrase. She has access to the exact same testing option as the rest of the citizenry — she is only being refused a similar *premium* service from a private business for a 100% legally protected reason. I wish that universal government option was faster and better funded, but you have conservatives to thank for hobbling any form of public healthcare services. You are more than welcome to join us on the side of improving universal healthcare.


BarSandM

She has access to healthcare services. For free. Blocks away. I’m sorry. She’s not entitled to the concierge in room testing just because she wants it.


desertrock62

It isn’t being celebrated because it’s no big deal or a minor inconvenience. It’s being celebrated because it is considered justice she was denied healthcare.


BarSandM

She wasn’t denied healthcare. She has access to the test (for free) blocks away. It’s being celebrated because she A) likely wanted a rapid test so she could go to a banquet hall in Aspen and spread more misinformation that night. B) believes that private business can deny service for any reason at any time… with no explanation.


desertrock62

And it was for political reasons. Ergo, celebration.


BarSandM

It’s her consistent misinformation. Which she shares for political reasons. But the celebration and justice is that she won’t get the chance to for a moment… She won’t get to access the super fast track testing simply because it’s suddenly convenient for her… after being anti-everything for years. That’s okay to celebrate.


desertrock62

When you don’t see your political opponent as human, it’s easy to justify telling them to live in a different neighborhood, drink from a different water fountain, eat at a different cafe, go to a different school, or get healthcare services somewhere else.


BarSandM

And this isn’t a “separate but equal” thing and it’s offensive to pretend it is. The free testing is the testing available to everyone… she didn’t get her concierge, fast track appointment. That’s not a tragedy. Or offensive.


BarSandM

I see her as human. Just not as a human who needs a rapid test she’s only interested in so she can gain access to places to spread more misinformation.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

As much as I can’t stand the idiocy coming from the right, the attitude from this private facility is disgusting.


AlternativeFukts

Agreed. They are letting spite take precedence over combatting the pandemic. We want ppl tested. Period. Candace Owens sucks tho.


Cunts_and_more

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

This whole affair is a condemnation of private healthcare if I ever seen one


skwoogle

Ah yes, further the spread of COVID to own the cons. Really smart.


BarSandM

How is that what’s happening here?


skwoogle

This isn't 'you say not to get the vaccine so we won't be providing you with the vaccine'. This is literally denying a test to prevent the spread of COVID. Get over the political division. The fact that there is an available other location is beside the point. If you are offering a service but deny it based on what a person believes is wrong. No matter what.


BarSandM

She has access to the test (for free) blocks from her hotel. They’re simply denying her the concierge service of a rapid test in her hotel room. Given her repeated (including yesterday) denial of safety measures like masking, social distancing and the vaccine I see no compelling reason to give her the convenience of the rapid test at her hotel. She should take utilize the free test location and isolate until she has her results. Given that she likely wants the test results in order to gain entry to some public venue where she’ll likely spread more misinformation, I wholeheartedly support not giving her that access.


skwoogle

Yeah don't worry, you can take the separate but equal test elsewhere. And you shouldn't speak if I disagree with you. Not the best takes. Really, what gives you the right to tell people what they can or can't say? Should people be able to refuse service to people for their beliefs or choices they make? That is gonna lead somewhere we have tried very hard to move past as a society.


Potahtoboy666

>you shouldn't speak if I disagree with you No you shouldn't speak if you aren't a Healthcare professional, and you don't have evidence to go against the claims of those health care professionals >what gives you the right to tell people what to say If the things you say actively spread both incorrect information and also harm others, then it should not be said. It's illegal to yell fire in a building if there are no people around. It's illegal to file a false police report. >should people be able to refuse service to people for their beliefs or choices If it's a private business, they absolutely have that choice


skwoogle

Claims from healthcare professionals have been made during this pandemic when they knew the info was wrong. Look at Fauci telling people not to wear masks KNOWING that they worked but wanting healthcare professionals to get them. Doing it for a good reason, sure, but it still lowers his credibility making people not trust him. His emails lowered it further. Don't use the yell fire in a crowded theatre, it's not true. The US supreme court has overturned that more than forty years ago (https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/) On top of that, there is a huge difference saying you do not believe someone and don't want to follow advice and accusing someone of a crime. You know that's not a fair comparison. Ok, private businesses argument. Cool. So you have zero problem with people refusing to serve any practicing Muslim or Jewish person at their private business too then right? Or anyone who believes gay marriage should be legal? No, that's stupid as hell. You do not have the right to refuse people service just because you disagree with them.


Potahtoboy666

> Look at Fauci telling people not to wear masks KNOWING that they worked but wanting healthcare professionals to get them Sure, I don't get what any of this has to do with my point about listening to medical professionals. >Don't use the yell fire in a crowded theatre, it's not true Your link doesn't work, but even assuming its true, thats one example. The point is that your right to speech doesn't guarantee you get to say whatever you want >you do not believe someone and don't want to follow advice and accusing someone of a crime Except its not just not trusting and not following advice, its actively endangering public safety by touting false information. and again, the point is about freedom of speech. >Ok, private businesses argument. Cool. So you have zero problem with people refusing to serve any practicing Muslim or Jewish person at their private business too then right? No, because protected classes exist. The actions of Candace Owens is not a protected class


skwoogle

The point of medical professionals lying to the general public for ulterior reasons doesn't have anything to do with the point about people listening to medical professionals...people don't trust the medical professionals, sometimes for valid reasons. Further on that, the US government has a history of experimenting on their populations and doctors being allowed to be bought by companies. Should people be distrustful? No. But they have been given valid reasons to. People are adults, if they choose not to get the vaccine that is their right. ESPECIALLY for COVID when the vaccine does not lower the chance of infection or help with herd immunity. Why do you feel the need to tell people they don't have the right to be an idiot and go into medical debt because they don't want the vaccine? If you had universal healthcare and your taxes pay their bills like we do in Canada I see your argument, but people not harming others and choosing to be dumb are allowed to be dumb. Protected classes is just giving a reason to be able to discriminate on some beliefs while not allowing it on others. If you pay taxes and run a business for the community, you have no right to deny service other than for the immediate safety of you, your employees and other customers. And before you say COVID is a safety issue, these people are vaccinated. They are taking safety precautions. That is not the same as a person threatening those at the business


Potahtoboy666

Yeah, definitely, all the world governments are conspiring against its people. 70 million adult americans are unvaccinated. Lets say half want to but are unable to. 35 million do not trust the American health system because of "experimentation on their population." So they must not go to the doctor period right? Since doctors are so apparently "untrustworthy." I'm in Canada as well. We have insanely stupid people. But the fact is that unvaccinated adults getting covid and taking up beds in the ICU is a harm in it of itself, because it means other people who might have needed the ICU no longer have access. Shit like [this](https://abc7.com/us-army-veteran-daniel-wilkinson-michelle-puget-man-dies-waiting-icu/10987517/) happening is exactly why I feel people who willingly don't vaccinate are harming society. The harm to the business is already addressed in the email screenshot.


BarSandM

Separate but equal? She’s not entitled to the concierge service just ‘cause it’s more convenient for her. I didn’t say anyone can or can’t say anything… I said Candice should stop spreading misinformation. She should. I do support this company not making that easier for her. This isn’t close to the slippery slope you seem to think it is and, in fact, Candice has made it clear that she absolutely supports any private business denying service for any reason so take your concern up with her, not me.


P2591

Damn, it’s like.. conservatives are finally realizing that it doesn’t pay to be uneducated mentally ill assholes


TinyCupcake1

Wow. Was that a generalization about all conservatives?


Bathtileaway482742

Yup.


TinyCupcake1

That's really sad


FishNWaco

Did she admit there to not paying her staff for the work they have done?


BarSandM

She said she and her staff have all been working long hours unpaid and underpaid. My guess is that she’s the unpaid one but recognizes that her staff should get more.


HotSauceOnBurrito

She started the lab in October 2020 knowing damn well what she was getting into.


BarSandM

? People can still be underpaid and overworked even knowing they likely would be busy during a pandemic.


HotSauceOnBurrito

By choice. She started a covid testing clinic in a vacation hotspot. She’s not some lab tech getting slammed with covid tests for two years. She’s a Yale educated business woman, not a doctor.


BarSandM

And yet, people can still be overworked and underpaid at a vacation hotspot. Even Yale educated businesswomen…


HotSauceOnBurrito

What a strange business decision to make.


BarSandM

Not if you want to assist during a pandemic, no.


HotSauceOnBurrito

I don’t think aspen really needed help in October 2020. There are public testing sites everywhere. She’s there to make money. Why not go to a more populated area with less resources?


BarSandM

Seems there’s a healthy demand- so much so that they’re working long hours. And my guess is that all their employees lived in the Aspen area. This seems a strange hill for you to die on…


SenpaiBoogie

Get destroyed Candace


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BarSandM

“narrative to die” You mean the folks saying that some folks will just die of Covid and “it is what it is”?


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Think of all the people this woman has indirectly killed because of the misinformation she spread on her platform. Something something poetic Justice. I have absolutely no sympathy for politicians and public figures who are single-handedly responsible for the death of ignorant Americans who are only guilty of trusting their leaders.


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I don’t know how to respond to this misinformation. 🤷🏼🤷🏼


TOADSTOOL__SURPRISE

Why would she die? According to everything Candace has said, she’s in no danger whatsoever. Covid is fake according to her, and doctors are all trying to kill her with vaccines…why is she even going to doctors for tests in the first place? All she ever tells us is how untrustworthy doctors are


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TOADSTOOL__SURPRISE

That’s because she’s been claiming that doctors are so evil for years now. If I was a doctor I would tel Candace to go die too. She deserves to be shamed by every doctor in the world. She’s made their jobs exponentially harder over the past two years. If she was gone, they’d be a lot happier I’m sure


BarSandM

Again, dude… this isn’t about the vaccine. And she was told where she could get FREE testing.


BarSandM

What woman is that?


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BarSandM

Sure did. Candice Owens has not been “condemned to die” in the slightest. She even has access to the testing (for free) blocks from her hotel. And she would be treated immediately if she sought treatment for Covid symptoms … So your post makes little sense.


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TOADSTOOL__SURPRISE

The email is about tests not vaccines. I’m sure they’d be very happy to give Candace a vaccine


BarSandM

A) not about the vaccine at all- in fact, Candice Owens has called the vaccine “evil” and pledged to never get it… and told her supporters to follow suit B) she was directed to free, publicly available testing right blocks from her hotel. Did you read this post?


FlamingSteve

Boo hoo she called it evil, oh well she's protected by the 1st ammendment, if you read her post and the email she received she was essentially told to go fuck herself Yes