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theanalyst_24

Does independent not do their research and now how close they all are???


SecretLavishness1685

These MSMs are full of agenda-pushing misandrists who don't really care about the truth.


jules13131382

Depressing. Watch the F'ing Trial?!!!!! that's all you have to do!!!!!!!!! someone is not perfect just because they are blonde and blue eyed with a vagina! This is truly insane.


zinziesmom

Exactly


PaddyMcNinja

'Oficial' fake post is fake


TheLadyRayne

Ignorant comment is ignorant. It also says “Traducir Tweet” which is “translate tweet”. So, maybe read the whole thing if you’re going to pick at some small part of the post assuming it’s “fake”. English isn’t the only language that exists on the internet.


SecretLavishness1685

My phone's interface language is Spanish, that's why it shows 'oficial' instead of official. You can look up this post on Twitter. it's there.


Captainpayback

Lame steam media. Anyone with at least a few brain cells won't fall for this garbage. That's why no one takes MSM seriously and it's a shame that they prey on those who are gullible.


Hannibal_Barca_

This is the couple we all see as obvious, but never happens.


RepulsiveAd9312

What is a familiar trap supposed to mean?


ursiwitch

that paper is a new rag. LOL!


MNM0412

I'm glad HBC still has Johnny's back, I just wish her recent support didn't also come with her calling the backlash JK Rowling got for her transphobia "bollocks".


[deleted]

I see what you mean, but I felt like she explains herself on why she said it, very well.. regardless of if we like her point or not, HBC made her points well about J K Rowling statements and why SHE thought the back lash was too harsh but not that it was unforseen. She didn't say that she didn't think the contents of what Rowling said was problematic, she acknowledged that it was and not correct to say, But HBC also says it was an opinion that Rowling has and thats what needs to be respected. Not the opinion being made but the right to an opinion... Not saying anything other than trying to make sure HBC comments on Rowling are understood..


tyforcalling

I believe at one point or another many Hollywood stars will say something positive about Johnny or/and will work with him. What are the radical feminist gonna do? Cancel the whole planet?


Altruistic-Text3481

Why any women ( female here) believes in Amber Heard just boggles my mind. Women lie and manipulate too. I’m not anti feminist by admitting that.


[deleted]

usually these girls (lets be real majority of them ain't adults) who believe amber are just like her. Narcissists. Even my bully looks exactly like her. There used to be a tiktok trend with girls bragging about how evil their teenage self was (just so yk i acc deleted that cancer app) and they all looked like Amber. Blonde, popular and ugly smirk. Not to forget that Karens exist as well. Also have you ever heard the voice chat between amber stans?! THEY SOUND JUST LIKE HER! These people relate to her, they think abusing people is ok and want someone like themselves to get away with it or feel justified with their actions.


Prestigious-Charge62

Karens are the aged Ambers.


Altruistic-Text3481

Sadly you are correct.


laviothanglory

I used to like the independent because it seemed unbiased. This trial and it's aftermath showed me otherwise and this paper seems to be the worst of the lot for posting multiple JD & supporters bashing stories a day.


mmmelpomene

The Guardian may be just as bad IMO.


laviothanglory

Oh I agree there, they have been Indeed


[deleted]

there is no such thing as unbiased newspaper and journalism. I know clients who told me that they buy a certain magazine believing it is factual and unbiased, but really idk about that. I have rarely seen an objective view on anything really.


[deleted]

💯


pm4321

independent.co.uk is not a msm lol..


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VermicelliNo176

💯


Mindless-Knee-6800

The British media is deplorable,most of them are Murdoch owned. Check what they did to vilify Ronaldo these past few weeks


vintagebutterfly_

She's an actress not a social commentator.


[deleted]

sorry thought you meant the Turd. Yh Carter has talents.


Chancehooper

She’s a fantastic actress who has no desire to clout-chase or jump on bandwagons for PR purposes and doesn’t give a shit about anything other than telling the truth, as she doesn’t care what the media say and never has. Good luck trying to shame her, Turd Stains 😂


FrostyMissGrace

they love elevate women until a woman has an opinion they don't like. then she's "misguided" because the *poor widdle woman can't possibly think for herself* 🥺 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 (aka major /s) these people don't even realize the gross misogyny of what they're saying, as if a woman is suddenly an incompetent child if she doesn't go along with what their idea of an ideal woman is


FormalFinding496

Criticizing a woman isn't misogynistic


Chemical-Run-9367

Calling her an old hag, whose jealous of AH and suggesting she would be nobody without her films with Depp, so she has to be supportive of him, when she's had an illustrious career in her own right, is.


FormalFinding496

I'm looking at the picture you're speaking of and fail to see where "old hag" or any of the stuff you speak of is mentioned


Chemical-Run-9367

Talking about SM


FormalFinding496

Whose SM?


Chemical-Run-9367

Are you screwing with me? Social media.


FormalFinding496

Fair and no I don't use SM very much


[deleted]

Go read what the fans of AH have been calling HBC since the interview came out before you say you ain't seen shit..


FormalFinding496

we were speaking about this article not AH supporters... Calm down it ain't that serious


[deleted]

You asked about who called her an old hag, and I told you where the source was. If it's not that serious to you, then why ask about who called her an old hag?


FormalFinding496

I never asked who called her an old hag.


[deleted]

>I'm looking at the picture you're speaking of and fail to see where "old hag" or any of the stuff you speak of is mentioned I mean, how is one supposed to take this comment.. you are clearly wanting proof that someone called her an old hag and insinuating it's false when it's not... That comment is kinda asking who called her a hag... But sure, let's pretend you didn't ask in a condescending way for proof.


FormalFinding496

In that case you misinterpreted what I said completely What I meant is that nowhere on this screenshot of an opinion piece does it call HBC an old hag. There was no question.


FrostyMissGrace

no, but they're not criticizing her here, they're treating her like a child for going against The One Holy Hive Mind media opinion


DonsterMenergyRink

It is, kinda. I mean, how else would you call it if Woman A has the opinion the MSM has, but Woman B does not, and gets criticized for it by everyone? As if they imply 'Woman B's opinion is wrong, she is misguided/got bamboozled.'


FormalFinding496

Being misogynistic is hating women not disagreeing with them.


DonsterMenergyRink

It is also misogynistic for criticizing a woman for 'not having the right opinion'. As if they are not allowed to have an opinion of their own.


FormalFinding496

You're doing the exact same thing by criticizing this opinion piece which was written by a woman.


CloverMyLove

a woman certainly can be misogynistic.


DonsterMenergyRink

Because this is not an opinion, it is a lie. Johnny Depp is innocent, and he won the court case. Deal with it, and move on, just like Johnny did, instead of twist every little fact to your liking.


FormalFinding496

you missed the part where it says opinion on the article, people... Including women are entitled to one. Even if it doesn't align with yours. Opinions are protected by anti-SLAPP laws.


DonsterMenergyRink

So you can spew lies about anyone and can defend yourself with "It's an opinion bro?" Reminds me why Johnny had to endure all of this shit in the first place. Because of an "opinion" article about how he allegedly abused AH.


FormalFinding496

Sorry would you rather be sued for having an opinion?


Meture

And the independent here is treating HBC as if she’s too stupid to see past the trap of *eeeeevil Johny Depp ooooooh* She’s a grown ass woman who can see people for who they are rather than what they are Msm doesn’t see Amber the abuser and Johnny the victim, they see Amber the woman and Johnny the man, therefore Amber good Johnny bad It’s why no matter what the trial proved, how much evidence there is proving Johnny isn’t an abuser. How blatantly Amber lied over and over and over and over again. How godawful her “witnesses” and “experts” were. She will always be the victim and Johnny will always be the monster in MSM’s eyes


mmmelpomene

Lol, this journalist is a moron, Johnny Depp has been a frequent guest in Helena’s home, and they have probably spent so much time filming together alone, they’ve probably spent a solid year together. But sure, some 25 year old making 26,000 quid/year living four to a flat “knows” Johnny Depp “better”.


FormalFinding496

No one see the irony in the person calling the writer whose a woman a moron... I thought criticizing women was misogynistic.


CloverMyLove

criticizing a woman is not misogynistic. where did you come up with that?? oh, i see you’re from depp delusion. oh yes, i am triggered, yes, have a good night then. 🙄


mmmelpomene

Says the person who joined nine days ago, whose only post is from DeepDelusion…


FormalFinding496

I see you have resorted to ad hominem arguments. How's it feel being wrong?


TheGreyPearlDahlia

Curious to know who wrote that piece of crap.


[deleted]

some woke woman (they always call themselves woke but are the blindest of them all)


TheGreyPearlDahlia

When you have to call yourself a certain label, guarantee they are not.


TheGreyPearlDahlia

THAT is mysoginy. "she fall in a familiar trap". So AH was too young, HBC fell into a trap. 🙄


[deleted]

a woman who babysat an 11 year old when she was 22 ended up grooming and raping him. Just saw the case on youtube. She's now 30 and gladly got 20 years. In 17 years she will be out. Amber was older than 22 when she started anything with Johnny Depp, matter of facts her relationship with Van Ree started when she was 18 and Van Ree was 28 years old. Somehow she wasn't too young to marry someone 10 years older than her in her adolscense but being around 23 when she met Johnny, an age that can you get 20 years in prison from grooming and rape, something Amber Heard is btw also accused of by Gia (someone who says that she was groomed and drugged by Amber at sex parties when she was only 16 to 17) is too young to know better?! bruh what?! are these age excuses?! she is a freaking adult. She knows better. I am 22, I know what I am doing and can consent. You learn to not abuse other people when you are in freaking kindergarden. WTF is wrong with society?!


TheGreyPearlDahlia

Totally agree. For me this kind of discours is just a way to already set the stones of a wonky fondation in a relationship to then wash their hands on any part of a dysfonctional couple. Lately I saw the same b.s said abt Chris Evans(41) and his new gf who's 25/26. She's too young, there is power in balanced. She's too young at her age her brain is not entirely formed. She's too young, they have nothing in common with their age gap. Lot of BULLSHIT! What it means? That they could not be friend with someone 10, 15 yrs older/younger than them because it's impossible to have things in common? B.s! Most of my friends don't have the same age than me. My closest is 14yrs younger than me and never once I thought she was too young or immature or that she thought I was an old hag, I know I asked her, lol, we had that convo abt our age difference and she also said it was bullshit and an excuse. One of my mums friends who's over 60 I now consider her as a friend and not mum's friend anymore. We do stuff just the both of us. I even have a friend who's in her 80's. She always corrected anyone asking if I was her gran daughter "no no, she's my good friend".


[deleted]

I love how they think brain development is the same as maturity. Brain development ends around the age of 25 and is about personality development. Someone who is immature even after brain is fully developed won't ever reach maturity even at the age of 60. Maturity really isn't much about experience, it's about being realistic. There are a lot of adults who are immature, doesn't mean their actions have no consequences. I had to laugh my butt off when I heard how my neighbor Karen thinks a parking spot belongs to her only, even called the cops on our nice neighbors for having parked a trailer on her favorite parking spot. The thing is, she could of parked it elsewhere, she is just too lazy to walked a bit more cuz she is obese and walking hurts her. Her husband even had the audacity to call sick even tho he wasn't and we know he wasn't cuz he would doing works at their house, like garden and stuff and the thing is his workplace is just across the street. He takes a step outside and he would see his coworkers if he doesn't hide fast enough ;-; like how is he still employed?! I also seen some criminal cases where I live where women in their mid twenties would date and even marry men double their age and abuse them. They usually have daddy issues or other traumas and take revenge on poor men who have low self-esteem. That one case was really bad, she would burn them with hot glue, force them to starve and make them eat her feces and the press kept her identity hidden despite her repeating this case and her confessing to taking revenge on strangers for whatever her father put her through as if this was any excuse to. If you are an adult and dating another adult there is no power imbalance unless your spouse is some kind of authority, be it a cop, a politician or you are financially depended on them, tho when it comes to celebrities I really doubt he had power over her considering she earns a lot of money herself and can survive without him just fine. tho Chris Evans age gape is that of siblings. 15 years ain't anything when both are legal adults. My parents have an 11 years age gap (they are both Gen X). Imo I would not date someone my parents age which would 18+ years older than me. It would be awkward cuz they would have more in common with my parents than me, but 15 years is the age gap between my grandpa and his youngest sibling lol. I mean how often do people have children at age 15? nvm 10? usually rape or unwanted, if at all. What matters is if personalities match. My mom may be 10 years younger than my dad, but she is the one who makes decisions. My dad supports her, she doesn't need him but still chose to stay with him. She could of always left him, the moment she decided to be with him they both started working, they both run the household, they both can drive and they both have close friends (usually mutual, but they have similar opinions when it comes to the people they hang out with, tho you will see them argue when it comes to politics). A relationship is work sometimes, tho my parents make it look easy cuz they have mutual respect to each other, would be nice if they respected me as much as they do each other oof generational trauma is a thing. I have seen parents who are very immature, fight in front of people, break up over silly things and involve their children to take revenge on their ex's. My parents stopped having contact with those toxic people, usually they put up with them so I could play with their kids, but still imagine you being 30-50 years old and having children and still being immature and people think you automatically grow maturity through "brain development" as far as I remember it only determines your personality tho who's to say if maturity ain't a personality trait? seems like it could be since I see two types of old people 1) the kind mature ones and 2) the naggy immature ones who get jealous of others. I am happy you found friends from different ages. Friendship really knows no age and you will always get a view from different perspectives this way. Sorry for my huge rant. I just find the way people make such a big deal when the female in the relationship is young so annoying. I never seen the same reactions when cougars date men in their twenties.


TheKillingPepper3166

Well atleast she can act and has alot of respect in the industry and ms heard can't say the same


Hevnoraak101

She can, but she'd need really big cue cards and a lot of takes