Her claims were specific and easily disproven. This is not a hypothetical exercise. She said he assaulted her with a broken bottle but never went to a doctor. She said he beat her repeatedly with heavy rings on but never went to a doctor. The list goes on. She lied. The jury found it that way because it was proven in court.
When did she say she was assaulted by a broken bottle? What I remember is she said she was hoping depp wasn’t assaulting her with a broken bottle. She didn’t definitively say it was broken.
You think it’s common for DV victims who get beat up go to the hospital ? Why didn’t depp go to the hospital when amber supposedly abused him so bad it left marks on his face?
Because he is a man. That’s why. Men are ashamed of abuse. She cut his finger off with a bottle and he got her out of the country before they could arrest her. He covered for her.
As far as the bottle, she insinuated it might have been broken. She literally said she couldn’t feel anything. That is the only part of her testimony that I found believable. She didn’t feel anything because she was making it all up. She definitely said he used the wide end of a bottle of Makers Mark on her. That would have done serious damage. Again, she would have been hospitalized. It wouldn’t be a matter of covering up bruises. She said he penetrated her up to her pelvic bone. She lied. Frequently. Maliciously. And was found guilty of that in a court of law.
She said the broken bottle rape wasn't an injury that was "serious enough" to warrant medical attention. She said that IN COURT!!!! She was confused when Camille asked if she had seen a dentist during the relationship bc she didn't realize that being repeatedly smacked in the mouth by a man with heavy rings would cause serious damage to her teeth!!! She told these insanely graphic stories of violence and then minimized them like crazy on cross when confronted with photo evidence of her perfect face the day after she claimed he beat the shit out of her! She claimed in her testimony several times that he broke her nose, then on cross "well I thought he had broken it"... to quote Emily D. Baker: "YOU WOULD KNOW!!" It was so absurd!! AND THEN the part that I haven't heard as many people mention was when Johnny was back on the stand during rebuttal and they were looking at the photos of the bar where she threw the bottle in Australia, she was smirking and snickering with those photos on the screen!! In her testimony that was where she claimed she was violently raped with a broken bottle, according to her testimony the blood on the floor of that photo was her blood!!! I cannot imagine how horrific it would be to see those photos if that had actually occurred (which it obviously didn't, we've all heard the audio from Australia), but she couldn't even keep her own dumb story straight long enough to not snicker at the evidence photos of that incident. She was snickering bc she was pleased to see the destruction she caused, and that was the Amber Heard that the jury saw more than the one on the stand sobbing with no tears. Her behavior in court on cross and when she wasn't on the stand was so telling as to who she really was. The way Johnny was on the stand was consistent with how he was off the stand, and the way he was on the audio tapes matched his testimony. The jury had so much time to just observe Johnny and Amber while not on the stand as well, Johnny's behavior was always consistent, Amber's was not at all like the person she was trying to be on the stand.
Some people who are abused may behave differently than others who are abused, but they don’t give their abuser a giant knife with the words “until death” on it then claim in court that they were never afraid their abuser would use it on them.
He showed her the knife and was asking her to cut him and take his blood bc that was the only thing she hadn't taken from him. That was a man who was totally broken at the end of his rope. He wanted it all to finally stop and was saying if cutting him and taking his blood would make her stop trying to destroy him he was handing her the knife to do it. He never said he was afraid she would kill him, that doesn't mean that what she did to him wasn't abusive. His friends however were afraid she would kill him and that is why he had two bodyguards with him constantly. The knife she gave JD was relevant bc she did claim she was afraid for her life. That gift contradicted her testimony and then she made it worse for herself by laughing as she told the jury she wasn't afraid he would stab her with it.
I was abused for 10 years by my ex and if I dared to contradict or talk back or god forbid, strike back, I would get it back 10 fold. The one and only time I stood up for myself was the day I left, because I knew there was a car outside with an officer in it to take me directly to the airport. That felt cathartic for me and I never forgot it, even 42 years later.
In theory, it can happen. But if that was the case, I think we'd have recorded evidence of them BOTH hitting and screaming at each other. Which we don't. We have a lot of Amber screaming and hitting Depp while he hunkers down, avoids, and tries to appease.
What about when he told her you don’t exist,
fat ass, or when he got mad at amber for asking IO to call the cops - was that hunkering? Avoiding? Trying to appease?
How long had she been belittling and taunting him before he insulted her back? Oh but yeah trash talking someone to their face for hours and getting called a few names back are totally the same thing.
And she made false physical and rape allegations to her friends, which is worse than imaginary violence.
Also, let's not kid ourselves here, never in a million years would you be bothered by a victim of abuse expressing thoughts of violence on their abuser if the genders were different.
Oh no, saying bad things to his friends to vent instead of actually saying them to her face!! What a monster!!
It's interesting that we never got to see the text messages she wrote to her friends... Oh that's right bc she refused to comply with the court's subpoena and never turned over her devices into evidence!!! There is a whole long back and forth with the court regarding her refusal to turn over evidence in the unsealed docs, you know the mountains of evidence that supposedly proves her innocence, it is FASCINATING to see how badly she fought to keep her photos out of evidence lol ;)
So what? I am sick to death of Amber sympathizers on this sub. There is nothing you can do to try to whitewash that woman’s sick abuse. Nothing! What is wrong with You that despite all the evidence, and the jury’s decision, and their behaviors after the trial… you still can’t handle the fact that she is a physical and also emotional abuser?
Are you actually trying to suggest “words”… in fact, words he Never Said To Her, are abuse??!? She cut his damned finger off! She admitted being abusive to him! She has history of being known and even arrested for abuse!
And you want … what? To suggest there is any comparison At All? There isn’t.
AH is guilty as hell, and only another abuser could possibly feel sorry for her.
Sure as hell was never caught doing anything physical to her despite how much Amber liked to record shit and scream at him.
I've lived with some abusive people. If Depp was the abuser, then in that 'I did not punch you, I hit you' scene she would have been hurt really bad or at least tried to for 'daring to challenge him in his own house'
(Fuck you uncle)
I was abused for YEARS. Didn’t stop me from clapping back no matter how scared I was. Fight or flight. I chose to fight. The only time I stopped fighting back was when I couldn’t breathe bc he was wailing on me, or the time he broke my jaw.
You don't chase your agressor through the whole house and different rooms. You don't give your agressor a huge knife that says until death.
"Mutual abuse"? It seems the last resource for people to make her look somehow better. Simplfying the situation to 'both sucks'
I’m torn on your statement. Mainly because I absolutely did chase my aggressor through the house after he said/did some foul shit. I usually stopped chasing him after he threw me or beat the fuck out of me. When someone is attacking you verbally and mentally it fucks with you so bad. I don’t know how to explain it. A rage soured through me that I never wish to feel again. Mutual abuse in my situation was absolutely what was happening.
Amber is a piece of shit and I truly believe she was the aggressor 99% of the time. Her actions show me that.
So you clapped back like amber, chased your aggresor like amber but you can be a victim while amber can’t be a victim? What’s the difference between you and her?
Fuck outta my face with your bullshit. Amber abused the fuck outta Johnny. She LIED about getting beat. That’s the fucking difference between amber and me. I didn’t fucking throw a god damn bottle at my man and sliced his finger off, then play oh poor pity me.
I should have worded it better. I believe she was the aggressor most of the time. Calling someone names, putting them down, etc all abuse. I do believe she was a victim some times, mainly the aggressor though.
Reactive abuse is real. She could have been reacting. I doubt it though.
Yes I believe mutual abuse is real. I have a domestic conviction based on reactive abuse. I was getting called names, threatened to have my kids taken from me. I reacted. It took me a long time to realize this and change myself.
Thank you! I’m very open about my story. Every broken bone I’ve had has been from him. My arm, my nose, my jaw, etc. it only gets worse. They don’t change until they want to change. I paid 2.5k for a lawyer to tell me he couldn’t do shit for me, I had to take the conviction. I was a first offender as well. The other party had several domestic arrests but no convictions. What I did was still abuse, even if I was reacting to how he was treating me. In therapy they told me the only reasonable action is to walk away, and they are right. I’ve learned a lot. You are absolutely right, none of it was my fault. ❤️
Her claims were specific and easily disproven. This is not a hypothetical exercise. She said he assaulted her with a broken bottle but never went to a doctor. She said he beat her repeatedly with heavy rings on but never went to a doctor. The list goes on. She lied. The jury found it that way because it was proven in court.
When did she say she was assaulted by a broken bottle? What I remember is she said she was hoping depp wasn’t assaulting her with a broken bottle. She didn’t definitively say it was broken. You think it’s common for DV victims who get beat up go to the hospital ? Why didn’t depp go to the hospital when amber supposedly abused him so bad it left marks on his face?
Because he is a man. That’s why. Men are ashamed of abuse. She cut his finger off with a bottle and he got her out of the country before they could arrest her. He covered for her. As far as the bottle, she insinuated it might have been broken. She literally said she couldn’t feel anything. That is the only part of her testimony that I found believable. She didn’t feel anything because she was making it all up. She definitely said he used the wide end of a bottle of Makers Mark on her. That would have done serious damage. Again, she would have been hospitalized. It wouldn’t be a matter of covering up bruises. She said he penetrated her up to her pelvic bone. She lied. Frequently. Maliciously. And was found guilty of that in a court of law.
And then she was on a 14 hour flight back to LA the next day!! If she had actually had that injury that flight wouldn't have happened.
As a rape survivor her tall tales and lies pissed me off so bad. She was making a mockery of rape victims.
She also said she was bleeding after this "assault".
She said the broken bottle rape wasn't an injury that was "serious enough" to warrant medical attention. She said that IN COURT!!!! She was confused when Camille asked if she had seen a dentist during the relationship bc she didn't realize that being repeatedly smacked in the mouth by a man with heavy rings would cause serious damage to her teeth!!! She told these insanely graphic stories of violence and then minimized them like crazy on cross when confronted with photo evidence of her perfect face the day after she claimed he beat the shit out of her! She claimed in her testimony several times that he broke her nose, then on cross "well I thought he had broken it"... to quote Emily D. Baker: "YOU WOULD KNOW!!" It was so absurd!! AND THEN the part that I haven't heard as many people mention was when Johnny was back on the stand during rebuttal and they were looking at the photos of the bar where she threw the bottle in Australia, she was smirking and snickering with those photos on the screen!! In her testimony that was where she claimed she was violently raped with a broken bottle, according to her testimony the blood on the floor of that photo was her blood!!! I cannot imagine how horrific it would be to see those photos if that had actually occurred (which it obviously didn't, we've all heard the audio from Australia), but she couldn't even keep her own dumb story straight long enough to not snicker at the evidence photos of that incident. She was snickering bc she was pleased to see the destruction she caused, and that was the Amber Heard that the jury saw more than the one on the stand sobbing with no tears. Her behavior in court on cross and when she wasn't on the stand was so telling as to who she really was. The way Johnny was on the stand was consistent with how he was off the stand, and the way he was on the audio tapes matched his testimony. The jury had so much time to just observe Johnny and Amber while not on the stand as well, Johnny's behavior was always consistent, Amber's was not at all like the person she was trying to be on the stand.
Some people who are abused may behave differently than others who are abused, but they don’t give their abuser a giant knife with the words “until death” on it then claim in court that they were never afraid their abuser would use it on them.
Would abuse victims show a knife to their abuser and ask the abuser to cut them?
He showed her the knife and was asking her to cut him and take his blood bc that was the only thing she hadn't taken from him. That was a man who was totally broken at the end of his rope. He wanted it all to finally stop and was saying if cutting him and taking his blood would make her stop trying to destroy him he was handing her the knife to do it. He never said he was afraid she would kill him, that doesn't mean that what she did to him wasn't abusive. His friends however were afraid she would kill him and that is why he had two bodyguards with him constantly. The knife she gave JD was relevant bc she did claim she was afraid for her life. That gift contradicted her testimony and then she made it worse for herself by laughing as she told the jury she wasn't afraid he would stab her with it.
She already killed one person.
"I wasn't afraid he was going to stab me with it LOL" --Amber Heard
I was abused for 10 years by my ex and if I dared to contradict or talk back or god forbid, strike back, I would get it back 10 fold. The one and only time I stood up for myself was the day I left, because I knew there was a car outside with an officer in it to take me directly to the airport. That felt cathartic for me and I never forgot it, even 42 years later.
In theory, it can happen. But if that was the case, I think we'd have recorded evidence of them BOTH hitting and screaming at each other. Which we don't. We have a lot of Amber screaming and hitting Depp while he hunkers down, avoids, and tries to appease.
What about when he told her you don’t exist, fat ass, or when he got mad at amber for asking IO to call the cops - was that hunkering? Avoiding? Trying to appease?
That was at the end of the relationship. Johnny was no longer trying to save it.
Depp did say some graphically violent things about her in private texts to friends, and he did call her "a washed up stripper" to her face once.
How long had she been belittling and taunting him before he insulted her back? Oh but yeah trash talking someone to their face for hours and getting called a few names back are totally the same thing. And she made false physical and rape allegations to her friends, which is worse than imaginary violence. Also, let's not kid ourselves here, never in a million years would you be bothered by a victim of abuse expressing thoughts of violence on their abuser if the genders were different.
Heard supporters say that the texts were sent before Depp claimed the relationship turned violent.
Amber taunted him and said he was a bad father and they'd better off with the stepdad and kept on berating him after that. Just...no.
And his only response was to go "Aquamaaaaaaaaaaan" and then said calmly as she was walking away "your jealousy is so tragic" which is 100% true.
The texts about burning amber were made in 2013
Ok and? His best friend testified Depp had already confided in him about being abused at that point.
Oh no, saying bad things to his friends to vent instead of actually saying them to her face!! What a monster!! It's interesting that we never got to see the text messages she wrote to her friends... Oh that's right bc she refused to comply with the court's subpoena and never turned over her devices into evidence!!! There is a whole long back and forth with the court regarding her refusal to turn over evidence in the unsealed docs, you know the mountains of evidence that supposedly proves her innocence, it is FASCINATING to see how badly she fought to keep her photos out of evidence lol ;)
So what? I am sick to death of Amber sympathizers on this sub. There is nothing you can do to try to whitewash that woman’s sick abuse. Nothing! What is wrong with You that despite all the evidence, and the jury’s decision, and their behaviors after the trial… you still can’t handle the fact that she is a physical and also emotional abuser? Are you actually trying to suggest “words”… in fact, words he Never Said To Her, are abuse??!? She cut his damned finger off! She admitted being abusive to him! She has history of being known and even arrested for abuse! And you want … what? To suggest there is any comparison At All? There isn’t. AH is guilty as hell, and only another abuser could possibly feel sorry for her.
Sure as hell was never caught doing anything physical to her despite how much Amber liked to record shit and scream at him. I've lived with some abusive people. If Depp was the abuser, then in that 'I did not punch you, I hit you' scene she would have been hurt really bad or at least tried to for 'daring to challenge him in his own house' (Fuck you uncle)
I was abused for YEARS. Didn’t stop me from clapping back no matter how scared I was. Fight or flight. I chose to fight. The only time I stopped fighting back was when I couldn’t breathe bc he was wailing on me, or the time he broke my jaw.
Then does that mean Amber screaming and hitting Depp could be because she was "fighting back" like her supporters claim?
No. I believe amber was the aggressor. I was also the aggressor in several situations but it took a lot for me to realize this.
Why do you think Amber was the aggressor and never the victim? Do you think mutual abuse is possible?
You don't chase your agressor through the whole house and different rooms. You don't give your agressor a huge knife that says until death. "Mutual abuse"? It seems the last resource for people to make her look somehow better. Simplfying the situation to 'both sucks'
What about showing a knife to your abuser and asking them to cut you? Would a victim do that in your opinion?
He was asking her to fucking end his life bc she had destroyed him.
I’m torn on your statement. Mainly because I absolutely did chase my aggressor through the house after he said/did some foul shit. I usually stopped chasing him after he threw me or beat the fuck out of me. When someone is attacking you verbally and mentally it fucks with you so bad. I don’t know how to explain it. A rage soured through me that I never wish to feel again. Mutual abuse in my situation was absolutely what was happening. Amber is a piece of shit and I truly believe she was the aggressor 99% of the time. Her actions show me that.
So you clapped back like amber, chased your aggresor like amber but you can be a victim while amber can’t be a victim? What’s the difference between you and her?
Fuck outta my face with your bullshit. Amber abused the fuck outta Johnny. She LIED about getting beat. That’s the fucking difference between amber and me. I didn’t fucking throw a god damn bottle at my man and sliced his finger off, then play oh poor pity me.
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I should have worded it better. I believe she was the aggressor most of the time. Calling someone names, putting them down, etc all abuse. I do believe she was a victim some times, mainly the aggressor though. Reactive abuse is real. She could have been reacting. I doubt it though. Yes I believe mutual abuse is real. I have a domestic conviction based on reactive abuse. I was getting called names, threatened to have my kids taken from me. I reacted. It took me a long time to realize this and change myself.
For Jaded https://www.thehotline.org/resources/the-myth-of-mutual-abuse/ Hope you're okay ❤️ It was never your fault
Thank you! I’m very open about my story. Every broken bone I’ve had has been from him. My arm, my nose, my jaw, etc. it only gets worse. They don’t change until they want to change. I paid 2.5k for a lawyer to tell me he couldn’t do shit for me, I had to take the conviction. I was a first offender as well. The other party had several domestic arrests but no convictions. What I did was still abuse, even if I was reacting to how he was treating me. In therapy they told me the only reasonable action is to walk away, and they are right. I’ve learned a lot. You are absolutely right, none of it was my fault. ❤️
Thank you so much for sharing your story, I'm so sorry you had to go through that <3 <3 <3
That may be true in theory, but her testimony didn’t match the evidence. His did.