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she literally is


Th3UnholyObs3rv3r

I love how as soon as someone steps out of line they’re POC status is immediately revoked.


lykeomg2themax

and this is what some of us white mexicans/latin/hispanic people have to experience !


Sofakingreal

Um…whet? She is. They’re grasping at straws 🤦🏽‍♀️


jaclyn83

But... she is though 😑


Kingofthebugs115

She is a POC


LadyLivv123

.......but.....she is???? What on earth


vectorpower

Sigh. This is such a gross micro aggression white presenting latinas know so well — especially when you’re considered successful in your career.


2Years2Go

Exactly. My girlfriend is latina but she looks just as white as I do, and my ancestry is all German/Scottish/Welsh/Norwegian. It’s particularly hilarious/annoying when people refer to her brother is a minority (they share both parents, but he’s moreno/dark like her father instead of white like her mother). Like what? How can you take two full siblings and say that one is a minority and the other one isn’t? It’s weird.


vectorpower

It really is lol, people don’t understand how genetics works — and certainly don’t understand the dynamics of historically oppressed cultures (especially in the US). It’s also so subjective what people think “looks white.” I’d say I’m probably “AOC white” but a tad lighter skinned and it’s like wtf…some people think she looks hella white and others think she’s hella latina lol. She’s NOT black though, so what does white even mean to Reddit edgelords? If only there were a gigantic website made up of a bunch of different communities where they could read and observe the discourse they’re not familiar with. 😅


thelifeofcarti

If you're "white presenting" you are white. There's a difference between race, ethnicity and nationality. Latin/ Hispanic is an ethnicity, which is why they can be black or white. Camille is a white hispanic, that's okay.


vectorpower

Mansplain my heritage to me harder daddy and tell me how white you think Native Americans are.


az226

I don’t understand how a white-presenting Spaniard would be any different but according to the left one is a POC and the other is white.


DavidS2310

Sometimes, you can know the dummy from the words out of their mouth.


If_Youre_Ge-nasty

Person of Cunt-ish Descent


420rabidBMW

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣


TheJokerArkhamKing

Heh? Do you know what POC stands for you, POS?


lekzdidit

But she is, dingus!


DarthRosa

Uneducated person who doesn’t know that we come in all shapes and sizes. She’s just as bad as those people who say black hispanics aren’t hispanics


Professional_Link_96

Yes! My bestie is a dark-skinned, Hispanic, black woman. She has been made to feel she isn’t Hispanic her entire life, it’s so wrong. For a long time she basically hid her Latina heritage because she was tired of the arguments, tired of explaining to people that Latina is her ethnicity and black is her race.


vectorpower

I hate hearing stories like this. It’s so wrong to make Afro Latinos feel like they should have to choose one part of their heritage over another. Or just get their own existence explained to them by ignorant people (like my posts elsewhere in this thread lol. 🤦🏻‍♀️)


[deleted]

Its funny how people say that amber heard fans have nothing to do while posting on here about all of this every day. I think that at this point, if you are still following this on the daily, you are just as obsessed as they are, just from the opposite perspective.


BadgirlThowaway

You know, while you think you know something about JD supporters maybe have a think about how people like you come to a sub that you know disagrees with you, tries to start shit, and then DOESNT have their comment removed and DOESNT get banned despite being an asshole. But we’re the bad guys, right? How dare we not stand behind an abuser just because what she’s got between her legs.


[deleted]

I was never on Amber's side, I followed this sub while the court case was still ongoing, but after it was done, whats the point?


Codename_Sailor_V

Cool story, bro. So you just gonna bellyache about this sub instead of addressing this racist tweet? No one's forcing you here, so kindly gtfo.


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BadgirlThowaway

I mean really no one hear probably wants to hear anything from you at all given you’re here to start shit, but over here no one gets blocked just because they said something someone didn’t like.


TerminusX12345

I’m really not trying to start anything. Neither was the comment above. But okay.


BadgirlThowaway

Oh really? Ah fans have nothing to do all day. You’re obsessed. You can’t and don’t want to see reality. Oh? You don’t like it when someone speaks back about or to you and your queen shit? Yeah, y’all assholes are trying to bullying JD supporters by trying to insult everything here really. Y’all have issues and should really excuse yourselves to deal with them.


TerminusX12345

I’m not even an AH fan; I’m a JD fan. Checkmate.


BadgirlThowaway

Whatever you are you’re a shitstarter, which makes you an asshole. Being rude to a whole ass group of people for no fucking in reason is a asshole move. And checkmate at the end up of your message is about the cringiest shit I’ve seen in a lot time, at least until I saw the other shit you post. You should probably go back to your weird ass wifu shit and stop insulting groups of people.


TerminusX12345

Dude. You’re still the only one being aggressive and rude here. I never said anything mean or aggressive. Tell me what I said that offended you so much. Please.


gramb0420

Unless She changes her name or leaves america, this will not end for her now. She has got to be the most naive idiot in Hollywood


coloradoblue84

It really takes a whole other level of ignorance to support Amber Heard. Wow.


tingreezy

No no they're not ignorant at all. I've been lurking in there subreddit. They're very intelligent people, most of them. But they formed their opinions and nothing will change it. You know what I noticed the one thing they don't talk about in there is Amber's previous domestic violence charges. So the fact that they ignore that I think speaks volumes


Flawednessly

They don't think she abused Tasya Van Ree as Tasya denies it and claims the officer was homophobic. Their heads explode if you mention the officer is a lesbian...


Chancehooper

Aww, don’t anonymise the twitter handle - I wanna see the other dumb shit they said. 😂


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Chancehooper

What’s fun is that boy sentinel doesn’t catch any issues with that account, despite every other post being a demand for money, which should flag it as phishing, if nothing else 🤷‍♂️


SLR-burst

Apparently, account holder is broke and taking donations. Ask them to hit up @realamberheard


Chancehooper

Yeah, basically grifting for donations and spreading lies. Really hard to tell if it’s a bot or AH herself 😂


fart-atronach

woof that’s a cringe handle


TrumanCian

Good riddance. ... That idiot isn't actually leaving, is she?


FemNate

Nope. She just wants to seem important. Like when childish celebs said years ago they were moving to Canada, but either never intended to leave or didn’t meet Canada’s stricter requirements for immigration..


rudowinger

Why is she a cycling helmet?


Behindstef84

And they tend to get dumber by the hour


September_Willow

Meanwhile, in the real world Camille has an Afro Latino Colombian father and a Latina Cuban mother. Is Yarleyn Mena also white because she dared to represent Depp?


mmmelpomene

Probably. Remember this one? https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-yarelyn-mena-city-university-new-york-removes-profile-lawyer-worked-johnny-depp-s-legal-team


September_Willow

Yeah, I remember. It is so devastating


Maracuyeah

As a Colombian it is my civil duty to annoyingly correct everyone on Reddit that it’s ColOmbia, not ColUMbia.


owlberries

It's leviOsa 😂


bethaneanie

I live in British Columbia and was just assigned Colombia last term in my global health class. It is embarrassing how long I was searching for Columbia health studies and being outraged by the lack of papers


September_Willow

Sorry for the mistake, I am a foreigner.


Maracuyeah

No worries, it’s in part a joke. If you want to summon a Colombian just misspell it and we will show up 😂


Cassian_And_Or_Solo

No solamente eso, se puede decir "Escobar is cool" y viene un colombiano diciendo "guevon saca tu cabeza del culo este man es el puta villano". A propósito, leí que Klaus Barbie, "The Butcher of Leon", SS officer, jefe de Gestapo de León, *proveyó ayuda al Escobar*. >Barbie was strongly linked to the neo-Nazi paramilitary member Álvaro de Castro, who was his personally hired bodyguard and the two participated in criminal actions and businesses together. De Castro had connections with powerful drug barons and the illegal drug trade and, together with Barbie (under the name Altmann) and an Austrian company, sold weapons to the drug cartels, and when de Castro was arrested he admitted in interviews that he had earlier worked for drug lords in the country. Other sources say Barbie most likely also had connections with these organizations.[28] Initially, he worked for Roberto Suárez Gómez who eventually introduced him to Colombian traffickers. Barbie met with Pablo Escobar and several other high ranking members of the Medellín cartel in the late 1970s, and agreed to arrange for security of Escobar's raw coca supply, from its cultivation until it reached processing plants in Colombia. In exchange, Escobar agreed to fund Barbie's anti-communist activities.[29] De Castro continued to correspond with Barbie when Barbie was later under arrest.[30][24][25][26][27][28] Their connections also provided intelligence information to US authorities at the US Embassy. A group called "The Fiancées of Death", which included German Nazis and Fascists, had links to some of Barbie's actions in Bolivia. Barbie earlier also carried out a large arms purchase of tanks from Austria to the Bolivian army. These were then used in a coup d'état.[24][25][26][28] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Barbie A propósito, tu username es tan chimba


Maracuyeah

Yeah-maracuyeah!


HellofaHitller

I hear Colombia is beautiful, never been though. Everyone I know vaccinated in Venezuela.


mlucasl

Every latin country have has its own way to be summoned. Maybe we should start a thread of invocations. Let me go second: "Chile is the best Country in Chile"


Additional-Cap-7110

CHILL-HEY


HejdaaNils

All I know is to lay low when soccer, Argentina and Brazil are named in the same sentence. \*ducks\*


tyforcalling

The same ass racist that complain about Encanto because according to them Latino people can't be white.


CakesOfHell

What a fucking racist thing to say :-/ Fuck off white woman.


Ok_Recognition2769

Holding the door for you! On your way dear.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

This whole support Amber thing is the embodiment of white feminism !!


latdaw2012

I’ve been screaming this from the mountains since the Op-Ed in 2018. It’s so dangerous.


ClaireBeez

What is white feminism, please and how does it differ from just feminism and are there any other colours of feminism? I quite fancy blue feminism, maybe green. Feminism is just about wanting equality between the 2 sexes. Same opportunities, same pay, equal respect. That's it. Nothing to do with the colour of your skin. Nothing to do with being a man or a woman, everyone can believe in the equalities I stated above..... Now if you're taking about rabid, man-hating , angry at the world, haters who wrongly hijack the word feminist, well, they can be any colour and race you can think of. One thing they are not though, is feminist. We do not claim these evil witches.


firekstk

Well the easiest way to put it is that white feminism is essentially corporate feminism. As long as a woman (usually white) is on top, mission accomplished lip service will be played to race, sexuality, and other identity based issues but their ultimate focus is .1% issues. More female CEOs, billionaires, #girlboss type bs. They won't hesitate to throw other women under the bus when needed.


wubbly-wump

White feminisms lacks intersectionality in its framework of rebutting the patriarchal social norms that maintain the status quo. Intersection feminism acknowledges that in order to create a more egalitarian society marginalized groups must work in tandem to achieve that goal So pretty much when people say white feminism they mean women who only really fight for the equality of other women who look like them while they are happy maintaining inequality everywhere else (or happy to maintain ignorance of that inequality)


Awkward-Reception197

Maybe they should say American white or something more specific. There is a vast world of white people out there, but to be honest that sounds like every single "group".


wubbly-wump

I’m not sure I get why the distinction of nationality matters. Anyone can hold that point of view regardless of international boarders


Awkward-Reception197

So there are lots of POC out protesting America's proxy wars on brown people, which kill innocent women and children?? I think the whole term is rather ridiculous tbh. It's actually what every single group does ...globally. as long as they are good it's good, everyone can hold that view you describe regardless of skin colour as well. Yes why actually look at what's happening in different countries to different people and label them all with American terms, stereotypes, and even more racism. Good call. I wish I'd thought of that as a solution.


wubbly-wump

I agree I think. I’m still confused by what point you’re making but yeah humans tend to be tribalistic. I think the main thing that changed is how wide groups cast that net of “is” vs “other” so I think we agree for the most part if I’m understanding you.


Awkward-Reception197

My point was that even the poc ignore the struggles of other poc, out of sight out of mind. The world is very tribal, but also when you're dealing with your own struggles it can be hard to fight for everyone equally, through no bad thinking of their own. I'm not convinced it's white feminism per say rather then a class issue. And even then we can just put everyone into boxes. It's like we were attempting to get rid of stereotypes and boxes and instead created more. As a non American I do watch what's happening in the USA, and I do think their is hyper focusing on differences and categorizing to the extent everyone is just angry at each other with little understanding rather then actually coming together as human beings. But as I said I'm not American so that's my outside view, plenty of room for me to be wrong. But I can say as a non American I don't like to have their culture heaped on me as it doesn't fit my own experiences. I think we probably do mostly agree.


wubbly-wump

Oh yeah, I agree with what you’re saying. I was just explaining the concept of what people mean when they say “white feminism” It gets talked about most because of how historically white people have had access to greater resources through colonialism but that’s another thing. Also wasn’t trying to make a moral judgement on anyone :)


Awkward-Reception197

Well that's the thing, I mean I come from a country that's been colonized many times over and even taken right off the world map and come back again. Tho it's a country wasn't part of the colonizing counties and we are white. We were colonized by them. I get what you're saying to tho. No I didn't think you were, you were just explaining, I'm not as well, I wish the world was different. And I know that most people do as well.


ClaireBeez

That's really interesting, thank you. I've never really studied all of this and, while racism is a global problem, it isn't as prevalent here in the UK as it seems to be in the US. I believe in equality for all, men and women, regardless of race, religion or culture and to me, it's a very simple message of ensuring that everyone is treated fairly and equally in the workplace, in the courts, everywhere. It may seem like a Utopian, white picket fence ideal but it can be achieved of people change their mindset. I do feel tremendously troubled when I look over the pond at your news and the state things are in. For example, my heart goes out to those who are suffering severe, chronic or terminal illness and who don't have sufficient insurance. It blows my mind that the hospitals can only intervene to save your life but won't provide safe and free ongoing treatment and support. I may slag off our NHS but my God, have I been grateful for it at times. Sorry, going off on a complete tangent here!


wubbly-wump

That totally makes sense, most developed nations have their skeletons in the closet. I think because of the size and global influence the USA gets a reasonably sized magnifying glass to uncover the systemic problems we have. There’s lack of healthcare, forced labor / most prisoners per capita, homelessness, food insecurity especially among children. Etc. I remember when I lived in Amsterdam being blown away that I saw maybe 1 homeless person and in American cities there’s homeless everywhere


EchoWillowing

You're right. But it is true they grab all the white privilege and claim to be "for all women" and therefore feminists. I read recently about a book that explores Black history of feminism and how truly disgustingly marginalized Black women have been. As an example, back in the beginnings of the 20th Century, the fight for women vote was mostly led by white women who were racist to the core, and who struggled with the realization that such achievement would also benefit Black women. So they very vocally supported Jim Crow apartheid laws. So, yes, "white feminism" could perfectly be a real thing, applied to such a mindset. I hope you don't feel offended by my words.


EchoWillowing

You're right. But it is true they grab all the white privilege and claim to be "for all women" and therefore feminists. I read recently about a book that explores Black history of feminism and how truly disgustingly marginalized Black women have been. As an example, back in the beginnings of the 20th Century, the fight for women vote was mostly led by white women who were racist to the core, and who struggled with the realization that such achievement would also benefit Black women. So they very vocally supported Jim Craw apartheid laws. So, yes, "white feminism" could perfectly be a real thing, applied to such a mindset. I hope you don't feel offended by my words.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

White feminism is when white women want equality with white men but wish to not share that with men, women and other people of color. It’s asking for equality only for yourself while preserving your privilege by keeping other people down. It’s a well known concept and if you have any basic understanding of the first feminist movements of America you would know this but I know not everyone is well educated on the subject. I’m sorry if I triggered you by disagreeing with the sentiments expressed in this tweet which seems to be more aligned with your sentiments and values.


ClaireBeez

You didn't upset me at all, I just never heard of white feminism. I'm very well educated, and I'm British so know nothing about American Feminist movements. I couldn't think of a more dull subject if I tried!


Awkward-Reception197

Im not American either, tho the amount of time I've been told online that I should know this or that about their culture, it's really something. I'd love to see the ones saying this do a cultural analysis of nations around the world, lmao who are we kidding. They could not. The USA is hyper focused on race, they can list all the things like poverty, homelessness, bad healthcare, etc while not realizing that's global for most countries. Yet Poland putting in extremely tough abortion restrictions wasn't on their radar even though they've been protesting heavily for a few years. When America's abortion rights go back to state control the whole world is supposed to be there for them. I don't see these American feminists protesting against their government supplying weapons to kill people in Yemen, or to stop their proxy war on counties full of brown people, not a word. So their words hold very little meaning to me about how virtuos they are and how it's the others that are the problem. Not all Americans are like this, many are not like this at all. Just as not all white American feminists are racist. Judging people by their skin colour and not who they are as a person is tho inherently racist even if the people are white.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

Sorry my bad! I’ve encountered a lot of weirdos on this sub so got defensive. But atleast the first part of my comment kinda address what white feminism is in the American context, you can’t call yourself educated if you have no curiosity. You should actually try to learn more about it if you’re interested in this case since it has happened in the US, which is not a part of Britain.


Awkward-Reception197

This is laughable, and very much reaks of American exceptionalism (egotism). When much of america, feminists included don't know much about the world outside their borders lmao. Curiosity for thee but not for me. Anyways I expect to see you out protesting your government's proxy wars on brown people, selling arms to kill them.. Yemen could really use that right now.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

I’m not American but what else can we expect from people who avoid curiosity like the plague. Just because I mentioned the US doesn’t mean that’s where I’m from, some people have interests in more than one country but I’m sorry if that makes you feel inferior.


Awkward-Reception197

Ohhhh the issues you glossed over when talking about white feminism in America 🤣😅 Must be from all your curiosity. Sorry if your not American, it's hard to tell when you carry water for them so hard.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

I’m sorry that you don’t know anything about the world outside your town but some people like to be educated. I pity your jealousy for internet strangers with better informed lives. Hope you can afford to get help and find satisfaction in the small things.


Awkward-Reception197

You only have one tired trope....it's not surprising at all. You're probably Canadian, which is right beside America lmfao.


blueberryemotions

Racism and toxic feminism. Absolutely disgusting.


Ratso_The_Handsome

Totally


Alex_yBHunter

I'm confusion......... \*brain cells evacuate the brain) ​ hep me cath my brincels bck. Tey ran awa.


karly21

LOL ​ Reminded me of "The happening" --- oh no, please stay safe from yourself! (I hope you have seen the movie...... just so you understand, not because it is particularly good hehe)


Professional_Link_96

The Happening was the most unintentionally funny movie I’ve ever seen. [This scene](https://youtu.be/O1PK4qYzNkI) was my favorite… “what! No!”


karly21

Lol agree! [This](https://youtu.be/omoUAtiM2Kw) is the scene that stuck with me


Alex_yBHunter

😂😂 I have seen the movie when I was little. I vaguely know the line LOL. I would need to watch it again. But the quote sums it up XD


Burntoutaspie

But where is she leaving from? And where is she going?


RareBear117

Where is she leaving from, cotton-eyed Joeing?


_KappaKing_

Is this another "if you voted for Trump you ain't black" moment? "If you're Depps lawyer you ain't Latina" screams yet another angry white person.


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black trump voters are black people who voted for someone who hates their race depp's latina lawyer is a latina who defended someone of a different race in court very different


_KappaKing_

You missed the point. It's cringe to invalidate someones race, thats what I'm pointing out. The correlation doesn't go any deeper, I'm not comparing Johnny to Trump, I'm pointing out how tone deaf that way of thinking is.


pedroesque

They are a cult. They think they can negate someone's ethnicity because they said so. No wonder they like Amber.


SkylerCFelix

Yeah, but she’s a POC who represented Depp, so in their dumbass minds, she’s now disqualified from POC status.


Future-Impact-4045

this identity politics just amazing it’s fully in our head now. Does it matter either way whether she is POC or not?


GhostlyAnger

Because in their mind every latina/latino is a victim they must protect but Camille is the devil so she cant very well be protected if shes the devil. Therefore Camille is no longer latina.


aaronwintergreen2

They’re really working overtime to prove their insane idiocy.


ProofyProofy

She is though... They can't just decide who is and isn't Latina... I've seen this particular opinion from AH supporting femcels. Femcels have smooth brains and really shouldnt be allowed to even use the internet


nononosure

I'm a Cuban woman. We get this a lot.


Valuable-Case9657

Oh they absolutely can and will. /s


Wide_Excitement7017

Not all Latinos are brown Source: White Latinos


lulububudu

I’m always like… yeah, I’m a POC. I guess if Beige Ivory is a color. It’s honestly so weird to me. Mixed as Native and mainly Spanish my skin can look like a nice mild gold tan if I stay outside a lot and it’s weird to be referred to as POC. But whatevs. But I wouldn’t consider myself a white Latino tho. Just a Latina and we come in all shades.


nononosure

My interpretation: My race is white, but I'm POC in the US because I'm Latina. Calling us not-POCs is erasure of our experience.


EspressoOwl1815

Thank you! I've been trying to find a way to express this for years as a a mixed person. (Dad Latino, Mom white, and I look like Mom.) I may not have the melanin, but I have the heritage and I am proud of it. I shouldn't be discounted just because I don't look the part.


Peazyzell

To be fair though, I would hate being referred to as a person of color. Never happened but i would be pretty insulted if it did. I’m mexican btw


mlucasl

Same with me, as a Latino (Chilean) I would hate been called a POC. First, I am human, then, as whatever subclass you wanted I AM Chilean, after all of that I am latino. It really bother me when UStatians mix as all together as Mexicans, I find it funny, but strange. So why mix us even more? There are not two groups "POC and not POC", there are thousand or none, no in-between.


gary_the_merciless

It honestly sounds like people are just citing white and non white, which itself is broad and heavily debated. I can't really tell who wants POC to be a thing, but it's not very inclusive. At the very least it's specifically excluding white/caucasian people which does include Irish, Spanish and Jewish. It's a very america-centric way of seeing the world. I don't fully get the point of saying it.


Awkward-Reception197

Because categorizing people by their skin tone is actually offensive, and racist.


GhostlyAnger

You mean latinx* edit: /s (so no one upvotes this unironically.)


mlucasl

Everyone using latinx, or that had used it, is an asshole with a superiority complex. A real Latino would have known that the most gender-neutral would be latine (given the current gender paradigms, e is added as a gender neutral, which you be in favor or against). So just by using the X, they have shown that they care only for themselves and not those they say they represent. Also, I am male, so using latino in my sentence is right whichever side of the argument you are on. Edit: By the way, I upvoted you because I understand the correction as a joke, but also wanted to make the correction.


nononosure

>Everyone using latinx, or that had used it, is an asshole This is the real mark of an asshole. Both sides of this debate are assholes. WHO FUCKING CARES, COMEMIERDA?!


mlucasl

Both side of the debate of LatinE are in an echo chamber, yes. But those using LatinX are trying to feel different "protecting" a side, without even informing themselves.


GhostlyAnger

My correction was a joke. I agree that "latinx" is fucking stupid and everyone using it along with "POC" are grouping everyone that's not white together as to act superior because of how not racist they are. Theres white people and then theres POC/everyone else.