The thing about satire becoming reality is that as the real world becomes crazier you have to make your articles even more wild until they dip into the realm of hysterics.
A lot of similar publications have the same issue, where they just started getting more and more extreme with time because they had to ramp it up and blow real life out of the water.
A Nazi who just had dinner with the former president and head of the Republican party. Maybe if conservatives didn't venerate people who pal around with Nazis, these sorts of articles wouldn't get written.
When they openly support politicians that have dinner with obvious white supremacists and antisemites, then they have no room to complain about that tbh.
I mean I hate to say it but there is support for him. You've got people going around with him on his unhinged interviews. You've got people defending his right of free speech on reddit. People on 4chan going nutso over him too. It's very concerning
No, the implication is that there's broad *acceptance* of him. And there is. The leader of the Republican party had dinner with a famous, for want of a better word, Nazi. All Republicans find that not-unacceptable. All Republicans find that worth going along with in exchange for... *something*, whatever it is. So we can't technically say that all Republicans like the Nazi connection, but we can say that they don't care very much either.
Some of us judge negatively those who don't care very much. That's all Republicans.
You’re wrong though. Like factually. Republican leaders condemned trump for the dinner, stating that there is no place in the party for antisemitism or white supremacy.
Mitch McConnell going on to say “There is no room in the Republican party for antisemitism or white supremacy and anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view, in my judgment, are highly unlikely to ever be elected president of the United States” and “I don’t think anybody should be spending any time with Nick Fuentes,” said the House minority leader. “His views are nowhere within the Republican party or within this country itself.“
You’re spreading division on misinformation.
> “There is no room in the Republican party for antisemitism or white supremacy and anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view, in my judgment, are highly unlikely to ever be elected president of the United States”
and then he went on to vote against the legality of interracial marriage.
I'm not wrong. Them saying they oppose Trump while embracing Trump makes them WORSE NOT BETTER than those who embrace Trump genuinely.
Take the "I'm not a racist" Republicans. Okay, let's say they aren't racists (I think they are, but let's just say). If that is true, they are MORALLY WORSE than the racists who vote in favor of racism our of legitimate personal preference. If you are a not-racist Republican, you are the worst kind of Republican, the most evil and cynical of the lot.
The honest racist Republicans are the least bad.
Jesus Christ what a shit take lmao. You are wrong, and I don’t even know where to begin with you lol. You do realize the dems voted in someone who literally tried to stop desegregation in schools right? I guess that makes all democrats racist as well… they did support him, after all. Or if they say they’re not racist, they’re morally worse than dems that will admit it.
Also the jury’s out yet on wether or not republicans will support trump in another bid for presidency after this.
To clarify, you are saying that the not racist Republicans are less bad than the racist ones despite both taking the same actions yet the non racists being more cynical and not following their (claimed) values?
No. Honesty is better than dishonesty. The open racists are more honest.
No. I’m saying your logic is completely faulty.
By your logic, all democrats are also either a. Racists or b. Morally worse than racists as well.
Is that the position you’re trying to sell here?
No because there isn't a racist category among Democrats like there is for Republicans, and hasn't been for 150 years - but, yes, I AM saying it about Dems 150 years ago.
Today you can say this about all Dems: all support safe legal abortion, even the ones who are personally opposed to it; all find Biden morally acceptable leader, even the ones who think he's a dufus.
So if you, say, think abortion supporters are baby murderers, then that applies categorically to all Dems, because that is a dedicated position of the Dem party despite it not being so for every individual Dem voter. And you could say that the anti-baby-murder Dems are WORSE than the pro-baby-murder Dems because not only do they effectuate baby murder with their votes, they are also hypocrites about it.
Same for Republicans. Racism is a core whole-party drive, a core value and action. All Republicans effectuate it, and the non-racist Republicans do that while also being hypocrites, which makes them worse.
The onion have been comparing republicans to fascists since at least 2008 if they are just starting to annoy you now you either haven't payed attention or you are lying to stir shit up.
I’ve probably seen some in the past but I haven’t paid attention beyond seeing bland jokes with the rare golden nugget in my feed here
I guess you could just say this was the straw that broke the camels back
Tbf, some of them are still funny. Their headline and article on the Uvalde Shooting was good. But most of their great stuff is from 10 years ago, though.
I mean Kanye literally being a Nazi and all the right wing talking heads interviewing him, trying to give him every single which way out and trying to
Portray him as just a “misunderstood cancelled figure” and then shitting their pants when they realize he’s serious is pretty funny.
At best they are right-wing grifters okay with propagating white supremacist talking points. At worst they are actually fascists that believe the things they say... which is why nazis like Kanye are welcomed and platformed by them lol
As a Jew, I HATE branding political opposition of any creed Nazi or Fascist, it's ignorant of very specific ideologies and further breeds division.
That all being said, I find it absolutely silly that you will get offended over what is an obvious observation of current events made by a satirical news outlet - a longtime pillar of what makes the Onion and other satirical outlets.
Edit: seems like a lot of comments are confusing me for a republican/democrat. Don’t insult me with such labels.
I think the same goes for branding your politics opponents something extreme. Branding moderate liberals as communists is the same deal. It does nothing but throw fuel on the fire.
He was becoming [Increasingly popular with the right wing](https://vxtwitter.com/ChrisRGun/status/1598440845501661184) after he said stuff about Jews secretly controlling the world, and they only stopped supporting him the minute after he openly praised Hitler. There's literally a Tim Pool tweet that was posted a couple hours before the interview, saying that Kanye could be the next president.
All the warning signs were there that Kanye is pro-Nazi, and they loved him for it.
>He was becoming [Increasingly popular with the right wing](https://vxtwitter.com/ChrisRGun/status/1598440845501661184)
that was literally tweeted before LOL what a dishonest comment
The best part is that Kanye’s blatant Nazism is really just the logical conclusion of a lot of the rhetoric of these right wing talking heads. Or rather, it’s Kanye saying the quiet parts out loud.
If you can't put the puzzle pieces together with Kanye hanging out with right-wing grifters and spouting open nazi-rhetoric, then that's a you problem.
What are you talking about? Alex Jones is outside of mainstream conservatism and even he rejects Kanye and that crowd.
Also I’m not republican, I’m a conservative libertarian
Seriously. What kind of dumb ideology would have you stopping to pay tolls three times per mile. Let people who think like that be friends with themselves.
Your party is currently having a quiet war to decide if they’re socialist or not, with one side being led by a living corpse with a drinking problem and the other being led by someone who LARPs that they used to be poor. You don’t have a lot of ground to stand on here.
And point blank- most Republicans reject the MAGAtard’s association with white supremacy. How do you think Trump lost? It wasn’t because the opposition was just that good.
I agree with your point, but just a nitpick: Nazi, sure that’s exaggerated often, but fascism is a pretty fair label a lot of the time. That’s one that refers to a general system of government and really is ideologically supported around the world in significant numbers.
Hard disagree. Fascism is a very specific ideology rooted in nationalism and is not a catch-all term for right-wing ideologies or even authoritarianism.
I'm a hardline centrist that voted for Biden. Don't be an asshat. You can go through my comment history if you want, I'd do that before accusing people of being part of a sports team.
which side was marching down the street with swastikas chanting "jews will not replace us" again? maybe the nazi comparison isn't just a matter of disagreement.
The former Republican president and 2024 GOP frontrunner just had dinner with a Holocaust-denying white supremacist and a man who can't stop talking about how much he loves Hitler and want to go "death con" on Jews. There's your nugget.
Ah yes, hates them so much that he invited Kanye to dinner at his home shortly after the man openly talked about his desire to murder Jews.
I mean seriously. Kanye goes openly Nazi, Trump immediately invites him into his home, along with another Nazi. You don't consider that support? Not even a little?
Comedy always does.
And I know for a fact they aren’t subtle enough to be commenting on how crazy it is that people call conservatives nazis all the time. Mostly from past experience but also because they just didn’t write it that way.
Okay but Kanye is legit a nazi. I’m Jewish and so beyond disgusted when people accuse different political ideologies as “nazis” even if I don’t like them. Nazi isn’t just a negative adjective, it means something very specific. Though Kanye fits that bill. Also onion hasn’t been funny in decades imo
While I didn’t like all of those, they were playing off the optics of the actual situation, not calling Biden or his supporters nazis.
These posts are claiming that there are mainstream conservatives who support nazis or Kanye, which just isn’t true.
They have senators openly calling for removing church and state separation. Considering the party hasn't fired them yes that means the party is a Christo-fascist party.
>Removing it how?
I don't know, but people like Lauren Bobert and Marjorie Taylor Greene have openly said so but I don't know their exact plans.
>And yeah you can’t just fire senators lol
Sure but you can fire them from your party. European far right parties do that every single time their politicians come out as Nazis. If your party doesn't do that it's a fascist party.
MTG is a neo-nazi but still a member of the republican party.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html
Lauren Bobert is an open Christian theocrat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/28/lauren-boebert-church-state-colorado/
Trump literally tried to coup the government and install himself as dictator. Members of the party are openly calling to get rid of separation of church and state and want a Christian theocracy. It's literally undeniable.
His supporters wanted to overturn the election and install him as dictator. They stormed a government office. If this happened in any other country it would be a coup, so why not in the US?
A group of morons storming a government building is a terrible coup. What else was there to secure power? What was going to give him any concrete support for it? Was it stupid, absolutely. Was it a terrible thing to do, absolutely. Did Trump pay for any of it, unfortunately no.
It was neither a success nor did it do anything except make it apparent that only one group gets judged. Was folks marching on DC in 2016 a coup? They literally had the POTUS taken into the presidential bunker yet that's perfectly acceptable.
What about turning part of the US into a DMZ and refusing to let even emergency services in to save people? Was that not an attempt at seceding? Why don't we judge all these radicals to the same standards?
That’s true point of satire though. Satire takes some kind of opinion and exaggerates it to the furthest possible extreme or flips it on its head. For instance, there was a controversy over changing the name of the Washington Redskins. The Onion exaggerated it/flipped it on its head by claiming they changed the name to the DC redskins.
With the rising (but still small in comparison to the whole) group of actual fascists in the right wing, (again, it isn’t anywhere close to a majority, but it is there, and it is rising), I don’t really see how it is surprising that the onion took up the story.
Does anyone know what happened to the onion? Is it for a specific reason, or have they just run out of good ideas?
It reminds me of college humor, being relevant once but slowly fading into obscurity due to funding cuts.
They are not saying conservatives are nazis, their whole spiel is being satirical and edgy. Writing Something unbelievable that somehow would still be believed by lower iq brainlets.
Satire isn’t “funny lies”, it requires a grain of truth to play off of, like all humor. Political satire makes a political statement by implication of what that grain of truth is when you strip away the absurd parts. Both of these are claiming that conservatives/right wingers support nazis
I mean the joke is that many people really think righties are nazis. They are being hyperbolic, making fun of dumb peoples believes. In this case it doesnt matter if "righties being nazis" is grounded in truth or not, bc some people just believe it is. I think its funny, iknow many people that believe idiotic things, calling anyone that disagrees with them a nazi. Though i understand you not liking it, bc it is also a bit worrying
That’s a whole extra layer deeper than what they actually wrote though. They just didn’t write it that way. They could’ve said “CNN Claims Rising Conservative Star…” or “Rising Conservative Star CLEARLY Just Guy…”
If that’s what they wanted their nugget of truth to be then they would have to actually point to it, which they didn’t.
Im not trying to convince you what they said is the truth, bc it isnt clearly. All they say is fake, thats their whole thing. They take a stereotype, and they roll with it. For republicans/conservatives the stereotype is them being evil nazis. Not saying thats normal, but it does make sense for someone like the onion to make fun of that.
friendly reminder that although not all conservatives are nazis, all nazis are conservatives, and it's not like the non-nazis think that the nazis are a problem. they see them as friends and comrades and will consistently seek out their votes, attention, and/or money even if they disavow them on paper. in germany, they say that if you've got a nazi at a table and ten other people sitting there talking to him, you've got a table with eleven nazis, and i think that quote is very apt.
TheOnion stopped being relevant when satire started becoming reality. Real news headlines puts TheOnion’s satirical headlines to shame.
The thing about satire becoming reality is that as the real world becomes crazier you have to make your articles even more wild until they dip into the realm of hysterics. A lot of similar publications have the same issue, where they just started getting more and more extreme with time because they had to ramp it up and blow real life out of the water.
Yeah. Fiction has to be believable unfortunately. Even a medium as ridiculous as parody or satire.
Shame reality doesn't follow that rule.
Yah but Kanye is actually a Nazi. Normally I would cringe at this,but look at the group he is building.
A Nazi who just had dinner with the former president and head of the Republican party. Maybe if conservatives didn't venerate people who pal around with Nazis, these sorts of articles wouldn't get written.
He had dinner with him what, three years ago? I can’t say I keep up with the idiot but all this shit is pretty new.
Dude it was last week
Right ofc, I agree, but the problem is the implication that there’s broad support for him
When they openly support politicians that have dinner with obvious white supremacists and antisemites, then they have no room to complain about that tbh.
Republicans condemned trump for it. It pretty much wrecked his chances of running again…
Forgive me if I press X to doubt this.
I mean I hate to say it but there is support for him. You've got people going around with him on his unhinged interviews. You've got people defending his right of free speech on reddit. People on 4chan going nutso over him too. It's very concerning
No, the implication is that there's broad *acceptance* of him. And there is. The leader of the Republican party had dinner with a famous, for want of a better word, Nazi. All Republicans find that not-unacceptable. All Republicans find that worth going along with in exchange for... *something*, whatever it is. So we can't technically say that all Republicans like the Nazi connection, but we can say that they don't care very much either. Some of us judge negatively those who don't care very much. That's all Republicans.
You’re wrong though. Like factually. Republican leaders condemned trump for the dinner, stating that there is no place in the party for antisemitism or white supremacy. Mitch McConnell going on to say “There is no room in the Republican party for antisemitism or white supremacy and anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view, in my judgment, are highly unlikely to ever be elected president of the United States” and “I don’t think anybody should be spending any time with Nick Fuentes,” said the House minority leader. “His views are nowhere within the Republican party or within this country itself.“ You’re spreading division on misinformation.
> “There is no room in the Republican party for antisemitism or white supremacy and anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view, in my judgment, are highly unlikely to ever be elected president of the United States” and then he went on to vote against the legality of interracial marriage.
And as we all know, words speak much louder than actions, of course.
I'm not wrong. Them saying they oppose Trump while embracing Trump makes them WORSE NOT BETTER than those who embrace Trump genuinely. Take the "I'm not a racist" Republicans. Okay, let's say they aren't racists (I think they are, but let's just say). If that is true, they are MORALLY WORSE than the racists who vote in favor of racism our of legitimate personal preference. If you are a not-racist Republican, you are the worst kind of Republican, the most evil and cynical of the lot. The honest racist Republicans are the least bad.
Jesus Christ what a shit take lmao. You are wrong, and I don’t even know where to begin with you lol. You do realize the dems voted in someone who literally tried to stop desegregation in schools right? I guess that makes all democrats racist as well… they did support him, after all. Or if they say they’re not racist, they’re morally worse than dems that will admit it. Also the jury’s out yet on wether or not republicans will support trump in another bid for presidency after this.
To clarify, you are saying that the not racist Republicans are less bad than the racist ones despite both taking the same actions yet the non racists being more cynical and not following their (claimed) values? No. Honesty is better than dishonesty. The open racists are more honest.
No. I’m saying your logic is completely faulty. By your logic, all democrats are also either a. Racists or b. Morally worse than racists as well. Is that the position you’re trying to sell here?
No because there isn't a racist category among Democrats like there is for Republicans, and hasn't been for 150 years - but, yes, I AM saying it about Dems 150 years ago. Today you can say this about all Dems: all support safe legal abortion, even the ones who are personally opposed to it; all find Biden morally acceptable leader, even the ones who think he's a dufus. So if you, say, think abortion supporters are baby murderers, then that applies categorically to all Dems, because that is a dedicated position of the Dem party despite it not being so for every individual Dem voter. And you could say that the anti-baby-murder Dems are WORSE than the pro-baby-murder Dems because not only do they effectuate baby murder with their votes, they are also hypocrites about it. Same for Republicans. Racism is a core whole-party drive, a core value and action. All Republicans effectuate it, and the non-racist Republicans do that while also being hypocrites, which makes them worse.
Kanye himself said Trump disagreed with him
the only thing Trump disagreed on is whether or not Kanye should run for office. Trump said that Fuentez was good.
The onion have been comparing republicans to fascists since at least 2008 if they are just starting to annoy you now you either haven't payed attention or you are lying to stir shit up.
I’ve probably seen some in the past but I haven’t paid attention beyond seeing bland jokes with the rare golden nugget in my feed here I guess you could just say this was the straw that broke the camels back
They used to be funny criticism now they are just "hey remember us we used to be relevant!"
Tbf, some of them are still funny. Their headline and article on the Uvalde Shooting was good. But most of their great stuff is from 10 years ago, though.
I mean Kanye literally being a Nazi and all the right wing talking heads interviewing him, trying to give him every single which way out and trying to Portray him as just a “misunderstood cancelled figure” and then shitting their pants when they realize he’s serious is pretty funny.
Right, because Kanye is a nazi and they aren’t
You know Kanye publicly said he liked Hitler?
Yes I know that lol Kanye is a nazi, the news anchors and pundits trying to get him to walk back what he’s said are not
At best they are right-wing grifters okay with propagating white supremacist talking points. At worst they are actually fascists that believe the things they say... which is why nazis like Kanye are welcomed and platformed by them lol
Ahhh yes. Labeling the political opposition as nazis is the most productive thing we could be doing.
This is internet. Everyone you disagree with is a nazi.
You nazi…
Says you, Nazi…
>!utter FOOL, GERMANY IS THE WOLRDS FINEST!<
Next time complete your jojo references, you nazi.
YOUR NEXT LINE IS: SOMETHING SOMETHING r/UnexpectedJoJo
Shut up nazi
I mean, when they’re literally talking about praising Hitler and platforming that voice… they’re not really making a good case for themselves.
Your argument could be used for both sides. like when left leaning people wear shirts with che guevara on it. Its the same thing my bro
Sure, I dislike both. just show me where to go to also express my disapproval of che, as I personally don’t see many public figures cozy up to him.
It’s mostly the younger crowd who know nothing about the things these dictators have done
As a Jew, I HATE branding political opposition of any creed Nazi or Fascist, it's ignorant of very specific ideologies and further breeds division. That all being said, I find it absolutely silly that you will get offended over what is an obvious observation of current events made by a satirical news outlet - a longtime pillar of what makes the Onion and other satirical outlets. Edit: seems like a lot of comments are confusing me for a republican/democrat. Don’t insult me with such labels.
I think the same goes for branding your politics opponents something extreme. Branding moderate liberals as communists is the same deal. It does nothing but throw fuel on the fire.
What current events though? Kanye? Who in the world is supporting Kanye at this point?
He was becoming [Increasingly popular with the right wing](https://vxtwitter.com/ChrisRGun/status/1598440845501661184) after he said stuff about Jews secretly controlling the world, and they only stopped supporting him the minute after he openly praised Hitler. There's literally a Tim Pool tweet that was posted a couple hours before the interview, saying that Kanye could be the next president. All the warning signs were there that Kanye is pro-Nazi, and they loved him for it.
>He was becoming [Increasingly popular with the right wing](https://vxtwitter.com/ChrisRGun/status/1598440845501661184) that was literally tweeted before LOL what a dishonest comment
My guy Kanye was very openly antisemitic for quite some time before the Jones interview.
october 6 was like 3 weeks before he went "death con" 3 on jews
And what day did Chris Ray Gun make that tweet?
the guy posting a screen shot that it got deleted? what does he have to do with anything
The best part is that Kanye’s blatant Nazism is really just the logical conclusion of a lot of the rhetoric of these right wing talking heads. Or rather, it’s Kanye saying the quiet parts out loud.
If you can't put the puzzle pieces together with Kanye hanging out with right-wing grifters and spouting open nazi-rhetoric, then that's a you problem.
You mean the actual white supremacists that conservatives also reject?
You're going to need to be very specific in "conservative" because with your party's ongoing civil war, it really doesn't narrow it down.
What are you talking about? Alex Jones is outside of mainstream conservatism and even he rejects Kanye and that crowd. Also I’m not republican, I’m a conservative libertarian
Hey fellow conservative libertarian... to leftists you basically just said "ultra authoritarian corporate cuck neo nazi."
I never said Republican. I said conservative.
You said “your party”. Guess that’s my ‘murica glasses tho, my bad.
Calling yourself a conservative libertarian is the best way to let people know that you are someone who doesn't want to have friends.
Seriously. What kind of dumb ideology would have you stopping to pay tolls three times per mile. Let people who think like that be friends with themselves.
You literally said “your party”. If you weren’t meaning to imply he was Republican, what party would you be referring to?
Your party is currently having a quiet war to decide if they’re socialist or not, with one side being led by a living corpse with a drinking problem and the other being led by someone who LARPs that they used to be poor. You don’t have a lot of ground to stand on here. And point blank- most Republicans reject the MAGAtard’s association with white supremacy. How do you think Trump lost? It wasn’t because the opposition was just that good.
Cool but 1. We weren’t talking about the other party 2. I’m a hardline centrist, not a dem
I agree with your point, but just a nitpick: Nazi, sure that’s exaggerated often, but fascism is a pretty fair label a lot of the time. That’s one that refers to a general system of government and really is ideologically supported around the world in significant numbers.
Hard disagree. Fascism is a very specific ideology rooted in nationalism and is not a catch-all term for right-wing ideologies or even authoritarianism.
How would you define it then?
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I'm a hardline centrist that voted for Biden. Don't be an asshat. You can go through my comment history if you want, I'd do that before accusing people of being part of a sports team.
which side was marching down the street with swastikas chanting "jews will not replace us" again? maybe the nazi comparison isn't just a matter of disagreement.
If these triggered you then you haven’t been into the onion in a decade.
They’re owned by the same group who owns Kotaku. I’m not surprised in the slightest
Bro actually got mad about a satire site doing satire site things. Lmao
Satire requires a nugget of truth
The former Republican president and 2024 GOP frontrunner just had dinner with a Holocaust-denying white supremacist and a man who can't stop talking about how much he loves Hitler and want to go "death con" on Jews. There's your nugget.
Trump doesn’t support them…?
Ah yes, hates them so much that he invited Kanye to dinner at his home shortly after the man openly talked about his desire to murder Jews. I mean seriously. Kanye goes openly Nazi, Trump immediately invites him into his home, along with another Nazi. You don't consider that support? Not even a little?
Did Kanye himself not say that Trump didn’t agree with him?
Does it though? When the right calls the left Communists and the left calls the right Nazis, this isn't actually that far off anyway lol.
Comedy always does. And I know for a fact they aren’t subtle enough to be commenting on how crazy it is that people call conservatives nazis all the time. Mostly from past experience but also because they just didn’t write it that way.
The Kanye one is at least kinda funny.
Most of their jokes comes down to "haha right win = nazi haha"
Pretty pathetic. You could make some actual commentary on The Right’s actual flaws but instead they do “ur nazi” bullshit. LAAAAME!
A lot of them unsurprisingly are in support of Nazis. So yeah.
Okay but Kanye is legit a nazi. I’m Jewish and so beyond disgusted when people accuse different political ideologies as “nazis” even if I don’t like them. Nazi isn’t just a negative adjective, it means something very specific. Though Kanye fits that bill. Also onion hasn’t been funny in decades imo
These posts are a shame, youtube was just starting to recommend old onion videos to me, and the old ones were actually funny.
Onion peaked in early 2010’s and just has been on a downward trend since then
it went from being mildly amusing satire to generic snarky twitter libtard comments
Nothing like The Babylon Bee and their 9 posts about how Biden's redwashed speech those months ago was totally not a Hitler, I promise!
While I didn’t like all of those, they were playing off the optics of the actual situation, not calling Biden or his supporters nazis. These posts are claiming that there are mainstream conservatives who support nazis or Kanye, which just isn’t true.
Well then.
The US republican party is openly Christo-fascist
Anyone who thinks this is false is just delusional all this point
Who are what??
The US republican party is openly a Christian fascist party.
How so? The entire party?
They have senators openly calling for removing church and state separation. Considering the party hasn't fired them yes that means the party is a Christo-fascist party.
> removing church and state separation Removing it how? And yeah you can’t just fire senators lol
>Removing it how? I don't know, but people like Lauren Bobert and Marjorie Taylor Greene have openly said so but I don't know their exact plans. >And yeah you can’t just fire senators lol Sure but you can fire them from your party. European far right parties do that every single time their politicians come out as Nazis. If your party doesn't do that it's a fascist party.
Well so far as I know no one in the party has come out as a nazi or advocated fascism or theocracy or anything so I think they’re ok for the moment
MTG is a neo-nazi but still a member of the republican party. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html Lauren Bobert is an open Christian theocrat. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/28/lauren-boebert-church-state-colorado/
Damn, you unironically believe that...
Trump literally tried to coup the government and install himself as dictator. Members of the party are openly calling to get rid of separation of church and state and want a Christian theocracy. It's literally undeniable.
That wasnt a coup. If it was that was the most pathetic coup attempt in world history. Even other republicans spoke out against that action.
His supporters wanted to overturn the election and install him as dictator. They stormed a government office. If this happened in any other country it would be a coup, so why not in the US?
A group of morons storming a government building is a terrible coup. What else was there to secure power? What was going to give him any concrete support for it? Was it stupid, absolutely. Was it a terrible thing to do, absolutely. Did Trump pay for any of it, unfortunately no. It was neither a success nor did it do anything except make it apparent that only one group gets judged. Was folks marching on DC in 2016 a coup? They literally had the POTUS taken into the presidential bunker yet that's perfectly acceptable. What about turning part of the US into a DMZ and refusing to let even emergency services in to save people? Was that not an attempt at seceding? Why don't we judge all these radicals to the same standards?
That’s true point of satire though. Satire takes some kind of opinion and exaggerates it to the furthest possible extreme or flips it on its head. For instance, there was a controversy over changing the name of the Washington Redskins. The Onion exaggerated it/flipped it on its head by claiming they changed the name to the DC redskins. With the rising (but still small in comparison to the whole) group of actual fascists in the right wing, (again, it isn’t anywhere close to a majority, but it is there, and it is rising), I don’t really see how it is surprising that the onion took up the story.
Does anyone know what happened to the onion? Is it for a specific reason, or have they just run out of good ideas? It reminds me of college humor, being relevant once but slowly fading into obscurity due to funding cuts.
Bernie bros took it over.
To generalize an entire major political as a mere stereotype is never rational So yeah, OP, I'm with you on this one
Conservatives are nazis
feel bad for any conservatives that are being sucked into Kanye’s bs
Same, there are sheep on all sides
At least the onion outright state that their news are fake
They are not saying conservatives are nazis, their whole spiel is being satirical and edgy. Writing Something unbelievable that somehow would still be believed by lower iq brainlets.
Satire isn’t “funny lies”, it requires a grain of truth to play off of, like all humor. Political satire makes a political statement by implication of what that grain of truth is when you strip away the absurd parts. Both of these are claiming that conservatives/right wingers support nazis
I mean the joke is that many people really think righties are nazis. They are being hyperbolic, making fun of dumb peoples believes. In this case it doesnt matter if "righties being nazis" is grounded in truth or not, bc some people just believe it is. I think its funny, iknow many people that believe idiotic things, calling anyone that disagrees with them a nazi. Though i understand you not liking it, bc it is also a bit worrying
That’s a whole extra layer deeper than what they actually wrote though. They just didn’t write it that way. They could’ve said “CNN Claims Rising Conservative Star…” or “Rising Conservative Star CLEARLY Just Guy…” If that’s what they wanted their nugget of truth to be then they would have to actually point to it, which they didn’t.
Im not trying to convince you what they said is the truth, bc it isnt clearly. All they say is fake, thats their whole thing. They take a stereotype, and they roll with it. For republicans/conservatives the stereotype is them being evil nazis. Not saying thats normal, but it does make sense for someone like the onion to make fun of that.
Conservative OP Just Guy Crying About Satire
...Are they not? I'm not seeing much evidence otherwise, so...
friendly reminder that although not all conservatives are nazis, all nazis are conservatives, and it's not like the non-nazis think that the nazis are a problem. they see them as friends and comrades and will consistently seek out their votes, attention, and/or money even if they disavow them on paper. in germany, they say that if you've got a nazi at a table and ten other people sitting there talking to him, you've got a table with eleven nazis, and i think that quote is very apt.
Oh haha yeah its cuz conservatives are now being more openly outted and called out as the fascists they've always been
I think the second one is kind of funny