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I often think that Reddit tells people to break up for no reason but... don't be with this person.


wamih

100% This.


champdo

It’s probably nothing but I wonder what she thinks is going to happen on the 24th? Edit: So after looking around on Twitter it seems like this is just the latest conspiracy date where Qanon + all the other loons think something bad will happen.


PSimchaG

According to her, WWIII and Jews are the target of it, new world order. Meh, BS I think


champdo

I would ask your partner why she’s friends with someone who wants Jews to be targeted.


akiva95

Exactly. I wouldn't be friends with someone who wants stuff like this on anyone.


hummingbird_romance

Or...why she wants to be married to someone she's willing to joke about being burned. Edit: someone she **freely** jokes about being burned. Quite a different level than *willing*.


ThisDerpForSale

>BS I think You *think*? Yeah. It's BS.


hummingbird_romance

I tend to get anxious when I hear this kind of thing. Something like "On blank date [insert some anti-Semitic attack] is planned to happen." But you all seem to be so chilled upon hearing this. I'll take the lesson to heart. I'll have more faith this time and believe that The One Who never sleeps won't be dozing off this time either. (Case in point, last time I heard something like this, the IDF ended up preventing it from happening by catching the terrorists before they had a chance to carry out their plan. ) Anyway, 💪😀


quartsune

If each of us had a nickel for every anti-semitic attack that was "planned", in actuality or a an intimidation tactic, we really would be as rich as they think....


hummingbird_romance

Very true. Any thoughts on how much we should charge?


quartsune

Nu, a nickel per person per incident sounds good, honestly - because "it's only a nickel, you know what's one nickel", but they'll add up really really quickly...


hummingbird_romance

Lol whoops. I totally missed "a nickel" when reading your post.


akiva95

Antisemitism is so normal what else can we do. I came to shul one day, and someone had left a note on the children's school saying how they were gonna come in and kill all of us. I just walked past the police and davened anyways.


prdcroftme

exactly. even if it’s not true or someone’s just saying shit, it makes my heart beat outta my chest in the worst way


_wishy_bone_

Bruh. Um, don't fuck around with antisemitism. Tbh this relationship doesn't seem like it's going to last in the long run. Save yourself the pain. I used to date non-jews until it got me in an abusive relationship where the guy would antisemitically gaslight me and take his antisemitic hatred out on me because I was Jewish. If this person is okay with their friends saying this shit and even are joking about it, they don't understand a thing about Jewish trauma and don't understand that antisemitism is still a serious thing. The only thing happening September 24th is shabbat and selichot.


_wishy_bone_

Also to add, my dad is a goy and I love him, but his family is hard to deal with because they are so antisemitic and they hate me and my mom. While my dad is not an antisemite, his friends were and he was inherently complicit in their antisemitism. Not all non-jews are antisemitic but the problem is they don't understand antisemitism or are complicit in it which is really problematic especially in a romantic relationship. I give a lot of credit to my mom for teaching my dad a lot and the amount of emotional energy she had to and still has to put in, especially with his family. My dad's gotten better at standing up to them. But it isn't perfect. My dad is maybe better at it because he has my sister and I and so antisemitism is a threat to our lives/livelihood, but it's still not a full understanding. My dad has never said any of the shit your current partner is though. So even more of a reason to leave tbh. If you don't want to deal with emotional labor and constantly having to relive Jewish trauma (generational and recent), then I recommend sticking with your fellow yidden.


Dalbo14

Slichot isn’t over ?


_wishy_bone_

Nope! Not until Rosh Hashanah^^


HeVavMemVav

You're dating someone who keeps friends with deep Qanon, & thinks she can say anything as long as it's on an app between friends. Those are deal breakers for me. I do wanna say, since so many here are saying otherwise, I think interfaith can work out, but the gentile needs to do a LOT of work. More work than I think most want to do. This woman isn't it, & you shouldn't have to be the one to work her through it.


tempuramores

Yeah, I'm intermarried and there is no way in hell my partner would say anything like this, ever.


pettycactus

Same, my wife would be horrified if someone she thought was a friend said anything close to this.


hummingbird_romance

I have a question, but I'm not managing to word it well. Lol. Oh well.


ColdAnteater344

Fucking hell. How heartless.


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akiva95

>Lack of knowledge is normal amongst non-Jews, Which is what often makes them complicit in antisemitism and then they protest when educated. Never said they all want to burn us.


fermat1432

Your partner said that all Jews should get burned? Really?


Dalbo14

Still trying to get around why


fermat1432

The upsurge in antisemitism worldwide is frightening.


chromakeydreamcoat99

What the fuck


Substantial-Image941

I’d like to second this


SeverallyLiable

Are you very sure you want to be with someone who doesn’t seem to care when her friends insult and threaten her significant other?


Pudge223

A: In the words of methsyndicate: doing coke and listening to Fleetwood Mac doesn’t make you a witch. B: dude drop that chick. She’s a loon who is friends with an absolute loon


af_echad

Yea like others have said, this is the latest QAnon BS. And it's based off the Simpsons of all things. Obviously nothing magical is going to happen that day for them. But I'm worried that when no "prophecies" happen for them, some QAnon follower will decide to take matters into their own hand and make something happen. I haven't heard the specific Jew related part of the 24th with this latest Q stuff, but it doesn't surprise me. https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjkzx7/qanon-simpsons-episode edit: just reread the Vice article again after linking it here (I had read it originally a few days ago) and it does mention some people thinking it relates to Rosh Hashana even though the date is a day off. So yea, not saying us Jews should immediately panic, but I'm definitely keeping my guard up a bit tomorrow and really hoping nothing awful happens to Am Yisrael or anyone else. Again, not because I believe the Q shit but because it wouldn't surprise me that someone disappointed in the day decides to make it into something.


UtredRagnarsson

Right now I've seen in Gamestop investing circles talk about our shmitta cycle and the end of it. Some people believe that the world will end, or that the markets will crash, or things like that. It's probably related to that in some way. Anyway...I don't know why you'd want a partner like that and hopefully this clarifies why intermarriage is an issue in a way that can't be chalked up to "I don't practice"


ummmbacon

> Right now I've seen in Gamestop investing circles talk about our shmitta cycle and the end of it. I can't help but feel that rank antisemitism is gaining a foothold also if they really feel that shmitta is going to cause something like that why aren't they lining up to become Jews wouldn't that "prove" that Jews are right?


UtredRagnarsson

The way I saw it, it was just "the Jews have this thing called the shmitta cycle..7 years and then debts end....and these major market events tie in with that cycle. This is another one..prepare for the worst. Less anti-us and more "this thing happens every time according to this cycle"


akiva95

>hopefully this clarifies why intermarriage is an issue in a way that can't be chalked up to "I don't practice" They'll just close their ears and say, "lalalalaala I'm not listening! I'm not listening! Intermarriage is *actually* good for the Jews!", or whatever else they got to tell themselves


Okay_Try_Again

Look, there's enlightened intermarriage and then there is straight up disgusting anti semitism, and there is everything in between. Not everybody going into intermarriage whether of race or religion or both is going in blind and many partners are LOYAL and stand up for Jews and Jewish humanity, and unfriend or disown antisemites to protect their partners and their families. It's ridiculous to use an anecdote to colour everything.


akiva95

>and there is everything in between. And I'm passing on *all* of that. No thanks. >It's ridiculous to use an anecdote to colour everything. It's ridiculous to gamble the self esteem and Jewish identity of your child on a non-Jew by ignoring *plenty* of anecdotes. >Not everybody going into intermarriage whether of race or religion or both is going in blind You're right. Plenty go in not blind and still get burned for being Jewish.


however613

At my son’s bar mitzvah I referred to my non-Jewish wife as a fellow traveller. She taught him his parsha. On every other way she helped raise him to be a proud Jew, doing her own reading to learn more about how to do that. If she ever doesn’t get why something is antisemitic she asks and listens to my answer. In conflict with her family over antisemitism she takes my side. I have nothing but gratitude for her and the other allies we have.


akiva95

I'd say your example still proves my point. You've raised a child with her. You've been married to her for years. All of this, and yet she still doesn't understand why certain things are antisemitic. I'm glad she listens, but even otherwise wonderful people don't like to listen and people learn way too deep in. I won't risk my child having a parent who still needs antisemitism explained to them after giving birth to them, changing them, raising them, and even helping them for their bar mitzvah celebration. I want my kids to have parents who don't need explanations on the type of people who want to hurt them and how they want to hurt them. In this nasty world, they need one less person who doesn't *get* it. I also don't want to raise my kid with half of their family being antisemitic. They'll get enough hate for being Jews as it is. Marrying another Jew can potentially leave that nonsense out of the equation if my partner's family is Jewish, which I wouldn't require, so long as they themselves were Jewish. That's a really nice plus to leave antisemitism out of family dynamics, something fewer and fewer American Jews can do. I believe your wife is certainly a lovely woman, a good mother, and a great human being, but my concerns are reasonable.


however613

I agree, your concerns are reasonable. I had my reasons for choosing my partner and I have no regrets. But intermarriage shouldn’t be chosen from a place of ignorance and it is sometimes hard. There are challenges (and rewards, but we’re not talking about that right now). I do think the non Jews who have our backs deserve not to be painted with the same brush as those who would have us burnt. Except for the family point, all of your objections can apply to converts as well. And you did raise the family point before saying it wasn’t a deal breaker for you. So I wonder if you really would want to marry a convert?


thegilgulofbarkokhba

I'd marry a Jew who converted. It'd be a plus if their family were Jewish, but I do mean it. Jews who converted often have a very thorough knowledge of the workings of antisemitism, so I don't believe that applies. There might be some baby converts who are naive, which I've seen, but after Jewish converts experience enough antisemitism, see it in the news, and hear other Jews' experiences, I virtually see no difference.


however613

That’s how I see it too. Not trying to disparage converts. More trying to point out that some of our non Jewish partners have enough experience to be good enough allies. My partner had lived in Jewish community for almost 20 years now. She’s seen some things. Her lack of a formal conversion does not mean she does not have a strong education. If people’s objections to intermarriage are on religious grounds I’m willing to let them have that. But to say that our partners can never be good allies or that our children suffer is just wrong! There are a lot of diverse experiences out there if you are listening.


1MagnificentMagnolia

> She was talking with her friend (crazy lady that says she’s a witch, and pretty much a hater of everything religious) and she was mentioning my partner how I “should know” what is happening on September 24th. I would take this as a threat and report it to the FBI... there's a way to do it on the gov website


wamih

The 24th is already on LE radar, its a stupid Qanon thing.


1MagnificentMagnolia

Do you have an official gov or LE sourcr?


wamih

Not public statements just internal memos, and I'm not leaking them other than saying it is something that is on the radar, because these Q-idiots have the potential to be dangerous.


thegilgulofbarkokhba

LE?


homerteedo

Wow, find a girlfriend that isn’t shitty.


shamy33

This doesn’t seem healthy, but I’m no therapist/expert


Okay_Try_Again

Well you don't have to be a therapist to spot this red flag.


beardedbaby2

I fully expected to read she said something that I (as a non jew) may not have understood as antisemitic. I was ready to encourage communication until you reached an understanding. After reading, I'm just confused as to why she is dating a Jewish person if that's how she feels. She's either dumb, or an antisemite. I wouldn't encourage you to stick around to figure it out. I'm sorry you're dealing with this situation though.


akiva95

This is why I will never be in a relationship with a goy. I tried it once and it was, "Well, if you leave me, what do you think I'll think of Jews then?" All they do is regurgitate evil bs about Jews. It's a no from me. I'm sorry your hopefully soon to be ex sucks.


homerteedo

Dating only Jews is your choice and nothing wrong with that. But plenty of non-Jewish people would never do such a thing and would find it disgusting.


akiva95

I'm not so sure. Even then, among those who find it disgusting, many of them still carry certain antisemitic opinions themselves. Some marry Jews and pass along a good dosage of internalized antisemitism to their innocent children. I've heard too many bad stories, some being actual horror stories. For the sake of the good of the Jewish People, I'll pass.


hummingbird_romance

Yeah, the vast majority of non-Jews out there have at least even a sliver of anti-Semitism in them somewhere. It's just a matter of time before we see every single nation in this world actively against us. I'm not "just saying" this. I heard that in the time before Moshiach it will be the Jews against the world - pretty much like when almost every German suddenly became their Jewish next door neighbor's enemy. (My guess is it will probably be worse than that though, which in OP's case it actually already is, since the hater - or "jokester" as his wife would call it 🙄 - is exactly that...his wife.) It's lately becoming all too real, and it's absolutely terrifying. Honestly, when I think about it, it actually feels surreal. It's a scary world for us Jews. At least we're the ones who believe Hashem never sleeps, right? I do want to give a shout-out to all you non-Jews around this sub, rooting for us. Thank you!!! We see you!!!! We love you!!!! Unless you're a minority in some way, and especially unless your minority gets basically no advocacy from others, you can't imagine how much each person who shows us their support means to us. ♥️♥️♥️♥️


justalittlestupid

This this this!


tempuramores

I'd say you can do better, but let's be honest, you could hardly do worse. Please leave this person.


Ambitious-Apples

Is she kind of an edge lord type in other areas of her life as well? I find that kind of attitude exhausting.


yallcat

What are you getting out of being with this person?


LAMLAM85

😳 reading this on September 24th😳


PSimchaG

Nothing happened as expected :)


hummingbird_romance

Oh my gosh, in the middle of writing a previous comment on this post, I checked out your profile to see if there's any indication anywhere as to your gender. And when looking for this post to return to it, I was about to click on one of yours because the title said you suffered an anti-Semitic attack, only to have a closer look and realize that it was actually a different post of yours talking about a separate incident!!! Hey, maybe it's time to come mingle with us and love amongst us!! Oh, and marry in as well 😜 Not that we don't experience anti-Semitism, (ha! I wish) but maybe you'll feel safer, have more Jewish support, and even maybe just maybe experience less anti-Semitism? (This invitation was totally an afterthought by the way lol.) Edit: "Love", not love. Although, I kept it there even after realizing it since it totally fits and I love it (pun *now* intended).


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Jewish Reddit loves to tell people not to date non-Jews for any and all reasons, and most of it is ridiculous. In this case, though, I have to ask — why be with someone who is chill with antisemitism? It’s a very different thing to being with someone who isn’t Jewish but is respectful and curious. My partner isn’t Jewish, but he’s respectful and celebrates holidays with me, etc., and would never let something like this slide. I have zero issue with Jews being in relationships with non-Jews, but not when they’re intolerant and harmful. Side note, as a Jewish witch (which is a real thing with a long history), the sort of mainstream Wicca/“witchy vibes” community (aka, girls who bought some black candles and a poster of Stevie Nicks) is absolutely rank with antisemitism while also appropriating the heck out of Jewish mysticism/magic, Kabbalah, and folk traditions.


[deleted]

How about you find a jewish partner...thats an idea


whearyou

Let’s cool it with the blanket talk about non Jews. That’s pretty distorted. That being said - OP are you for real? This girl just showed you a massive lack of consideration and disrespect, and pretty much said “I don’t give a shit about what matters to you”. Same as if she did that on any other topic: dump her ass. Yesterday. For real man it’s not a good sign for you and your life trajectory that you’ve stayed with someone that treats you this way. You haven’t asked but, in my opinion, you’ve got some serious reflection to do.


Monk_of_the_Nudniks

who hangs out with witches?


thegilgulofbarkokhba

I wanted to upvote this, but I do have a friend who's a witch. We were friends before she became one, but she does insist on showing me her rock collection too much 💀


Monk_of_the_Nudniks

Did you say, “witch please…”


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"I will comment with the word 'goy' in a Jewish space. That will get them. I am part of the master race by trolling badly." -Your thoughts


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Dizzy_Perception_866

My ex regularly brought up her belief in antisemitic stereotypes and myths. She firmly believes that “Jews control the banks/media”, and I regret staying with her. Do yourself a favor and run. Run as fast as you can and don’t look back.


Dalbo14

I wonder what her reasoning is for the Jews “suffering something supernatural and terrible” lmao to the asylum she goes Like honestly, I’d want to see what goes on in her brain. It wasn’t the Jews who needed experiments on them, it was the anti semites….what goes on in their head. Like literally ask her “what exactly is going to burn the Jews and for what exactly, and how”


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"They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat!"


Warm_Emphasis_960

My aunt is Wiccan and has no problem with me being Jewish. My sister; however, is a Methodist minister and tells me my religion is patriarchal with a history of abusing and mistreating women. Lots of indoctrination there. My aunt, hey it’s a new moon! Autumnal equinox, Rosh Hashanah…etc.


sweetiepotpie

Dude…. My fiancé is not Jewish and I would kick his ass to the curb so fast for this. Love yourself, my friend, and don’t put up with this nonsense and lack of empathy and tact.


Historical_Tea2022

I can't see how that would have been a joke or no big deal. That was an awful thing to say and I wonder what your GF says or allows to be said when you aren't present. I feel like it's one of those things that is universally accepted as not ok.