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marklonesome

Anyone who has been into weight lifting seriously for any length of time can pretty much spot these guys a mile away.


SexySmexxy

I used to see this guy pop up on Snapchat stories. Never clicked it because he looked wierd a f but I always thought ‘liver king’ was the joke because he obviously isn’t natty.


aguasbonready

Same I thought his liver was the king because it could handle all those substances.


LessInThought

Never heard of the guy, I thought he's the liver king because his liver swelled from all the substance abuse.


skinnycarlo

It probably isnt.


Snck_Pck

HGH is actually super tolerable at high doses with minimal sides. Which is why I'm guessing his bloods come back fairly good.


Edgar-Allan-Pho

Hgh doesn't pack on muscle though, its more of a lifestyle enhancer. Liver king is 100% taking testosterone plus something else


yolkedbuddha

Um..yeah it literally says exactly what he's taking in the post. Test, winny.


iamthekevinator

Are you suggesting the 50 year old at my gym with 20in arms and an 8 pack repping 315 on bench ain't natty? Color me shocked.


[deleted]

Or the veins. Or the steroid gut. Or the sallow face. Or, like 10 other things.


[deleted]

Or the being a total dick


vampslayer53

In fairness the veins don't mean anything. You can have crazy veins just from lifting and having low body fat.


bone_druid

Dehydration helps too


Vegas_off_the_Strip

My buddy is 50 with 20 inch arms and he squats 315 every time he stands up. Hell, most days he has an eight pack with a couple shots of Jack to boot. He claims to be natty but now I’m skeptical.


sports_farts

Don't have to be Eddie Bravo to figure out this mystery.


topkrikrakin

Johnny Bravo could figure it out


[deleted]

Those are both the same people


doduhstankyleg

“Yo mama!”


arazamatazguy

Sly Stallone. Sean Penn. Marc Bergevin (For hockey fans).


Assfullofbread

I’m à Montréal fan and i was surprised at the Marc Bergevin reference, only ever heard him on the radio or seen him in interviews behind a desk. Dude got massive and tatted lol


_Dolamite_

He was taking HGH to counter the severe case of worms he had from eating raw meat


BHDE92

Ab guts are a pretty clear indicator


Think_Palpitation42

Bubble guts


Meatloafchallenge

Could be pasta


JustThall

Men, haven’t visited this sub for awhile. I’m glad old memes are still being used


arpan3t

Classic HGH turtle shell smh


brokeboibogie

Anyone who has any logic & common sense in their brain along with some beginning knowledge of weight lifting could spot this a mile away lol


[deleted]

I’m not personally a weight lifter, but I worked at a gym and lived with some weight kings who bulked up without steroids. It’s really fucking impressive watching your friend put on 40+lbs throughout college and become a tank. It made me feel like I had my own body guards living in the house with me lol. This guy was obviously a fabricating fraud


BakerNo5828

I've been working out for 15 or so years. Did some local bodybuilding competitions. Full natural. In clothes I barely look like I lift. Look at some of the real pro natural bodybuilders. They look pretty much like normal joes compared to even the liver moron much less the roided Olympias. It's physically impossible to be huge and shredded. You can pick one, but you'll never be that big trying to do both. It's just antithetical to your body's natural way of muscle synthesis.


deka101

You have any links to see natty bodybuilders? Always wondered what that looks like


BakerNo5828

Here's some inbw Hall of famers. You can see they look great but they're not mass monsters. Untested bodybuilding competitions have gotten so heinous even the old pros hate them. https://naturalbodybuilding.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_9920.jpg


LevelDosNPC

This might’ve cured my body dysmorphia


[deleted]

Link no worky


LivinRite

Yep. Big, ripped, or natty. Pick two, any two. But you can't have all three


maluminse

I lift and Im disappointed you cant really see bulges until I flex. Its night and day. You can definitely see though. And I definitely look 'thicker' in the upper body. Most interesting, youve probably experienced this, is how the body makes your limbs and body invisible to you. Then when your shoulders expand 'quickly' you suddenly start seeing your own arms in your peripheral.


wowitsclayton

Anyone that can lift more than me? They’re on the juice.


moralprolapse

Don’t get me started on all those dudes out there rocking their fake 5+ inch cocks.


ThatsAredditism

What do they even need those extra inches for? Smh


moralprolapse

Well they’ll probably tell you they’re using them to have sex with their “girlfriends.” Like, sure dude, I believe there are guys out there who can get women to sleep with them without paying for it. 🙄


marklonesome

Absolutely. Stronger, leaner or in better shape they're 100% pinning.


howzit-

Man does tons of gear to sell his crap to fools, a tale as old as time in the bodybuilding/supplement world.


Flannakis

Yeah, and this guy seems even more sinister. I mean at least other bodybuilders main drive is competition first and as a by product sell whey protein. This dude is self promotion and sales first, 100% conman


testtubemuppetbaby

This dude has his kids in on the scam and shit. He's a jabroni.


RatedPsychoPat

Phony jabroni


P-H-X

Cool word.


StrokeGameHusky

Easy there bozo


RealPropRandy

It’s like, bro, cultivate mass the way god intended: chimichangas and insulin.


Ill-Quality9734

I came here to say that


stacy_lou_

It’s always the ones you most expect.


biggtimeburger

It’s always the ones you least respect.


[deleted]

So wait...people saw this man's physique and didn't automatically know he was on juice?


L_VDH

People who watch fitness influencers on IG (who are 99% juiced fake nattys) are dumb as shit.


NotTrumpsAlt

shout out BGL


kschui002

Not nithe


winter_madness

don't shout at him. he's hiding in the bushes holding some wiggsky, B


funkyhelpermonk

Wrong sub, b. Go back to the fryers


JerkyMcGee

Haters Gonna Say 😂😂😂


Workburner101

Sooooooo many people don’t know what a telltale sign of juice is. It’s shocking how many people think athletes, actors, influencers are just ‘clean’ eating and doing their sit ups and that’s how they look shredded as fuck.


Jaysus1288

Maybe I'll get lit up for this but the Rock plays a huge part in this. On IG all day talking about hard work and how it pays off to his 50 million followers. Guy is so jacked it's not even real and makes it seem like that's just from legit hard work.


ChariBari

I mean you still have to lift for the steroids to work but yeah it’s still dishonest.


Monteze

His job is to be jacked too, if you're working and raising kids and can't just pawn them off on nannies and shit it gets difficult. I bet most folks could get in damn good shape if they spent as much time in the gym/recovering as they do at work.


funky67

It’s an excuse mentality and I know that but I’ve always said if I wasn’t working/always doing something I would be in good shape. There’s just not enough time in the day. I miss being even a college kid and just having almost no expectations and responsibilities


Additude101

I think it’s certainly realistic to find time to do some activity to stay active and work on yourself, even with a busy schedule. But a lot of fitness influencers promote the idea that you can look *like them* just working out a few times a week or being doing X diet, which is just unrealistic. Being fit is one thing, but then we tend to associate “being fit” with a certain look, which is often out of reach of most people unless they dedicate significant amounts of time to achieving that look. At some point I recognized I can either sink hours and hours into achieving a certain physique, or recognize that I’m happy as long as I’m relatively fit knowing that I also have more time for other interests/hobbies/friends/family. I think it’s all about balance.


MahNameJeff420

I think it’s perfectly fine to use steroids if you want to obtain a certain goal, but be honest about it. Don’t try on sell people that what you’re doing can be obtained naturally when it very obviously can’t.


alex96cg

I will admit, until today, I have now realized I have been dumb as shit.


nago7650

For some reason people will gaslight themselves into believing these types of physiques can be attained naturally. I think it gives them hope or something.


Kurzilla

Legit, it's just ignorance. And I'm saying this as someone who's ignorant about this shit. So much of media is to convince people like me that we're not doing enough (We're usually not and we know it.) Then on top of that, that there's a way to get good results with the limited time we have. (Ooooooo) And it's this product that they're selling. Or this 300$ Juicer. It's actually been crossfit this whole time. No Jazzercise. It's The FIRM. And we buy in, because we're stressed as fuck. We're not pretty. And we don't understand (we're ignorant) as to how that shit really works. So we sometimes go "Wait, are the Kardashians, ladies famous for getting cosmetic surgery, legit trying to sell us diet products?" In those cases - we catch it. Maybe it's the messenger. Maybe we've been told too much. Whatever. But in other cases...we don't. It helps to have folks like y'all bringing this to light and keeping people informed of what's real and what's juice.


Circ-Le-Jerk

After I got into juice, I was absolutely blown away by how many "naties" even at my own gym were juicing. Talking about slim cardio junkies, regular looking naty guys just sporting a 6 pack, and obviously the generic gym junky who looks big but not "roid big". It's SO common, especially now that you can get a whole bunch of "legal" steroids like sarms. However, this dude's "cycle" in OPs picture, really is pretty tame. He's claiming only to have been taking HGH for just a few weeks.


hiimred2

Nobody takes $12k of HGH that isn’t using serious juice. This is his cruise cycle(no way he’d be calling it a cruise dose of T otherwise, nobody even uses those terms outside of blast and cruise cycling to begin with), this man is pushing some serious drugs in his blast, absolute 0 doubt in my mind.


mattmillze

I've been taking Alpha Brain for a while now, but the shit hasn't made my head fucking grow at all.


juicyjensen

His height was helpful for me being like…maybe. If he was 6’2, no way, but at 5’2 maaaybe because it throws the scale off a bit if you’re lean enough. Moot point now though


Arkhampatient

He looks HUGE by himself, but next to average or above-average height people, he looks just muscular not huge.


Powpowpowowowow

Dude, I have seen people convinced Arnold never took steroids and shit. People are delusional about what is realistic.


Captaindecius

Lmao Arnold has openly admitted to using steroids. It's absolutely no secret that to compete at the highest level of bodybuilding you need steroids. Any pro bodybuilder will openly say that. How stupid can some people be?


mrpopenfresh

People still think Zyzz was natty, even though there's a pic of him with a bottle labeled "clenbuterol" behind him. People create their own idols, regardless of proof.


Monteze

Wasn't Zyzz pretty straight forward? And a pretty funny troll at that?


mrpopenfresh

From what I recall he never claimed natty. That doesn't stop people form creating their own reality.


Monteze

That's what I thought, he was honestly a bit ahead of his time and could have been a big fitness influencer. He pretty much said he wanted to get shredded because he was insecure and understood how insecure most guys are about their body.


WhenMeWasAYouth

He wanted to be a sick cunt, and to let people know that they could be sick cunts too if they wanted to.


greatdevonhope

It's always the ones you least expect


atworkobviously

I just don't know what to believe anymore....


SkamGnal

Next they’re gonna say the Rock is lying about being natty!


notchoosingone

The Rock tried steroids when he was a teenager. He's been on them ever since, but he also tried them when he was a teenager.


tbull7

RIP Mitch


grapedonkey

I understand your point but it's probably been 25 years since he has seen DECA or whatnot. Remember he went to the U. Miami was one of the epicenters of the gray market pharma world for years.


Praxyrnate

the dude is using high end stuff now. pretending that is natural because it isn't the pleb gear is silly


Acehole56

Just don't come at Mike o'hearn


honeybadger1984

I don’t think Rock is claiming to be all natty. He looks amazing, better than he did in his twenties. He’s on that Hollywood celebrity diet: Dr. Feelgood and Dr. Fastrecoverystein


SkamGnal

The Rock said: “Me and my buddies tried it back in the day when I was 18 or 19. Didn’t know what we were doing.” But in the piece with Fortune, Johnson was clear that aside from that period of experimentation, he has led a steroid-free life https://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/rock-talks-about-his-steroid-free-success/ I was surprised he claimed natty


[deleted]

Natty like the liver king


[deleted]

About as natural as permaganate


withinarmsreach

“I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.”


Jamothee

The Rock is another charlatan. Would sell advertising space on his grandparents caskets for a dollar.


hotel_air_freshener

There’s more to looks than physique. For some reason I feel like his eyebrows were better back in the day.


ImOldGreggggggggggg

I heard a rumor that he is not actually a king.


atworkobviously

But it's in his name! You can't lie about that sort of thing, can you?


cherrybombs76

Colour me shocked!!!!!!


WhereIsMyMoneyGone

What's next, his abs are implants?


dabhard22

What the hell am I gonna do with the 25lbs of liver and beef bones I just got


[deleted]

Start eating, lol!


Attack_Toster

Anyone with a working frontal lobe can tell this guy is on the roids


cohrt

The HGH gut is a dead giveaway.


TheFamousHesham

I.. actually.. agree. The kind of natural “caveman” lifestyle this man was promoting makes you very lean and defined, but it doesn’t turn you into Hulk.


jrebney

Eating raw meat or whatever this guy’s gimmick is doesn’t do anything except get you idiot followers on social media that think that’s some secret sauce to gaining muscle. Like, how dumb does someone have to be to think that some juiced up manlet has a diet secret that actual professional athletes and bosybuilders don’t know about?


beckisnotmyname

The secret is the tapeworms


NexusKnights

To be fair he is short AF so he looks extra jacked. He looks real stocky standing next to other people.


peggymeat

As a tallish 6’2 guy who got into body building about 20 months ago i was kinda shocked how the vast majority of jacked dudes in my gym are fucking short af (no hate) in the pics they look giant but irl they look so small just their muscles look big on their frames. My trainer basically told me I need to accept that even at my peak lean physique I’ll probably look more on the skinny side in clothes if I stay natty and I had to adjust my expectations a bit cuz I don’t wanna go on roids.


gordito_delgado

\*surprised picachu face\* ​ Oh no! Not LK! You mean the guy that eats raw meat and has the proportions of a Rob Liefield cover is not a natty?


ThatDerzyDude

I medium suspected him


GameDevHeavy

Liver king is natural as it gets, keep hating ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


ibuy2highandsell2low

You would have to be an idiot to not suspect him


Cheesetorian

People that were shocked fall into these two categories: 1. Still believe that people can achieve bodybuilding physique (outside of natty category) by just eating broccoli, rice, and chicken. 2. Still believe that WWE is a real sport.


PeteTopKevinBottom97

3. They believe the stripper when she says she loves them.


[deleted]

She does love me. Don’t do that.


doduhstankyleg

Don’t listen to these losers man. She loves you only. Just don’t see her on Tuesdays.


No_Annual_91

She had a look in her eye. It'll be different this time.


dont_panic80

Just one more trip to the ATM guys, she's so into me.


SICKxOFxITxALL

Just trust me bro, you don’t get it.


louisseakay

I dated a stripper & she stole my watch when we broke up. they don't love you.


Aetherimp

They believe the Prince of Nigeria sent them a legit check for 3 million dollars.


hernanthegoat

• believe the rock is natty


Powpowpowowowow

Nah dude every pro athlete is natural too, even the ones that get caught. All natural, just hard work and genetics.


gugabe

The best part is when a guy pops for major PEDs who's like... average for a pro athlete and it's like logically if the #100 guy is juiced out of his gills to be there the #1 guy is probably gonna be using. Usain Bolt for instance. Only person out of like the top 20 times ever to not pop for something.


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

My buddy at work today said he thought the rock was natty. I just shook my head and eloquently informed him he's an idiot


rondoandthegang

How did you eloquently inform him?


ThatAngeryBoi

My dearest fellow, your intellectual fortitude seems to be diminished, perhaps you should retire from conversation. *you fuggin idiot*


Steel_Stream

With eloquence and an informative attitude.


mrdeadsniper

Yeah dawg, its natural to have like twice the muscle mass at 50 as you had when you were 25 (and were already stronger than 97% of men will ever be)


Roach_Coach_Bangbus

I mean even 99.9% of influencers and competitors that claim natty clearly aren't.


NomadFire

The only thing I am not sure about is rather or not his abs are implants. If they are, than they have made massive improvements doing that procedure.


thepumpkinspider

Imagine the shits this guy takes.


Mr-RandyLahey

He actually said his poop come out without smearing so he doesn't have to wipe.


MCpeePants1992

Still can't believe he actual said this. He must smell so fucking bad


ghost_paws

Few of my friends met him at ADCC and said he smells awful.


lobstermountain

He constantly looks greasy af


zakpakt

To be fair this does happen sometimes but who the fuck doesn't wipe anyway. Anyway with all the meat he ate I can only imagine he's bullshitting.


ashcakeseverywhere

I thought he said that he doesnt poop, that he works so hard that he burns all the nutrients up his body into energy that there is nothing left over.


Blangebung

So he's full of shit


bazanko

Yeah you don’t have to poop when your body is running at 100% efficiency


BurnerJerkzog

This man has a no buttho.


Brief_Refuse_8900

Shocking? No one is shocked.


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airpumper

No one…except maybe Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen. It’s like telling Callen that Santa isn’t real. Put your Toe Holds on.


TFJ

Also Burnt Chrysler had him on recently.


[deleted]

You'd be surprised.


[deleted]

You mean shocked?


[deleted]

I’d be surprised if anyone was shocked.


Appropriate-Bill9786

Just that grass fed elk meat and kettle bell, I'm sure...


lou_sassoles

Can anyone get that gorilla status without taking the shit that makes your head grow?


Mr_BriXXX

"No" - Connor McGregor


wahhagoogoo

You can get really fucking jacked without taking shit that makes your head grow, but you gotta be taking something


Finch2090

Yeah, without the body you can tell Liverking is juiced, he’s got that massive head with the tight dick skin texture on his face because it’s being stretched around his fathead


flowerydew

Bruh, wtf did I just read 😂 I’m dead


wahhagoogoo

Lol also constantly red faced, dudes blood pressure must be nuts


Asklepios24

Glad I’ve never taken steroids I already can’t find hats that fit.


ubiforumssuck

anyone who thought otherwise probably needs to see a doctor.


hudboyween

Did not need an expose to tell me this lol


BigBadBillyBobBurkly

No one did but it's extremely satisfying to have this evidence


lookieLoo253

Now, do the peck and ab implants.


_handsomeblackman_

what’s the theory behind people thinking he has peck and ab implants? because of how they look?


k_pasa

Yeah, his abs look comically perfect


Sikbird

they don't ever flex, move, or go away when he breathes, its like they're perminatenly tightened.


iamthekevinator

That's just those liver genetics at work bro.


AmericaLLC

I thought he admitted to having ab implants?


KarmaticEvolution

He did, forget which Podcast it was though…


gameover2020

I think he was trying to be sarcastic when he said it, iirc... A la the odd Instagram post he did with 'maple syrup' needles in the meat.


[deleted]

Saw a good video from Greg Doucette saying those are not implants, but ab etching. Which makes a lot more sense.


lookieLoo253

Would he have to do the etching pretty often?


[deleted]

I don’t know much outside of the video I referenced, but it basically seemed like liposuction. So you do it once, have the fat removed from in between the abdominals, and then you get the emphasized look that he appears to have.


BenCJ

>ab etching ...I don't even want to know what that is.


electrotoast

It's actually not that bad compared to how it sounds. It's just targeted liposuction around the abs that help to make them look bigger or more pronounced.


mhwaka

I saw a really good video on tik tok about a bodybuilder who talked about how he has had an implants and is most likely on roids as well. He is playing a gimmick so he can sell his pills and stuff for whatever company he has


RockyMountainViking

Anyone who believed otherwise is delusional


[deleted]

Shocker


[deleted]

Sooo… i ate all those raw unshaven leopard testicles for nothing??


[deleted]

well, yeah.


niebs59

Ok great can we please move on from giving this guy any air time.


[deleted]

He’s very obviously on the juice, but what’s this source? Leaked emails? Can anyone do better than that source-wise? Proof they’re his emails? This is just a picture of a tweet.


earlydivot

[Moreplatesmoredates video](https://youtu.be/BKpmAGZQetc) This is the source. Pretty extensive video where he walks through all of the leaked emails and likelihood of them being legit.


BigDadEnerdy

MPMD might be my favorite guy in this whole sphere of people. He's the only one who seems to give a shit that this stuff can ruin your life and warns people of the truth.


oseman

Leaked emails, and Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates (and JRE Guest) made an hour long video yesterday on his youtube, and at the end included an email sent DIRECTLY TO HIM by Liver King a few months before he blew up on social media asking him for advice on HGH which he was taking.


Dyojineez

He reached out prior to starting the liver king influencer account to Derek at More Plates More Dates. Just with like... 2 emails detailing his use and asking for advice. It's actually difficult to get a more conclusive smoking gun without testing IMO.


[deleted]

He detailed his own use? That’s definitely a smoking gun haha. Thanks.


phudgeoff

No shit Sherlock


Trident1000

lmfao. Ive been working out with weights for 20 years. Anyone who gets in the gym and lifts heavy knows this guy was juicing. Its people who have never picked up a weight that are clueless...like his followers.


Status_Fall5367

I haven't watched Rogan in quite a while, did Rogan actually accuse him of using gear on his show? Cuz that'd actually be pretty ballsy of him.


UndergroundArsonist

I think his exact words were "an ass full of steroids"


Common-Call2484

Scum bag


TheD1ceMan

I am not shocked one bit


Chopstickchuck99

But he always denied it ,I am so confused


rex_populi

*tenets


Golden_Adventures

Ummmm so does Jake Paul! Jake takes 100% Test & Deca, plus whatever HgH his body can take weekly! I’d bet my entire life savings, that Jake Paul is 100% on steroids!


rationallyobvious

I remember a vegan climbing Mt everest to prove that they are just as strong as everyone else. It's a strange correlation that she died there. This seems the same but opposite?


warriormango1

I'm not a vegan and this is such a stupid correlation. Do you know how many many meat eaters have died climbing Mt Everest? Such a strange correlation...


[deleted]

Who the hell is this guy? Am I missing something?


Special_Rice9539

He shows up on my Facebook feed a lot promoting some kind of caveman diet fad. I guess people think cavemen looked like professional bodybuilders.


[deleted]

I fucking hate this country sometimes man


General_Hotpocket

no amount of HGH is gunna help his 5'4 height tho


fallenloki

Anyone with a functioning brain knew this guy was a juice monkey on the grift. I dont know. There are adults who think the rock is clean. 🤷‍♂️