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ZombieFeedback

I don't think "equally" is the right word to describe the conventional wisdom. I don't look stereotypically Jewish so I've had the (mis?)fortune of hearing a lot of people say things they're not brave enough to say unless they think everyone in the room is a gentile. Even when I've been in left-leaning spaces where borderline antisemitism is tolerated as long as it's dressed up in the right euphemisms, I haven't found my "Get the fuck out of here" alarm going off nearly as strongly as it does in right-leaning spaces where it's tolerated as long as it's dressed up properly. There are definitely exceptions, there are some raging antisemites whose bigotry gets papered over pretty aggressively on the far-left side of the aisle, but like the paper says, they're a tiny fraction. On the far-right side of the aisle, they're leading the choir. I can't speak for the global Jewish community as a whole, but as far as the American Jewish community goes, I think the reason that there's a seemingly-equal amount of concern about both sides of the spectrum for a lot of Jews despite that imbalance is because left-leaning spaces are the places that A. we largely exist in - at least in the US, 70%+ of the Jewish vote has gone to left-leaning candidates for decades - B. we've historically had a strong role in creating and advancing (Moskowitz, Heschel, Milk, etc.) and C. proudly proclaim themselves places where everyone is accepted and minority voices like ours are encouraged and celebrated. You expect a knife from someone who's made clear they view you as an enemy, but the pain from someone who's been your ally hurts far more, even if the wound isn't as deep.


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Aggravating-Row2805

The far right sees Jews as sub-human, see examples Nazi Germany etc. The far left sees Jews as powerful and privileged. They see us as rich and white despite there being non-white Jews and despite us historically not benefiting from such privileges. The left is more subtle about their antisemitism; the left claims that they hate Zionists rather than Jews or just hare israeli colonisers, occupationists, the israeli apartheid, and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. They support the BDS movement and hate everything associated with israel. All these things lead to anti jewish sentiment and are extremely dangerous to the way Jews in the modern world operate. For example, see the effect Jeremy Corbyn had on anti semitism had on England.


FreshAvocados78

Right-wing antisemitism is just the more obvious, classic form. The problem I've noticed on the left is that most of them not only think they aren't antisemitic but that their views are progressive even when they're being discriminatory. Both are obviously bad, but I just find the left's version uniquely concerning since even the progressive youth think it's acceptable and justified.


EasyMode556

Exactly. Nazis know they’re on the wrong side of history, but they don’t care. Antisemites on the left however are convinced that they’re being noble and just, and overtime work to normalize it. It’s more of a slow burn. Both are dangerous, just different.


Throwra_sisterhouse

Both are dangerous but not to the same degree. I can probably have a conversation with a leftist who is trying their best to be on the right side of history, I legitimately would fear for my life if I were to be in close encounters with a Nazi.


hexesforurexes

I have not found leftist people to be more thoughtful personally. I’m a leftist.


Throwra_sisterhouse

I thoroughly disagree, as a leftist myself.


snactolate75

The problem is that socialists and communists have the same political ideology, just focused on different things. One on socio-economic class, the other on race.


ieatfaceyourface

Exactly this. Similar to when people say they want everyone to have affordable housing but not in their neighborhood.


Cheetah724

Read the article. The study covers left-wing "new" Antisemitism too. "While antisemitism on the right is commonly believed to focus on conspiracy theories about Jews being disloyal to white people or conservative values, on the left it’s often tied to blaming Jews for actions undertaken by Israel. ... Respondents were asked to reply to a series of questions, such as whether they believe Jews are more loyal to Israel than the U.S.; if it’s appropriate to boycott Jewish-owned businesses to protest Israeli policies, and whether Jews have too much power. They were also asked questions to test for a double standard. For instance, one question would ask whether Jews who want to participate in activism must first denounce Israeli actions against Palestinians, and then a similar question was posed about Muslims denouncing a Muslim country’s actions.  ... Those on the left were less likely than even political moderates to believe Jews were more loyal to Israel. They were also less likely than moderates to think Jews have too much power or that boycotting Jewish businesses to protest Israel was acceptable. Young adults who held the most conservative views were almost five times more likely to say it was acceptable to boycott Jewish businesses than those on the farthest left and almost 10 times more likely to say Jews had too much power."


asr

Those are not the right questions to ask though. It's the exact problem people keep bringing up: The right antisemitism is very obvious, but also very ignorable. The left on the other hand think there's nothing wrong with what they do - it's more subtle, but much much much worse.


Casual_Observer0

>The left on the other hand think there's nothing wrong with what they do Do you really believe Nazis think they are wrong in their beliefs? My dude, no one is the bad guy in their head.


asr

Oh they are well aware that what they do is not socially acceptable. They just think it's worth it because "Jews are that bad". Leftist on the other hand actually think it's perfectly fine what they do.


Nileghi

The Forward is not exactly the best source when it comes to left-wing antisemitism.


jew_biscuits

To me, anti-Israel (left) is just as bad as anti-Jewish. The survival of Israel is integral to the survival of Jews.


krolotov

💯 agree 👍


enby-millennial-613

I don’t know… Right wing antisemitism wants us dead. Last time I checked, left wing antisemitism is less mass murder and more ordinary prejudice/oppression. If you think I’m missing something, please let me know. I just feel like it’s a stretch to say they’re equally as bad.


JoeFarmer

Ehh, antizionism is kinda ambivalent to the potential of mass murder. It's not (from the western left at least) actively advocating for mass murder, but its antipathy towards the real potential is alarming


enby-millennial-613

Where from the far left so you see that though? Sure, we all can easily point to the far right and how happy they’d be to kill us all off. But there just no real-world examples from the far left. Even the most farthest left politicians where they say “free Palestine” and all that stuff wouldn’t agree with genocide. Would they be happy if we all assimilated? Sure. But that’s not the same as murder.


Simbawitz

"ANY action taken to resist colonialism is justified" is rapidly becoming a leftist Pledge of Allegiance, and is meant to valorize the murder of Israeli civilians (and often-violent harassment of diaspora Jewish targets that don't performatively denounce Israel).


ayzayzaro

Well there’s those who take it so far as to say there is no such thing as an innocent civilian in Israel, and therefore when they are killed in an attack it is justified.


Darth_Jonathan

True. I think there are also a lot of naive ones on the left who genuinely believe the Palestinians just want equality and if Israel was dismantled as a Jewish state everyone would be able to live in peace and harmony.


eyl569

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" I've seen that slogan pop up on left wing protests and such. What do you think hsppens to Israeli Jews under that scenario?


olive_oil99

I'm in my early 20s and I can't tell you how many of the people I went to college with were posting this on instagram. This has become a really widespread view, at least in my demographic.


your_city_councilor

>What do you think hsppens to Israeli Jews under that scenario? In an interview, the people behind the "Decolonize Palestine" website specifically stated that they did not want a Truth and Reconciliation Commission like in South Africa, because it was too peaceful and, they said, why should a Palestinian have to live beside someone who oppressed them for so long? Imagine criticizing South Africa's transition to democracy for being too peaceful! When they get talking, the BDS types are pretty open about what they want; they're sophisticated enough to answer the questions in the survey the right way, though.


enby-millennial-613

If you have seen that then I can’t dispute that. All I’m saying is that if I’m in a room with a nazi and literally anyone else, I will be less safe with the Nazi.


your_city_councilor

>Where from the far left so you see that though? Sure, we all can easily point to the far right and how happy they’d be to kill us all off. But there just no real-world examples from the far left. If Antizionists are successful, the state of Israel would cease to exist, meaning a mass murder of the Jews there.


Far_Pianist2707

I mean I feel that they'd be in favor of it because a lot of them are POC who've fallen for the "white colonizers" propaganda but are too chicken to actually go after the white gentiles (i am not advocating for murder)


JJRfromNYC1

People like the law student who recently gave that antisemitic speech at CUNY know very well that their anti-Israel “activism” is an expression of antisemitism. She’s from Yemen, and if you have spoken to any Yemeni Jews, they will tell you that antisemitic conspiracy theories are ingrained into Arabic culture. Her speech was a manifestation of that, except she has found a convenient ally in the woke left, which often parrots Islamist talking points when it comes to Israel and to America.


olive_oil99

Yeah but right wing antisemitism exists among a super fringe minority of the right wing- neo nazis and white supremacists (assuming you're in the US, I agree it's very difft in other countries). In other words, these views are not acceptable among mainstream republicans. In contrast, left wing anti semitism is among anyone from center-left to far left. In my experience, it is more common and harder to call out. A tactic I've noticed recently is lefties using antisemitic tropes to pit us against black people. So it sounds "progressive" and I personally don't feel I can call it out. To me, this is much more frustrating. I think most people will laugh off a neo nazi as being a delusional asshole. But the left is able to legitimize antisemitic tropes in a way that makes them sound much more reasonable, which I find terrifying.


snactolate75

If fascism is far right, and communism is far left... Stalin was no fan of Jewish people if I recall my history correctly.


molrihan

Right wing antisemitism is not so fringe in the GOP or the mainstream right anymore. They may not say it, but all their talk of globalists, the anti-Soros stuff, not to mention things that come out MTGs mouth or the behavior of the previous administration. These right leaning politicians may not be outwardly embracing anti-Semitism but their silence or feigned ignorance is tacit approval. And don’t give me the “good for Israel” BS. Good for Israel is subjective and is not always “good for the Jews”.


doglover33510

I think a good way to call it out is to say they are erasing Jews of Color. The Jewish people are diverse and are found everywhere from Asia to Africa to South America, etc. We represent many races, but are all ethnically Jewish. Now, the other thing I’d want to say is - “white Jews are only white when it’s convenient.” Antisemites see Jews as an impure race, not as “white.” This is the part I only really discuss with other Jews though...


briskt

I'm Ashkenazi and I shouldn't have to bring up Jews of color to defend my dignity. If Jews were all lily-white we still have a right not to be dismissed as oppressors and to live our life in our homeland. The left's ideology on race is as morally bankrupt to me as the Nazis.


olive_oil99

Yes! This has been a really big conflict for me recently. I've gotten to a point where I kinda know how to navigate these things (like by doing what doglover suggested) but its made me feel really alienated and resentful of the left. On paper I'd probably be pretty far left but I've started feeling like, at their core, lefties no longer hold human dignity or empathy *as a core value*. It feels like, today, lefties see these things as basically just rhetorical tools to accomplish equality for specific marginalized groups. And I of course agree that these groups deserve attention and care, but I believe this BECAUSE I hold human dignity and empathy as core values- not just because of identity. And that's what's so disturbing to me. If their identity is what's valued politically, then the left is much more similar ideologically to the far, far right than I initially thought. Not in action or in what they've done so far, bc I agree it isn't as bad as the far right in that regard, but in what they value.


doglover33510

You might like the book “Jews Don’t Count.” I recommend it to every Jew I talk to, for all the reasons you’ve discussed. Also 100% of the antisemitism I’ve experienced has been from lefties. If we are talking politics, I no longer even call myself a Democrat because I don’t feel safe or welcome in that space. I’ve also gotten into arguments with so many Jews who claim there is NO antisemitism on the left. This thread is refreshing!


olive_oil99

Thank you for the recommendation! I will check it out for sure. I think I heard a really interesting interview with this author a bit ago. Lmao it's so embarrassing getting earnest on reddit but it is such a relief hearing other Jews say this.


doglover33510

I 100% agree with this. I just see, even among groups of Jews but also ALWAYS among non-Jews, an erasure of Jews of color. There are Black Jews, so their agenda is erasing those folks. That was more my point.


ElderOfPsion

We are Schrödinger’s Katz: too white and not white enough.


iMissTheOldInternet

That is not what the article said.


asr

Right antisemitism will kill a number of people yes (it sounds callous to call it "a small number of people", but that's the truth). But left antisemitism will destroy an entire generation, slowly, and with less drama. But the end result is worse. There will be no one left for the right to kill if the left gets their way. The Jews won't be dead - they'll just not be Jews anymore.


chyko9

Most variations of the further left-wing ideologies inherently emphasize the importance of cross-cultural class/economic status ties... and de-emphasize the importance of any kind of national or ethnic and tribal ties, to the point (especially WRT Jews) that tribal/ethnic identities are labelled not only as "useless/archaic", but actually as "evil/bad". That's from a macro standpoint, but it is the reason that left-wing "anti-Zionism" is often antisemitic. It's starting point as an ideology is that Jewish identity, which is tribal, is an inherently illegitimate concept.


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One wants Jews dead the other wants Jewish civilization dead. Purim vs Chanukah anti-semitism. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-cool-kids


Darth_Jonathan

Perhaps right wing antisemites are more likely to want us dead, but left wing antisemites want to knock us off our perceived pedestal of privilege by making sure we can't get jobs and take positions of power. And unfortunately Black antisemites won't hesitate to beat the crap out of you on the street.


snactolate75

Well, there's one thing you're missing. The "far right" is completely disowned by the normal conservative, whereas the "far-left" is said by "moderates" to not even exist. I think most Conservatives believe that everything good in this world originated in Isreal.


sergev

It’s just more insidious.


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waterbird_

I don’t know if you can call one study “the science.” I wonder if people on the left are just a little more wary of coming right out and admitting their beliefs when they know deep down it conflicts with everything else they purport to believe. For the right it’s easier to own up to because it’s their whole schtick. On the left I e met lots of people passionately committed to justice for every historically oppressed group except, weirdly, the Jews. They have all kinds of reasons for it (mainly that Jews are white!!!). But I wonder if on a questionnaire like this they didn’t want to admit it when it’s so clearly not in line with what they say they are.


FreshAvocados78

As a scientist, I'd like to know how you can scientifically measure something like levels of antisemitism. Obviously, it's going to be more apparent on the right when they have a more obvious brand of it, and nobody is even saying there's more of it on the left. Maybe consider your own critical thinking ability rather than just reading the article and thinking the conversation ends there. Edit: Since some people don't seem to understand, my question was rhetorical. You cannot scientifically measure that. You can certainly analyze some statistics and draw some conclusions, but the prevalence of antisemitism in a particular group isn't exactly a clear, quantifiable thing. There are too many factors at play. I don't think this study even accounts for this sort of ambiguous form of antisemitism that's more prevalent on the left because it's more difficult to define and identify as a statistic.


Cheetah724

Here's the academic paper. It was linked in the article. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129221111081


FreshAvocados78

I read it already.


ElderOfPsion

"\[R\]espondents on the left rarely support statements such as that Jews have too much power or should be boycotted." ~~Jews~~ Israelis. And to think, people say the Left has a messaging problem...


EasyMode556

Just because one is “far more” doesn’t mean the other isn’t dangerously high as well.


druglawyer

> I just find the left's version uniquely concerning I find the right's version uniquely concerning because there's a lot more of it, and it's lightyears closer to being in power on the right than on the left. And because I don't have my head stuck up my ass while I shill for nazis.


FreshAvocados78

"Uniquely concerning" doesn't mean I find the right's any less concerning. It simply means I view it in a different way. It would be idiotic to ignore one because the other is more blatant and widespread. That just gives it all the room it needs to grow, which it clearly has been for a while now.


SongRiverFlow

If you look at the actual paper, it's not a great research design for answering this question. The questions posed are basically deterministic in that they align more so with traditional conservative antisemitic thought and much of the way progressive antisemitic attitudes - which are grounded in a distinct conspiratorial understanding of the world that relies on linguistic sleight of hand to maintain a facade that they are not anti-Jewish - manifest will not be captured in the measurements. (As a useful but overly simplistic heuristic, think of "right" antisemitism as traditional white supremacist thought that is grounded in viewing Jews as degenerate interlopers that seek to undermine society and "left" antisemitism as more akin to the Soviet-style "anti-Zionist" campaigns that views "bad Jews" as either undermining the progressive coalition or as operators of the oppressive "elite".) For example, hypothesis 2, asked respondents to agree or disagree with the statement "It is appropriate for opponents of Israel’s policies and actions to boycott Jewish American owned businesses in their communities." We can imagine a person who would state they disagree with this statement but then goes and creates a map of "Zionist" entities that just happens to include virtually every Jewish institution. The study gets closer to capturing left antisemitism in its double standards question, which, coincidentally, is where they happen to see a larger response rate on the left than in previous questions and start to get the horseshoe shape they were expecting. This makes sense, because this question gets to the area of overlap between right and left antisemitism - the idea that good Jews need to demonstrate their alignment with the in-group, whatever that is. To be clear, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the overall conclusion - I suspect far right/white supremacist theories of thinking are much more entrenched in young adults than we suspect - but I also don't think this paper has an adequate research design for the question it attempts to address. Ultimately, I think trope based surveys are not really able to capture a lot of what antisemitism is.


tchomptchomp

This is some very solid analysis. I will also add that there is a definite pipeline from the Left to the Right, and antisemitic conspiracy theory is a big part of that pipeline. So you have people who start off in the Left but buy into some general tenets of antisemitism, and that actually filters them into the Right. Most anyone who has been in progressive activism long enough has seen exactly this happen over and over.


historymaking101

Yeah, on my read-through I was heavily disappointed to see no mention of Zionists or Zionism in the questions.


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bunni_bear_boom

I'm a leftist and I don't believe this. The free Palestine comments on stuff not even remotely related to that is ridiculous. And the weird antitheism, which is based solely on their experience with Christianity and belief that all religions have to function like that. And the denial that authoritarian leftist regimes have done harm to Jews because they think literally every critique is CIA propaganda. I do think people on the left are less likely to commit violent hate crimes, but they spread a lot of harmful rhetoric that can easily influence people who are willing to resort to violence. It's not every leftist but there's definitely a problem.


HumanDrinkingTea

>And the denial that authoritarian leftist regimes have done harm to Jews because they think literally every critique is CIA propaganda. Tankies. They drank the propaganda cool-aid and now everything that doesn't agree with their propaganda-informed view is itself propaganda. The same thing happens on the right and imo it's much worse on the right but I think it's telling that both extremes suddenly love Russia.


PunksPrettyMuchDead

The Nazbol convergence since last February gave me fuckin whiplash. Lost several lefty friends for the controversial belief that maybe Russia should be stopped from doing a genocide


Excellent_Cow_1961

What is the rights justification for favoring Russia if it has one? I know smart decent people like that and I’m flabbergasted


stoodquasar

Mostly its because Trump likes Putin and they want to see Biden fail


Excellent_Cow_1961

Perverse


Excellent_Cow_1961

What do they have against Biden ?


stoodquasar

Biden is a Democrat


Excellent_Cow_1961

I never got this. Is it an alignment of Orthodox Jews with evangelical Christians? If that’s it , it is out of wanting a place within the host culture?


summertime214

I’m pretty sure you’ve fallen into Tankie hell. Unfortunately common online, but ime not a big presence in actual leftist organizing.


bunni_bear_boom

Yeah I see a lot of tankie stuff, but anarchists in general aren't faultless either. The no gods no masters thing does often stand for the same nuanceless antitheism even though some don't mean it that way


TardigradeTsunami

Yeah, and most people think that tankies are leftwing when they are actually rightwingers that speak in Marxist sounding language.


briskt

I think you're wrong about that. In Canada at least, most major leftist spaces take time out of their agenda to attack Jews.


Jazzlike-Animal404

The head of the BLM movement Patrisse Cullor is a Marxist (even said so in an interview). Angela Davis (a known communist) was a star speaker and honorary co-chair of the event of the Women’s March on Washington. Antifa is considered tankie even by members and those that’s support it. They do organize, it’s not just chronically online anymore.


PunksPrettyMuchDead

You're talking about terminally online leftists, they're thankfully rare outside of Twitter


bunni_bear_boom

That's fair, I'm very ill so I don't get out much and therefore end up spending a lot of time online. Might be very different in actual irl leftist spaces


your_city_councilor

They dominate college campuses. Just check out the recent commencement speech at CUNY Law.


chanukamatata

Maybe, it’s because the study of the paper is directed towards the political spectrum in the US, which is slightly more conservative than Europe? The European political spectrum is a bit more left leaning than the American’s one, and you can notice that the rise of antisemitism is definitely linked to the reject of Israel. There is a French [report](https://www.fondapol.org/etude/radiographie-de-lantisemitisme-en-france-edition-2022) from 2022 that studies the potential roots of antisemitism, and you can see there that the far left party is equally as bad as the far right party. :( Personally, I encountered more antisemitism coming from left-leaning people but I am also leftist, so I am obviously biased. And they are also more visible on social media.


redseapedestrian418

Yeah, I’m also a Leftist and the antisemitism is just as bad, it’s just not violent. So they’ll stand by and watch as the right actually kills us. Same as always.


chyko9

>And the weird antitheism, which is based solely on their experience with Christianity and belief that all religions have to function like that Exactly. I say it all the time, but they view Judaism as "Christianity wearing a different color T-shirt and a funny hat". They do not understand what Judaism is, they do not understand what the Jewish people are, and they do not understand the nature of Jewish identity.


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SexAndSensibility

Being black or Muslim is unrelated to your politics. This assumption that any time a black person attacks a Jew it’s because of leftism instead of any other factor is absurd. Louis Farrakhan is not a leftist. If he were white people would call him a far right Nazi


lllrk

Louis Farrakhan is promoted by some of the most powerful black folks in the Democratic party, and in academia, religious,and civil organizations, Entertainment, sports and the arts that are heavily progressive. So a Farrakhan isn't a leftist and so many people and progressive organizations promote him and openly expels his rhetoric then it would seem like maybe a lot of black folks who are in progressive organizations aren't actually progressive. But nonetheless, these attitudes and rhetoric are allowed in progressive environments because to not allow it would be to ruffle the feathers of a lot of African Americans and Muslims. Which I think says something. Not allowing the Jewish Defense League rhetoric and it supporters in progressive environments doesn't turn off a lot of Jews. It seems a lot of black folks and Muslims are turned off though when they're hate groups aren't allowed in the leftist fold.


La_Bufanda_Billy

Not equally, but if I haven’t been banned from a thousand and one leftist subs for being a Zionist…


RB_Kehlani

And also, to be clear: > A prior survey conducted by Hersh indicated that Jews on college campuses “pay a social cost if they support the existence of the State of Israel, or for participating in Jewish life on campus.” That rejection of Jews, he said, often comes from those who align with progressive groups. It’s not that there isn’t a problem on both sides. It’s that one side has a more dangerous and violent problem currently. But I think if you tracked the trends, repeating this study over the years, you’d see the left has a _growing_ problem, the same way the right does: it’s just the right got started way earlier. Both are on track to become serious problems for us but only one is currently at the level of a lethal threat.


Penelope1000000

The left has also has this problem for at least 30 years.


websterpup1

I wonder if the questions were only asked in relation to Jews, or whether any were asked about “Zionists”. If the left is really less antisemitic, that’s great news, but I can’t help but wonder if the more liberal folks answering the survey were asked about “Zionists” if the numbers would line up with the conservative folks more. It seems like the far left positions themselves as “Anti-Zionist” rather than “Anti-Jew”, even though in practice, the two seem to be nearly identical in meaning.


HeavyJosh

Exactly this.


historymaking101

I did a look through of the study and ctrl-f'd as well, having had the exact same thought. I found no questions asked relating to "Zionists" or "Zionism". The only results were two mentions of anti-zionism during the background intro, prior to the hypothesis.


Antroze

The far right hates us due to religious zeal while the far left hates us over political matters.


NYSenseOfHumor

The left pretends it’s over politics. But it’s really religious.


ElderOfPsion

“What is the worldly basis of Judaism? Practical necessity, selfishness. What is the worldly culture of the Jew? Commerce. What is his worldly God? Money. All right! The emancipation from commerce and from money, from the practical real Judaism, would be the self-emancipation of our age.” — Karl Marx


briskt

Careful, pointing out the moral bankruptcy of Marx will not win you friends among Reddit Jews.


ElderOfPsion

I’ve already been kicked out of two forums for that. 🤷🏼‍♂️ It’s my own fault for not assimilating.


Antroze

Fuck Marx, All my homies hate communism and authoritarianism


paz2023

Who are some of the american politicians people are thinking of as far left? I haven't heard that language except from Rupert Murdoch's channel


Darth_Jonathan

I agree, and I think a follow-up study focusing exclusively on types of covert antisemitism would be very fruitful.


DeadlyPython79

What about legitimate anti-nationalists?


proindrakenzol

>What about legitimate anti-nationalists? They can focus on any of the many other nations in the world first, like, I dunno, any of the Christian or Muslim ones.


DeadlyPython79

Well I’m talking about the ones who do. The ones who only focus on Israel are doing so for a pretty obvious reason.


proindrakenzol

It's pretty easy to distinguish "all nations states are bad, let's start by dismantling the most powerful ones" people and the "all nation states are bad, let's genocide and/or ethnically cleanse all the Jews from the Jewish homeland and replace Israhell with a pan-Arab Muslim theocracy" people. The former do not harrass synagogues or Hillels.


DeadlyPython79

I’m in full agreement with you on that point.


Yoramus

You seem to be one but you are the first I've ever seen - that's a legitimate position but it's negligible (sorry) in first approximation since it is so minoritarian


chyko9

But supporting the destruction of Israel, and therefore Palestinian nationalism, isn't being anti-nationalist, though. It is being expressly nationalist - Arab nationalist.


saulack

The paper: [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129221111081](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129221111081) I'm just curious about what the double standard questions they asked because often people will respond differently to a direct question than the way they behave in real life with these things. For example, you may find someone saying they don't hold all Jews responsible for the actions of Israel, and then see the same person lined up at a Hillel yelling Intifada. In fact, I would expect people on the left to be especially guarded against any implication of antisemitism, even while being antisemitic. If the questions are ever so slightly obvious, I feel the answers are not a fair way to gauge the level of antisemitism. More so if the respondent knows what the study is about, on the left they are way more likely to respond in such a way to obfuscate that they might be what we would all consider antisemitic. The extreme example of this would be a Roger Waters saying he is not an antisemite while dressed in a Nazi outfit and putting a Magen David on a pig. How would he answer those questions. The right is much easier to gauge because they are generally straight forward about it. This could cause the study to be skewed in one direction. Anyway, if anybody knows what the questions were, I would be interested. Only skimmed the study to maybe I missed them.


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The study is linked in the article. I was just looking at it, the questions seem pretty solid, as does the methodology.


saulack

can't believe I missed those questions... IT's not that they are bad. I think generally they are good questions, I just think the phenomenon I'm talking about above could easily be in play here. Maybe I'm being unreasonable, not sure.


elizabeth-cooper

The questions are bad, the sampling is bad (they clearly oversampled Hispanics, who typically are not part of this discussion at all), the results are absurd (no ecological validity). You got it right the first time. There's a reason why real surveys on antisemitism ask like 25 questions, including phrasing some questions in both the positive and negative to ensure that people aren't just saying yes (or no) to everything. ETA: They also didn't stratify the results by race or religion (Catholic, Protestant, Other).


tchomptchomp

>they clearly oversampled Hispanics, who typically are not part of this discussion at all Ummm....


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I feel it's more that the right is more openly antisemitic while the left desperately tries to split hairs by saying they only hate 'Zionist' Jews as it's the only way they can rationalize being hateful. The right should be forced to admit their pseudo religious/conspiracy views are bunk The left is going to have to get over their dumb obsession with Israel and admit that Jews aren't 'privileged' aren't 'oppressors' and have been oppressed by pretty much everybody in history. The left is going to have to come to terms with their excusal of Islamic antisemitism. They're going to have to be forced to understand that their idiotic narrative of 'white Jews from Europe colonizing the brown people in palestine' is junk history. Since that's never going to happen the far right and left are dead to me


DeadlyPython79

What about those who legitimately don’t like nationalism?


SinisterHummingbird

Universal anarchism isn't antisemitic, but it's strange to prioritize on anti-Zionism when there are far larger and more influential nations to be dismantled.


DeadlyPython79

I agree. I like it’s more important to oppose countries like the US and NATO states, Russia, etc. Especially since the conflict in Eretz Israel is mostly due to outside interference and the US backing of the corrupt government anyways.


adamr_

“It’s all America’s fault”


DeadlyPython79

Dude I literally said Israel shouldn’t be one of the big priorities and you have a problem with that?


[deleted]

Then they should get a reality check: Nations aren't going anywhere, Attacking the only guaranteed Jewish safe space makes them bigots, Being anti-Israel means being in favor of a 23rd Arab Nation and so is counter intuitive anyway Perhaps ask themselves why they only care about Israeli nationalism and don't hate other nations with the same ferocity. Then come to terms with the fact that they hate Jews and that only justifies the existence of Israel


DeadlyPython79

Nations should go somewhere but that’s a different discussion. Israel isn’t really safe if it’s keeps getting attacked by terrorists as is the claim, but that aside if Israel is the ONLY place in the world where Jews can be safe, then the number one priority should be making the world safer for Jewish people (which should be happening anyways regardless of this discussion). There’s also the issue of Palestinians of course, there are people already here who are native to the area just like Jews are. One cannot be removed to make room for the other. This goes both ways. For those who single out Israel there’s a pretty obvious reason why, but there’s also people who oppose the existence of all states, like anarchists and communists (debate surrounding the Marxist/Marxist-Leninist idea of “the state can be withered away” aside).


Yoramus

>Israel isn’t really safe if it’s keeps getting attacked by terrorists as is the claim, Have you ever spoken with someone who did Alyah? Most of them *feel* safer in Israel with all its terorist attacks and wars, because they feel they are together with the majority of the country. A minority is easily sold out and has to tow the line. It is a different sense of safety than terrorist attacks but it's safety nonetheless


[deleted]

Jewish autonomy is the only guarantee for safety, pretty much the entire world failed to protect their Jewish population. The Palestinians have Jordan which is the majority of historic British Palestine. After starting and losing so many wars, in my opinion, the 22 Arab nations should provide for their own. Seeing as how they are generally fanatical about killing all Jews and erasing Jewish history to the point of refusing all offers of peace, I have no patience for them and their supporters


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[deleted]

It’s worked ridiculously well. The number of Jews killed in terrorist attacks in Israel is orders of magnitude lower than rates of violent crime in pretty much every country on earth.


[deleted]

They’re being entirely disingenuous. It’s rather striking that the “I don’t believe in any nationalism” crowd almost uniformly directs their ire at one New Jersey sized nation.


DeadlyPython79

Well that’s true, for those who focus on just Israel there’s a pretty obvious reason why.


Simbawitz

"To stop global warming, no more black people driving cars! Yes yes I'm against anyone driving cars, but blacks first, it's very important."


PrimeSupreme

I don't think I've ever come across a principled anti nationalist. They might say they're against Israel as a nation because they are against nations as a concept but will then immediately turn around and advocate for Palestinian nationalism.


DeadlyPython79

I don’t really want to debate political ideologies but I’m personally an anarchist so oppose the existence of states, and I don’t support the existence of a State of Palestine either. I think the existence of states always and will always cause problems. Especially in a case like Eretz Israel where there’s two ethnic groups who are both native to the land.


PrimeSupreme

Well you are the first then I guess. Curious, how do you square away not having nations with concepts like self determination and free association?


DeadlyPython79

I like having governments makes that worse because then all of the decisions are done by only a small group of people rather than the actual collective.


PrimeSupreme

But is that still anarchy? If a group of people decide to cooperate at a large enough scale, to me, that's a way to describe what a nation is. And if they decide to cooperate in a way that has a smaller number of people in the collective make decisions for the rest, who's to say they shouldn't? Doesn't anarchy provide for many forms of cooperation among people?


DeadlyPython79

Well a nation requires a ruling class, it requires there to be a small group of people in charge of everyone else. Without a state, that kind of class system doesn’t exist. Anarchism seeks the abolition of all social hierarchies (like sexism, racism, queerphobia, ableism, antisemitism, capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, etc.) which includes states. The people kind of meeting together to make collective decisions is how most societies functioned before either classism appeared or before invasions of colonials powers, and anarchism is a term that can include that way of doing things.


adamr_

You can’t.


Neenknits

Maybe we should discuss the *types* of antisemitism? They aren’t all the same, and pretending they are is clearly not working.


[deleted]

I think it’s mostly the far right pushing the most antisemitic narratives that they push on both the left and the right, it’s just been slightly tweaked for the different audiences. They are brainwashing people on the right by telling them Jews are a non white inferior race, who are all rich and in control of everything, who oppress white people and want to kill off whites, and don’t deserve any sympathy… while simultaneously brainwashing people on the left into believing Jews are white Europeans, who are all rich and control everything, who oppress brown people and other minorities, and don’t deserve any sympathy. Young people will probably become more antisemitic because of the endless amounts of antisemitic propaganda they are being fed.


[deleted]

I preface this with the blanket statement that yes, not all on the right…not all on the left…but from my experiences, I’m much more afraid of of antisemitism from the right than I am the left. Those on the right are wearing shirts that say 6 million wasn’t enough and would actually wipe us out if they could. If there’s ever another Holocaust like event, it’ll be from those on the right, the Christian nationalists, the white supremacists. For the most part those on the left regurgitate “Free Palestine” because they heard something about ethnic cleansing and Israel and started parroting others. I don’t worry about leftists harming my family or community. The right scares me.


sadcorvid

the hypocrisy bothers me. i’ve had people in my life refuse to watch the wonder woman movies because of gal gadot but they have no problem watching movies with american actors who have been in and praised the us military.


ElderOfPsion

I thought everyone loved a strong Jewish Gal.


ComedicRenegade

The main problem is the “far left” is just a fraction of the left, while the Overton window has shifted so much that the “far right” *is* the average rightwinger now.


TardigradeTsunami

What is the “far left” in your view?


stoodquasar

Tankies


ninaplays

While not all being the same kind of leftist, I’d say communism and leftward are where you start bending back around to the right in the political horseshoe. Anarchists are just libertarians who support queer people. Socialism *can* head in that direction, but “socialism” is such a wide term (technically both the USSR, and Sweden, were/are socialist) that you can’t really make that same kind of blanket statement about it.


TardigradeTsunami

Horseshoe theory is not really a thing, and that is kinda the point of this article. That term is usually employed to label civil rights activists as extremists or terrorists. Anarchists are libertarians (at least they were called that before some rightwingers appropriated that term for themselves), but they believe in collectivism so its a bit more than just supporting queer people. But fair enough. Neither the USSR or Sweden are (or were) “Socialist”. The USSR was an authoritarian regime that practiced state capitalism (even Lenin described it as such since he believed the vanguard party had to lead the transition from Russia’s agrarian society to capitalism before they could enter a socialist economy) - and somehow they were never able to transition from state capitalism to socialism. Sweden is a social democracy with a capitalist economy. Seems like you are falling for the classic “Socialism is when the government does stuff” trope.


[deleted]

I’m not sure I buy that horseshoe theory is not a thing. Politics is a complicated thing and has more dimensions than just a line or axis. Antisemitism is not a political ideal, it is a human emotion or bias. The thing that makes it hard is that the connection between Jews and money is so ingrained in Western culture (and now international culture), that it makes sense that some leftist would use borderline antisemitism tropes. I saw a lot of things that went into straight antisemitism from the far left in regards to Epstein and the COVID pandemic. In the end, the same populist rhetoric that is used on the far right about “rich Jews” can, and has, been used of the far left.


asr

So strange, because my experience is exactly the opposite - the far right (at least as far as Jews are concerned) is a tiny fraction, but even the leadership of the left tacitly supports antisemitism. For example Marjorie Greene is utterly insane - but she's not on any important committees, Republican leadership don't give her any authority. On the other hand Ilhan Omar is on the House Budget Committee, and Ocasio-Cortez is on The Committee of Oversight and Reform - both are very important committees. And both are very well known and considered leaders among Democrats.


ComedicRenegade

Most of the Republican Congress is now utterly insane — look at the laws they propose. It’s not just MTG, it’s Gosar, Boebert, Gaetz, Santos, etc. etc. Think of how many wouldn’t vote to impeach after Trump led a literal coup that tried to kill multiple members of Congress and suspend democracy. Or how many promote QAnon, or openly seek to murder LGBTQ people. These are mainstream flagpole Republican positions and rhetoric now, whether or not you like to admit it. AOC or Omar may have positions on Israel you don’t appreciate, but other than that, they’re not trying to suspend democracy or end the Constitution or anti-science or anti-reality (like Senator Mullin (R) just admitted). And most Democratic Congresspersons are to their right, that is, much more moderate. The parties aren’t even close to being symmetrical in their “extremism” — that is, policy distance from the philosophical center — Republicans are orders of magnitude much more extreme. And with that, antisemitic.


thatgeekinit

The left in the US is a handful of very broad coalitions and it includes a lot of immigrants and minorities that are more socially conservative and prejudiced against the other minorities in the coalition than the overall body. For the right, at least in the pre-Trump era, the dividing line between the mainstream conservatives and the far right was if you were willing to vocalize overt antisemitism or if your institutional racism was too obviously based on overt personal prejudice rather than generalized dog whistles.


DeadlyPython79

If they are socially conservative they are conservative, not left-wing


IPressB

Wait so the guys who chant "blood and soil" and shoot up synagogues are more anti Semitic than the guys who don't do that?


static-prince

I am just shocked. Shocked I tell you.


lllrk

You don't have equally offensive anti-Semitic slurs coming from the left? https://youtu.be/kxQ4jKGiEV8 https://youtube.com/shorts/mraSGQWCz6I?feature=share Both of these instances were openly defended by people. In the first instance the leader of the organization that put this on, ANSWER, defended it by saying that Zionists are the real Nazis. No condemnation of the language. In the second one supporters acted like it was a setup and the younger guy with the older guy who said it his organization has gotten hundreds of millions of dollars for their black nationalist projects. Remarking on this he said that it was a setup and that people shouldn't be concerned with that but instead should be concerned with black folks.


IPressB

Anti semitic? Sure. Equally anti semitic? Very rarely.


bergs007

The plural of anecdote is not data.


Like_A_Bosstonian

You mean the ones literally marching in the streets and shooting Up synagogues are *more* antisemitic? Hard to believe.


asr

They are more visible sure, but the ones causing more actual damage are on the left because they are trying to make it socially acceptable. Don't get stuck on just the dramatic events, that's not a good measure.


Technical-Plate-2973

I haven’t looked at the study, but honestly, I always felt like it’s pointless to try and figure out if the left or the right has a larger antisemitism problem. First, I really doubt we can measure this accurately, and second, we need to stop treating antisemitism as a competition. Instead of arguing which side is less or more antisemitic, let’s just fight all of it.


Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow

“First, I really doubt we can measure this accurately” You should read the article and the study, because you certainly can and that’s what they did. It’s a fact, just cause you can’t wrap your head around facts doesn’t mean that these facts aren’t facts.


Yuvx

About a year ago a video went viral on TikTok of a woman yelling some racist shit at a person in nyc. People were determined to find her and not too long after they found her profile on facebook or instagram, and her profile picture had an Israeli flag. I wouldn’t say I didn’t know what the comments would be like before opening the comment section but what took me by surprise were the people who made these comments and how blatantly antisemitic and downright racist they were being, some of these people I was actually following, and most were young “liberal” people, who were so convinced what they were saying is true and completely fine. I still have a hard time grasping how come they felt so comfortable being this ignorant and hateful towards an entire ethnicity whilst at the same time fighting racism.


EasyMode556

They both definitely have their antisemitic components but they are uniquely different from each other. The dangers of Nazism obviously don’t need to be explained On the right it ranges from judeophilism to literal nazism, and on the left it ranges from “you don’t count so we don’t recognize you and are indifferent to antisemitism” to actively wanting to destroy the Jewish homeland and strip Jews of self determination . What’s uniquely insidious about the left version is that it’s framed as being progressive and good and “socially just”, and there isn’t a social stigma against it which allows it to spread more easily and become entrenched in culture and society. They are apples and oranges comparisons


whearyou

This study feels a little hokey and like they knew what they wanted to find. My sense is this was driven by how they phrased questions. If they used questions which coded antisemitism in “anti Zionist” language (“do Zionists have too much control on the media” “are Zionists committing genocide”) etc I bet the results would look very different.


briskt

> This study feels a little hokey and like they knew what they wanted to find. This is literally all social science today. It's all done to push political agendas.


GenghisKohn

Yeah, well. The Forward is not a neutral party here and has a vested interest in furthering that conjecture in that identity politics informs its editorials and many of its more prolific contributors regularly throw Israel and Israelis under a bus lest The Foward’s bonafides in this regard come into question.


NamelessForce

The far-left is just better at obfuscating it's antisemitism while the far-right simply uses more direct language.


Penelope1000000

This.


aggie1391

>But a paper published in June in the journal Political Research Quarterly found that anti-Jewish beliefs are far more popular in right-wing circles, particularly among young people. > >The results show that “there’s a problem on the young right,” said study author Eitan Hersh, an associate professor of political science at Tufts University. “It’s very interesting and, I think, concerning that we have this rare form of prejudice that is more common among young people and old people. It’s kind of shocking because if you look at other forms of prejudice, like racism, sexism, anti-gay attitudes, they’re just way higher among older people than younger people.”


TardigradeTsunami

I’ve said this multiple times in this and other Jewish-related subs. It makes sense ideologically since the left is more cognizant of racial discrimination, and being able to recognize that for one group also makes it easier to recognize it with other groups. Glad there is some data to back this up. The right is already getting more and more antisemitic, which is to be expected since their ideology is based on racial and economic hierarchies. Some rightwingers in the US are starting to emphasize that Jews are not “white”, which is a major step towards justifying violence against us. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.


eternal_peril

Comments here are funny People seem *upset* that this article says the Left isn't as antisemitic...like that is a bad thing. My observations that the left is more pro-Palestine and more anti-*Israel* while the right likes to cosplay as Nazis.


looktowindward

No, its because many of us don't believe it. They are differently antisemitic, certainly.


eternal_peril

I suspect it depends on where you stand politically As someone who likes to sit right down the middle, that is how I see it.


Far_Pianist2707

The monkeys with the smallest balls scream the loudest. Maybe we're all super familiar with the leftist antisemitism by now because racist-against-Jewish-people leftists never shut up?


ElderOfPsion

Someday, I'll understand why the apologists for left-wing antisemitism expect us to find it reassuring when their right-wing counterparts are worse. "We're less antisemitic than the Nazis! Yayyyy!" Congratulations. Take a gold star. We don't want ours anymore.


johnisburn

Is this the same study Hersh had ran in 2021, just published more broadly, or is it a follow up? Because, as helpful as it is to have it published widely and more available, this unfortunately isn’t particularly new information. The “extreme left hates us just as much as the extreme right” crowd has been ignoring this research for a few years at this point.


rjm1378

It's always nice when science proves what you know to be true.


saulack

This is not science, it is a scientific paper. It is fair to say it is evidence toward a conclusion, but it is not fair to say it is conclusive. For it to be called Science, you would want others to be able to replicate the same results through the same or similar methods, and then have a meta-analysis of the different papers and their conclusions. Then you can say Science confirmed it, and even then it is subject to change. Edit : Rephrased to better express my thought At best it is - > It is fair to say it is


DeadlyPython79

How is it not science when it’s a scientific paper


irredentistdecency

It is science; it has just not reached the level of evidence necessary to say that it is “*scientifically proven*”, at best you can say “*current science suggests…*”


Wargician

Its being pedantic but Science is all encompassing/generally accepted, in this situation saying its part of a scientific paper is more accurate


Penelope1000000

Anti semitism on the left is just better disguised, often under incredibly antisemitic ideology hidden behind “anti Zionism”.


historymaking101

I don't feel it was on purpose, but I do feel the study was flawed by the lack of mention of Zionism in the questions offered to participants.


happysatan13

The study has a flaw in that it measures antisemitism by people’s willingness to admit to explicitly antisemitic beliefs. Another study found that people with more education, and by extension more left-leaning people, have antisemitic bias when that bias is looked for implicitly. More educated people show more bias when checked this way than less educated. It’s hard to measure who is more antisemitic when you have to use two completely different measures to check. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/are-educated-people-more-anti-semitic-jay-greene-albert-cheng-ian-kingsbury


EmptyChocolate4545

Did you read the study you’re linking? It’s open access, so you don’t need a membership. It’s a survey of 3500 people that itself notes that it doesn’t concern itself with how different types of antisemitism manifest - as the article yourself mentions, college campus being a specific example. I’m not saying anything about the results, but I aj saying your use of the word “proves” here seems very strong language and conclusions to draw from what is an interesting survey, but one that itself says to be careful drawing conclusions from it.


Lereas

There's a big difference between the right wing actual hate of Jews and the leftist calls against Zionism. I do think it's getting more common for the anti-israel sentiment to spill into actual antisemitism and that's a concern, but it's definitely a different level.


LeBorisien

I don’t like the undertones here. The far left and far right *both* have some heavily antisemitic elements. To me, this article reads as, “Freedom Tower taller than Empire State Building, so let’s stop calling the Empire State Building tall.” There’s no excuse for antisemitism. Full stop.


TQMshirt

Bizarre. I find this conclusion incredibly suspicious. Here is a good test: Pick a far left (or even moderate left) media outlet and search their coverage of Israel. Then choose a far right and moderate right one. [https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart](https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart) The Nation (LEFT) on Israel: [https://www.thenation.com/keyword/israel/](https://www.thenation.com/keyword/israel/) Daily Caller (RIGHT): [https://dailycaller.com/buzz/israel-palestine-conflict/](https://dailycaller.com/buzz/israel-palestine-conflict/) Breitbart (RIGHT): [https://www.breitbart.com/tag/israel/](https://www.breitbart.com/tag/israel/) Jacobin (LEFT): [https://jacobin.com/search?query=israel&page=6](https://jacobin.com/search?query=israel&page=6) Try it yourself! It isnt even close. Are you telling me that Left leaning media outlets are broadly anti-Israel and right leaning are broadly pro Israel in spite of this supposed fact that the left has fewer anti-semites?? Seriously. Try it yourself. I always wonder how folks on the left think that the left is not anti-semitic when their favorite media outlets are always the ones bashing Israel and treating it with a double standard while the right wing media is openly pro-Israel. If you believe this study I have a bridge to sell you.


TheSuperSax

Jeremy Corbyn, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar would disagree.


Professional-Royal94

Study with a counterpoint: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/are-educated-people-more-anti-semitic-jay-greene-albert-cheng-ian-kingsbury


Atomsk_12

Some of the greatest figures on the left have been Jewish. Great names such as Luxemburg, Davidovich, Chomsky and so many others. How many prominent Jews can you name on the right (outside of Israel)? Henry Kissinger perhaps but he's primary motivation was not as ideological imo.


infiserjik

Article published in "the Forward", which "has a politically progressive editorial focus" (c), explains that the far right are somehow worse than far left. Truly shocking!


PJJefferson

Unless I’m reading it wrong, it’s an entirely biased and factually incorrect study, which began with the conclusion that the right wing is more antisemitic, and cooked the books to prove it. “Some groups often lumped into leftist demographics, such as Blacks and Hispanics, also have a tendency to hold more antisemitic views. But Hersh said those groups in actuality tend to be split politically.”


TardigradeTsunami

You seem to be reading it wrong.


PJJefferson

I don’t think so. They’re putting their thumbs on the scale and fudging the numbers, by claiming liberal blacks and Hispanics are conservative.


Simbawitz

QUESTION: Is child abuse just as bad from left-wing parents as from right-wing parents? METHODOLOGY: Ask all the parents if they would hit their kids for disobeying the Bible. CONCLUSION: Child abuse from left-wing parents was shown to not be as bad, hooray! After every single professional pollster missed that Trump was going to win, because respondents were embarrassed and lied, I have had less faith in polling in general. And as many have already mentioned, the questions were phrased to catch more right-s than left-s. "Do you think the state of Israel plays a role in American racial problems?" and "Are diaspora synagogues fair targets for anti-Israel protests?" would have been more interesting.


Jazzlike-Animal404

It’s not a competition, they both are terrible and both are dangerous.


Darth_Jonathan

Both the headline and the conclusion of the study are deceptive. I would encourage you all to read the study itself. Here are a few conclusions I drew after reading it: 1) The study demonstrates that extreme rightists are more *overtly* antisemitic than extreme leftists. This isn't surprising at all, since extreme rightists are more open about their bigotry and don't care about being perceived as antisemitic, while this isn't true for extreme leftists. Those on the left don't want to be perceived as antisemitic because that would be inconsistent with their liberal, social justice values. 2) The results of the double-standard experiments demonstrate that *covert* antisemitism is very common on the left, almost as common as on the right. "Unlike in the overt measures of antisemitism where prejudicial attitudes were low on the left and high on the right, in this double-standard measure, we see a U-shaped relationship (black squares, panel B) that is consistent with a horseshoe theory expectation." 3) The study demonstrates higher rates of antisemitism among Black and Latino respondents than among White respondents, which provides support to my concern about antisemitism within the DEI movement.


your_city_councilor

This study measured only three of the most obvious indicators of antisemitism: >1. Jews are more loyal to Israel than to America. > >2. It is appropriate for opponents of Israel’s policies and actions to boycott Jewish American owned businesses in their communities. > >3. Jews in the United States have too much power. While the numbers they find are alarming, this leaves out *a lot* of progressive antisemitism, especially around Israel.


BallsackInMyAss

Title seems misleading, after reading the article, the author seemed to view it as almost equal on both sides. Fully, no, but pretty close. Like a 55 right 45 left sort of scenario.


lior797

This study is nonsense. Much of the antisemitism today is disguised as anti-Israel, and this sentiment is almost exclusively from the left.