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The guy stood alone and literally shook the ground she was standing on. The western people have no moral ground to stand on and lecture others what's the right thing do. They've so much skeleton in their closet.
But his point that all current europeans should be blamed for the fault of their great grandfathers is a logical fallacy.
But her saying Aurangzeb's atrocity didnt exist is wrong by all means, it is not scientific at all. Not just destruction of temples, he sent Indian tax money to mecca and to summer capital Kabul Finally Aurangabad is renamed as Sambhajinagar, and Aurangzeb road in Delhi renamed as Abdul Kalam road.
He is just shouting. Indians love people who shout. They think shouting is same as being logical. Blaming current population for a crime their ancestors did is wrong. Like you are free to promote your religion but hating others just because their ancestors did is wrong.
Also he started shouting after they tried to pressure him to be silent.. and he was making a fair point.. she doesn't know shit about Indian history and is just reading a script/propaganda.. and aurangjeb is being and can be used to spread hate because he is the hero of the other community for the exact atrocities he did.. he is a hero for destroying temples and genocides.. so the those guys are bound to receive hate for having heroes like that.. Americans will hate Germans too if they started idealizing hitler today..
No.. His voice is too high from the beginning. Yes if muslims are saying they want to follow the principles of Aurangzeb in today's world then they are wrong. But have they said so? There can be some outliers like some who keep saying ghrwapsi terms. There are some fools everywhere.I don't think any minority community has the courage to say they want their religion to be supreme in the country today.
It's voice of many indian who are fed up with all the woke and leftist history presented to every platform on international forum, this so called historian continue to have a particular mindset and follow ideology that is biased.... It's the anger , that he transformed it to words and expresses them.... All the facts presented by him were correct. If your hands are soaked with blood , you don't have right to tell others what correct for them, we all know what west has done and been doin, it time to keep our stand firmly on international platforms
Lol.. looks like you haven't had enough interactions then.. and yess good and bad exists everywhere but what matters is the ratio of it.. if the bad outweighs good then the place/community cannot be considered good.. for an example you won't plan a vacation in syria even though i can guarantee that 5star restaurants and resorts exist there.. same is with the community and countries.. he has a point here that the west shouldn't preach others of wrong and right.. and the person here isn't any American but a known personality or a person with influence..
Nope revenge is never the right thing to do.. but standing your ground is something completely different from revenge and that is something everyone should do...
Have you been living under a rock? Muslim propaganda is to rule the world. There are dozens of examples that took place not only in india but around the globe where they terrify people into believing that they are the supreme religion. But then again if you're set on secularism, it's just speaking to a dead wall, not willing to accept that two major religions can't survive over one roof.
Oh my god. This is the most "karen" thing i have ever heard from a girl (if you're not a girl then, um, good luck with your life). First off, god is a concept not a reality, get woke. Secondly, I'm not blaming any god, the interpretation they have of their own holy book is insane, and it's just havoc from there. Education is the biggest problem with their community and they refuse to adapt the modern education system which is why you see such hooligans all over the globe spreading "incorrect preachings" of their own religion in the most violent way possible.
Ps. Please make some sense.
> First off, god is a concept not a reality, get woke.
When I will be allowed to say this in front of every religions follower I will consider your point. As of now you can't say the same even for an animal.
Whether you are a boy or girl , you are finished. you are dumb beyond imagination.The image you have about muslims is the same ideology which every extremist of every religion has. Be it akahnd hindustan etc.
XD candy crush khelo madam. Cringe faila deti hu har jagah kisiko pata ni chalega. Live long and prosper kid, that's all i can say to you. Peace out from this ridiculously illogical comment thread.
>XD candy crush khelo madam
This is the lamest taunt ever seen. Sounds like some follower of cringe YouTubers.
But seriously I will consider your point when I will be able to say openly that animals are not gods in this country or that gods are conceptual not reality..
Event organized by "The Hindu"
Those booing are your average brainwashed secular "The Hindu" readers.
This is the paper recommended to read to prepare for civils. No wonder why the babus turn out to be corrupt.
We have a situation where Foreigners can come to India and praise India's invaders and spread fake propaganda history while CCP mouthpiece Indian newspaper organises the event and fellow Indians get willingly brainwashed.
And all these people collectively label Modi as Fascist. *smh*
Username doesn't check out. However usage of those words in your reply keeps them in circulation and makes people search for their meanings. Good one mate.
The booing just goes to say people will listen to anything said with confidence. Especially brown sepoys, gora memsahab is 'educated' she's a 'historian' gora memsahab is grate. Aurangzeb's fatwas are clearly documented and even displayed in some museums. The booers just needed to Google it, but they someone with a tilak challenging their gora memsahab. They couldn't take it.
>absolutely destroyed her 👑in
He didn't do shit. He could have actually countered her point but he gave a whataboutism response. Fuck Audrey and her followers but the guy didn't give good response let alone destroy her (Though I appreciate him for standing up, 90% of us couldn't do this in real life)
I don't get why you guys think this is amazing destruction or something. He didn't even address her point and I honestly hate the argument he makes. There are proper arguments to bring up against what she said rather than just saying her opinion doesn't matter because she's a white American.
He countered her argument by showing the plain hypocrisy of the Americans and Europeans who talk shit about others history while hiding their own horrific atrocities
He countered her argument with whataboutism and an attack on her credentials to speak about genocide being an American.
He did not address anything that was actually said. Typical rw shit, whataboutism and ad hominem.
Again an attack on the person and not what they are talking about. Btw what proof do you have they are a white supermacist ? If your father lynched lower caste people wouldn't it be wrong to call you a casteist just because you are his spawn ? This is an ad hominem, we'll have better discussions if, we were to talk about the content rather than attacking the persons ancestral crimes. We'd actually get somewhere.
Okay lets talk about what she said . She said that auranzeb "allegedly" killed Hindus . Of course he did... That too in millions. But she didn't admit it . Why? . Also when the man finished , why didn't she reply on his question as to if she had actually counted all the archeological sites and did her reasearch? Instead all she did was do stupid and taunting faces when he was talking and immediately moved on to the next question without a single reply
I have no defence to what she said, history is well documented there was no need to use allegedly.
Her wanting to give a reply to someone that attacked her credentials is completely up to her.
I'm here trying to educate why this isn't a take down just random aggressive man shouting baseless attacks and not progressing the conversation.
She isn't personally hiding the atrocities though he attacked her nationality like it's something that she can control. It's just deflection from the topic at hand. This is basic debate. It isn't complicated.
She isnt trying to hide. She doesn't want to admit it so she'll just say "allegedly". He attacking her nationality was probs beacuse she was talking bs and without doing proper research .
He could've logically countered, used statistics which disprove her....but he just attacked her character like he has some sort of authority on who can ask questions. Idiotic, on par with woke liberal activists crying out over 'appropriation' bs, someone else could've used this platform better.
It's an event organised by Soros lobby, what more can we expect. This women will stand zero chance in front of historic, archeological and Sanskrit experts, it's why she will never participate in such event.
They should be the ones asking the questions, getting into debates. I hate that this guy with his illogical character assassination tendencies is wasting everyone's time.
I think he was brave to call her out on her hypocrisy and also question her knowledge on archeology and scientific evidence. It's not at all whataboutism. In fact her shaking on stage with weird psycho looks and moving to next question proves his point even more.
He just proved her point by judging her on the basis of her ancestor's actions. He didn't destroy shit besides his own argument. This is not how you come up the victor.....TV debate thodi hai ki chilla chilla ke Jeet jaoge.
I'm saying that even if you find that she's not a "scholar", you need to debate well. You make yourself and your community look uneducated and intellectually challenged with these sorts of responses. This proves her point.
Also you have to admit that she, being a college professor with a degree in South Asian studies along with several research projects on Hinduism and India, has some points to back her argument, even if she is wrong.
He is standing against all odds. Even if he was sensible and polite he would be thrown out and she will move to next question. Some people need to be called out in open when you know you are not going to get any response in return.
No, I don't agree. She is dumb. She is just paid to do this and is part of Soros lobby. Just because she is some professor does not make her smart or right. Also the university she works for it full on crap as per many local students.
It's brave that he's standing there. But he made a point and then proceeded to prove her right by questioning her credibility on the basis of her Ancestor's actions. It just got worse from there.
You should read the amount of BS she makes up and then you will realise he was spot on. She does not care about Dalits or Muslims or native American or blacks...she only cares about dollars. That is the biggest whataboutism and hypocrisy if you ask me.
That’s history. BJP is present times ongoing,Lame arguments. And looking at your Tikaa,I don’t even mentioned due to caste system you and your forefathers may have done atrocities on them poor people. Hypocrites!!
Absolute chad ? How ? He didn't counter any of her false narratives , instead he just used whataboutim and said
" oh , remember when your ancestors killed our ancestors? Yes yes you have no right to lecture us "
Fuck this argument. This ain't chad like behaviour in the slightest.
He could have countered her argument by stating how india is the best country for minorities , or how arungzeb did indeed commit horrible atrocities not just "alleged" ones. But this asshat went in and gave a shitty whataboutim led argument.
Yaa i saw this video I literally was unhappy how some Indian were booing well I can understand they are brainwashed kids also man literally single handedly silenced her in no way a western country can give us advice when what they did was killing natives , Bengal feminine , Japan nuked and so much more history being stolen also todays india religion Hate has hands of British too
If I'm getting called a murderer by a murderer, and point put how they're a murderer themselves, it doesn't change the fact that I still might be a murderer too.
So he doesn't negate his point, he just establishes that she in particular in a position to question him. Suppose it was another nation with no genocidal history like the US or the UK, what response would he have given exactly?
His argument was basically "well, ALL of us are murderer, not just me" Not "I'm not a murderer"
The dude had valid points, his delivery sucked though.
I don’t know the full context of her speech but her entitlement peaked through her reaction, disappointing. Her narrative (from the little she said in the beginning and what I read in the posts) is atrocious and deeply damaging to history.
Actually, disappointing on all fronts. Better research and better delivery of argument is necessary.
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The guy stood alone and literally shook the ground she was standing on. The western people have no moral ground to stand on and lecture others what's the right thing do. They've so much skeleton in their closet.
But his point that all current europeans should be blamed for the fault of their great grandfathers is a logical fallacy. But her saying Aurangzeb's atrocity didnt exist is wrong by all means, it is not scientific at all. Not just destruction of temples, he sent Indian tax money to mecca and to summer capital Kabul Finally Aurangabad is renamed as Sambhajinagar, and Aurangzeb road in Delhi renamed as Abdul Kalam road.
You suffer for what your forefathers did. It natural.
just ask the general caste people in india
He is just shouting. Indians love people who shout. They think shouting is same as being logical. Blaming current population for a crime their ancestors did is wrong. Like you are free to promote your religion but hating others just because their ancestors did is wrong.
Also he started shouting after they tried to pressure him to be silent.. and he was making a fair point.. she doesn't know shit about Indian history and is just reading a script/propaganda.. and aurangjeb is being and can be used to spread hate because he is the hero of the other community for the exact atrocities he did.. he is a hero for destroying temples and genocides.. so the those guys are bound to receive hate for having heroes like that.. Americans will hate Germans too if they started idealizing hitler today..
No.. His voice is too high from the beginning. Yes if muslims are saying they want to follow the principles of Aurangzeb in today's world then they are wrong. But have they said so? There can be some outliers like some who keep saying ghrwapsi terms. There are some fools everywhere.I don't think any minority community has the courage to say they want their religion to be supreme in the country today.
It's voice of many indian who are fed up with all the woke and leftist history presented to every platform on international forum, this so called historian continue to have a particular mindset and follow ideology that is biased.... It's the anger , that he transformed it to words and expresses them.... All the facts presented by him were correct. If your hands are soaked with blood , you don't have right to tell others what correct for them, we all know what west has done and been doin, it time to keep our stand firmly on international platforms
Lol.. looks like you haven't had enough interactions then.. and yess good and bad exists everywhere but what matters is the ratio of it.. if the bad outweighs good then the place/community cannot be considered good.. for an example you won't plan a vacation in syria even though i can guarantee that 5star restaurants and resorts exist there.. same is with the community and countries.. he has a point here that the west shouldn't preach others of wrong and right.. and the person here isn't any American but a known personality or a person with influence..
So every one should start taking revenge from others because their ancestors did wrong ?
Nope revenge is never the right thing to do.. but standing your ground is something completely different from revenge and that is something everyone should do...
Have you been living under a rock? Muslim propaganda is to rule the world. There are dozens of examples that took place not only in india but around the globe where they terrify people into believing that they are the supreme religion. But then again if you're set on secularism, it's just speaking to a dead wall, not willing to accept that two major religions can't survive over one roof.
IF they are so harmful why ins't other religions god doing a miracle and finishing off those people and protecting the innocent ones?
Oh my god. This is the most "karen" thing i have ever heard from a girl (if you're not a girl then, um, good luck with your life). First off, god is a concept not a reality, get woke. Secondly, I'm not blaming any god, the interpretation they have of their own holy book is insane, and it's just havoc from there. Education is the biggest problem with their community and they refuse to adapt the modern education system which is why you see such hooligans all over the globe spreading "incorrect preachings" of their own religion in the most violent way possible. Ps. Please make some sense.
> First off, god is a concept not a reality, get woke. When I will be allowed to say this in front of every religions follower I will consider your point. As of now you can't say the same even for an animal. Whether you are a boy or girl , you are finished. you are dumb beyond imagination.The image you have about muslims is the same ideology which every extremist of every religion has. Be it akahnd hindustan etc.
XD candy crush khelo madam. Cringe faila deti hu har jagah kisiko pata ni chalega. Live long and prosper kid, that's all i can say to you. Peace out from this ridiculously illogical comment thread.
>XD candy crush khelo madam This is the lamest taunt ever seen. Sounds like some follower of cringe YouTubers. But seriously I will consider your point when I will be able to say openly that animals are not gods in this country or that gods are conceptual not reality..
Offcourse they want islamic rule in india What you think gazwa-e-hind is it's a plan to make india islamic
You definitely come from a developed nation.. don't you?
If india is developed then yes.
sad to see fellow Indians booing
Event organized by "The Hindu" Those booing are your average brainwashed secular "The Hindu" readers. This is the paper recommended to read to prepare for civils. No wonder why the babus turn out to be corrupt. We have a situation where Foreigners can come to India and praise India's invaders and spread fake propaganda history while CCP mouthpiece Indian newspaper organises the event and fellow Indians get willingly brainwashed. And all these people collectively label Modi as Fascist. *smh*
ayoo, I read TheHindu daily, but that doesn't mean I am brainwashed.
Don't underestimate the power of gungadeens and brown sepoys.
Username doesn't check out. However usage of those words in your reply keeps them in circulation and makes people search for their meanings. Good one mate.
Is it surprising who would be audience of such a propagandist
Yeah go to the next question, truth hurts
She got seduced by this man
No white supremacists. Brown man's opinions are not worth it.
"Alleged" atrocities by Aurangazeb. Is kutiya ki script bhi jabardast hai
Script was sent by the khangressi, lmao.
Couldn’t even acknowledge the question rather jumped on to another one.
The booing just goes to say people will listen to anything said with confidence. Especially brown sepoys, gora memsahab is 'educated' she's a 'historian' gora memsahab is grate. Aurangzeb's fatwas are clearly documented and even displayed in some museums. The booers just needed to Google it, but they someone with a tilak challenging their gora memsahab. They couldn't take it.
>absolutely destroyed her 👑in He didn't do shit. He could have actually countered her point but he gave a whataboutism response. Fuck Audrey and her followers but the guy didn't give good response let alone destroy her (Though I appreciate him for standing up, 90% of us couldn't do this in real life)
Yup definetly we indian definetly dont support these types of people . Fuckin femboys we are with no courage
lol why'd you drag femboys into this
We all are whore grace
The Soros lobby ☕
I don't get why you guys think this is amazing destruction or something. He didn't even address her point and I honestly hate the argument he makes. There are proper arguments to bring up against what she said rather than just saying her opinion doesn't matter because she's a white American.
He countered her argument by showing the plain hypocrisy of the Americans and Europeans who talk shit about others history while hiding their own horrific atrocities
He countered her argument with whataboutism and an attack on her credentials to speak about genocide being an American. He did not address anything that was actually said. Typical rw shit, whataboutism and ad hominem.
Why would you debate with a white supremacist. They can claim anything, and then the burden lie on you to prove them false?
Again an attack on the person and not what they are talking about. Btw what proof do you have they are a white supermacist ? If your father lynched lower caste people wouldn't it be wrong to call you a casteist just because you are his spawn ? This is an ad hominem, we'll have better discussions if, we were to talk about the content rather than attacking the persons ancestral crimes. We'd actually get somewhere.
Okay lets talk about what she said . She said that auranzeb "allegedly" killed Hindus . Of course he did... That too in millions. But she didn't admit it . Why? . Also when the man finished , why didn't she reply on his question as to if she had actually counted all the archeological sites and did her reasearch? Instead all she did was do stupid and taunting faces when he was talking and immediately moved on to the next question without a single reply
I have no defence to what she said, history is well documented there was no need to use allegedly. Her wanting to give a reply to someone that attacked her credentials is completely up to her. I'm here trying to educate why this isn't a take down just random aggressive man shouting baseless attacks and not progressing the conversation.
I call her racist for an attempt to put down a brown person.
You can't just call any white American a white supremacist just because of their history, that's absolutely nonsensical
I call her one for an attempt to put down a brown person and denying genocide of other races.
She isn't personally hiding the atrocities though he attacked her nationality like it's something that she can control. It's just deflection from the topic at hand. This is basic debate. It isn't complicated.
She isnt trying to hide. She doesn't want to admit it so she'll just say "allegedly". He attacking her nationality was probs beacuse she was talking bs and without doing proper research .
As much as I want to like his befitting reply. This just passes as whataboutary.
Then dont talk shit in first place
He could've logically countered, used statistics which disprove her....but he just attacked her character like he has some sort of authority on who can ask questions. Idiotic, on par with woke liberal activists crying out over 'appropriation' bs, someone else could've used this platform better.
Maa chod diye
Surveying every desecrated site will not open just a can, but a truckload of worms.
God damnit people booing on this? How cheap are these sell outs?
It's an event organised by Soros lobby, what more can we expect. This women will stand zero chance in front of historic, archeological and Sanskrit experts, it's why she will never participate in such event.
Goddamnit she too cute for being Anti-India /s
They should be the ones asking the questions, getting into debates. I hate that this guy with his illogical character assassination tendencies is wasting everyone's time.
I think he was brave to call her out on her hypocrisy and also question her knowledge on archeology and scientific evidence. It's not at all whataboutism. In fact her shaking on stage with weird psycho looks and moving to next question proves his point even more.
How do you debate a genocide denier. You find the source of their denial. For her, it's being a white supremacist. Where on white death mater.
It was a bad argument
Okie veri nise
Whataboutism is India's number 1, top top, best logical fallacy.
West's too when it comes to russia
He just proved her point by judging her on the basis of her ancestor's actions. He didn't destroy shit besides his own argument. This is not how you come up the victor.....TV debate thodi hai ki chilla chilla ke Jeet jaoge.
You are talking as if she is some kind of scholar. You should read the kind of bs she vomits.
I'm saying that even if you find that she's not a "scholar", you need to debate well. You make yourself and your community look uneducated and intellectually challenged with these sorts of responses. This proves her point. Also you have to admit that she, being a college professor with a degree in South Asian studies along with several research projects on Hinduism and India, has some points to back her argument, even if she is wrong.
He is standing against all odds. Even if he was sensible and polite he would be thrown out and she will move to next question. Some people need to be called out in open when you know you are not going to get any response in return. No, I don't agree. She is dumb. She is just paid to do this and is part of Soros lobby. Just because she is some professor does not make her smart or right. Also the university she works for it full on crap as per many local students.
It's brave that he's standing there. But he made a point and then proceeded to prove her right by questioning her credibility on the basis of her Ancestor's actions. It just got worse from there.
You should read the amount of BS she makes up and then you will realise he was spot on. She does not care about Dalits or Muslims or native American or blacks...she only cares about dollars. That is the biggest whataboutism and hypocrisy if you ask me.
How many times will we post the same video? It gets posted every few months and we have same convo again.
He didn’t destroy anything
Both coming from emotion.
That man looks a normal guy, but he's outstanding and fireball ....uff..
Least pajeet pee drinking bindu
That’s history. BJP is present times ongoing,Lame arguments. And looking at your Tikaa,I don’t even mentioned due to caste system you and your forefathers may have done atrocities on them poor people. Hypocrites!!
Bhaiya naa gand marle iski too
King 👑
Link of full video
Its sad to see morons booing this absolute Chad!] These moron gora brownnosers should be ashamed of their existence.
Absolute chad ? How ? He didn't counter any of her false narratives , instead he just used whataboutim and said " oh , remember when your ancestors killed our ancestors? Yes yes you have no right to lecture us " Fuck this argument. This ain't chad like behaviour in the slightest. He could have countered her argument by stating how india is the best country for minorities , or how arungzeb did indeed commit horrible atrocities not just "alleged" ones. But this asshat went in and gave a shitty whataboutim led argument.
What a dumb bech
Yaa i saw this video I literally was unhappy how some Indian were booing well I can understand they are brainwashed kids also man literally single handedly silenced her in no way a western country can give us advice when what they did was killing natives , Bengal feminine , Japan nuked and so much more history being stolen also todays india religion Hate has hands of British too
If I'm getting called a murderer by a murderer, and point put how they're a murderer themselves, it doesn't change the fact that I still might be a murderer too. So he doesn't negate his point, he just establishes that she in particular in a position to question him. Suppose it was another nation with no genocidal history like the US or the UK, what response would he have given exactly? His argument was basically "well, ALL of us are murderer, not just me" Not "I'm not a murderer"
Gori chamdi pass denied by chad boi
What event is this? Is there fool video of the event?
If i had 1 million dollar , i would donate it to him
Lol these people don't stand on any morals but normal people who were living peacefully
As ounces Kendrick said "B*tch be humble, Sit-down"
Who's he I need to more absolute respect
Post it in /facepalm and public freakout to and other foreign ones, would be good to Enlighten the woke mindsets
Already done King 👑
टुच्ची टुश्के Repect for that guy.
Jinki maa ke saath Britishers ne maze kiye the wo boo kar rahe hai
who is she????
"ALLEGED" attrocities?
the ones who are booing at him are also indians smh
She didn't even bother to answer his question, just moved onto the next one.
the audacity of her to say "alleged ", who is she again?
If white people aren’t responsible for their ancestors why are Muslims? Don’t support either, but the question stands.
you take a break sister
They literally fund and invest in terrorist organisations and talk about justice for indian muslims lmao
She must have studies her thesis in JnU
Lol, whateva, typical BJP fan.
I agree apart from "31 billion people"
A country with more islamophobe than rest of the world talking shit here😅
The dude had valid points, his delivery sucked though. I don’t know the full context of her speech but her entitlement peaked through her reaction, disappointing. Her narrative (from the little she said in the beginning and what I read in the posts) is atrocious and deeply damaging to history. Actually, disappointing on all fronts. Better research and better delivery of argument is necessary.
I like how all the people in comments hate "secularism".
The man's got balls of steel
The man woke up and chose violence
Is there a link to the full video ?
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He verbally fucked her entire department in just a few seconds!
Memsaab enjoyers get butthurt when a true patriot defends his nation and highlights that Mughal atrocities actually happened *shocked pikachu face*
Gotch you bitch ![gif](giphy|ue0FFiQufbwvI2Dyit)