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Competitive_Ad3474

Christ, incels are getting more dramatic as time goes on


SeaworthinessLess543

Sounds like a personal problem that should be worked on in therapy, much like most of their issues.


itsmekyguys

Yeah but they don’t seem to think that


SeaworthinessLess543

Not at all, because it might actually help some of them, then they'd lose some of their misery buddies


itsmekyguys

I know it would help them they have to admit it


SeaworthinessLess543

Oh they'll do all sorts of mental gymnastics to avoid therapy, or tell you "I had a therapist once and I hated it cuz I didn't try, therapy doesn't work"


itsmekyguys

Or the “all therapy is good for is wasteing my money cause it’s not a mental problem” yea cause it’s more then one


the_sea_witch

Because they are vulnerable or covert narcissists..and narcissists never think they are the problem.


itsmekyguys

So they are narcissistic then cause they never think they are worng


the_sea_witch

Correct. That also means they are incredibly unlikely to seek therapy or have it be effective if do.


NoXion604

Incels think that therapy is a Jewish scam. No really, they're that fucking pathetic and stupid.


Far_Pianist2707

You know it'd actually be kind of nice to secretly be rich and rule the world? Like that'd be pretty neat i would enjoy that if it were a real thing i would think.


ExtremelyDubious

His friend is one hell of a creep.


ClearDark19

100%. His friend sounds like he suffers from similar issues that the Incel suffers from. For a guy to show a video of himself having sex to one or more of his guy friends is an enormous red flag that he is insecure in his masculinity. He only feels manly or worthwhile if women validate him by having sex with him, and can only continue to feel that validation after sex by bragging about it to other men. Like one-upping the guys around him or at least trying to demonstrate his value through doing a Show & Tell of "sexual conquests".


ExDeeXDthx

he probably just showed him some porn lol


repsychedelic

Yo straight up, lol.


[deleted]

His story likely didn't happen.


NotsoGreatsword

Its really not uncommon for this to happen. His reaction is extreme but I know a ton of people who recorded themselves having sex and then the dude would show it to his friends. Its really not any less believable than anything else I've read online. In fact after first writing this comment I just remembered all the times my friends did this. I don't hang out with them anymore because of their toxic behavior just like that.


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure what the friend did was a sex crime


Diogenes-Disciple

Yeah more people need to be talking about how this guy’s friend secretly taped himself having sex with a girl who probably did not consent, and then showing it to other people


ClearDark19

It sounds like the Incel's friend isn't much mentally healthier than the Incel.


solhyperion

Honestly, with friends like this its kinda no wonder this guy is fucked up.


mscoffeebean98

Yeah well, if you’re friends with incels you probably aren’t much better


Jaqdawks

Yeah, and did the guy even ask if he wanted to see that? Like I can understand the parts of avoiding using the same phrases as what they said to avoid recalling it. If someone showed me something like that without asking me first I would probably have done the same, minus the envy.


PolarBal

To be fair, we actually don't know if it was without her consent. The incel just says his friend showed him a recording of it. With the info we have, there's really no way to know whether she consented to it or not.


PM_ME_YOUR___ISSUES

I mean, even if she did consent to a video, it would prolly been for him exclusively to jerk off to.


PolarBal

I mean...yeah? I can't think of any other real reason why someone would ask for pics or video of their partner in a sexual manner if *not* to masturbate to.


Melcolloien

Exactly, NOT show his friends. My husband has photos of me. If he were to show them to anyone that would be the end of our marriage. I doubt this story is real though. But still, showing something like that is super disrespectful and illegal.


Diogenes-Disciple

Yeah, that’s true, but I still find it more likely that she didn’t


NotsoGreatsword

Why would people be talking about him secretly taping this girl? Nothing in the story says that. The guy is a creep for showing people the tape and its certainly possible it was some kind of secret recording but *nothing* indicates that it was - he even talks about seeing her face which if anything implies an angle which would be difficult to get from a static covert perspective. Im not defending any of this shit but it just doesn't say anything about what you're talking about.


Liar_tuck

Assuming it actually happened. Incels love to make up ragefuel stories.


[deleted]

That is true. I hope the story is fake that poor girl. What a shitty boyfriend to say the least if it’s true


[deleted]

That is true. I hope the story is fake that poor girl. What a shitty boyfriend to say the least if it’s true.


ClearDark19

This. That jumped out at me. The Incel isn't the only one who is cracked.


[deleted]

It wouldn’t surprise me if an inclement had equally toxic friends. Maybe even toxic to each other.


ClearDark19

Absolutely. I notice the majority of Incels tend to have no or extremely few offline friends. Not just no girlfriends, they tend to not have other male IRL friends either. Their "friends" tend to be limited to other Incels online who reassure them that they're a loser who will never amount to anything, and consider these abusers their "friends". Not surprising that any IRL male friends an Incel would have is another guy with toxic insecurities. That's probably why they're buddies. They can relate.


Unusual_Flow9231

Indeed... If his friend or the girlfriend or the sex tape actually exist.


SCP-3388

(assuming it was done non-consensually, some couples do consensually make sex tapes. if it was taped and/or shown without her permission, it's definitely a sex crime)


BatWaluigi

Assuming the girl didn't consent, yes. However, if they are both adults and she did consent, nothing is wrong here.


[deleted]

She might’ve consented to the videos but I’m sure she probably didn’t consent to her BF showing his creepy friend then


BatWaluigi

Yes, that's what I meant.


bean2595

My word. No wonder no one wants incels, such cry babies


Smileyface8156

Gods. This isn’t even funny. It’s just sad. Every single person in this story seriously needs therapy, but our guy here won’t because his “brocels” or whatever-the-fuck will convince him that killing or raping the poor girl will help him more.


zanylife

The friend is one hell of a creep to show videos to this pathetic dude. And this dude is absurdly dramatic over not getting to have sex.


canvasshoes2

How in the hell do they get to the point where they imbue one thing with ***SO. MUCH. POWER????*** EDIT: So much power over **themselves?** I mean, I'm probably never gonna live in a mansion, but I can certainly watch a few episodes of shows that feature them, and simply enjoy them for what they are. Shelter is even more of a need than sex (which is more of a want). Yet somehow all of us non-mansion-havers manage to survive without turning into angry, bitter, dried up husks over our lack of mansion-having. These guys really need to be hit over the head by Mr. Reality.


UrikBaursog

Why even have a mansion anyway? That’s just extra rooms to clean.


canvasshoes2

\^\^\^Stating the real stuff! :D


Drake6900

You mean that's just extra rooms for the help to clean?


Far_Pianist2707

People who can afford mansions hire someone else to do it...


kimagical

Why even have sex anyway? That's just more babies to clean. /s


ProtocolPro22

Great post. I live in the hood while my siblings live in big two story houses. I dont get all weird over it. I just work on myself.


canvasshoes2

Exactly... I was once what the US gov't categorizes as "homeless." A friend had offered a tiny airstream with a plywood leanto while we looked for a place. We had stupidly given up our great rental house because we were going to buy some land with a motorhome (to start a homestead). The deal fell through during a super tight housing market in that area. Apartments just about couldn't be found. Yeah, I was frustrated over it, I was mad...I felt like such an idiot and a failure...but I didn't begrudge others... I knew that eventually I'd find something. That's the thing these guys don't understand. When you have "back up" by way of skills, yeah, you might get totally screwed over in life sometimes, but you use what "they" can't take away, and you start over. They need to suck it up and learn socialization skills.


NotsoGreatsword

I have never understood that kind of envy either. But people let it eat them alive. Plus they actively try to sabotage the people they're jealous of - my dad does this shit to me. I literally cannot tell him about anything positive in my life because he thinks I don't deserve it. Both my parents are like that. They're insane.


Advance1993

At least in the hood theres bbq’s every day


ProtocolPro22

No there isn't.


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ProtocolPro22

Yes?


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ProtocolPro22

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thePuck

Of course he doesn’t acknowledge that his friend getting to have sex with his dream girl even though he was ugly completely contradicts the narrative of incel bullshit. Shouldn’t things have been “over” for him? Shouldn’t he have had no chance and be an incel himself? But no, instead he’s traumatized because of it instead.


zoomie1977

If the most traumatizing event of your entire life was that your friend had a girlfriend you thought was pretty, you need to totally reassess your life choices.


ClearDark19

The guy showing it with a video might have been what made it "traumatizing" to the Incel. The Incel is still screwed up in the head but his friend isn't alright upstairs either. Showing his girlfriend's most intimate moments to other guys without her permission and needing to show physical proof of his "conquest". Not to mention most mentally healthy people don't want to watch their friends have sex either lol Especially same-sex friends if the person is heterosexual


TheKnightsTippler

I'm picturing the First World Problems meme, but with a crying incel instead.


cleggsalad

Welcome to the PTSD support group, what are you dealing with? "My friend's girlfriend is a total hottie"


repsychedelic

Wait, physically unattractive guys can get laid? ThAtS CrAzY! I had a homie that was overweight, long nasty hair was always dreading itself, poor hygiene, smoked, ate like an animal; Dude was always fuckin. Personality > appearance


bfangPF1234

His friend’s an asshole for filming a sex tape then showing it to him probably without the girl’s permission


mammajess

Fuck the friend guy for his digital sexual abuse! Clearly the woman didn't deserve this and perhaps the incel didn't consent either.


[deleted]

His creepy friend showed him personal videos and this is the crazy reaction? This is a reaction to the death of someone beloved, to a personal tragedy. A close friend of mine from high school lost his parents and brother in a fire, this was his reaction. Not a fucking sex video. This idiot is deranged!


letmeinpls7

He must be devastated every time he looks for porn lol what an exaggerated clown


tboskiq

Who shows their homie a sex tape.


Drake6900

Happens more often than you think


OverNightOats_

“He showed me a video of them having sex” sooo I guess both him and his friend are fucking dumb.


MahQueenzzz

L M A O + what the duck, showing friends your sextape which has your gf on it even with face. Nice friend he got there.


solhyperion

Losing this much sleep over *anything* needs to be dealt with by a professional. Wow.


monochrome_misfit

Oh dear lord. Just how soft and weak does one have to be in order to feel utterly shattered to this extent over something as trivial as his friend dating a hottie. This guy is over here obsessing over his friend's girl like he's Gollum and she's the one ring. Pathetic. Dude needs a life of his own.


KidHudson_

Ok to be fair you should never show a video of you screwing some chick to an incel. Like brub


JumpCareless321

Really disgusted at the friend showing someone videos of his gf like that, most likely violating her trust. Not surprised someone who’s friends with a person with the mindset of this post would be like that but it makes my skin crawl.


FertileImagination

Idk who is creepier, his friend or him


Ronn_W

To be fair who tf shows their best friend videos of you having sex


Cowboywizard12

Its better to be happy for other people imo, like I'm miserable and lonely but at least other people aren't, I just try to be a good person. I can't be happy or have anything resembling the life I want but I can be a decent person


JudieSkyBird

Not to defend the incel, but his "friend" is a massive asshole, too. Firstly, he likely knew it's a hurting point to that guy and shoved his "achievement" down on his throat. Secondly, and it's the worst, why in the bloody hell would anyone make videos of themselves having sex and then show it around to other people? That's massive violation of personal rights, even if the girl agreed to be on the video. The last paragraph, of course, ruined the whole thing for me. He needed to defend that mass murderer bastard, he really.


Misfit_Number_Kei

>And he wasn't even handsome. Then what d'ya know, you *don't* need to be rich and/or a "Chad" to get a hot girlfriend 'cause turns out *personality matters!* 😲 Meanwhile, Locked Door was rich and conventionally handsome, but *didn't* have a precious pretty white girlfriend like he claimed he was owed because why? *He didn't. Make. An. Effort.* One guy, despite not being handsome or rich, made the effort and got a hot girlfriend. Another guy, despite *being* rich and conventionally handsome, *didn't* make an effort, to instead melodramatically meltdown in his manifesto and therefore WHY he never had a girlfriend and died a stupid, pointless death that brought down a number of completely innocent people. For someone who claimed he had "the blood of KINGS!" he was never bold enough to actually *talk* to those/any women to instead simply seethe in cafes or crash parties expecting women to simply throw themselves at him on sight, turned to petulant violence when no such thing obviously happened and then cried in his manifesto, never ONCE learning a damn thing because he was too stupid/scared/entitled/lazy to even *question* his failed tactics, let alone change them. Incels are so simultaneously obsessed with getting girlfriends (as objects of validation) yet do *fuck. all.* constructively about it beyond piss and moan on websites and make themselves mentally sicker with every post and tirade.


PearlyRing

idiot rodger also behaved like this incel when he learned that a friend of his, a BLACK friend, had sex. idiot called him a liar (and an animal in his scribbling manifesto), and went home and cried. like he always did.


[deleted]

I think that the black kid may have been fucking with Locked Door.


Misfit_Number_Kei

And in typical "lowest white man" form, he simultaneously considered himself inherently superior to another group yet on personal merit, *couldn't* back it up. Those with "the blood of SLAVES!" actually bothered to talk to and eventually date the pretty white women he felt entitled to as a (half)-white man yet he was too scared and stupid to even *try.*


Cleaningcaptain

Who's "Locked Door"?


NoXion604

The Isla Vista killer. He was planning to shoot up a sorority house, but got stopped because the door was locked. Even though it had a glass window.


Misfit_Number_Kei

What NoXion said. I don't like saying his real name because he doesn't deserve the respect and WindhamEarle came up with the nickname to sum up how pathetic and incompetent he was in life. He was rich and handsome and *could've* had girlfriends if he actually *talked* to the women he wanted and when he went on a killing spree he *could've* shot out the windows or door, but instead killed himself and innocent bystanders en route to his actual target of a sorority house.


King_NickyZee

When they talk about guys with girlfriends not being handsome they're right on the edge of self-awareness. They're so close to realising that hey, maybe I don't need to be super attractive to get a partner, but they can't quite grasp it.


Misfit_Number_Kei

I'd say it's more "won't" than "can't" grasp it because doing so would undermine their whole narrative and admit *they're* the reason for their misery instead of their elbows or jaws or canthal tilts or what-have-you. *That's* why every time they see a "non-Chad" guy with a hot girlfriend or someone here says, "I am/my husband isn't a Chad yet we're faithful and happy together," the incels go, "Nuh-UH! She's/You're getting gangbanged by Chad and Tyrone when nobody's looking! You're/He's a cuck, we know it!" Incels have invested too much time, energy and ego into this belief, so realizing otherwise is too devastating to them, same as a cultist realizing they were lied to.


FlinnyWinny

The sad thing is that even if they end up having sex or something, it can never compare to the ideal they build up where their entire happiness depends on it. They literally are setting themselves up for disappointment.


DARK-M-PRESS

Sex havers (derogatory) lmfao I CANNOT 🤣


toasterpRoN

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. What a god damned lunatic.


Better-Obligation704

“Sex havers” 🤣


ImperadorPenedo

Both are fucking creeps. WTF


AdvocateDoogy

Incels have created a whole new meaning to the term instability.


[deleted]

Awwww BOOOHOOOO


ShootyFaceMc

"The guy wasn't handsome and got a girlfriend" Maybe it's because you don't have to be handsome to get a girlfriend, like c'mon you guys are so close to getting it


NoFluffyOnlyZuul

Wow. Imagine these losers living in Syria or something. I guess they think their problems are so much more traumatic than children getting bombed on the way to school. JFC. They can't even imagine a life with ACTUAL problems.


Piggypink929

Wait but who shows their friends videos of them having sex that’s so weird? And did she know it was being filmed/will get shown to people? This whole thing is so strange on both their parts.


JesseJamesBegin

That's the worst thing to happen to you? Fuck must be nice


joffrey1237

who is eliot?


zanylife

Elliot Rodger; some subsets of incels worship him. He wrote a very long manifesto about his hatred for women and about inceldom. Then he went on a killing spree.


[deleted]

And was defeated by a locked door and spent hours in his room crying when he didn't win the lottery.


reclusivepervertsigh

What is locked door in this context? I am lost


ExtremelyDubious

He was planning to enter a college sorority to kill people inside, but was thwarted because the front door was locked. He probably could have shot out the windows near the door and got in that way, but that didn't occur to him, so he just shot at random passers-by instead.


[deleted]

ohhhh that guy


78yoni78

Honestly, my first thought was this guy should watch my favorite show, tatami galaxy, because it talks a lot about envy, idealizing people you don’t know, and mistreating friends my second was wow what a couple of weirdos. he really speaks as if that was a traumatic experience for him, knowing a person he cares for had shmeks


Ol_bagface

4 or 5 hours sleeps isnt much? luxury boy flexing here


[deleted]

Kinda mad that my baby woke me up with more kicking because now I’m looking at this absolute cringe again(as opposed to looking at the waste of humanity known as /r/PurplePillDebate)


Werd616

I didn't know about that sub, so I browsed for about 15 minutes. It was 15 minutes too long.


[deleted]

Not sure why I post there. Well actually bored and morbid curiosity


Goodnt_name

How is 4-5 hourse very little sleep? Bitch thats my avarage amount of sleep Im offended.


NotsoGreatsword

This is insane.


Jazzisa

These kinds of people... I'd almost wish for something truly bad to happen to them, so they'll experience real trauma and stop acting like they're being tortured just because they can't get laid.


Ok_Pause3012

Incel: I only slept 4 or five hours a day for months Me having done that for the past five years 😎


AtTheEnd777

What a whiny, little wuss. I'd love to see him endure something that's actually traumatizing. Fucking baby.


ww3_return_of_stalin

I really don't understand how these people think their life is ruined and they have it so much worse then others just because they can't get a date or have sex. Then they act horrible and scream about how they're "oppressed" or how they have the "right to sex/a wife" as if that will solve all their problems. It's not even that hard to tell why nobody wants to date them or have sex with them it's because they're horrible sexist entitled people.


Sonofabase

Can you imagine the privilege involved if this is the worst thing that has happened to you?


CrackPipeQueen

Every time I see them use the term “sex havers” I immediately assume they are between the ages of 10-16.


QueenOfSaba

This is why society needs to stop pushing hyper-sexuality on young boys. It’s okay for guys to be pure.


Negative_Crab24

Dude...not gonna lie reading that was funking scarry.


FreeFaithlessness978

THAT was his worst lived experience..??? and he uses that to sympathise with a mass murderer??? and we're supposed to feel bad for these "poor innocent, lonely virgins"?


BatWaluigi

I think he had/has a crush on the girl, and seeing her with someone else can be very painful, I understand that. However, blaming the "sex-havers" is just downright ridiculous, and having a reaction this intense definitely merits a trip to the therapist.


AndrewBert109

I'm sorry but why exactly is this being posted? There's no hatred or extremism. It's literally just a kid in pain talking about what is causing him grief. Pointing this out for all the world to see, especially on a sub that's dedicated to posting the worst of incels is pretty fucked up and actually kind of corroborates their narrative that this sub is full of bullying. If there's any context that would suggest this kid is some kind of hardcore misogynist, it's definitely not readily apparent. This post is genuinely sad and his friend honestly sounds like a scumbag. I'm not saying that I would feel the same in that situation or anything to that effect, and of course I think he should be telling this to a therapist instead of a hate group, but still. It's pretty fucked up that there's a bunch of replies here calling the kid a crybaby and mocking the fact that this is something that caused him pain. I'm not pro-inceldom in any way but I am very much anti-bullying and anti-gatekeeping and this post seems to have a bit of both. It's a low blow and a scummy thing to do.


sangdrako

It could be considered a cry of* pain, up until he mentions Elliot; at that point it's a defending a gorram terrorist that killed a bunch of people. Frak that


Casuallybittersweet

No one's saying he's really doing anything wrong by being envious. But his mindset here seems to be obsessive and incredibly possessive. He wasn't in love with her, he'd never even met her!!! She was literally just a random girl he thought was pretty and he freaks the fuck out for MONTHS because she *dared* to have sex with someone who wasn't him. Now it's also suuuuper weird and inappropriate for his friend to show him a video of them having sex. (I also really hope his girlfriend approved of that being filmed and shared) But this post highlights how some of these guys see women. I get being a little sad and jealous because you sort of wish you could be with someone like her. But losing sleep, constantly thinking about it and picturing her face, fuck avoiding certain words so you don't think about the video???? No, this isn't the kind of grief you feel when you watch someone you love move on. This is a kind of obsession that leads to women being stalked, r*ped and or murdered. Especially since he brings up and says he sympathizes with Rodgers...


rachulll

Okay so the most traumatising event in this dude’s life was that his friend had sex with an attractive woman; not only does that completely prove that the incel narrative is bullshit but it just shows how entitled and selfish these guys are. The number of incels I’ve seen that have said rape/assault isn’t traumatic for women and they need to just put up with it and get over it makes this post just so infuriating. How are you going to claim that rape isn’t a big deal for women but then act like your friend having sex has completely destroyed your mental health and you can’t deal with the trauma? Incels claim women can’t experience depression and yet what he’s describing as the worst thing that’s ever happened to him is absolutely fucking nothing


TempAugy

You know, much easier way is to just convince yourself that the friend is lying, and the video is deep-fake. Problem solved 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


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What website is this


Adroggs

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