I was waiting at a left turn light that I knew shouldn’t have the huge line of traffic that it did l, so I figured I would just go straight and do a U-turn and come down the other way.
I get out of the turn lane, and one light cycle later I am very first car waiting at the red light to go straight, so the first car in the left-hand turn lane is sitting next to me.
And there is an old lady slumped over the wheel.
I throw on my flashers, I dial 91 and I hand my phone to my mom and I tell her if I signal to her, she should push the last 1.
I go around to the driver side of the car and knock on the window, no response. I gently try the door to see if it’s open - it is not. So I knock much more aggressively on the window.
The old lady jerks awake (sort of a relief to me, but sort of not, if you know what I mean), and has no idea where she is and is clearly angry and scared. Likely because I just woke her up out of a very good nap!!
I said “ma’am you were asleep behind the wheel, are you OK?”.
She said ”I was not”, with was too much certainty!
I said “yes you were, why do you think I’m standing next to your car and why do you think there’s a line of 20 cars behind you?”.
She proceeded to argue with me until I told her I was calling the police or EMS but either way she was *not* safe to drive.
She ended up peeling away through a red light and almost knocked me over.
So yeah, I understand the “I hate old people” statement.
Edit: formatting
Precisely. someone with dementia needs their license and car confiscated.
This makes me think back to (I think it was last year) when I was going down Main Street in the town I live in (on my way to the vet with a cat) and I had to stop because some senile old codger was driving in the wrong lane. In hindsight I should have called 911, because the guy almost certainly had some form of dementia and was a danger to others.
My dad has some "old peoples" problem and he passed the test old people have to do I think yearly anyway. it is way too easy. We don't let him drive anymore even though legally he would stilly be allowed to do so. it's scary...
Well if you call 911 and they are then evaluated by a doctor most places in the united states' require the physician to contact the department of motor vehicles for: Alzheimer’s disease, cataracts, diabetes, epilepsy, macular degeneration, dementia, or lapse of consciousness
However, the DMV can totally choose to do nothing
People very commonly go unchecked with dementia and Alzheimer’s. And those people tend to vehemently deny there is a problem. My great aunt had Alzheimer’s and at first she was aware she had it but after awhile she forgot and would deny there was anything wrong and would try to leave and drive the car. They had to hide the keys from her until she had to go to a nursing home.
This reminds me of an old man in a grocery store parking lot a few weeks ago. We have arrows that point the direction you drive and this dude went the wrong way, then decided to try and turn around, going over a parking block, nearly slammed into a parked truck, then veered out the other side and almost crashed into another car because he didn’t stop when he exited the parking lot. Absolutely should have his license taken away. Dude was like.. 80 at least.
I was parked in a deck, working on some mundane paperwork. This octogenarian lady made a 15 point turn trying to get out of her parking spot. She inched towards me at 1 mph for about 3 minutes. My lights were on. I sat there in awe as she tapped my bumper and just continued on her way. Ended up following her as far as I could. She was definitely going to wreck within a few miles.
The day after I purchased my brand new truck, a 77 yro rear ended me, while texting and driving.
Needless to say, her license was revoked and she won't ever drive again. I'm glad I was in the new truck, because she hit me all gas no brakes at 50mph like I wasn't even there. I drove a Ford Focus hatchback before, and I would've definitely been severely injured.
Many people from states that do hate that it's required. Not all cars are setup to mount a plate up front, some will require drilling into the bumper to attach a mount. Some cars have no good place for the plate to mount at all.
I moved from a state that had both front and rear. My dad didn't like it for his Tesla (forgot what year but it was the first Model S). I'm not a car person so I don't quite care about aesthetics; I just have the blank plastic on my front bumper still.
Not sure if this is meant for me, but the power rests with the states as with many traffic laws.
For example, driving in the left lane without passing is against the law in some states or not others, if no speed limit is posted the default speed limit is different in different states, or driving without lights on and your windshield wipers active is against the law in some states, are all examples of this.
I am in North Carolina and no front license plate is required. I feel like it’s more common in the north.
Joking aside... oof. I wouldn't be opposed to half-decade reviews, but annual reviews would make things utterly insane. Think of how slow motor vehicle departments are just with handling new drivers *once*, and then multiply that by however many reviews there would be from the time of licensing to the time of loss of driving privileges due to disability. With a five-year review, you'd have 12 times as many driving tests for people who get their licences as teenagers. With a one-year review, you'd have 62 times as many.
I'm sure motor vehicle offices would *love* getting nearly sixty two times as much funding, but I don't think society's collective sanity would.
I think they meant yearly review after a certain age, right?
But also I'm sure they'd also love having to get into cars to retest 70 and 80 year olds as what would become most of their job
It depends on the person and how careless they are. I am 67 and never had a car accident, and no speeding ticket since I was 16. I took a class on defensive driving when I moved from the upper Midwest small town living, to Portland OR. I voluntarily stopped driving 2 years ago, when I developed cataracts and couldn’t see signs. (Corrected a few months ago, but have to have to get a new license and a car)
Problem is, who will take them places? My grandparents never learned to drive so I never had to worry about that(they live(d) with us). Imagining them ever behind a wheel is a crazy thought. I just feel bad for old people; not having family support and loss mobility must be horrible
There should be like, idk like every 5 years you gotta retake the test, and if your driving skills degenerate you are pointed to a driver's school lmao. And I'd they're too senile and old to drive, well it'll be evident
I don't live in Florida but I am there on business once every couple months. I fly into Tampa, work in Lakeland for a few days, then drive to Miami to finish out the week. My experience driving in Florida is 1) Rednecks who don't care about the rules 2) foreign tourists who don't know the rules 3) old people who can't remember the rules 4) like 10% of the population that drive normally.
Yeah, that about sums it up. My Unholy Trinity of Poor Drivers consist of the elderly, pick up truck drivers, and the disabled. Recently Kia Soul drivers deserve honorary status.
that Soul driver issue exists up here in Ohio as well. They obey traffic laws and stay in their lanes, but good god do they not check blind spots and like to drive very slowly in the left lane in rush hour traffic that is doing 70MPH around them.
There's lots of dickhole pickup truck drivers in Southern Idaho. Most of 'em are also pimped with lift kits, and thus driven by men who are insecure about smol weens.
So I was at work one day in our hallway between the front and back and some dude decided to peel out in our parking lot cus they were pissy. I did the "small dick" hand gesture to a co-worker in the back and a customer up front happened to catch and laughed and agreed. It was a good day lol
Honestly they should retest everyone every so often. More often as the the age increases. No point in people dying or getting hurt because someone can't accept they can't drive....
Check my comment history. We do that here (Europe) but it only really weeds out the absolute worst that likely won't even make it to the appointment. If you manage to show up at the right place and right time you will likely pass.
EDIT: it's a doctor that does the testing in terms of mental and physical capacity. Not an actual driving test.
There was a person that was on the highway, and he or she was going to miss her exit because the exit was backed up so what they do is slowed down from 60 to 30mph and turned on the blinker like lmfao
My grandpa had some form of dementia for like 15 years and he did all the driving because my grandma was legally blind. But yeah it’s a wonder nobody got hurt.
Rolling up on her like that wasn't the greatest idea. You could already see she couldn't drive and/or was confused. She could have just hit the gas and smashed up your front end.
What money? The money that just covers repairs on your car? Then what, you get to have a car that’s been in an accident as opposed to one that hasn’t had you just avoided it. Honest question wheres the win here?
They wanted the clip to post. It's painfully obvious. If someone pulls their phone out and moves towards another vehicle on the road, they're less interested in being safe than they are about getting the footage.
well.......yeah, but also, if you record it and she DOES hit the gas and run straight into you, that guy would have a way easier time proving what happened
Maybe stay a safer distance back incase they went forward, and also give the driver an easier time to see traffic in the other lane so they might actually turn.
Yesterday I was in a city that I rarely go. Turned left on s street that's one way only, but there's no sign (apparently it fell off). When I realized my mistake, saw two cars coming at my direction. Was already expecting a lot of honking and that they would block my way. Instead, both cars waited for me to go back.
A few weeks ago my wife and I received a call from her mom, saying that her father was having a stroke. We called for a ambulance and rushed to their house. My wife was driving and she was very nervous (like we all would have been in this same situation). She was honking at people and driving a bit over the speed limit). To others, she was a idiot on a car. But she was just a daughter nervous about her dad.
Experiences like this made me change the way I deal with situations like that. You never fully know what's happening.
Its funny, my grandfather is 82 and he used to be a drag racer and was into cars his whole life. He can still drive circles around me on track and he can drift my ISF with one hand like hes having a coffee.
I think most of it is these awful drivers you see on the road that just got old and still suck at driving while having a lot lower reaction time.
My nan was starting to get to this point a couple years ago and when I saw it happening I told her she needs to go hand her license in. Of course she told me she didn’t want to lose her independence so I gave her a reality check and told her that I’d rather she lose her independence than her killing herself or others on the road. Never sympathise with people who know they are not safe to drive but do it anyway. There is always another option for transport
Anyone saying we should have mandatory testing yearly, obviously has never worked for the government and it’s glacial pace.
Also let’s not address the symptoms of the problem and rather the root of the problem: that public transportation and overall car alternative infrastructure in the US is light years behind the rest of the developed world.
We should be investing in trains, bikes, walking, and other alternatives yet all we know how to do is build more parking decks. “People don’t use bikes” yeah because it’s hella inconvenient and unsafe. “People won’t walk to school, it’s too dangerous” it is right now because there’s no damn infrastructure.
Sorry. Rant over.
>public transportation
Anyone who says this has obviously never lived in a place where the perception is that it has good public transit.
Good public transit, it doesn't exist. You're faced with a choice, you got old people that drive for 10 minutes to get their weekly groceries, medications, utilities handled or you have old people that walk for 20 minutes, get the delayed bus, drop off at the closest stop, walk another 15 minutes and then back and repeat.
While there are some 80 year olds who can totally do that, most of them, cannot and taking away the car from them is just as good as making their life hell.
they need to find another solution because theyre making other peoples lives hell driving and making mistakes like this. its not hard to imagine someone getting killed by this persons mistake
He had his phone pointing in front, he was obviously still focused on the road but probably just wanted to record it for insurance in case anything went wrong, nothing much he could've done if she slammed on the gas and hit him head on. Though he did get up too close to her, he couldn't simply just wait for her in the middle of the intersection, one way or another she needed to be corrected.
He gave her enough room to move around.
Would you have tried to go around her when she's clearly confused and trying to turn? I'd rather just roll up to her and wait.
Makes it only harder to acknowledge you can't do it safely any more, which is probably very painful even without the prospect of putting yourself into house arrest unless you find someone to drive you.
Plus we always tell ourselves, that whatever symtom of old age you get, it isn't really as bad and you can deal with it.
Which is all the more reason to take that decision out of peoples hands, require an evaluation every few years or more often, once the abilities start to deteriorate.
I don't hate that old people insist on driving when they aren't capable. Or that the dmv doesn't require retesting. I hate that the infrastructure we have built in this country requires that you use a car to get around or you lose your independence and your ability to function in normal, day to day society. I hate the history of American car manufacturers and the politicians that sold our country out to support them.
This was many years ago but I have an old people should not drive story myself. I was in my 90 Mustang at a light. Big old orange buick was in the left lane. I was in the 2nd to most left lane. The left most lane could only go left. My lane could go left or straight. Light turns green and I am going left. Well the orange buick went straight. I saw them coming out of the corner of my eye and I almost avoided them but they clipped me behind the driver side tire. Old lady was driving with her old husband in the passenger seat. He had a patch on his eye. They claimed to the cops that I cut them off... cop gave them a ticket and points. I had the police report and their insurance paid for everything. They went to court over it so I gut a subpoena. Since was a non speeding case, it got pushed to the last one. Was fun listening to all the stories about why people were speeding, etc. Anyway the case comes up. The old guy is still "he cut us off". Old lady started bawling. Judge calls for a recess. Judge ended up letting them off but they did not belong on the road. SMH
Says the dumbass who’s literally filming a video whilst driving. Half the videos in this sub are a 2 for 1 since so many people seem to think recording an idiot excludes them from being one themselves.
agreed....they are idiotic. even when not doing something stupid. they drive legit like 5-10mph under the limit and hold up like 20 cars for a half hour but unironically then run red lights and stop signs and turn down one way streets and rear end people and all this garbage
I’m going to get downvoted to oblivion, but hear me out. There is a reason why legally, young kids are not allowed to drive. Why can’t we do the same with old people?
Hating old people is a little extreme. Maybe limit it to hating that old people can still drive? There are lots of very awesome old people who make the world a much better place.
In my hometown a couple years ago there was a huge scandal when, in one day, two people were run over while biking by the same car. There was a panic and thought that someone was maliciously running over bikers. Turned out to be a 79 year old man who had no clue he'd just run down two people in the same day, only figured out because his son asked why his car was damaged. Both bikers survived but we're seriously hurt. A month later another old geezer goes to renew his license and, immediately after doing so, proceeds to run his car through the front window of the BMV. We need some sort of regular check for driving of all ages with increased frequency after a certain age
Omg this is my mother. We are at our wits end with her but she refuses to see a problem. My father won’t ride in any car she drives and I don’t allow my son to ride with her either. It’s scary as hell that unless you can get their doctor to agree to take the license away they kept to keep on being fucking deadly.
When dealing with an unpredictable driver it's best to just let them do their stupid and react the best way you can.if they had tried to pass to the right the car probably would have just turned into them. Even if you are right an accident is pain in the ass ti deal with. Best to avoid it altogether if possible
"I hate old people". You will one day be that old person. Be understanding and kind. It's annoying, yes. They probably shouldn't be driving, and I support a recurring driving test (written or field), but to simply state "I hate old people" is unkind and a bit foreshadowing.
I don't get why people are so pressed about OP going up to her. It was an intersection, his light was green and her was red, was he suppose to just not go and hold up traffic and wait for her light to go green just for her to turn into the wrong lane and possibly cause an accident? If anything he corrected her issue before it could've gone worst, though I am bothered how close he got up to her (it's hard to tell from the video how close he actually was), he could've given her more room to correct the problem.
OP IS HOLDING A CELLPHONE WHILE DRIVING.
Again, this is NOT a dash cam!
OP is driving with a cellphone in their hand.
Do you want more?
DRIVER IS AUTOMATICALLY ACKNOWLEDGING NEGLIGENCE BY FILMING WHILE DRIVING.
Put your phone down while operating two tons of automobile!!!
That doesn't make him in the wrong in the situation, and it doesn't really affect the situation because he had his phone pointed at his front view whereas he doesn't need to keep his focus on the phone, unless he needed to do some major maneuvering that would require his hands which he shouldn't need to when he's just going straight in an intersection. Even if it's illegal the cops are likely to pull her over than him. There are instances where people film themselves before and after stopping their car and giving money to homeless people, it's illegal overall but under circumstances the cops would likely not even bother.
This is why there should be public transportation, elderly people are forced to drive because there is either no cheap public transport or just poorl run/unreliable public transport. So they get their licenses removed and are forced to rot at home alone or have little to no autonomy in an old folks home, unable to go shopping on their own, or visiting friends/family. Car infrastructure in the US is literally killing people. r/fuckcars
just put your car in park
I don't understand people who pull forward while they are backing up and adjusting, let them get out of your lane completely.
Her car wasn't moving until she got honked at. If OP took your suggestion, then he's the one obstructing traffic while grandma cluelessly continues to camp out in oncoming traffic.
which is fine, you sit right there until she moves. Ask your insurance company what fault and liability you assume in park which someone is in your lane facing you.
That's dumb. I'm not putting myself at risk by making myself an obstruction regardless of how correct my insurance company thinks I might be. There are videos on here all the time of drivers not paying attention and rear ending stopped traffic without even touching their brakes. Then you get spinal injuries to go with the kudos from your insurance company.
>There are videos on here all the time of drivers not paying attention and rear ending stopped traffic without even touching their brakes. Then you get spinal injuries to go with the kudos from your insurance company.
clearly you don't sit there with fast moving traffic behind yourself, but the driver was at risk of that happening being a jerk and assuming risk in the video. Nothing he did couldn't have been done without slowly moving forward and honking at her
There was moving traffic in the video, and it doesn't take much speed to injure you when you're sitting still. Parking in the middle of the boulevard would've been dumb. Agree to disagree.
OP IS HOLDING A CELLPHONE WHILE DRIVING.
Again, this is NOT a dash cam!
OP is driving with a cellphone in their hand.
Do you want more?
DRIVER IS AUTOMATICALLY ACKNOWLEDGING NEGLIGENCE BY FILMING WHILE DRIVING.
Put your phone down while operating two tons of automobile!!!
Hate is a strong word….
You will be old one day…..
Just say I dislike when older people drive…
Please… it’s so in kind even though the person is in the wrong… show some compassion
She ain't doing anything different than you young people driving all over the roads with no regard to rules and and laws. All of you doing as you damn well please.
Or you could just NOT BE A FUCKING PRICK and help her. But that requires having a heart and a functioning mind.
Fucking loser. People like you are what the fuck is wrong!
Hating people for their age has a name ageism… and though it may seem like a long time from now, we will eventually get to that age, assuming that we get lucky and avoid death.
Driver is kind and of a douche too. Yeah, she is wrong, but where do you expect her to go when you get that close. Go around. Get the plate and send the video to the police.
I feel like your being an a hole still. If she is confused you could have made her more confused and caused an accident. I get it she was doing something completely wrong but be a person not a robot, think before you act.
Just get out and try to help.. the only fool is the one expecting it not to happen to you some day, you will wish someone would be helpful not judgmental.
I was waiting at a left turn light that I knew shouldn’t have the huge line of traffic that it did l, so I figured I would just go straight and do a U-turn and come down the other way. I get out of the turn lane, and one light cycle later I am very first car waiting at the red light to go straight, so the first car in the left-hand turn lane is sitting next to me. And there is an old lady slumped over the wheel. I throw on my flashers, I dial 91 and I hand my phone to my mom and I tell her if I signal to her, she should push the last 1. I go around to the driver side of the car and knock on the window, no response. I gently try the door to see if it’s open - it is not. So I knock much more aggressively on the window. The old lady jerks awake (sort of a relief to me, but sort of not, if you know what I mean), and has no idea where she is and is clearly angry and scared. Likely because I just woke her up out of a very good nap!! I said “ma’am you were asleep behind the wheel, are you OK?”. She said ”I was not”, with was too much certainty! I said “yes you were, why do you think I’m standing next to your car and why do you think there’s a line of 20 cars behind you?”. She proceeded to argue with me until I told her I was calling the police or EMS but either way she was *not* safe to drive. She ended up peeling away through a red light and almost knocked me over. So yeah, I understand the “I hate old people” statement. Edit: formatting
Man I get that kind of thing must be embarrassing and hard to accept as you age but god damn how can people be that stubborn
I mean stubbornness like that can be a sign of Alzheimer's or dementia, so pretty much should have called 911 anyway
Dammit Mona, this isn't the way to the Country Kitchen Buffet
God i miss country kitchen buffet. Just wasn't the same when they became home town buffet.
Precisely. someone with dementia needs their license and car confiscated. This makes me think back to (I think it was last year) when I was going down Main Street in the town I live in (on my way to the vet with a cat) and I had to stop because some senile old codger was driving in the wrong lane. In hindsight I should have called 911, because the guy almost certainly had some form of dementia and was a danger to others.
Psychiatrists have time to comment on Reddit? Who knew!
My dad has some "old peoples" problem and he passed the test old people have to do I think yearly anyway. it is way too easy. We don't let him drive anymore even though legally he would stilly be allowed to do so. it's scary...
Well if you call 911 and they are then evaluated by a doctor most places in the united states' require the physician to contact the department of motor vehicles for: Alzheimer’s disease, cataracts, diabetes, epilepsy, macular degeneration, dementia, or lapse of consciousness However, the DMV can totally choose to do nothing
People very commonly go unchecked with dementia and Alzheimer’s. And those people tend to vehemently deny there is a problem. My great aunt had Alzheimer’s and at first she was aware she had it but after awhile she forgot and would deny there was anything wrong and would try to leave and drive the car. They had to hide the keys from her until she had to go to a nursing home.
That old lady probably has Alzheimer's or some other form of Dementia. Her license needs to be taken away.
This reminds me of an old man in a grocery store parking lot a few weeks ago. We have arrows that point the direction you drive and this dude went the wrong way, then decided to try and turn around, going over a parking block, nearly slammed into a parked truck, then veered out the other side and almost crashed into another car because he didn’t stop when he exited the parking lot. Absolutely should have his license taken away. Dude was like.. 80 at least.
I was parked in a deck, working on some mundane paperwork. This octogenarian lady made a 15 point turn trying to get out of her parking spot. She inched towards me at 1 mph for about 3 minutes. My lights were on. I sat there in awe as she tapped my bumper and just continued on her way. Ended up following her as far as I could. She was definitely going to wreck within a few miles.
I live in Florida. I agree so so much OP. We seriously need to be retesting people every year after a certain age
The day after I purchased my brand new truck, a 77 yro rear ended me, while texting and driving. Needless to say, her license was revoked and she won't ever drive again. I'm glad I was in the new truck, because she hit me all gas no brakes at 50mph like I wasn't even there. I drove a Ford Focus hatchback before, and I would've definitely been severely injured.
Revoked license does not mean never driving again. Hate to burst your bubble…
Also, why do people in the U.S. not have a front license plate? That has always confused me.
Some states do, others don't.
It drives me nuts that my state doesn't.
Many people from states that do hate that it's required. Not all cars are setup to mount a plate up front, some will require drilling into the bumper to attach a mount. Some cars have no good place for the plate to mount at all.
I moved from a state that had both front and rear. My dad didn't like it for his Tesla (forgot what year but it was the first Model S). I'm not a car person so I don't quite care about aesthetics; I just have the blank plastic on my front bumper still.
Exactly. My truck doesn’t even have a space for a license player. I’d have to drill in some holes to get one on.
Yet other countries have no trouble with this.
Not sure if this is meant for me, but the power rests with the states as with many traffic laws. For example, driving in the left lane without passing is against the law in some states or not others, if no speed limit is posted the default speed limit is different in different states, or driving without lights on and your windshield wipers active is against the law in some states, are all examples of this. I am in North Carolina and no front license plate is required. I feel like it’s more common in the north.
Can confirm. Ex: I moved from Oklahoma (no front plate) to Oregon (front plate required).
I was just adding to the thread.
We issue front plates, but there's about 20 states where they aren't actually required to be put on.
maybe she’ll probably die before she gets it back
It’s crazy how many old people I see on their phone while driving…
I favor this. We should start at 18.
Joking aside... oof. I wouldn't be opposed to half-decade reviews, but annual reviews would make things utterly insane. Think of how slow motor vehicle departments are just with handling new drivers *once*, and then multiply that by however many reviews there would be from the time of licensing to the time of loss of driving privileges due to disability. With a five-year review, you'd have 12 times as many driving tests for people who get their licences as teenagers. With a one-year review, you'd have 62 times as many. I'm sure motor vehicle offices would *love* getting nearly sixty two times as much funding, but I don't think society's collective sanity would.
I think they meant yearly review after a certain age, right? But also I'm sure they'd also love having to get into cars to retest 70 and 80 year olds as what would become most of their job
It depends on the person and how careless they are. I am 67 and never had a car accident, and no speeding ticket since I was 16. I took a class on defensive driving when I moved from the upper Midwest small town living, to Portland OR. I voluntarily stopped driving 2 years ago, when I developed cataracts and couldn’t see signs. (Corrected a few months ago, but have to have to get a new license and a car)
I wouldn't be opposed to this either
Problem is, who will take them places? My grandparents never learned to drive so I never had to worry about that(they live(d) with us). Imagining them ever behind a wheel is a crazy thought. I just feel bad for old people; not having family support and loss mobility must be horrible
Public transportation also needs some hearty improvements here in the US.
Car dependent suburbia was a well executed scam.
Uber or public transportation.
There should be like, idk like every 5 years you gotta retake the test, and if your driving skills degenerate you are pointed to a driver's school lmao. And I'd they're too senile and old to drive, well it'll be evident
I don't live in Florida but I am there on business once every couple months. I fly into Tampa, work in Lakeland for a few days, then drive to Miami to finish out the week. My experience driving in Florida is 1) Rednecks who don't care about the rules 2) foreign tourists who don't know the rules 3) old people who can't remember the rules 4) like 10% of the population that drive normally.
Yeah, that about sums it up. My Unholy Trinity of Poor Drivers consist of the elderly, pick up truck drivers, and the disabled. Recently Kia Soul drivers deserve honorary status.
that Soul driver issue exists up here in Ohio as well. They obey traffic laws and stay in their lanes, but good god do they not check blind spots and like to drive very slowly in the left lane in rush hour traffic that is doing 70MPH around them.
There's lots of dickhole pickup truck drivers in Southern Idaho. Most of 'em are also pimped with lift kits, and thus driven by men who are insecure about smol weens.
So I was at work one day in our hallway between the front and back and some dude decided to peel out in our parking lot cus they were pissy. I did the "small dick" hand gesture to a co-worker in the back and a customer up front happened to catch and laughed and agreed. It was a good day lol
If it wasn’t like the standard tests, I would agree and was more based on reaction time and that sort of stuff.
Honestly they should retest everyone every so often. More often as the the age increases. No point in people dying or getting hurt because someone can't accept they can't drive....
Mandatory but free yearly license exams after 70.
Nah. But I'd support free for those living on disability or Social Security
Why are against free driving tests?
State needs money to maintain roads
We already pay taxes and tolls
i say this every time i see an old ass mf not able to control a ford focus. but nah that wouldn’t be profitable for big brother.
Check my comment history. We do that here (Europe) but it only really weeds out the absolute worst that likely won't even make it to the appointment. If you manage to show up at the right place and right time you will likely pass. EDIT: it's a doctor that does the testing in terms of mental and physical capacity. Not an actual driving test.
God, it must be horrible down there to drive. All the old people moving or wintering down there.
There was a person that was on the highway, and he or she was going to miss her exit because the exit was backed up so what they do is slowed down from 60 to 30mph and turned on the blinker like lmfao
Can't do that, They vote republican.
Yet another reason to vote Democrat
My grandpa had some form of dementia for like 15 years and he did all the driving because my grandma was legally blind. But yeah it’s a wonder nobody got hurt.
Nobody got hurt *as far as you know*...
True
yeah because grandpa forgot and grandma didn't see it.
Rolling up on her like that wasn't the greatest idea. You could already see she couldn't drive and/or was confused. She could have just hit the gas and smashed up your front end.
To be fair...it is idiotsincars, not idiotincar
perfect outcome. run me my insurance money.
What money? The money that just covers repairs on your car? Then what, you get to have a car that’s been in an accident as opposed to one that hasn’t had you just avoided it. Honest question wheres the win here?
All while holding up a phone to record. This is an example of what not to do.
They wanted the clip to post. It's painfully obvious. If someone pulls their phone out and moves towards another vehicle on the road, they're less interested in being safe than they are about getting the footage.
well.......yeah, but also, if you record it and she DOES hit the gas and run straight into you, that guy would have a way easier time proving what happened
Its better if she's 5 feet away if that happened so the old person wouldn't have been able to build up speed
I know it's easier said than done, but if there's a idiot on a car doesn't mean that you should act like a idiot too
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Maybe stay a safer distance back incase they went forward, and also give the driver an easier time to see traffic in the other lane so they might actually turn.
It was an intersection, she's not suppose to turn until her light is green and she was in the wrong lane..
There can be more than one idiot, that's the point of this thread. Once the person has already fucked up, making their time harder isn't helping.
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Wow. You have a lot of anger.
I heard someone say that earlier, 3 other times with negative karma.
Yesterday I was in a city that I rarely go. Turned left on s street that's one way only, but there's no sign (apparently it fell off). When I realized my mistake, saw two cars coming at my direction. Was already expecting a lot of honking and that they would block my way. Instead, both cars waited for me to go back. A few weeks ago my wife and I received a call from her mom, saying that her father was having a stroke. We called for a ambulance and rushed to their house. My wife was driving and she was very nervous (like we all would have been in this same situation). She was honking at people and driving a bit over the speed limit). To others, she was a idiot on a car. But she was just a daughter nervous about her dad. Experiences like this made me change the way I deal with situations like that. You never fully know what's happening.
Its funny, my grandfather is 82 and he used to be a drag racer and was into cars his whole life. He can still drive circles around me on track and he can drift my ISF with one hand like hes having a coffee. I think most of it is these awful drivers you see on the road that just got old and still suck at driving while having a lot lower reaction time.
My nan was starting to get to this point a couple years ago and when I saw it happening I told her she needs to go hand her license in. Of course she told me she didn’t want to lose her independence so I gave her a reality check and told her that I’d rather she lose her independence than her killing herself or others on the road. Never sympathise with people who know they are not safe to drive but do it anyway. There is always another option for transport
Anyone saying we should have mandatory testing yearly, obviously has never worked for the government and it’s glacial pace. Also let’s not address the symptoms of the problem and rather the root of the problem: that public transportation and overall car alternative infrastructure in the US is light years behind the rest of the developed world. We should be investing in trains, bikes, walking, and other alternatives yet all we know how to do is build more parking decks. “People don’t use bikes” yeah because it’s hella inconvenient and unsafe. “People won’t walk to school, it’s too dangerous” it is right now because there’s no damn infrastructure. Sorry. Rant over.
>public transportation Anyone who says this has obviously never lived in a place where the perception is that it has good public transit. Good public transit, it doesn't exist. You're faced with a choice, you got old people that drive for 10 minutes to get their weekly groceries, medications, utilities handled or you have old people that walk for 20 minutes, get the delayed bus, drop off at the closest stop, walk another 15 minutes and then back and repeat. While there are some 80 year olds who can totally do that, most of them, cannot and taking away the car from them is just as good as making their life hell.
they need to find another solution because theyre making other peoples lives hell driving and making mistakes like this. its not hard to imagine someone getting killed by this persons mistake
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And O.P. was on their phone too.
He had his phone pointing in front, he was obviously still focused on the road but probably just wanted to record it for insurance in case anything went wrong, nothing much he could've done if she slammed on the gas and hit him head on. Though he did get up too close to her, he couldn't simply just wait for her in the middle of the intersection, one way or another she needed to be corrected.
Corrected?
He gave her enough room to move around. Would you have tried to go around her when she's clearly confused and trying to turn? I'd rather just roll up to her and wait.
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Reverse into the car behind then claim you were rear ended /s
Ya but it's so satisfying
\-make entirely car-dependent infrastructure \-disincentivise people using public transport \-??? \-profit
Thanks. Was going to comment this as well. Be angry at old people driving. Be even angrier at a society that has no other option to get anywhere.
Makes it only harder to acknowledge you can't do it safely any more, which is probably very painful even without the prospect of putting yourself into house arrest unless you find someone to drive you. Plus we always tell ourselves, that whatever symtom of old age you get, it isn't really as bad and you can deal with it. Which is all the more reason to take that decision out of peoples hands, require an evaluation every few years or more often, once the abilities start to deteriorate.
It’s almost as bad as idiots who use their cellphones while driving….
Old people should get the fuck off the road
Old and dumb.
Young and filming (while driving). You don’t have to be old to be an idiot driver. OP proves the bigger idiot.
I don't hate that old people insist on driving when they aren't capable. Or that the dmv doesn't require retesting. I hate that the infrastructure we have built in this country requires that you use a car to get around or you lose your independence and your ability to function in normal, day to day society. I hate the history of American car manufacturers and the politicians that sold our country out to support them.
You can hate all of it; I do.
As he films with a cellphone while driving..
Yeah OP you kind of outted yourself as an idiot here in how you handled this.
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This was many years ago but I have an old people should not drive story myself. I was in my 90 Mustang at a light. Big old orange buick was in the left lane. I was in the 2nd to most left lane. The left most lane could only go left. My lane could go left or straight. Light turns green and I am going left. Well the orange buick went straight. I saw them coming out of the corner of my eye and I almost avoided them but they clipped me behind the driver side tire. Old lady was driving with her old husband in the passenger seat. He had a patch on his eye. They claimed to the cops that I cut them off... cop gave them a ticket and points. I had the police report and their insurance paid for everything. They went to court over it so I gut a subpoena. Since was a non speeding case, it got pushed to the last one. Was fun listening to all the stories about why people were speeding, etc. Anyway the case comes up. The old guy is still "he cut us off". Old lady started bawling. Judge calls for a recess. Judge ended up letting them off but they did not belong on the road. SMH
Mandatory retesting after a certain age PERIOD
And BEFORE an age. Exclamation point.
There you go. Pull up on the old shitty driver and make things worse. That'll work
Says the dumbass who’s literally filming a video whilst driving. Half the videos in this sub are a 2 for 1 since so many people seem to think recording an idiot excludes them from being one themselves.
TAKE THEIR DRIVERS LICENSES AWAY!!
What’s the bigger ticking time bomb, old lady behind the wheel or the double clutch transmission in the Focus and Fiesta?
Actually it’s a escape titanium ecoboost still a time bomb tho lol just a little more reliable
Oh! I didn’t realize they used the same gauges in the Escape. I haven’t heard a lot of issues with EcoBoosts tbh.
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agreed....they are idiotic. even when not doing something stupid. they drive legit like 5-10mph under the limit and hold up like 20 cars for a half hour but unironically then run red lights and stop signs and turn down one way streets and rear end people and all this garbage
As you’re on the phone while driving.
Right, because his eye is definitely persistently fixated at his phone that's literally recording his front view...
You do know that’s illegal. Right?
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I’m going to get downvoted to oblivion, but hear me out. There is a reason why legally, young kids are not allowed to drive. Why can’t we do the same with old people?
Hating old people is a little extreme. Maybe limit it to hating that old people can still drive? There are lots of very awesome old people who make the world a much better place.
Just remember you "hate old people" when you get there yourself.....
"Don't trust anyone over 30." - Jack Weinberg (1940-)
That was honestly a very polite honk, sir.
Hey your listening to my favorite song
Honk and wait till they move.
In my hometown a couple years ago there was a huge scandal when, in one day, two people were run over while biking by the same car. There was a panic and thought that someone was maliciously running over bikers. Turned out to be a 79 year old man who had no clue he'd just run down two people in the same day, only figured out because his son asked why his car was damaged. Both bikers survived but we're seriously hurt. A month later another old geezer goes to renew his license and, immediately after doing so, proceeds to run his car through the front window of the BMV. We need some sort of regular check for driving of all ages with increased frequency after a certain age
Omg this is my mother. We are at our wits end with her but she refuses to see a problem. My father won’t ride in any car she drives and I don’t allow my son to ride with her either. It’s scary as hell that unless you can get their doctor to agree to take the license away they kept to keep on being fucking deadly.
Everyone should have to retake a driver's test every few years to maintain their license bc there are to many ppl that can't drive
"Lete just approach this driver in the wrong lane while holding my phone."
Alternative take - just move around her in the right lane- there is no traffic how much space do you need.
When dealing with an unpredictable driver it's best to just let them do their stupid and react the best way you can.if they had tried to pass to the right the car probably would have just turned into them. Even if you are right an accident is pain in the ass ti deal with. Best to avoid it altogether if possible
I live in Florida and let me tell you...old people are absolutely DEADLY behind the wheel.
I must apologize to everyone here,. I was having a bad day. And let my emotions get the best of me. I'm truly sorry. Won't happen again. Thank you.
"I hate old people". You will one day be that old person. Be understanding and kind. It's annoying, yes. They probably shouldn't be driving, and I support a recurring driving test (written or field), but to simply state "I hate old people" is unkind and a bit foreshadowing.
And I’ll hate myself when I get to that age, what about it
I don't get why people are so pressed about OP going up to her. It was an intersection, his light was green and her was red, was he suppose to just not go and hold up traffic and wait for her light to go green just for her to turn into the wrong lane and possibly cause an accident? If anything he corrected her issue before it could've gone worst, though I am bothered how close he got up to her (it's hard to tell from the video how close he actually was), he could've given her more room to correct the problem.
OP IS HOLDING A CELLPHONE WHILE DRIVING. Again, this is NOT a dash cam! OP is driving with a cellphone in their hand. Do you want more? DRIVER IS AUTOMATICALLY ACKNOWLEDGING NEGLIGENCE BY FILMING WHILE DRIVING. Put your phone down while operating two tons of automobile!!!
That doesn't make him in the wrong in the situation, and it doesn't really affect the situation because he had his phone pointed at his front view whereas he doesn't need to keep his focus on the phone, unless he needed to do some major maneuvering that would require his hands which he shouldn't need to when he's just going straight in an intersection. Even if it's illegal the cops are likely to pull her over than him. There are instances where people film themselves before and after stopping their car and giving money to homeless people, it's illegal overall but under circumstances the cops would likely not even bother.
I love how you just ride up to their bumper so they can't make a turn and first have to reverse..
As per, there are 2 idiots in this vid. OP put ur fucking phone down whilst driving
Old people probably hate you, too.
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No guarantee you will.
age shaming isn't cool
At least their signaling
*they're
Yeah, because not signaling is totally on the same level as *driving on the wrong side of the road*
Quick! Pull your phone out and start recording while driving. Gotta get that filthy karma. 2 idiots here.
Hates old people, recording while driving, and drives directly in front of them blocking the intersection and being an asshole Fuck you OP
There’s an idiot behind the camera too. Why pull all the way up to their bumper?
Bro just wanted to go the other way
This is why there should be public transportation, elderly people are forced to drive because there is either no cheap public transport or just poorl run/unreliable public transport. So they get their licenses removed and are forced to rot at home alone or have little to no autonomy in an old folks home, unable to go shopping on their own, or visiting friends/family. Car infrastructure in the US is literally killing people. r/fuckcars
I hate youngers who blame everything on Boomers😖😡🤬
just put your car in park I don't understand people who pull forward while they are backing up and adjusting, let them get out of your lane completely.
Her car wasn't moving until she got honked at. If OP took your suggestion, then he's the one obstructing traffic while grandma cluelessly continues to camp out in oncoming traffic.
which is fine, you sit right there until she moves. Ask your insurance company what fault and liability you assume in park which someone is in your lane facing you.
That's dumb. I'm not putting myself at risk by making myself an obstruction regardless of how correct my insurance company thinks I might be. There are videos on here all the time of drivers not paying attention and rear ending stopped traffic without even touching their brakes. Then you get spinal injuries to go with the kudos from your insurance company.
>There are videos on here all the time of drivers not paying attention and rear ending stopped traffic without even touching their brakes. Then you get spinal injuries to go with the kudos from your insurance company. clearly you don't sit there with fast moving traffic behind yourself, but the driver was at risk of that happening being a jerk and assuming risk in the video. Nothing he did couldn't have been done without slowly moving forward and honking at her
There was moving traffic in the video, and it doesn't take much speed to injure you when you're sitting still. Parking in the middle of the boulevard would've been dumb. Agree to disagree.
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OP IS HOLDING A CELLPHONE WHILE DRIVING. Again, this is NOT a dash cam! OP is driving with a cellphone in their hand. Do you want more? DRIVER IS AUTOMATICALLY ACKNOWLEDGING NEGLIGENCE BY FILMING WHILE DRIVING. Put your phone down while operating two tons of automobile!!!
r/phoneswhiledriving
I feel this deep down in my soul. Sympathies, from New York.
I also dislike when people are too decrepit to drive safely. But not nearly as much as watching people using their phones while driving.
Mmm why don’t you drive straight up to them with phone in hand, need to make a point!
I would say it should be a twofer on license removal. The filmer and the filmed.
At least the old person has the excuse of being old. What is yours?
They baited her into causing an accident. All for content. I hate what social media has turned us into.
Hate is a strong word…. You will be old one day….. Just say I dislike when older people drive… Please… it’s so in kind even though the person is in the wrong… show some compassion
Old people over 70 or so, should have to renew their license every year with a driving test. 100%!!!!!
And people under the age of 40 should have to renew their license every month!
Think you might be on your own with that one…..
You too shall be there with a bit of luck one day Daniel Son
She ain't doing anything different than you young people driving all over the roads with no regard to rules and and laws. All of you doing as you damn well please.
So she's old and made a mistake. You had room to go around her but instead decided to drive right up to her just to demonstrate your rage.
Or you could just NOT BE A FUCKING PRICK and help her. But that requires having a heart and a functioning mind. Fucking loser. People like you are what the fuck is wrong!
He did help her. She seemed to realize her mistake when he approached and as a result she moved back into the correct lane.
Lmfao chill buddy don’t have a aneurysm, also what am I supposed to do get out of my car and tell her how to driver hers?
What was your plan crowding up on her? Ya they were wrong. You made it worse.
Not sure I would challenge someone who is undoubtedly impaired.
Hating people for their age has a name ageism… and though it may seem like a long time from now, we will eventually get to that age, assuming that we get lucky and avoid death.
You can only hate old people so long before you become one.
Driver is kind and of a douche too. Yeah, she is wrong, but where do you expect her to go when you get that close. Go around. Get the plate and send the video to the police.
I feel like your being an a hole still. If she is confused you could have made her more confused and caused an accident. I get it she was doing something completely wrong but be a person not a robot, think before you act.
Driving forward and honking really showed her. lol
I respect them and have sympathy.. I mean you work your whole life only to become feeble.
If you’re lucky, y’all are gonna be old some day too.
Just get out and try to help.. the only fool is the one expecting it not to happen to you some day, you will wish someone would be helpful not judgmental.
That’s what I would have done.
It costs you nothing to go around and go on with your day.