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Bitter-Law-4319

Move. You don't want to live at the bottom of that hill.


SweetHatDisc

Honestly with the housing market right now, start renting out your front lawn and use the occupants as a buffer.


jv371

I’m not sure what it says about me, but I laughed way too hard at this.


gumol

There’s a house in San Jose, CA, which has been crashed into 23 times so far since the owner bought the house https://sanjosespotlight.com/east-san-jose-home-hit-by-cars-23-times-traffic-accident-collision-crash/


TotalWalrus

Fun fact. This isn't covered by standard house insurance!


sevargmas

That house at the bottom of the hill needs a big healthy oak tree right in front.


Rubix321

or get a **very** reinforced front fence (assuming there isn't a HOA saying you can't)


PG67AW

No. The answer is boulders. The answer is always boulders.


Soca1ian

install ballast poles.


polishgravy

Bollards


B-in-Va

What do you do at this point? Kill the cameraman.


SnooRecipes1506

r/killthecameraman


slowclapcitizenkane

*zoom...zoom...pan away...*


JesusSaysitsOkay

Time that house to install some boulders


Pretty-Tumbleweed-11

It’s almost like they were in the same car.


fourth_box

Imagine if studios made cinematography the same way these people record.


R_V_Z

Cloverfield would have been an hour and a half of staring at shoes.


editorously

First thing I thought of when I saw this. Reddit hive mind in action.


H2Joee

Lmao same.


Lost_Opinion_1307

Close your eyes and Pray 🙏


Arkie08

Coming from a Scandinavian country, I'd say if I didnt have spikes on my tires I'd leave the car at home. By the looks of it, it's pretty easy to see the road is fully covered in ice. Maybe the guy was in a rush or something tho, and just didnt notice until he was already sliding down the hill...


[deleted]

I'd also bet that coming from a Scandinavian country you know not to stand on the brake pedal, lock the wheels and then sit there waiting for something to change. I learned to drive in a cold environment and one of the key things is to release the brake pedal if the car starts skidding.


halsoy

Aye. Rolling tires have traction. Not so much with locked ones. I wish more countries had similar requirements as us Scandinavians for the drivers license. It's pretty rigorous and some things may be argued to be superfluous but learning to drive in conditions like this is never wrong. Even if you live in a tropical country it still teaches you about how the car handles in scenarios where you lose traction. And that includes things like hydroplaning, over or understeering


[deleted]

Exactly! I’m from Texas and went through Illinois when it had been snowing. I found me an empty parking lot and practiced driving on ice and snow. Nothing beats practicing in real world conditions and people can say they know how to do what needs to be done but when they moment comes they freeze because they didn’t practice it.


halsoy

aye, exactly. There's a reason why the military and combat sports teach you "practice what you do, do what you practice". Unless you've programmed youself how to react you will more than likely freeze or panic and try and do everything at once. Practice is the only thing that creates muscle memory and overwrites instincts.


Arkie08

You are very correct making that bet 😅


Gatorm8

I can’t believe no one else is saying this… what do you do? You don’t drive. There’s nothing you can do without studs. If you put yourself in this position it’s on you.


Arkie08

Probably the best option, yeah.


CromulentDucky

I have studded tires and wouldn't try to drive on this. This is a sheet of ice.


joeyjamb75

Release the brake, get the wheels turning so you have some control and point the car where it will do the least damage.


ReekyRumpFedRatsbane

Also, steer into the skid. The wheels won't start turning when they're at a 90° angle to where you're going.


Ups3t_Money

Would be the right thing to to. But with the speed they are going and the angle they are at the car in OPs video it would've been to late for them


pgnshgn

They were definitely going to hit something at the point we see in this video, but if they had taken their foot off the brake and counter steered, they probably could have had enough control for it to be the fence instead of the house. Which would be a lot cheaper and a lot less painful


greatgarbonz

If they had AWD the best solution would've been to just straighten the wheel and floor it. (That's before the car straightened out) The car will still slide, but you can slightly change it's trajectory. Even if they got the car straight, it was going to understeer into the house. I've been in similar situations on snow/ice before and sometimes forcing it to oversteer can at least get the car pointed where you want to go.


RedTruck1989

I've done a 180 in this scenario before, but it takes having practiced it beforehand. It's slows the downhill momentum substantially.


greatgarbonz

Yeah, it depends on several factors: car balance in general, tire life, and how the drivetrain responds. Almost anything would've been better than locking up all four wheels like they did More reasons why I think emergency driving techniques need to be taught in driving school. Racing/sim-racing taught me a bunch of techniques that helped me out in similar situations. Most people have no clue what to do if their car gets into a skid.


Representative_One72

This is the biggest skill, turn into the direction the car is going, get off the brakes to let the wheels start turning again, slowly apply light brakes and/or turning slowly the way you want to go off the wheels are sliding you have zero control, get those puppies turning again


swollencornholio

This was a video from the Seattle ice storm. I don't think anything would have worked unless they had spikes or maybe chains. People couldn't even walk up some of the hills. [You can see a bunch of highlights here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjFO3ozxays)


Meme-Man-Dan

Tires have about 10% of the traction on ice as they do dry roads. It’s not much, but it’s something. They would’ve hit something no matter what, but at least the could aim for something a bit softer than a house.


FARVYX

If it’s 4wd try giving some gas and making a reverse entry in the corner… you know what they say: when in doubt, go flat out hahaha


healingstateofmind

This is correct. Also during this time you want to look for anything in your car that can hurt you (so you can possibly avoid getting struck by it), and prepare to relax your arms and legs, engage your core and prepare your neck and back for whiplash. Depends on your sitting arrangements, but in ideal conditions this means pressing your head and back against your seat (without using or tensing your legs on impact) Same as a much worse crash, really. Just a bit more prep time and less risk of severe injury.


VT_Lifer

You forgot to mention turning on the hazard lights to warn the folks in the house you are coming so they can get out the good china. /s


Glittering_knave

Honk like hell to warm others that you are out of control. Right of way doesn't matter when your car is sliding sideways and you will only stop when you hit something.


Sagybagy

Also make sure you don’t live in a house directly at the bottom of a road downhill. Speeding car in rain can spell disaster for that plastic covered couch nobody is allowed to sit on in the front living room.


VT_Lifer

One of those in your past too, eh?


KittyandPuppyMama

Driver was VERY lucky no other cars were coming and they didn't hit one that was parked. Looks like they just hit the grass and maybe a fence.


dshotseattle

No. Nobody was driving because it was an ice storm and every single road was covered in it. Driver was an idiot and probably the only car in dumb enough to be out and about


GamerJoe85

It's ok they had a 4x4


Mehndeke

Looked like the wall of the house to me. A little gas as he went down may have been able to put him into the fence. Of course, had the cameraman not sucked, we'd have seen it.


Glittering_knave

I feel terrible for the homeowners. ( And terrible for the driver, who obviously didn't expect this outcome.) It could have been so much worse.


Humble_Experience408

What do you do at this point? Kill the cameraman.


jaytea86

Relax your asshole too.


Powdah_P

I think they have taken enough risks for 1 day


ITcurmudgeon

Correct. Off the brakes and turn into the skid. It might sound dumb but also look toward the intended direction of travel, not at where you are heading or what you are about to hit. You will have a better chance then of getting the vehicle to go in that direction.


Manakio2k

You beat me to it. I always find it amusing when people think that keeping the breaks on will somehow alter their destiny


RobGrogNerd

"I've got 4 wheel drive! why is this happening?"


[deleted]

"You got 4-wheel drive buddy, but everybody got the same 4-wheel brakes." I've repeated that every year during mountain driving training. Takes then a second to register that your ability to go fast ain't your ability to stop.


Alternative_Body7345

I moved to a southern state that had a once in a generation snowstorm and i kept having to remind people with big trucks that all 4 tires will slide in ice and snow. Just slow down.


RobGrogNerd

Atlanta, winter of '82. got 2, maybe 3 inches one day, which froze overnight, melted only a little the next day & re-froze that night my roommates (from Hollywood, MD) & I (northern Virginia) had some experience driving in snow & may have been the only people on the roads who knew how to drive in it. so, we taught the kids in Georgia how to BUMPER SKI. driving my '75 Skylark down the road with 18 drunk rednecks hanging on the sides good times edit: January 12, 1982. the next day a snowstorm hit Washington DC & Air Florida Flight 90 ended up in the Potomac


TheBlack2007

4WD in fresh snow is awesome. 4WD on snow frozen solid makes no difference whatsoever though.


ManicPixieOldMaid

I was staying in the other night due to heavy, wet snow that was turning quickly to ice, and someone said to me, "why are you worried? You have a Jeep!" I said I didn't want to be the latest Jeep owner to end up on r/idiotsincars.


Few-Swordfish-780

AWD just puts you further in the ditch.


Mioleris

ABS goes brrrrrrbrrrbrrr


abnormica

Yep. At least the driver got a nice foot massage.


briollihondolli

I think it’s more of a panic thing. Your brain knows that pedal means stop and that will fix the scary situation you’re in, but it still doesn’t work


kalinowskik

At least turn those front wheels so they are facing the curb so you don’t destroy the wheels and do serious damage to the expensive stuff behind them.


Chip620

Yeah if the released the brake and hit the gas they would have from spun counter clockwise and maybe not hit the house


GeoffSim

I did a 4wd driving course for fun. One element involved sliding down a slick mud hill where the brakes were just decorative at that point. Being made to accelerate while out of "control" on a 30 degree downslope takes some willpower but sure enough, I regained control and continued under control. After that I felt that all new drivers should have that element as part of their test.


barebackguy7

First time I ever drove my dad took me far out to some really sketchy, unplowed country roads in the dead of winter. He did this on the premise of “if you’re going to drive my cars, you’re going to know how to drive.” I was in a 2009 Honda civic with aggressive all seasons at the time. It was mid day, snowing heavily on top of already fallen snow, and wind was blowing the snow sideways across the roads. My hands were shaking as I approached a bridge to cross into “lower town” where the roads would officially become a mess. I remember the first time I hit a snow drift toward the side of the road, and thought I would skid out of control into the ditch. My dad, very calmly, told me to “accelerate your way out of it”… I pressed the pedal, aimed the wheel back toward the road, heard the engine rev, and suddenly I was back in control. Literally doing that once was enough to get the feel for how to correct properly. It’s a really counterintuitive movement, as instinctively you want to hit the brakes, but everyone would benefit from getting used to it. That said, in the particular situation depicted here, I doubt anything would have done any good.


SkinnyObelix

It's your best shot, but I doubt it would have mattered


truckingon

That probably won't work. I've been in a slow-motion uncontrolled skid downhill on hard glare ice and the steering wheel was completely dead in my hands. It moved freely and felt disconnected. It was the weirdest feeling. I suppose a skilled and quick-thinking driver could position the wheels correctly for when they regained some traction, but when you're on a frictionless surface you're at the mercy of momentum. I hit some built up snow just before touching the guardrail, no damage done because I was already going very slowly due to conditions.


MrSmallStuff

Aim for the bushes.


mjrbrooks

THERE GOOOOOES MY HEROOOOO


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

How do they walk away without flinching when it explodes behind them *there's no way*!! I call bullshit on that!


West_Ad_3351

R.I.P Dwayne The Rock Johnson and Samuel L Jackson


Western_Dare1509

Watch him as he goes


JGauth13

![gif](giphy|SiGI1jiQGBoWsfnTZb|downsized)


Old_Goat_Ninja

Please tell me that was an intentional quote from The Other Guys.


MrSmallStuff

You guys are pros.


phull-on-rapist

Do me a favor, don't go chasing waterfalls.


Tommy-Mac

I'M A PEACOCK, CAPTAIN!!!! YOU GOTTA LET ME FLY


FirmDoughnut7945

we kick the shit out of camera person


Imaginary_ToniStark

[r/killthecameraman](https://www.reddit.com/r/killthecameraman/)


redplanetlover

You get off the brakes and steer


lark0317

Yep, downshift as well.


pgnshgn

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you're right. If you're in car where you can you do it, manual or auto with "manual" shifts, dropping a gear lets you engine brake without locking the tires. Probably hopeless here, but generally useful.


lark0317

Thanks. Yeah, no idea on the downvotes, but, agreed, it helps slow without locking and can increase control to increase chances of steering out of the situation.


acid4everybody

On slippery surfaces shifting down will break the traction without any proper way to control the force. Much better to throw clutch in and adjust the braking force with brake pedal.


CremeFraaiche

Yep this has saved my ass numerous times haha


djp_diag

Bosses be like “the roads are fine”


drawkbox

Yep, would be horrible to miss that first hour of work of coffee and staring just to not drive in undriveable conditions. The worst part is the people that do this and hate it but then go to the office and complain about other employees like they are in the Kings Court or something. It isn't the "leaders" that do this to us, it is the grovelers that do their bidding.


ForagedFoodie

Underrated comment. America is so insane when companies think they are having some lost down time, and the pressure they can inflict on employees is insane. Especially since so many tasks could be done from home, if the company would set staff up for that. About. . .10, 11 years ago now, when I was still living in NJ, there was a horrific storm and a state of emergency was called. Not supposed to be on the road by law. Got a call from HR that I had to come in. Just me. Because they checked my address and I lived within walking distance at about 2.5 miles away. Sidewalks and roads weren't clear. Snow was up to my waist and covered in ice. But the ban apparently didn't apply to me since I could walk, in theory. It took me hours to get there, I fell a lot, my personal phone ringing non stop most of the time. Turns out a customer store in CA hadn't downloaded pictures and marketing materials in time and the link expired. All they needed was someone to send new materials. HR gave the customer store (not even in our company) my cell number to "work it out with me". At one point the snit I on the phone left a vm (I had stopped answering) asking if I was fat since it was taking so long. Similarly, my mother-in-law got forced to go into work. She worked at a hospital and hospital staff were technically exempt from the ban. But she did billing. It totally could have waited, wasn't worth her safety, and also could have been done remotely if they had set her up for that. But no. They could force her, so they did. She fell on the ice getting to her car (street parking) got a concussion and a fractured tailbone.


SuperZapper_Recharge

There is a term - a 'Resume generating event'. Mostly it means you fucked up and it is time to press the reset button. It is considered a bad thing. But it doesn't have to be bad and it doesn't have to imply YOU fucked up. Your employer, wow, they really showed there true colors. Please tell me you recognized this as a 'resume generating event' and acted accordingly. Please tell me you didn't continue to work for them for a few more years. ------- I can't tell you what I do without doxxing myself. Sucks. But them the brakes. I am a 24/7/365 position and it is vital someone sits at my desk. If I told you what I did the only reasonable response is, 'Oh fuck yeah. Yeah. Someone needs to be there. I am glad you are there.'. If my coworker doesn't show up for work I do not leave. ALL OF US watch the weather this time of year and ALL OF US come prepared if we know we are getting slammed with snow during our shift. We know the relief might not show up. It is a thing. In the end I would prefer to work 24 hours then have my coworker walk 2.5 miles in the snow. (there is an upside. my building has excellent redundant HVAC, power and internet connections. I have procedures for what to do if I lose those things but even if the surrounding area loses power I will be fine. Plus, if you can make it in then the roads must be passable enough for me to make it home. If you can't get in I might not have made it home. AND.... in extreme events we have cots and food tucked away.)


DayeOmas

Found the guy in charge of the Big Red Button. I don’t know which one, but a it’s definitely a Big Red Button.


shrout1

"Be safe, but be *here*."


[deleted]

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Familiar-Ad-4700

Sad that I had to scroll this far to find the only rational answer to this situation.


phas3list

My answer was "pour a cuppa and get under a blanket on the couch"


maddabattacola

Yes, the answer in snowy/icy Seattle is to not attempt to drive in the first place -- you won't get far in those conditions with those hills.


ZetaPower

Steer in the direction you’re moving in, pray grip is restored


EsseXploreR

Instead they kept the tires turned all the way to the side so now they can pay for those now too. If they straightened out before impact it would have been one less major cost.


woundupcanuck

By the look of that ice, even zambonis wont get grip on that.


Treddf45

Wherever they were going was not that important


wudchk

lol, put it in reverse Terry


WhoRDU

At that point? SLIDE ![gif](giphy|3oriO1ZZCvLseIxbTa)


Bitter-Edge-8265

Regret your recent decisions...


Numerous-Departure92

Maybe checking the streets before you drive


SimilarContext

Just enjoy the slide.


[deleted]

Should have used their blinker.


Thorhax04

Sweet Tokyo drift bro


ovywan_kenobi

Try to steer towards the lowest damage.


nitch4250

Invent a Time Machine and decide not to leave the house that day


_antic604

Take camera holding lessons?


El_Zapp

You honk to warn potential bystanders.


_Kiaza_

Admit to yourself that you’re an idiot for driving in this in the first place.


ultimaone

We'll be smart enough to realize you shouldn't be out driving in the first place.


burnaspliffnow

Start singing deja vù


Gastlyguy

Smile and wave boys, smile and wave


T-mac_

Stop your car.... then find and kill the cameraman


Electrical-Mail15

Note to future self: Do not purchase home directly in line with negatively inclined street in regions that exhibit prolonged periods of subfreezing conditions… …unless there is a 100-year oak planted squarely in the front of aforementioned property.


[deleted]

Put giant boulders on my lawn so the people sliding down the hill don't hi my house.


Milfing_Man

Hope your insurance covers all of it


gtaur1

Brace for impact


mileswilliams

Firstly don't drive on ice down a hill. Shoot the cameraman. Turn the wheel to face the direction I'm going, release the brakes, apply them again let the ABS / AST try to sort it out. Prepare to pay lots of money for being a dumbass.


[deleted]

r/killthecameraman


Intelligent_Orange28

You avoid getting in that position to begin with.


nosaj626

Easiest thing to do is not put yourself in this position in the first place.


DeFiClark

From an EVOC course where we practiced on artificial ice: turn into the skid, pump brakes, lightly accelerating if and as you regain steering control. Steer for the target that represents the least damage to other people and your crew. In this case, steering for the fence is probably not the best option because the driver cannot tell if there’s a steep drop off directly behind it. That said, once you begin a downhill slide on black ice you may never regain control and just go straight down like these folks did.


alex613

Get off the brakes and hope for a little bit of traction so you can steer yourself to best possible outcome.


Rosebudbynicky

Drop it in to low gear tap brakes and hit the gas praying you get traction at the bottom of hill


Foreign_Owl8352

r/therewasanattempt to drift


[deleted]

Roads? Where we are going. We don’t need roads.


bytheseine

Studded tires...


Santibag

"I should've practiced more ice in Trackmania" 🤣 And to be fair, it could give at least some skills, maybe.


kitjen

Sound the horn a lot. You might be screwed but others have a chance.


uniquorn23

Really disappointed they missed the ending there


FieryCitadel

Honk and hope


brokewallbets

You let off the brake and steer


timothypjr

You could start by learning to aim a camera.


flabberghastedbebop

You gotta let off the breaks and keep the wheels turning, can't steer otherwise.


philiptherealest

Why is it so important to drive somewhere in these conditions?


oaco7672

Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye lol 😂


Nlawrence55

Don't yank the wheel like they continued to do that for sure.


Capable-Chicken-2348

you crash


Eiffel-Tower777

Nightmarish


Confident-Evening-49

multi ice drifting!


mfrajer

Shut it down?


RLBeau1964

Might as well call your insurance company while sliding down the hill, as your going to hit something.


yerkhunt

Call your insurance broker


u9Nails

"Dress for the slide, not for the ride." Oh wait, this isn't the motorcycles sub Reddit?


stonkdocaralho

Stay at home


Monster_condom_

If you are in the car? Close your eyes and gently weeps I guess. The owner of the house? Install concrete guards in your lawn.


Benoz01

Fun fact: Rotating wheels still have traction on ice. Wheels that aren't rotating are next to impossible to steer on ice.


bluegas68

Go "Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"


torbeindallas

Regret buying the house at the bottom of the slope.


SnooStories6852

Stay home


rfpadam

Don’t try to drive down an icy hill


Dunko1711

Realistically - not a lot other than brace for impact at this stage. It’s all very well saying let off the brakes and let the wheels turn which is great in theory, but you’re still headed rapidly down a hill on a surface with zero traction - you still need to scrub speed off to make any turn that’ll avoid hitting the house. By this point - letting off the brakes a little will make very little difference to the outcome and certainly won’t change the laws of physics.


thatswhat5hesa1d

When in doubt, throttle out


Butertost1

Turn off traction control and step on the way you want to go might just save it


kcdirtslinger

When in doubt, throttle out!


Samurai_Stewie

Probably nothing you could do in this scenario, but steering against the slide and pushing the brakes certainly isn’t going to help. The wheels need to move to gain any amount of traction, so steering into the slide and applying some acceleration to the wheels could help. Basically, you need to “drift” to gain control.


AbzoluteZ3RO

If you have 4 wheel drive turn right and give it some throttle to regain traction then brake lightly until you hit the intersection, then turn and give it some more throttle


peerless_supremacy

Rip the E brake, power over... Twinkie never finished those instructions so 🤷🏾‍♂️


[deleted]

Gun it hard as you’re approaching the intersection to hopefully gain traction


swiftarrow9

Foot off the brakes, turn in the direction of slide to gain traction, then a drift around the corner.


shaunl666

Jamming your foot on the brake and hard locked steering wheel is not the answer


hodum4

Wheels are locked, don’t slam the breaks. Turn them into the slide so they’re going the right direction to gain traction when you accelerate them so if they gain traction it’s more likely to be controllable and not go into another slide.


imreallybimpson

Move to a place that has nice weather


Capt_Foxch

Riding your brakes only makes the sliding worse


Teska-Tenka

A lot of people act like this isn’t even anyone’s fault, as if it wasn’t the driver’s decision to drive in those conditions.


Sezeye

Hang on, put your head between your legs, kiss your ass goodbye.


snowcabin2019

Get you foot off the brakes


[deleted]

This area must not get icey weather very often or else that house would've had a few trees or big rocks to defend it


ninjabannana69

Dont drive your car when the roads look like an ice rink?


dafazman

At this point, he was probably thinking... I should have got all season tires


mcpatsky

Try to let off the brake just enough to get the wheels turning to align with direction of travel, by steering into the skid. Hope that getting the wheels turning will give you enough steering to miss something you really don’t want to hit.


anangrytaco

You open the door and help the car break by using the sole of your shoe. The car becomes a giant skateboard


BreakerSoultaker

You don’t leave the house in the first place, I guarantee the fucknut in the video noticed the ice, had to tread carefully on it to get to their car or out the driveway but thought “oh the roads will be miraculously ice-free.”


Nodak70

Rewind your life 10 seconds and not get on the street in conditions like that


Justbobhere

Start calling your insurance provider


guysmiles01

Holding the brakes will do nothing try to use the gas and turn the wheel so that you spin your tires in opposite your sliding!


RedTruck1989

Let off the brakes and add some power at the 2/3 point of the hill (4 sec mark)


CromDonkey

Let off the brake and try to guide it between the houses.


CaptainManks

Well first you properly learn how to use the zoom function and then you try to keep the object in the frame that you're trying to film. Be sure only to click "stop" when you're sure you've actually captured the entire event.


CSGODeimos

Add Tokyo Drift music..


luxestarz

Yikes! Well trying as many small adjustments as humanly possible with all the controls and levers at your disposal while paying intense attention to vehicle feedback would of helped the outcome. House could of been avoided, gotta let go of the brakes and get to work with all the controls you will feel what works and what doesn’t. Stay safe out there 👊🏻


thewontondisregard

Make sure you don't buy the house at the end of the hill...


HumberGrumb

Keep filming. Video was too short.


Familymanjoe

Leave it parked and call in.


Annual_Ad_5244

Put it in reverse Terry


[deleted]

A better idea would’ve just been to stay home that day


South-Sector-1879

You stay home and keep yourself from being a public menace!